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Trump calls political enemies 'vermin,' echoing dictators Hitler, Mussolini - The Washington Post

  
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By:   Marianne LeVine (Washington Post)

Trump calls political enemies 'vermin,' echoing dictators Hitler, Mussolini - The Washington Post
Former president Donald Trump described his domestic opponents as "vermin" that posed a greater threat to the United States than countries such as Russia, China or North Korea, drawing rebuke from historians who noted his language parallels comments made by authoritarian leaders.

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On Veterans Day, the former president vowed to "root out" his liberal opponents, drawing backlash from historians who say his rhetoric is reminiscent of authoritarians


Former president Donald Trump denigrated his domestic opponents and critics during a Veterans Day speech Saturday, calling those on the other side of the aisle "vermin" and suggesting that they pose a greater threat to the United States than countries such as Russia, China or North Korea. That language is drawing rebuke from historians, who compared it to that of authoritarian leaders.

"We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections," Trump said toward the end of his speech, repeating his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen. "They'll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American Dream."

Trump went on further to state: "the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, they're not going to want to play with us."

The former president's speech in Claremont, N.H., echoed his message of vengeance and grievance, as he called himself a "very proud election denier" and decried his legal entanglements, once again attacking the judge in a New York civil trial and re-upping his attacks on special counsel Jack Smith. In the speech, Trump once again portrayed himself as a victim of a political system that is out to get him and his supporters.

Yet Trump's use of the word "vermin" both in his speech and in a Truth Social post on Saturday drew particular backlash.

"The language is the language that dictators use to instill fear," said Timothy Naftali, a senior research scholar at Columbia University's School of International and Public Affairs. "When you dehumanize an opponent, you strip them of their constitutional rights to participate securely in a democracy because you're saying they're not human. That's what dictators do."

Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a historian at New York University, said in an email to The Washington Post that "calling people 'vermin' was used effectively by Hitler and Mussolini to dehumanize people and encourage their followers to engage in violence."

"Trump is also using projection: note that he mentions all kinds of authoritarians 'communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left' to set himself up as the deliverer of freedom," Ben-Ghiat said. "Mussolini promised freedom to his people too and then declared dictatorship."

Steven Cheung, a Trump campaign spokesman, told The Post "those who try to make that ridiculous assertion are clearly snowflakes grasping for anything because they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome and their entire existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House."

Cheung later clarified that he meant to say their "sad, miserable existence" instead of their "entire existence."

Trump also received widespread criticism and condemnation recently from groups such as the Anti-Defamation League for saying in an interview that undocumented immigrants were "poisoning the blood of our country."

Domingo Garcia, president of the League of United Latin American Citizens, the oldest Hispanic civil rights group in the country, said at the time that Trump's comments about blood indicate his language is "getting more extreme," comparing it to Nazi propaganda about Jewish people.

Trump's divisive rhetoric comes as he remains the clear polling leader in the dwindling GOP primary field and as he and his allies have already started to plot ways for the federal government to punish his critics and opponents should he win back the White House next November. The Post recently reported that Trump — who faces 91 charges across four criminal cases — is naming the people he wants to investigate and prosecute, and his associates are drafting plans to potentially invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office, which would allow him to deploy the military in response to civil demonstrations.

In addition to attacking the "radical left," he also spent part of the New Hampshire speech lashing out at a New York judge overseeing his civil fraud case, calling New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) a "disaster" and reiterating his descriptions of Smith as "deranged." Smith has brought two indictments against Trump: one in a case charging Trump with illegally hoarding classified documents and the other alleging he sought to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power by seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election, leading to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

"The Trump-hating prosecutor in the case, his wife and family despise me much more than he does and I think he's about a ten," he said. "They're about a 15, on a scale of ten. … He's a disgrace to America."


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Gsquared
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1  seeder  Gsquared    6 months ago
Former Republican Representative   Liz Cheney   decried recent comments made by   Donald Trump   as akin to "Nazi propaganda."
Trump came under fire after   releasing a Veterans Day statement   via his social media platform, Truth Social, on Saturday. The former president's language included a pledge to "root out" several groups he referred to as "vermin" in the United States, which observers and historians likened to remarks made by dictators   Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini , which were used to later justify atrocities committed by their governments.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Gsquared @1    6 months ago

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JohnRussell
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1.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1    6 months ago

Liz Cheney is not Trump's type - She has integrity. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.1.2  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1    6 months ago
I heard she hates Trump so much because he turned down her offer to do things to him that even Stormy wouldn't do.

That's the level of discourse we can expect from Trumpists.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    6 months ago
She has integrity.

Which she all of a sudden got as soon as she said she hated Trump

 
 
 
Gazoo
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1.1.4  Gazoo  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.3    6 months ago

Just like mccain and romney, lol, and they don’t even see it.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.1.5  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    6 months ago
She has integrity.

Which became apparent to everyone when she stood up for truth and the Constitution.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.3    6 months ago

Her standing up against Trump's attempt to steal the 2020 election in spite of the impact that had on her political career illustrated her  integrity ("the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness.").

She could have done what most of her spineless cohorts did and kowtow to Trump (and not object to the obvious insane level of dishonesty behind Trump's Big Lie).   She did not.   She knew it would cost her dearly but she went ahead anyway.

Funny how she is now considered by 'fine upstanding' Republicans as a 'turn-coat'.

To me, she is part of the sane GOP that has been overtaken by the dysfunctional, irrational, Trump-supporting GOP.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Gazoo @1.1.4    6 months ago
Just like mccain and romney, lol, and they don’t even see it.

Yes, she has integrity much like McCain and Romney.   Good examples, in the political realm that is, of politicians who (relative to other politicians) have integrity.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.8  CB  replied to  Gsquared @1.1.2    6 months ago

It's sad too. Because it's misogynistic too. If I was a woman I would say something about it being here!

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.9  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.3    6 months ago

So what? She had a "lightbulb" moment during the January 7, 2021 event. About damn time. She finally realized that Donald Trump gives less than a damn about her , the 'cherished' constitution, and all of congress when his 'dream' of being a living 'god' for all times (while he lives) is on the line.  BTW, did Trump attend Ashley Babbitt's funeral service after she got killed in the Capitol? Nope. Did he say nice words over her misguided attempts to support a worthless cause on his behalf? Nope.  She meant little to nothing to him then and now.

As MAGA means. 

You see what means more to Trump: Trump's business world. He is: 1. In court where he never deigned to be when he was president.  2. He does not have to be in court now but he is on a regular basis.  3. He is even taking the stand and testifying on his behalf (its worth will be later determined). 

Suffice it to say he cares about Trump's business enough to show up and testify.  Trump gave a damn about what the rest of YOU thought about him letting others defend him on federal charges because that was governmental interests—not his!

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.10  CB  replied to  Gazoo @1.1.4    6 months ago

See what? McCain is gone down to silence if you know what I mean. And Romney finally got pushed to the point where his questionable "high standard" could not take bending down any lower. And so, Romney did the only thing he could do-depart. Leave the political stage. Trump controls all the GOP air around him and if he wishes to breath relaxingly again he had to go somewhere where Trump is not—outside Trump's political reach.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.6    6 months ago
To me, she is part of the sane GOP

You are welcome to your opinion.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @1.1.2    6 months ago

So classy!  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.6    6 months ago

Such a rare thing in today's gop - a republican with a spine.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.14  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.11    6 months ago
You are welcome to your opinion.

That's good to hear! jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2  seeder  Gsquared    6 months ago
Former Rep.   Liz Cheney   (R-Wyo.) ripped Republican National Committee (RNC) Chair   Ronna McDaniel   for dodging questions Sunday about former President Trump’s “vermin” comments, which Cheney described as “Nazi propaganda.”
“When @GOPChairwoman refuses to condemn the GOP’s leading candidate for using the same Nazi propaganda that mobilized 1930s-40s Germany to evil, it’s fair to assume she’s collaborating,” Cheney   wrote in a post on X , formerly Twitter. “History will judge Ronna McDaniel and every republican who is appeasing this dangerous man.”

 
 
 
Kavika
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3  Kavika     6 months ago
"We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections," Trump said toward the end of his speech, repeating his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen. "They'll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American Dream."

He should know, he fits all of the above, especially the vermin part.

 
 
 
CB
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3.1  CB  replied to  Kavika @3    6 months ago

Trump is smart enough to know that if he throws 'em red meat they will eat it up and be 'full' and love him for it. Or else. . . they will turn ferociously and see him standing there. . . .

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.2  cjcold  replied to  Kavika @3    6 months ago
fascists

Seems Trump is unclear as to the meaning of this word.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.1  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @3.2    6 months ago

the entire maga movement is ignorant of the definition of fascism...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @3.2.1    6 months ago

the maga completely liquid diarrhea bowel movement

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.2.3  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @3.2.1    6 months ago

I don't entirely agree.  Some MAGAs know exactly what fascism is and support it totally.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.3  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @3    6 months ago

Projection, deflection, and denial + delusion at its finest.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    6 months ago

From what I have seen, the response from the right to this has basically been "big deal". 

No level of Trump derangement hurts his standing with the cult. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @4    6 months ago

Trump just keeps pushing his rhetoric in more and more violent directions and certain members here will continue to insist that anyone who calls it fascism doesn’t know what fascism means.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.1    6 months ago

Trump would love some sort of violent civil uproar to take attention off all his criminal behavior. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.2  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    6 months ago

civil unrest is definitely plan b for escaping his accountability. trump ratchets up the violent rhetoric whenever he starts to slip in the polls.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.3  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @4.1.2    6 months ago

it's hilarious when trump's brainless sycophants pick up the tab for his violent rhetoric...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5  Greg Jones    6 months ago

His detractors seem to be offended by his words, when they could just simply just ignore him like most of us do..

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Greg Jones @5    6 months ago

Vermin:

people perceived as despicable  and as causing problems for the rest of society.

Sounds alot like deplorables.  Now where have I heard that before?

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2.1  Kavika   replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2    6 months ago
Sounds alot like deplorables.  Now where have I heard that before?

From Hillary Clinton and her exact words were ''she said half of Donald Trump's supporters belong in a "basket of deplorables".

She lost the election to Trump, could we be so fortunate to have Trump implode and lose the 2024 election by a landslide with vermin pinned on his back?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Kavika @5.2.1    6 months ago
From Hillary Clinton and her exact words were ''she said half of Donald Trump's supporters belong in a "basket of deplorables".

Oh, that's right.  And what was the democrat reaction to that?  I sure hope it was the same as they are reacting to a Republican saying the same thing or that would make them ............

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @5.2.1    6 months ago

If the right didnt have false equivalencies and whataboutisms, they would have nothing to talk about. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2.4  Kavika   replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.2    6 months ago

I don't much care how dems reacted, but of course, Trump with his usual bombastic BS just keeps going, communist, fascist, Marxist and thug.

He truly is a classless act.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.3    6 months ago

If the left didn't have But But But Trump they might have to talk about policies, and that would be a disaster.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  Kavika @5.2.4    6 months ago
I don't much care how dems reacted,

Exactly my point, thank you.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2.7  Kavika   replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.6    6 months ago
Exactly my point, thank you.

Actually, it wasn't your point you mis interpreted my comment to mean something other than my intent. 

My comment meant that I was no fan of Clinton so I have no interest in her comment or the dem or republican reaction to them. 

I'm also no fan of Trump so I do like to point out what a bombastic pile of bullshit he is and the good thing about him is that he never disappoints. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.2.8  cjcold  replied to  Kavika @5.2.1    6 months ago
She lost the election

Don't forget that Hillary won the popular vote but lost to Trump due to Russian involvement.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  cjcold @5.2.8    6 months ago
Don't forget that Hillary won the popular vote

And you still haven't got her a tiara.  

due to Russian involvement.

We've been waiting since 2016 for the proof of that

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  cjcold @5.2.8    6 months ago

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Tessylo
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5.2.11  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @5.2.1    6 months ago

Hillary was off by half and she was correct about everything regarding the former 'president' and little putin and everything else, which is why the RWNJs hate her.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.11    6 months ago

Still denying the undeniable 

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.3  Kavika   replied to  Greg Jones @5    6 months ago

Not offended by his words since they describe himself mostly. You would think that someone running for the presidency of the US would be a bit more articulate but he is speaking to his followers so we do have that to factor in.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.4  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @5    6 months ago

Does that make sense to you?   

Someone who has publicly stated his intent to vote for Trump as president of the USA claims that he just ignores Trump and recommends others do likewise.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.4.1  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @5.4    6 months ago

I don't listen to his rants and speeches, and I don't read any of the stories about him.

All I know is that I will vote for the Republican nominee, whoever that ends up being.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.4.2  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @5.4.1    6 months ago

Know who you are going to vote for:

I. Introduction The indictment in this case charges the defendant, then the president, with perpetrating an unprecedented campaign of deceit to attack the very functioning of the federal government to collect, count, and certify votes; to obstruct the January 6 congressional proceeding at which the election results are certified; and to disenfranchise millions of voters—all in a concerted criminal effort to overturn the presidential election results and prevent the lawful transfer of power to his successor. Because the defendant cannot mount meritorious challenges to the charges against him, his motions to dismiss the indictment on constitutional (ECF No. 113) and statutory (ECF No. 114) grounds rely instead on distortions and misrepresentations. The defendant attempts to rewrite the indictment, claiming that it charges him with wholly innocuous, perhaps even admirable conduct—sharing his opinions about election fraud and seeking election integrity— when in fact it clearly describes the defendant’s fraudulent use of knowingly false statements as weapons in furtherance of his criminal plans . The defendant’s motions cite cases that, upon examination, undermine his arguments rather than support them, and he improperly challenges the Government’s anticipated trial evidence at this stage. The defendant also claims that he could not have known his actions were criminal because, in the past, others who have questioned, challenged, or protested election results were not prosecuted. But the defendant stands alone in American history for his alleged crimes. No other president has engaged in conspiracy and obstruction to overturn valid election results and illegitimately retain power. The indictment squarely charges the defendant for this conduct, and the defendant’s constitutional and statutory challenges to it are meritless. The defendant’s motions (ECF Nos. 113 and 114) should be denied.

"But the defendant stands alone in American history for his alleged crimes.
No other president has engaged in conspiracy and obstruction to overturn valid election results and illegitimately retain power."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.4.3  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @5.4    6 months ago

Ignorance is bliss for some. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.4.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @5.4    6 months ago
Does that make sense to you?   

Of course not! But I've been credited with having at half a brain

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.4.5  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @5.4.1    6 months ago
I don't listen to his rants and speeches, and I don't read any of the stories about him.

Well, you know the olde sayin:

An informed citizen is the basis of democracy . . .

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Greg Jones @5    6 months ago

But he said mean things.  I think they are working on an indictment on that.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.5.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.5    6 months ago
But he said mean things.  I think they are working on an indictment on that.

Adam Schiff is looking into impeaching him for it even though he has been out of office for almost 3 years.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.5.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.5.1    6 months ago

We already know Schiff is a blithering idiot so his attempts to "impeach" a private citizen is no real surprise.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.5.3  Kavika   replied to  Right Down the Center @5.5.1    6 months ago
Adam Schiff is looking into impeaching him for it even though he has been out of office for almost 3 years.

And Trump still insists that he is still President, so hell yes Adam impeach him again.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.5.4  Kavika   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.5.2    6 months ago
We already know Schiff is a blithering idiot so his attempts to "impeach" a private citizen is no real surprise.  

Trump is no private citizen, just listen to him he is still president and of course a babbling idiot as well.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.5.5  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @5.5.4    6 months ago

meh, at least we have a hilarious state funeral to look forward to watching on TV ...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.5.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Kavika @5.5.4    6 months ago

Is he holding office?  No?  Then he's a private citizen.  Just like you and I.  Now that being said, how do you "impeach" a private citizen like this dumbass is wanting to do?

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.5.7  Kavika   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.5.6    6 months ago
Is he holding office?

He thinks he is along with hundreds of thousands of his dumbass followers living in their very own twilight zone. Schiff can hold the impeachment hearing at the same mental institution that ''One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest'' was filmed at and ''The Chief can throw Trump and his golden toilet threw the window.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6  devangelical    6 months ago

name another american, out on bail that wouldn't already be back in jail for saying the same things trump has said.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6.1  Greg Jones  replied to  devangelical @6    6 months ago

What things?

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.1.1  cjcold  replied to  Greg Jones @6.1    6 months ago
What things?

If you don't know by now, you never will.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Greg Jones @6.1    6 months ago

Things that hurt their feelings.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.1.2    6 months ago

there's only 2 persons here that disappear when their feelings get hurt...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @6.1.3    6 months ago

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JBB
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6.1.5  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.1.4    6 months ago

Then we should not be concerned when Trump lifts words and phrases straight from Adolf Hitler's speeches swearing revenge on those who are against him?

R I G H T... /s

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @6.1.5    6 months ago

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JBB
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6.1.7  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.1.6    6 months ago

No, we are pointing out why every news outlet is blasting Trump for using Nazi rhetoric and lifting lines right from Hitler.

The point is this appeals to Trump's base!

I hear you. Loud and clear. Plain as a bell.

original

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @6.1.7    6 months ago

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JohnRussell
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6.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @6.1.8    6 months ago

According to traditional  Jewish   law, a Jew is someone whose mother is Jewish or a person who was born non-Jewish, but converted according to Jewish law. A Jew who does not observe the commandments or Jewish traditions is still considered Jewish. The Talmud (Sanhedrin 44a) says, “A Jew, although he has transgressed, is still a Jew.”   

What makes a person Jewish? - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)

MAGA is political behavior and political affiliation. No one is born MAGA. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.9    6 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @6.1.7    6 months ago

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Krishna
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6.1.12  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.9    6 months ago
No one is born MAGA. 

Well, unless their mother is MAGA.

(Of course I believe they could also convert to become a MAGA jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif )

 
 
 
Dig
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7  Dig    6 months ago
... communists, Marxists, fascists

So stupid.

... that lie and steal and cheat on elections

Says the guy who lies, cheats, and tried to steal an election.

... poisoning the blood of our country

Hitler-esque.

Our threat is from within.

Yeah, the traitor himself and his supporters.

Trump is evil. As has been pointed out, dehumanizing rhetoric like this only serves to prep his cult following for violence. He repeats his alternate universe lies to them every chance he gets, like some kind of Jedi mind trick (or would it be Sith?) It's unbelievable that it still works on them. Hell, it's unbelievable that it ever worked at all. Effing morons.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1  devangelical  replied to  Dig @7    6 months ago
dehumanizing rhetoric like this only serves to prep his cult following for violence

meh, I'm counting on the most mentally challenged among the trump cult to heed his calls and make the first move, and I'm looking forward to defending america and constitution from maga domestic terrorists.

 
 
 
Dig
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7.1.1  Dig  replied to  devangelical @7.1    6 months ago

It'll probably be the day he's found guilty of something, and is being fitted for an orange jumpsuit.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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8  Vic Eldred    6 months ago

But Joe Biden actually DID those things. Maybe is the Nazi.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8.1  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    6 months ago
But Joe Biden actually DID those things. Maybe is the Nazi.

Those "things"?   What "things"?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @8.1    6 months ago

Prosecute his political enemies.

He also censored opposing opinions.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
8.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.1    6 months ago
Prosecute his political enemies.

Good grief.   Merely because Biden is the PotUS you conclude that he instigated the lawsuits against Trump while ignoring the fact that Trump in a grand style brought this on himself.   

More conspiratorial nonsense.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.2    6 months ago

Oh ya, everything is a conspiracy theory.

You do recall that for the first time two individuals were prosecuted for ignoring a House Subpoena.

Hunter Biden is now getting one and his lawyer doesn't seem too enthusiastic about honoring it.

Somebody who believes in law and order should condemn Biden's DOJ for prosecuting those two men if they let Hunter slide the same as when Eric Holder was allowed to thumb his nose at a House Subpoena.

I'll be watching you.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
8.1.4  Hallux  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.2    6 months ago
More conspiratorial nonsense.

Les armes du jour.

 
 
 
Dragon
Freshman Silent
8.1.5  Dragon  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.3    6 months ago

Jordon, Biggs, Brook and McCarthy ignored J6 subpoenas, "thumb their nose at subpoena" as you put it. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.2    6 months ago

Could some people just get any more delusional?

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
8.1.7  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.6    6 months ago

Delusion is the basement of their safe-space. Donald has convinced them it is the penthouse.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.1.8  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.2    6 months ago

trumpsters always assume that biden directs DOJ activities like trump did when he was in office.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
8.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.6    6 months ago

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TᵢG
Professor Principal
8.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.3    6 months ago
I'll be watching you.

Hopefully, you will pay attention.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.1    6 months ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.3    6 months ago

"I'll be watching you"

Sounds like the former 'president'

Really fucking creepy

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @8.1.7    6 months ago

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In trumpturd world, all that glitters is not gold

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.1.14  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.10    6 months ago
Hopefully, you will pay attention.

try posting the picture of a shiny object in the comments you want him to read.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.1.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.10    6 months ago
I'll be watching you.

What the hell does that mean? It sounds like a threat

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @8.1.14    6 months ago

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Gsquared
Professor Principal
8.1.17  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.15    6 months ago

It's a threat in the Trumpist-Fascist mode.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
8.1.18  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.3    6 months ago

512

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
8.2  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    6 months ago
Maybe is the Nazi.

Maybe. 

Maybe not,

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    6 months ago

So then you believe the conspiracy theory by a member of the gqp recently at a hearing regarding homeland security  that the FBI was involved and sent 'ghost buses' full of FBI agents acting as supporters of the former 'president' on 1/6 to instigate the failed coup or something along the lines of that nuttier than a fruitcake whackjob conspiracy theory??????

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.3.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @8.3    6 months ago

I wish I knew what you were talking about.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.3.1    6 months ago

Sounds like a personal problem

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.3.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.3.1    6 months ago

Start with Clay Higgins and you know exactly what I'm talking about.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.3.4  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @8.3.3    6 months ago

My mistake, these ghost buses were full of FBI informants and were sent to the Capitol on 1/6.  Ghost buses is a new one on Christopher Wray and anyone else talking about this newest whackjob conspiracy theory.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9  Trout Giggles    6 months ago
Steven Cheung, a Trump campaign spokesman, told The Post "those who try to make that ridiculous assertion are clearly snowflakes grasping for anything because they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome and their entire existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House."

Joseph Goebbels would be proud.

Can any of these trmp supporters say anything without being insulting?

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
9.1  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @9    6 months ago

Steven Cheung reads NT!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
9.2  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @9    6 months ago

It will be okay. Every time a MAGA says something hateful and stupid and completely bassackwards online a liberal angel gets its wings and a dozen young voters swear to never to vote for that bullshit...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
9.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @9.2    6 months ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
9.2.2  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @9.2.1    6 months ago

Nope, nothing like. "Red Wave Fiction"...

Young voters, essentially young women, are turned off by the gop's hatefulness!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
9.2.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @9.2.2    6 months ago

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devangelical
Professor Principal
9.2.4  devangelical  replied to  Right Down the Center @9.2.3    6 months ago

funny how republicans are so concerned about israeli jews, yet they despise american jews...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @9.2.4    6 months ago

They need the Israeli Jews to fulfill their Biblical End Times. Once that's accomplished they can all go to hell with the rest of the Jews

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
9.2.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  devangelical @9.2.4    6 months ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.3  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @9    6 months ago

So hateful and evil.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10  JBB    6 months ago

Yep, dehumanizing our others, fellow humans, as "Vermin", "Rodents" and "Feral Cats" is straight out of "The Fascist's Playbook". It is Naziass Shit...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
10.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @10    6 months ago

Lucky for us Joe doesn't try to dehumanize people he doesn't like.  "This MAGA threat is a threat to the brick and mortar of our democratic institutions," Biden said. "It's also a threat to the character of our nation that gives our Constitution life, that binds us together as Americans, a common cause. None of this is surprising, though. They've tried to govern that way before. Thank God they failed. But they haven't given up."

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
10.1.1  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Right Down the Center @10.1    6 months ago

More false equivalence. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
10.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Gsquared @10.1.1    6 months ago

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Gsquared
Professor Principal
11  seeder  Gsquared    6 months ago

The comments by some of the right wing elements on here reveals the following:

- Some think Trump's use of fascist/Nazi-influenced rhetoric is funny and, for them, a source of great humor.

- Some think Trump's use of fascist/Nazi-influenced rhetoric is acceptable and/or without consequence.

- Their only real response to Trump's use of fascist/Nazi-influenced rhetoric is to create wildly false equivalencies and attempt to distract and deflect.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Gsquared @11    6 months ago

This is related to the "I could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue" thing. 

It doesnt matter what he does, to MAGA it is ALL excusable. If Trump does it , it is excusable. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
11.1.1  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1    6 months ago

Some Trumpists might excuse his fascist/Nazi-influenced rhetoric.  Others clearly support it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @11.1.1    6 months ago

We have the endless defense of the indefensible by some.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
11.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Gsquared @11    6 months ago
Some think Trump's use of fascist/Nazi-influenced rhetoric is funny and, for them, a source of great humor.

Actually I think it is the reaction of some whose heads explode with every word that comes out of Trumps mouth that is a great source of humor.  Most people understand that Trump has no filter and talks all kinds of shit not to be taken seriously.  That is because he is a blowhard and a braggart.  Not the best quality but not enough to get ones panties in a bunch every day like it seems to do.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.2    6 months ago

Yeah....some people considered Hitler to be a buffoon, too....

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
11.2.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.2.1    6 months ago
Yeah....some people considered Hitler to be a buffoon, too....

If being a buffoon makes you a fascist then Joe is the king of fascists.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.2.2    6 months ago

totally missed the point

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
11.2.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.2.3    6 months ago

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afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
11.2.5  afrayedknot  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.2    6 months ago

“Not the best quality but not enough to get ones panties in a bunch every day like it seems to do.”

But inexplicably, it is enough to make him the front-gunner for the gop nomination. If it wasn’t so tragic it would just remain the tasteless joke it already is. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
11.2.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  afrayedknot @11.2.5    6 months ago
But inexplicably, it is enough to make him the front-gunner for the gop nomination.

While I think it helped him in 2016 I am thinking alot of people are tired of it now.  What is helping him IMO is his likely opponent and the disaster known as the economy.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
11.2.7  Hallux  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.2.6    6 months ago

None of which explains why his opponents for the nomination are doing so poorly.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11.2.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.2.6    6 months ago

Donald Trump is an obvious traitor. NOTHING should be "helping him". 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.2.9  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.2.3    6 months ago

Whoosh!!!!!!!!!!

lol

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
11.2.10  afrayedknot  replied to  JohnRussell @11.2.8    6 months ago

“NOTHING should be "helping him"…”

Like the pornographer he is…everything he utters is lewd, explicit, and yet somehow open for interpretation.

That he is being propped up, so to speak, by the fluffers who would gasp at that reference if only they understood it and would deny it if only they would…is why he is still stiff competition. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
11.2.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hallux @11.2.7    6 months ago

I assume his supporters feel he is the best one to beat brainless biden

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
11.2.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @11.2.8    6 months ago

Joe is helping him.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
11.2.13  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.2.11    6 months ago

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Gsquared
Professor Principal
11.2.14  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.2.11    6 months ago

Trump's supporters feel he is the best one to impose an authoritarian regime.  That's what excites them about him.  They can't wait.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.2.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gsquared @11.2.14    6 months ago

And that is what they want. They want someone to tell them when to get up in the morning, where to go to work, what to wear, what church to go to. They don't want to think for themselves.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.2.16  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.2.15    6 months ago
They don't want to think for themselves.

why start now? gather the lemmings and show them the way to a cliff...

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
11.2.17  cjcold  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.2.6    6 months ago
the disaster known as the economy

Far from being a disaster, the US has the highest GDP in the world. Stop drinking Trump's Kool-Aid.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
11.2.18  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @11.2.17    6 months ago

7th on GDP per capita 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
11.2.19  Jack_TX  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @11.2.18    6 months ago
7th on GDP per capita 

The World Bank says 12th.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
11.2.20  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Jack_TX @11.2.19    6 months ago

Thanks.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
11.2.21  Right Down the Center  replied to  cjcold @11.2.17    6 months ago

Koolaid is too expensive in the world of Biden

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
11.2.22  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.2.21    6 months ago

Most MAGAs make their own Kool-Aid in the still in the lean-to up against their outhouse.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
11.2.23  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @11.2.22    6 months ago

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Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
11.2.25  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @11.2.22    6 months ago

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Thomas
Senior Guide
11.2.26  Thomas  replied to  devangelical @11.2.16    6 months ago
gather the lemmings and show them the way to a cliff...

Aren't they headed that way already?  It might be funny if they weren't dragging the rest of the nation with them.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12  Tessylo    6 months ago

Today's gqp/republiCONS/CONServatives - so many of them are nothing but a bunch of thugs and goons.  Their first resort is hate and violence.

I just saw something about a Senate hearing where a republican rep. wanted to fight a Union rep.  Bernie Sanders had to tell the asshole republican rep. to ask a question that was relevant.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @12    6 months ago

His name is Mullins and he is a rep. from Oklahoma and he challenged the Teamsters General President Union leader to a fist fight.  During a Senate Environment and Public Works Committee meeting on 11/14

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
12.1.1  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Tessylo @12.1    6 months ago

Mullins can best be described as a typical ReTHUGlican.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
12.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @12.1.1    6 months ago

I can't believe the guy is a native american. what real indian would align himself with rwnj treaty breakers and mother earth haters?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Tessylo @12.1    6 months ago

He did that last year too with a union guy. I think he was a little more ready to throw punches today though. 

Mullins brags about creating his business (I think it is something in the plumbing line) but it turns out he inherited the business from his father. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.3    6 months ago

I think he bragged about that during this session also.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
12.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @12.1.4    6 months ago

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