Kyle Rittenhouse meets with House GOP members | The Hill

  
Via:  Ender  •  2 weeks ago  •  148 comments

By:   Emily Brooks

Kyle Rittenhouse meets with House GOP members | The Hill
Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager acquitted of homicide related to the killing of two people in Kenosha, Wis., during a 2020 protest there, met with a group of House Republicans in the Second Amendment Caucus on Thursday evening. Rittenhouse joined the lawmakers at a gathering at the Conservative Partnership Institute office near the Capitol, a common…

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Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager acquitted of homicide related to the killing of two people in Kenosha, Wis., during a 2020 protest there, met with a group of House Republicans in the Second Amendment Caucus on Thursday evening.

Rittenhouse joined the lawmakers at a gathering at the Conservative Partnership Institute office near the Capitol, a common gathering hub for conservative Republicans. Rittenhouse shared his story and held a question-and-answer session with members of the group.

Reps. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) and Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) are the co-chairs of the Second Amendment Caucus. Those in attendance at the Thursday event also included Republican Reps. Andrew Clyde (Ga.) and Byron Donalds (Fla.), according to a source.

"It was an honor to have Kyle join the Second Amendment Caucus. He is a powerful example of why we must never give an inch on our Second Amendment rights, and his perseverance and love for our country was an inspiration to the caucus," Boebert told The Hill in a statement.

The meeting with Rittenhouse comes nearly one year to the day after a jury unanimously found him not guilty of all the charges that he faced, including intentional homicide and endangering safety. Rittenhouse's lawyers argued that he acted in self-defense.

Rittenhouse had shown up at a night of unrest in Kenosha following the police shooting of Jacob Blake, armed with an AR-15-style rifle and saying that he intended to help out as a medic. The night turned violent, and Rittenhouse, after being chased, shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum and then Anthony Huber, who struck Rittenhouse with a skateboard, as well as injuring Gaige Grosskreutz, who was holding a pistol.

"I'm 19 and just got to speak with leaders of the greatest country on earth! This was an amazing evening where I got to share my story and discuss the importance of the Second Amendment. Even while the radical left continues to sue me and disparage my name, I know these great leaders have my back," Rittenhouse said in a statement.

Kyle Rittenhouse shakes hands with Rep-elect Anna Paulina Luna (R-Fla.). (Courtesy of Second Amendment Caucus)

He was referring to a civil suit brought against him earlier this year by the parents of Huber.

Since the trial, Rittenhouse has become a Second Amendment advocate. The month after his trial, elaborate pyrotechnics accompanied his entrance at a Turning Point USA conference.

Right-wing lawmakers embraced Rittenhouse around the time of his trial. Republican Reps. Madison Cawthorn (N.C.), Matt Gaetz (Fla.) and Paul Gosar (Ariz.) all floated making him a congressional intern.


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Ender
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1  seeder  Ender    2 weeks ago

So go to a place he really had no business being, have someone hold and give him a gun, shoot people, then run for congress on the GOP ticket.

Something is really wrong with some aspects of our society.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1    2 weeks ago
Something is really wrong with some aspects of our society.

Yeah, protecting yourself is really, really wrong. /S

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1    2 weeks ago

So I guess you would have let your seventeen year old be there, with a gun?

Is this the kind of person you want in a future caucus?

I am going to guess yes.

Loved by the right wing when his only claim to fame is killing someone.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1    2 weeks ago

hopefully he used protection with blowbert...

 
 
 
George
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1.1.3  George  replied to  Ender @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

Not just someone, he killed scumbags who assaulted and tried to kill him. That’s why it’s called self defense. And he had as much right to be their as the pieces of shit who were burning other peoples property down.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.4  seeder  Ender  replied to  George @1.1.3    2 weeks ago

So yes, you all want him in the republican ranks.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.1.1    2 weeks ago
Is this the kind of person you want in a future caucus?

Somebody that knows how to use a firearm for protection?  I do.  

Loved by the right wing when his only claim to fame is killing someone

I guess you need to look up the definition of "Self Defense".  Here, I'll get you started: 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.6  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

Call it what you will. I posted this as he is some kind of right wing darling for the more extreme caucus of the party.

I have my opinion too. He is a scumbag little fat pig that is convinced by the people around him that he is some kind of hero.

He has never once showed any remorse for what he did, just like you all are doing.

I know how to use a firearm and just so happened to never kill anyone. So is that part of the initiation process? I must kill someone in order to get right wing praise?

 
 
 
George
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1.1.7  George  replied to  Ender @1.1.4    2 weeks ago

Where did I say that? What I said is he was found not guilty and is as free to be a member of any political party, the democrats elected a man who molests his daughter in the shower. Why not let an innocent man join the GOP?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.1.6    2 weeks ago
Call it what you will

I call it what it factually is.  Self Defense.  Now, because you disagree with actual facts, you (and the rest of the left) have demonized this kid all because he protected himself during a riot you all supported.  

I know how to use a firearm and just so happened to never kill anyone. 

Well go to the bakery and get your self a cookie.  Have you been in a situation where you had to protect yourself with that firearm?  My guess is no.  

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.9  seeder  Ender  replied to  George @1.1.7    2 weeks ago

You are not going to make this about conspiracy theories so stay on track. You all want him and you all have him, willingly.

Says a lot more about the right wing than me....

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.10  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.8    2 weeks ago

Actual facts?  No, you have your opinion.

He was a little shit that had to put himself in the situation.

The case has been settled and he is being embraced by the gop.

For what exactly? Because he killed some damn libs?

Have you shot your gun at anyone? Killed anyone? Had to shoot it in self defence?

 
 
 
George
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1.1.11  George  replied to  Ender @1.1.9    2 weeks ago

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Ender
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1.1.12  seeder  Ender  replied to  George @1.1.11    2 weeks ago

I am not going to let you go off the rails on bullshit. It will be flagged from now on.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.1.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @1.1.9    2 weeks ago

Don't let any of these guys get away with their bullshit, Ender. My trigger finger is getting itchy

 
 
 
George
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1.1.14  George  replied to  Ender @1.1.12    2 weeks ago

They say ignorance is bliss, One person had their day in court and was found to have taken out the trash, nothing more. the other is literally trash.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.15  seeder  Ender  replied to  George @1.1.14    2 weeks ago

They say wearing blinders one can walk off a cliff....

So you think it is ok for people to take out the trash so to speak.

You are judge jury and executioner.

 
 
 
George
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1.1.16  George  replied to  Ender @1.1.15    2 weeks ago

Sigh....There was a judge and a jury, he was found not guilty. It was either because the Jury felt there were no humans killed, or it was self defense and 2 scumbags proved Darwin correct....They weren't the fittest. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.17  seeder  Ender  replied to  George @1.1.16    2 weeks ago

No humans killed. So you could care less about people being killed. I suppose you call yourself a Christian too.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.18  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @1.1.17    2 weeks ago

I sure hope he doesn't

 
 
 
George
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1.1.19  George  replied to  Ender @1.1.15    2 weeks ago
They say wearing blinders one can walk off a cliff....

Who ever said that obviously has no clue what blinders are.....

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.20  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.1.10    2 weeks ago
Actual facts?  No, you have your opinion.

The link I provided you is not opinion.  It's fact.  LEGAL fact.  Now because that goes against what you THINK is not my problem.  

The case has been settled and he is being embraced by the gop. For what exactly? Because he killed some damn libs?

So that is your problem.  He killed rioters, you apparently support, who were attacking him and was acquitted.  AND he supports the 2nd Amendment.  

Have you shot your gun at anyone? Killed anyone? Had to shoot it in self defence?

Yes.  1 tour in Iraq and 3 tours of Afghanistan.  Yes, I've shot at people, I've killed people.  And at times it was in self defense.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.21  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.20    2 weeks ago

I know the facts of the case. I can still have a valid opinion whether or not you want to hear it.

I see you haven't answered some of my questions.

Would you have let your 17 yr old son go there? With some people that looked like a biker gang and they gave him a gun.

Would you allow that to begin with? He knew there were protests going on and decided, with help, to arm himself and put himself in the situation.

All I am hearing is excuses. Stop acting like every case is decided the way you want it.

So I take it you have never felt remorse? I don't call being in an active war zone the same as self defence at home.
What you are only doing is trying to equate the protests to a war zone.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.1.22  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Ender @1.1.6    2 weeks ago
I have my opinion too.

and your welcome to it , problem is when facts get introduced .

fact , he didnt shoot until he was attacked or threatened in all 3 instances , the one he shot that lived even admitted in court that he pointed a handgun at him . all indications of lawful self defense use . and there is no age limit of when one can or can not use deadly force in self defense .

 fact. his right to be there was irrelevant , even though he has immediate family that live there ,believe its his father, grandparents and other extended  family.

 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.23  Tessylo  replied to  George @1.1.3    2 weeks ago

No, the scumbag is Rittenhouse.  They were protesting peacefully when Rittenhouse murdered them.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.24  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @1.1.6    2 weeks ago
"I have my opinion too. He is a scumbag little fat pig that is convinced by the people around him that he is some kind of hero."

That is my opinion also.  All people with good sense and decency have this opinion.  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.1.25  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @1.1.10    2 weeks ago
Actual facts?  No, you have your opinion.

Well... his aquittal is actually a fact. 

He was a little shit that had to put himself in the situation.

Granted.  100%.  He should not have been there.

But neither should the rioters.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.26  Tessylo  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.1.22    2 weeks ago

He wasn't attacked or threatened - rittenhouse - they were trying to stop this fine young republican from killing someone else

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.27  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.1.21    2 weeks ago
I know the facts of the case.

So you are willfully ignorant of the case.

I see you haven't answered some of my questions.

Because they are irrelevant.  

Stop acting like every case is decided the way you want it.

As you said.  This case is settled.  I agree with the result.  It was the correct verdict.  

What you are only doing is trying to equate the protests to a war zone.

I never equated a riot (yes, it was a riot) to a war zone.  You ask if I ever shot at or killed anybody.  And I answered.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.28  Tessylo  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.1.22    2 weeks ago

He does not have immediately family that live there.

Everything you're saying is false.  

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.29  seeder  Ender  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.1.22    2 weeks ago

I saw the videos and can still form my opinion. You all are ignoring the simple fact that he himself put himself into the situation.

Because of the handgun was the only reason he got off Imo.

If I was attacked and threatened would I stay around? No. Would you? Yet he did, he almost wanted want happened.

The fact of the matter actually is, the article is about the gop embracing him and wanting him in the ranks yet no one wants to talk about that.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.30  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @1.1.29    2 weeks ago

And he was partying at a bar afterwards with the same biker killer scum I believe - so no, he showed no remorse whatsoever

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.1.31  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.25    2 weeks ago
Granted.  100%.  He should not have been there. But neither should the rioters.

good points.

Everybody should have stayed home and got drunk

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.32  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.25    2 weeks ago

I agree about the rioters but the protestors had an actual grievance that seems to be ignored.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.33  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.27    2 weeks ago

Just because I do not agree with what you say does not make me ignorant of anything.

If that is the way you want to play yes, I can insult too.

Shall we play a game?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
1.1.34  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.1.29    2 weeks ago
You all are ignoring the simple fact that he himself put himself into the situation.

So did Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber and Gaige Grosskreutz.   Why are you ignoring that?

 
 
 
George
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1.1.35  George  replied to  Ender @1.1.32    2 weeks ago
rioters

Rioters are criminals and should be shot, Legitimate protestors who follow the law are fine. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.36  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @1.1.21    2 weeks ago

Anyone who was rioting, looting, or setting fires were not legitimate protesters - I don't know why I have to keep pointing that out - not to you ender - but to others.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
1.1.37  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.1.33    2 weeks ago
Just because I do not agree with what you say does not make me ignorant of anything.

But willfully ignoring the facts shows willful ignorance.  And it's all to fit a narrative.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.38  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.34    2 weeks ago

I am not. I look at them as what they are, adults.

No one is innocent in any of it, including the boy.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.39  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.37    2 weeks ago

What facts have I been ignorant of?

If you are just going to insult get lost.

 
 
 
George
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1.1.40  George  replied to  Ender @1.1.29    2 weeks ago
If I was attacked and threatened would I stay around? No.

Obviously you didn't see the video, he did run away, they chased him down and assaulted him again, the only thing he did wrong is not center mass the 3rd attacker.  

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.41  seeder  Ender  replied to  George @1.1.40    2 weeks ago

I obviously didn't see the video? Uh huh. I saw all of them. Just because I do not agree with your stance that he was some poor innocent victim doesn't mean I am blind.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
1.1.42  Jack_TX  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.31    2 weeks ago
Everybody should have stayed home and got drunk

The net accomplishments for racial equality would have been exactly the same, people would have had a better time, three people would be alive today who are not, and dozens of innocent small business owners would not have seen their life's work go up in smoke.

So yeah.  Pretty much.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.43  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.1.22    2 weeks ago
 fact. his right to be there was irrelevant , even though he has immediate family that live there ,believe its his father, grandparents and other extended  family.

Yes, he grew up and lived 20 miles away. His grandmother, an an aunt, uncle, and cousins live in Kenosha.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.44  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.42    2 weeks ago

I completly agree and burning these businesses was environmentally irresponsible.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.45  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.42    2 weeks ago

I don't know. I have seen some drunken trailer park brawls. More people might have been killed...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.46  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ender @1.1.45    2 weeks ago

What were you doing there?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.1.47  afrayedknot  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.43    2 weeks ago

“Yes, he grew up and lived 20 miles away.”

Proximity somehow equates to opportunity and thus absolution? 

We all taught our kids to avoid dangerous situations, and if confronted in a dangerous situation to walk, run, sprint away.

That this misinformed young man escalated the situation by marching along with a weapon no less, and even worse…that he has become a cult hero and feted by those using him for their partisan gain is beyond despicable. 

 
 
 
George
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1.1.48  George  replied to  Ender @1.1.41    2 weeks ago

A simple question, did he run away? and did they chase him down and attack him?

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.49  seeder  Ender  replied to  George @1.1.48    2 weeks ago

Which time....

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.50  seeder  Ender  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1.47    2 weeks ago
that he has become a cult hero and feted by those using him for their partisan gain

Almost sounds like 'grooming'...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
1.1.51  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1.47    2 weeks ago
Proximity somehow equates to opportunity?

I don't understand your question.

We all taught our kids to avoid dangerous situations, and if confronted in a dangerous situation to walk, run, sprint away.

Perhaps his parents failed him with that.

that he has become a cult hero and feted by those using him for their partisan gain is beyond despicable. 

That's more on the media and there supporters that both demonized him and viewed him as a hero.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.1.52  afrayedknot  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.51    2 weeks ago

“Perhaps his parents failed him with that.”

Undoubtedly. And yet getting rich in their transgression. 

 
 
 
George
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1.1.53  George  replied to  Ender @1.1.49    2 weeks ago

The times he shot 3 people, 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.1.54  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Ender @1.1.29    2 weeks ago

we have a difference of opinion then .

 i saw the videos as well, as well as have stills i posted here while the trial was all going on . what you saw   256 and your opinion is yours , i tend to agree with what the jury decided .

that picture sure looks like an assault to me one with the intention to cause severe injury or death , still seconds before a shot to the chest ended the threat. thats called self defense .256

the hand gun was the only reason the jury aqquitted ?  "Lefty" testified he approached Ritterhouse with his hands up , and ritterhouse lowered his weapon because there was no threat , lefty testified he then drew his handgun and pointed it in ritterhouses direction at which time ritterhouse recognized a threat and fired , again self defense  you do see what is in "leftys" right hand right ?

Now there is no good video of the first shooting but there was enough eye witness testimony to piece things together . and there is enough credible testimony of the threats made by the first person shot .

 stick around ? he didnt stick around , immediately after the first shooting , he ran TOWARDS  the cops to report what happened   , they disregarded him at first more intent on what they believed was a still active shooter situation .

Now im not a 17 -18 yo kid , im longer in the tooth and been around the block a few times , but if faced with the same things testified to and what i have shown , i would have shot the mother fuckers myself .

Now , do i care if he runs for congress or not? is he running to represent my state is my question then, if not none of my business , if so he likely wouldnt get my vote ., frankly i dont give a rip who either of the parties decide to endorse or welcome since i dont belong to either of them .

 
 
 
George
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1.1.55  George  replied to  Ender @1.1.50    2 weeks ago

Biden’s daughter is off topic.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.1.56  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @1.1.32    2 weeks ago
I agree about the rioters but the protestors had an actual grievance that seems to be ignored.

It was always going to be ignored.  Because modern protests are stupid, and most people engaging in them are doing so because they're too lazy to figure out how to do something that actually matters. 

Are there legitimate grievances?   Oh hell yeah.  But absolutely none of those are solved by burning down the local car dealership. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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1.1.57  Raven Wing  replied to  Ender @1.1.33    2 weeks ago
Shall we play a game?

Please don't lower yourself to that level, Ender. You have a right to your own opinions, thoughts, and views just like everyone else here on NT. Don't cave to the 'game playing' like they do. Stand your ground and let them make a fool of themselves. 

Time in this world is short, don't let anyone steal your time with their stupid games.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.58  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Raven Wing @1.1.57    2 weeks ago
Stand your ground

Where have we heard that before?

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
1.1.59  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Ender @1.1.32    2 weeks ago

If i remember right , this particular protest was because a black man was shot under the premise of violating a protection order and being armed with a knife , which was denied by  and in the media  right up until it was admitted he was armed as stated  .....which came out after the events involving ritterhouse , and rather quietly.

BUUUT , it was the summer of love 2020 right after george floyd and protests and riotous behaviour was not looked down on by some people .

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.60  Sean Treacy  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.1.59    2 weeks ago
which was denied by  and in the media  right up until it was admitted he was armed as stated  .

the "unarmed man" myth was kept alive even after his admission. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
1.1.61  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.60    2 weeks ago

ever wonder why the violence and anarchist behaviour didnt spread outside the little "safe " enclaves they carved out ?

 for sure we had protests here in this little burg  for BLM, they tied it to another case that was local though  , actual "really peaceful rpotest marches and gatherings , but they garnered little to no attention and there was no violence or destruction .

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.62  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.1.38    2 weeks ago
No one is innocent in any of it, including the boy.

Luckily, the courts see it differently.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.63  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.62    2 weeks ago

You all just keep on with these wonderful new prospects for your party.

I am sure he will do spectacular on a national stage...s/

 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.1.64  arkpdx  replied to  Ender @1.1.63    2 weeks ago

He will be better than AOC, Ilham Omar, and the rest of the "squad" (I'll bet ge doesn't marry his sister)

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.65  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.1.63    2 weeks ago
I am sure he will do spectacular on a national stage.

He's got you in freak out mode.  That's always fun to watch.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.66  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.65    2 weeks ago

Freak out mode? Seriously dude, get a clue.

I am not the one here rabidly defending the little prick.

Maybe if you hop online now you can spend your money and buy his new crappy video game.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
1.1.67  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.1.66    2 weeks ago
I am not the one here rabidly defending the little prick.

No.  Your the one making unfounded claims despite all facts surrounding the case.  But unfounded claims aren't all that alien to you now is it.

It must really burn your ass that despite all your crying, foot stomping and hair pulling he's still free to live his life.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.68  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.67    2 weeks ago

Sad that differing opinions bother you so much.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
1.1.69  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.1.68    2 weeks ago

It appears that, unlike you, opposing opinions Don't bother me one bit. 

I'm just calling out your willful ignorance on it while you rabidly try to convince me you aren't.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.70  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.69    2 weeks ago

The only thing you have shown is the ability to insult people.

Keep it up. trump showed it is a winning strategy...s/

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Participates
1.1.71  arkpdx  replied to  Ender @1.1.66    2 weeks ago
I am not the one here rabidly defending the little prick.

You should be unless you don't believe in the Constitution, the rule of law and and our system of justice. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
1.1.72  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.1.70    2 weeks ago
The only thing you have shown is the ability to insult people.

Oh, your insulted.  Not that I care.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.73  seeder  Ender  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.71    2 weeks ago

So you think the courts never get anything wrong. That no matter what just be faithful little puppies and do as told.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.74  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.72    2 weeks ago

Yet here you are...

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Participates
1.1.75  arkpdx  replied to  Ender @1.1.73    2 weeks ago

No courts get things wrong all the time and people appeal their decisions and get them corrected if need be. The Constitution, however, is clear that once a man is acquitted by a jury he is found not to have committed a crime. He can not even be prosecuted again even if he admits to the crime. Do you not believe in the the Constitution?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.76  seeder  Ender  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.75    2 weeks ago

What the hell. So you admit some cases are decided wrong, as we all know, yet somehow that equates to me not liking the constitution....

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Participates
1.1.77  arkpdx  replied to  Ender @1.1.76    2 weeks ago

This one it got right and you are bitching about it. Yeah sounds to me your against the constitution. There are other reasons I think liberal hate the Constitution. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.78  seeder  Ender  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.77    one week ago

Good Times.
Any time you meet a payment.
Good Times.
Any time you need a friend.
Good Times.
Any time you're out from under.

Not getting hassled, not getting hustled.
Keepin' your head above water,
Making a wave when you can.

Temporary lay offs.
Good Times.
Easy credit rip offs.
Good Times.
Scratchin' and survivin'.
Good Times.
Hangin' in and jivin'*
Good Times.
Ain't we lucky we got 'em
Good Times.

source: 

 
 
 
GregTx
Junior Participates
1.1.79  GregTx  replied to  Ender @1.1.78    one week ago
Ain't we lucky we got 'em Good Tiiiiimmmmeeeess.
 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ender @1    2 weeks ago
Run for Congress?

Not for at least 6 years.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
1.3  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @1    2 weeks ago
So go to a place he really had no business being, have someone hold and give him a gun, shoot people, then run for congress on the GOP ticket.

Is he running for congress?  It seems like he's just at this conference to speak.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.3.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  Jack_TX @1.3    2 weeks ago

He said he is going to when he turns of age. He was at more than this one conference....

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @1    2 weeks ago

That seems to be the requirement for today's gop/gqp.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ender @1    2 weeks ago

The Republicans/conservatives accuse the Democrats of being soft of crime while they venerate Kyle Rittenhouse.  Is that called an oxymoron or just plain hypocrisy?

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
1.5.1  George  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.5    2 weeks ago

You might have a point if Kyle was a criminal. But since he isn’t, your comment is pointless.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.5.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  George @1.5.1    2 weeks ago

In my opinion, ALL your comments are pointless.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.5.3  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.5    2 weeks ago

he was charged with crimes but the prosecution couldn't make the case convincing enough for the jury to convict. justice was served.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.5.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @1.5.3    2 weeks ago

Oh, yes, I know.  Personally I think the judge was Kyle's secret lover. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.5.5  seeder  Ender  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.5    2 weeks ago

It amazes me the rabid defence they pile on for this one person. Just because he killed someone.

 
 
 
George
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1.5.6  George  replied to  Ender @1.5.5    2 weeks ago

He actually killed two drains on society. He offset his carbon foot print +1

 
 
 
Ender
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1.5.7  seeder  Ender  replied to  George @1.5.6    2 weeks ago

Such Christian values the right wing espouses...,

 
 
 
George
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1.5.8  George  replied to  Ender @1.5.7    2 weeks ago

Who said I was Christian? A swing and a miss.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.5.9  seeder  Ender  replied to  George @1.5.8    2 weeks ago

So just out to troll. Got ya.

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Participates
1.5.10  arkpdx  replied to  Ender @1.5.5    2 weeks ago

It amazes me the rabid attacks on this one person just because he defended his life as proscribed by law and the Constitution and was found not guilty as he should have. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.5.11  JBB  replied to  arkpdx @1.5.10    2 weeks ago

If an armed black kid who found himself in the middle of January 6th fearing for his life shot and killed MAGA rioters, would you give him the benefit of the doubt, too?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.5.12  JBB  replied to  George @1.5.8    2 weeks ago

You certainty don't seem Christian to me!

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
1.5.13  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  George @1.5.8    2 weeks ago

i love it when they do that , and then act offended .

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Participates
1.5.14  arkpdx  replied to  JBB @1.5.11    2 weeks ago

Would you condemn the black kid like you do Rittenhouse?

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
1.5.15  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JBB @1.5.11    2 weeks ago

would have been better if you simply changed the shooters race but kept the same situation , instead of just playing the "race " card , you turned it political.

 That being said , under THOSE criteria , with the same things that transpired and the kid did the same things , i would side with the kid and self defense, ok shatsi?

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Participates
1.5.16  arkpdx  replied to  JBB @1.5.11    2 weeks ago

What difference would it make. Oh that's right your all hooked up on race. It all you got. Besides Rittenhouse was found not guilty by a jury of his peers. He has committed no crime. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Participates
1.5.17  arkpdx  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.5    2 weeks ago

What crime

 did he commit? I seed to have missed it. He was arrested and held on $2,000,000 bail just as he should have. Went to trial and was found not guilty by his peers. Just like we want for all people accused.  (the amount of bail may differ depending on the crime)  the liberals and the democrats keep proposing to eliminate bail. For all offenses. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.5.18  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  arkpdx @1.5.17    2 weeks ago

What crime?  Actually you're right.  Using guns to kill people has become such an everyday occurrence in America it's not even newsworthy, let alone criminal.  You should be very proud. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Participates
1.5.19  arkpdx  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.5.18    2 weeks ago

You do understand that here one is innocent until proven guilty right. He was acquitted of any wrong doing that means he committed no crime. What part so you not understand. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
1.5.20  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.5.18    one week ago
Using guns to kill people has become such an everyday occurrence in America it's not even newsworthy, let alone criminal.  You should be very proud. 

Well buzz , using a gun to defend yourself from someone trying to harm or kill you , should become an everyday occurance , wait , i think it is , there are just as many reports of people defending themselves now than have ever been reported , so maybe , just maybe the problem is the criminal element that think people wont defend themselves if forced to .

 killing some one trying to harm or kill you , is not criminal , even as a barrister you have heard the term , justifiable homicide . what ritterhouse did in defending himself was as was found in trial , JUSTIFIABLE. and thus allowable by law . no matter who disagrees with it or their petty opinions . .

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.5.21  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.5.20    one week ago

What a way of life - HAVING to have a gun to defend oneself in a civilian situation.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.5.22  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  arkpdx @1.5.19    one week ago

What I DON'T understand is why was it his fucking business to take a rifle into a different State to get involved in something that it was up to the police to deal with.  

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
1.5.23  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.5.21    one week ago

well some people do suck dead donkey balls

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
1.5.24  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.5.22    one week ago

he didnt cross state lines with the rifle, more misinformation that was cleared up during the trial  , it was already there in kenosha , he had already paid for it but wasnt suppose to pick it up from the person he bought it from until he was 18. as for why insert himself ? anyones guess really but irrelevent since he was aquitted . besides he was charged under wisconsin law anyway and i believe because of the court of public opinion already convicting him , the prosecutor over charged him with charges , that wouldnt stick .typical over reach on his part.

the distance from where he lived and kenosha is a 20 min drive , and he has immediate family that lives there(grandma for one ) , just happens its on the state lines .

 hell i lived in a place here in Wyo , if i stood in the middle of the street faced north south , one foot would be in wyoming , the other would be in idaho.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.5.25  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.5.4    one week ago
Oh, yes, I know.  Personally I think the judge was Kyle's secret lover.

Yes, it was all an elaborate plan from the very beginning.

But then Rittenhouse and his lawyers screwed everything up by having a jury try the case.

Liberals will have to find another dead horse to flog.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2  Trout Giggles    2 weeks ago
"It was an honor to have Kyle join the Second Amendment Caucus. He is a powerful example of why we must never give an inch on our Second Amendment rights, and his perseverance and love for our country was an inspiration to the caucus," Boebert told The Hill in a statement.

He's a powerful example of how to get away with murder.* Yeah...I want my grandkids to see this asshole as a role model.

*this is my opinion and I'm entitled to it. The jury was wrong in OJ Simpson's case, too

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @2    2 weeks ago

Somehow if the roles were reversed, I don't see these same people being on his side.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
2.1.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Ender @2.1    2 weeks ago

how do you mean reverse the roles? i am curious actually.

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Participates
2.2  arkpdx  replied to  Trout Giggles @2    2 weeks ago
He's a powerful example of how to get away with murder.

He murdered no one. 

I want my grandkids to see this asshole as a role model.

Better roll model than Michael Brown 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

It looks he has political ambitions, which fits right in with the dumbing down of America. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 weeks ago

Notice all the deflection. Not one word about him being a darling of the extreme right wing as they parade him around.

So I am taking that as they endorse him.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @3.1    2 weeks ago

Yes, indeed, you should take it as an endorsement by the gqp - killer scum are welcome and embraced!

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Participates
3.2  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 weeks ago
It looks he has political ambitions, which fits right in with the dumbing down of America. 

He is going to become a Democrat?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
4  Drinker of the Wry    2 weeks ago

I don't see Kyle Rittenhouse as either a hero or a white-supremacist vigilante.  That night in Kenosha, a 17 year old boy should not have been armed and downtown.  That he was, is probably a mixture of growing up poor, insufficient parental guidance, some ambition to be a paramedic or cop and the lack of common sense that teenagers can exhibit. 

The media, both left and right wing and their supporters turned this kid into the caricature that he became after that night. Likewise both sides took the opposite stance on who was shot.  The left saw them as BLM martyrs and the right as worthless criminals.

I have no reason not to accept the jury's verdict and I'm not surprised that a poor, undereducated kid, is taking advantage of his current right-wing fame. The people to blame in this tragedy are those that fanned the flames in Kenosha and those on both sides that immediately assigned a narrative to meet their agenda.

Perhaps the bigger victime here that both sides have quickly forgot is Kenosha.  An automotive rust-belt town that lost so much during the protests, and now a town polarized 50-50 without the funds to quickly rebuild.

 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4    2 weeks ago

This happened because Rittenhouse was in love with his gun. Since when are people allowed to shoot someone who is chasing them?  To people who love guns and love "stand your ground", everything is a reason for "stand your ground". 

In his mind Rittenhouse is a hero. He's not a hero he's a deluded punk. I do agree though that they didnt have the evidence to convict him of murder. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
4.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 weeks ago
Since when are people allowed to shoot someone who is chasing them? 

Apparently, the extensive video evidence and witness testimony persuaded the jury that each was in self-defence.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 weeks ago
Since when are people allowed to shoot someone who is chasing them?

Self defense in our legal system predates the modern English language. 

o people who love guns and love "stand your ground",

Running away is the opposite of stand your ground. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Participates
4.1.3  Sunshine  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.1    2 weeks ago
Apparently, the extensive video evidence and witness testimony persuaded the jury that each was in self-defence.

Remember the PA got caught tampering with the video evidence?  

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
4.1.4  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.2    2 weeks ago

It's always fun to watch when the facts don't fit the talking points that some are fed. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.2    2 weeks ago
Running away is the opposite of stand your ground. 

He stopped running

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.2    2 weeks ago
Self defense in our legal system predates the modern English language. 

He can punch someone chasing him, he shouldnt be able to shoot them and kill them just because he was afraid. 

When you believe guns solve all problems you "stand your ground". 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.5    2 weeks ago
He stopped running

Whether he finally  stopped or not, he tried to flee and then tripped.  That, again, is the opposite of stand your ground.  Trying to run away to deescalate a situation is a laudable thing. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.7    2 weeks ago

Rittenhouse pointed his gun at the guy because he claims the guy was going to kill him. There is no evidence of that. 

He is the opposite from a hero. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Participates
4.1.9  Sunshine  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.6    2 weeks ago
he shouldnt be able to shoot them and kill them just because he was afraid. 

He wasn't just "afraid" the guy chasing him tried to grab his weapon (eye witnesses testified).

You can't make up your own story.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Sunshine @4.1.9    2 weeks ago
He wasn't just "afraid" the guy chasing him tried to grab his weapon (as eye witnesses testified).

No. Rittenhouse pointed his gun at the guy. What was he supposed to do, let Rittenhouse shoot him? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.6    2 weeks ago
e shouldnt be able to shoot them and kill them just because he was afraid. 

The standard is whether he was reasonably afraid for his life.  He should never have been charged to begin with given how lopsided the evidence was.  But if you hate the concept of self defense, change the laws in all 50 states. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
4.1.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.6    2 weeks ago
When you believe guns solve all problems you "stand your ground".

Wisconsin isn't a "stand your ground state," and that wasn't part of his defense.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Participates
4.1.13  Sunshine  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.10    2 weeks ago
Several witnesses who saw the killings testified that Rosenbaum was acting belligerently, threatened Rittenhouse, chased him down a street ,   and lunged for his rifle. Grosskreutz himself  conceded  that he pointed his own gun at Rittenhouse, believing he was running after an active shooter. Kyle Rittenhouse: 7 Reasons His Self-Defense Argument Won (insider.com)

Rosenbaum was the aggressor.  Why didn't Rosenbaum leave instead of chasing Rittenhouse when he knew he had a weapon?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.12    2 weeks ago

He stopped running , from a guy that didnt have a weapon, and turned to face him, with his gun pointed. I call that standing his ground. You can call it anything you want. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1.15  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.8    2 weeks ago
at the guy because he claims the guy was going to kill him. There is no evidence of that. 

A violent criminal (Rittenhouse saw him committing crimes) threatens his life and starts chasing him as someone else fires a gun in his direction behind him.  What more evidence do you need? 

As a rule of thumb, don't tell someone you are going to kill them and chase them.  People have the right to take you at your word. 

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
4.1.16  George  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.14    2 weeks ago

Why should Kyle have to run away from a piece of shit? 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Masters Quiet
4.1.17  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 weeks ago
This happened because Rittenhouse was in love with his gun.

That was certainly part of it.

Since when are people allowed to shoot someone who is chasing them?  To people who love guns and love "stand your ground", everything is a reason for "stand your ground". 

John, if ever you find yourself in a situation where somebody is trying to bash your head in with their skateboard, I hope you will shoot them.  You would absolutely be within your rights to do so, and should feel no remorse whatsoever over it.

He's not a hero he's a deluded punk.

I don't think he's a hero.  I think he's a sad young man who went looking for trouble and....unfortunately.... found it.  

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
4.1.18  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.8    2 weeks ago
Rittenhouse pointed his gun at the guy because he claims the guy was going to kill him. There is no evidence of that. 

sorry John but that was testified to during the trial that rosenbaum did threaten to kill him , and that rosenbaum was angry that the group ritterhouse was part of had put out a dumpster fire he tried to start ., even the people rosenbaum was with reported that rosenbaumhad become "unhinged " with anger .

 and as before during and after the trial , your claims and opinions have not been supported by the presented facts or testimonies given .

 you lost then and your losing now .

I know , bitter pill , i suggest a spoon full of sugar .

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
4.1.19  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.14    2 weeks ago
You can call it anything you want. 

I call it that the jury found him not guilty, what do you call it?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
4.1.20  afrayedknot  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.19    2 weeks ago

“I call it that the jury found him not guilty, what do you call it?” 

Not guilty as well.

But that he has become a quasi-celebrity, paraded around to feed the need, only to eventually be jettisoned when his usefulness is spent, makes him but a tool in the hands of even greater tools. 

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
4.1.21  George  replied to  afrayedknot @4.1.20    2 weeks ago

Kind of like the idiot family of Michael Brown? Used and then tossed aside.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
4.1.22  afrayedknot  replied to  George @4.1.21    2 weeks ago

“Kind of like…”

Pick the tragedy, exploit the victims, promise change, discard after use, deliver nothing.

Tiresome is too kind a word to describe the self-serving vultures picking on the all too available fresh carcasses. 

 
 
 
George
Freshman Participates
4.1.23  George  replied to  afrayedknot @4.1.22    2 weeks ago

The lawyers get richer. Or if you are a big enough scumbag you go to jail, waving at you Avanatti.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
4.1.24  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.11    2 weeks ago

it doesnt sound to me like john is actually against self defense , it sounds more to me since he has stated that if it came to it it should have come to fisticuffs , but since one was armed with a rifle that gave an unfair advantage , so there should be a clear duty to retreat if one is armed before the use of a firearm becomes justified .and there are some states that have that law on the books , that one has a duty to flee or retreat before they can use a firearm in self defense , even in their own homes . I dont live in one of those states .

 problem with that thinking is ritterhouse did try to retreat and get away from his attacker in the first shooting ,, could say he was as far as he could go after tripping and being attacked with a skateboard while lying on the ground the attacker wasnt showing any mercy because he was down , fact is he looked to be actually more intent to press the attack because ritterhouse WAS down on the ground , "lefty" .... typical snake like actions appear unthreatening then try and use the element of surprise .when he pulled his gun .

 least we forget , lefty has petitioned the court to be allowed to change his name and keep his new name unpublished and anon  .....ritterhouse is still ritterhouse .

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
4.1.25  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 weeks ago
Since when are people allowed to shoot someone who is chasing them?

Since . . . Always? If people are chasing me, am I supposed to let them catch me? Beat me? Shoot me? You don’t have to have a high opinion of this guy, but he has a right to defend himself. If he happens to be armed, that just sucks for his attackers.

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Participates
4.1.26  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 weeks ago
Since when are people allowed to shoot someone who is chasing them?

When they are out to cause you great bodily harm. One of those he shot had already hit him with a skateboard showing their intent and another had a weapon also. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Participates
4.1.27  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.5    2 weeks ago

He fell down 

 
 

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