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Arizona OKs biggest US school voucher plan, faces challenge | AP News

  
Via:  Ender  •  2 years ago  •  44 comments

By:   BOB CHRISTIE (AP NEWS)

Arizona OKs biggest US school voucher plan, faces challenge | AP News
PHOENIX (AP) — Republican Gov. Doug Ducey on Thursday signed a massive expansion of the state's private school voucher system, even as he faced a promised effort by public school advocates to block the bill and ask voters to erase it during November's election.

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PHOENIX (AP) — Republican Gov. Doug Ducey on Thursday signed a massive expansion of the state's private school voucher system, even as he faced a promised effort by public school advocates to block the bill and ask voters to erase it during November's election.

The expansion Ducey signed will let every parent in Arizona take public money now sent to the K-12 public school system and use it to pay for their children's private school tuition or other education costs.

Arizona already has the most expansive education options in the nation and will have the most comprehensive voucher system if the bill takes effect.

An estimated 60,000 private students and about 38,000 being homeschooled would immediately be eligible to take up to $7,000 per year, although a small number currently get vouchers. All 1.1 million students who attend traditional district and charter schools would also qualify to leave their public schools and get money to go to private schools. About a third already qualify, but only about 12,000 students statewide now use the system.

Ducey has championed "school choice" during his eight years in office. He signed a universal voucher expansion in 2017 with enrollment caps that was referred to the ballot by a grassroots group called Save Our Schools Arizona.

Voters soundly rejected the expansion by a 2-to-1 vote in the 2018 election, but advocates of what are formally called "Empowerment Scholarship Accounts" pushed ahead with new expansions anyway. The universal voucher bill passed with only support from majority Republican lawmakers in the legislative session that ended early on June 25.

Save Our Schools Arizona Executive Director Beth Lewis said her group will immediately file to refer the law to the ballot under a provision of the Arizona Constitution that allows opponents of new laws to collect signatures of 5% of eligible voters and block it until the next general election.

In this case, they will need to collect nearly 119,000 valid signatures, and proponents usually add a 25% cushion. They need to have those collected and turned in to the Secretary of State by late September to prevent the law from taking effect and put it on the November ballot.

"I have every confidence that we're going to be able to refer HB2853," Lewis said in an interview. "Our network of volunteers across the state are pumped and ready."

Lewis and other public school advocates say vouchers take money from an already underfunded public school system, while proponents herald the program as letting parents choose the best education for their children.

Lewis said the price tag of the new voucher law could take away more than the new school funding lawmakers added this year, which neared $1 billion in ongoing and one-time cash.

"In a nutshell, this bill will siphon upwards of $1 billion from public schools every single year to unaccountable private academies, micro schools and homeschools," Lewis said. "And we simply can't let that happen."

Many of the students in the voucher program are disabled. By adding current private and home-schooled students, she said anywhere from $400 million to $600 million would be "going out the window like overnight, with automatic eligibility on September 26."

The Legislature's budget analysts put the expansion costs much lower, at $125 million in two years, but acknowledge the figures are highly speculative and based on new costs, not the losses from public schools. Many private school students get money from a tax credit program, but those payments average much less than vouchers, so many are likely to switch.

Ducey has been touting the expansion on social media in the past two weeks, and touted mentions in conservative news outlets in a news release announcing the bill signing.

Ducey in a statement called the signing a "monumental moment for all of Arizona's students. Our kids will no longer be locked in under-performing schools."

Most of those underperforming schools, however, are in low-income areas with little access to private schools and whose parents rely on the local public schools, which have been underfunded for years.

He made no mention of the overwhelming rejection of the 2017 expansion or of the expected new challenge. Instead, he touted Arizona's lead in private school options.

"With this legislation, Arizona cements itself as the top state for school choice and as the first state in the nation to offer all families the option to choose the school setting that works best for them," he said.

The voucher law contains no accountability provisions like testing that a few Republicans had sought. There's also limited oversight of the funds distributed.

The program only applied to students with disabilities when it began in 2011 but has been greatly expanded over the years to cover many others, including students living on American Indian reservations, attending low-performing public schools and other groups.

The nearly 12,000 current students were awarded $196 million in the just-ended school year, according to data from the Arizona Department of Education. About $20 million of that has not yet been disbursed.

Parents get 90% of the state funds that normally go to their local public school to use for private school tuition and other education costs. Disabled students can receive up to $40,000 for specialized therapy.


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Ender
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1  seeder  Ender    2 years ago

The dumbing down of the population is underway...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @1    2 years ago

It's been underway for the last 40 years

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1    2 years ago

The public schools there are going to become way underfunded and unable to do their job.

Imo, giving homeschool people a 7k check every year is asinine.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @1.1.1    2 years ago

The majority of these charter schools are scams.  They now give to private and religious schools I hear.  

Homeschooling is also a joke, depending on if it's those religious whackjobs trying to keep their kids away from the truth.  

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.3  seeder  Ender  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    2 years ago

They are actually going to give people funds directly from public school funds with basically zero oversight..

It is a scam being played upon the residents.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @1.1.3    2 years ago

Gee, I'm shocked!  Shocked I tell you!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    2 years ago

I don't think all homeschoolers are the religious whack jobs. I once thought about homeschooling my kids but I have a limited ability to impart knowledge. I don't have an education back ground. So I sent them to the best public school I could. Little did I know that my kids would be bullied because they were Catholics and not Baptists or Church of Christers. I went to the school one day and as I was walking into the building there was a bible on display. In. A. Public. School.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.5    2 years ago

You're correct TG.  I'm thinking of folks like the Duggars and those religious/culty whackjob like folks who want to keep them away from the real world and reality.  Homeschooling can be a great option for those who can't afford the expensive private schools, folks who don't have the educational backgrounds, etc., etc., etc.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.7  seeder  Ender  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    2 years ago

I am not a fan of home schooling.

What is ironic is during the pandemic, republicans kept complaining that kids need social interaction.

Now they are championing home schooling where there would be no social interaction.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.1.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @1.1.7    2 years ago

They speak out of both sides of their mouths and the worst part is they know they do

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.9  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.8    2 years ago

gee, I thought trumpsters were against indoctrination in schools.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.1.9    2 years ago

Silly boy!...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.11  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  devangelical @1.1.9    2 years ago
I thought trumpsters were against indoctrination in schools

They're vehemently opposed to any teaching that runs counter to their conservative Christian views. Saying gay people are normal and just like anyone else and should be respected is counter to Christians views. They used to teach being gay was a perverted choice made by godless heathens and thus children were essentially given free reign to bully anyone they suspected of being gay. When that exposed them as vile bigots they adopted a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy of just not even acknowledging that gays exist. Now, instead of coming right out and admitting they are still vile bigots they demand its parents rights to indoctrinate their children and public schools should be prevented from teaching that people they hate are worthy of kindness and respect.

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.1.12  goose is back  replied to  Ender @1.1.1    2 years ago

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Ender
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1.1.13  seeder  Ender  replied to  goose is back @1.1.12    2 years ago

So you are against social studies?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.14  devangelical  replied to  Ender @1.1.13    2 years ago

... not if it's biblical in nature.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.11    2 years ago

I've always considered,them to be small c christians

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @1    2 years ago

Republican Gov. Doug Ducey

Doug Douchey

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to    2 years ago

Stop hitting on me

I'm not interested

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.4  Tessylo  replied to    2 years ago

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Greg Jones
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1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Ender @1    2 years ago

So you don't believe in choice....school that is? Today's public schools are failing in a big way, and the results are dismal

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.3.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  Greg Jones @1.3    2 years ago

Google something and post all the results?

If you think schools are so abysmal, your solution is to abandon them?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.3.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @1.3.1    2 years ago

That Greg! He's a thinker he is!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.3.3  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @1.3    2 years ago

great, make all the taxpayers share the burden of turning the kids of morons into thumpers.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.3.4  Ronin2  replied to  Ender @1.3.1    2 years ago

Because throwing a more and more money at them, with zero accountability for the abysmal results, is working great! /S

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.3.5  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @1.3.3    2 years ago

As opposed to all the taxpayers sharing the burden for public schools that seem to have forgotten how to teach the basics; and are more concerned with gender definitions.

We spend more on education than any other country for these shitty results. Great return on investment!

But keep throwing more money at public schools; because that has worked so well in the past. 

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”

Democrats, teachers unions, and our public school system is the very definition of insanity.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.3.6  seeder  Ender  replied to  Ronin2 @1.3.4    2 years ago

So yes, you would rather throw out the baby with the bathwater.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.3.7  seeder  Ender  replied to  Ronin2 @1.3.5    2 years ago

So what are republicans doing to make schools better other than saying to abandon them?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.3.8  Greg Jones  replied to  Ronin2 @1.3.5    2 years ago

Minorities benefit the most from vouchers and school choice, so I can understand why liberals in general and teachers unions in particular hate the idea so much

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.3.9  seeder  Ender  replied to  Greg Jones @1.3.8    2 years ago

What do you not understand about taking away from public schools and giving the money to private institutions that have no oversight?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
1.3.10  afrayedknot  replied to  Greg Jones @1.3.8    2 years ago

“Minorities benefit the most from vouchers and school choice,”

A ridiculous statement…and just what and when was the watershed moment the GOP cared about minorities? 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
1.3.11  afrayedknot  replied to  Ronin2 @1.3.5    2 years ago

‘…our public school system is the very definition of insanity.”

And yet here you are, along with all your compatriots, able to express your opinions in a relatively comprehensible manner.

Thank your parents but don’t forget to thank your public  ‘school system’ as well. Politics aside if possible. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3.12  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @1.3.5    2 years ago

Your constant deflection and denial is fucking tiresome

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3.13  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @1.3.8    2 years ago

Citation Greg?

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