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Ruby Garcia's Family Says Trump Lied About Speaking to Them

  
Via:  Gsquared  •  2 months ago  •  62 comments

By:   Nikki McCann Ramirez (Rolling Stone)

Ruby Garcia's Family Says Trump Lied About Speaking to Them
The family of Ruby Garcia says Trump has not had any contact with them, despite the former president claiming he had at an event on Tuesday.

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The family of Ruby Garcia, a 25-year-old woman who was murdered in Michigan last month, has accused Donald Trump of lying about having contact with them, and of using Garcia's death to villainize undocumented migrants..

Police have indicated that they believe the suspect, Brandon Ortiz-Vite, and Garcia had been involved in a relationship and that Garcia was shot to death by Ortiz-Vite during a domestic dispute. At an event in Grand Rapids, Michigan, on Tuesday, Trump highlighted that the man accused of murdering Garcia was an undocumented migrant.

Trump called Garcia a "beautiful young woman [who] was savagely murdered by an illegal alien criminal." The former president added that he'd been in contact with her family, who told him that "she had just the most contagious laughter and when she walked into a room, she lit up that room, and I've heard that from so many people."


Here is Trump claiming in a speech today that he spoke to the family of Ruby Garcia and what they supposedly told him. Then Ruby Garcia's sister who says Trump is lying about this entire thing and never spoke to a single family member. pic.twitter.com/kPVZ3HuGMH
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) April 3, 2024

Garcia's sister, Mavi Garcia, told ABC News on Wednesday that she "can confirm and assure you [Trump] did not speak with me or my immediate family."

In a separate interview with NBC affiliate Target 8, Garcia added that "it was kind of shocking seeing that he had said that he had spoke with us, and misinforming people on live TV."

"The focus should be on my sister right now, who she was in life. I want people to remember who she was in life," Garcia said.

As noted by Media Matters, the language Trump used to describe Garcia on Tuesday may have been lifted from her obituary, portions of which were printed in the New York Post.


Donald Trump said he learned about murder victim Ruby Garcia's "contagious laughter and when she walked into a room, she lit up that room" from her family. The family denies speaking to him, and that language appears in her obituary as reported in Trump's beloved New York Post. pic.twitter.com/RjeuEdLdIW
— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) April 3, 2024

Republicans have made crimes committed by undocumented migrants a flashpoint in their 2024 electoral strategy. The accusations of a bloody migrant crime wave ravaging the nation are not supported by national crime statistics, which consistently show that migrants are less likely to commit crimes than U.S. born citizens.

Regardless of reality, Trump has amped up his focus on immigration, describing undocumented migrants on Tuesday as "animals" and "not human." Earlier this year, the former president accused migrants of "poisoning the blood of our country."

As previously reported by Rolling Stone, the former president and his allies are drawing up plans to use archaic zombie laws to initiate mass arrests and deportations of undocumented migrants should he retake the White House in November.

Trump's rhetoric is not lost on Garcia's family. "It's always been about illegal immigrants," Mavi Garcia told Target 8 when asked about Ortiz-Vite's immigration status. "Nobody really speaks about when Americans do heinous crimes, and it's kind of shocking why he would just bring up illegals. What about Americans who do heinous crimes like that?"


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Gsquared
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Gsquared    2 months ago

Trump used this family's pain to further his racist political agenda.  And, he lied about speaking with them.  Oh well, another day, another Trump lie.  That must be lie number 50,000.  Trump will probably claim he was just joking.

It will be interesting to see the Trumpists jumping to his defense.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @1    2 months ago

oh great, now that family will be targeted with threats and intimidation by the maga insurrectionist mob of domestic terrorists...

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 months ago

Unfortunately, that is bound to be the case.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
1.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Gsquared @1    2 months ago

Trump is a piece of SHIT

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.2    2 months ago

A massive pile of SHIT

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @1    2 months ago

It would be easier to list when the former 'president' traitor shitstain told the truth.

The cult of the former 'president' will never stop defending the indefensible.  Lost cause.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2  CB    2 months ago

All this unsolicited trauma coming to this family. They did not ask for this distraction. This is so shameful. And Trump will be remorseless. Trump jumped from a police death he was asked to participate in. . .to ruining the memory of a family's tragedy that did not need it!

I have to wonder if the family can sue him for having done this terrible lie (pain and suffering). Nobody should be able to this. 

Trump did something similar in 2016 to a gold-star family, if memory serves me.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  CB @2    2 months ago

They probably cannot maintain a lawsuit for his lies about speaking with them.  If he started to defame the family, as he does to so many others, then possibly they could sue.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.1  CB  replied to  Gsquared @2.1    2 months ago

It is just so hard, because each family member and friends of the family and Ms. Garcia's friends will remember that a former president took this occasion to dishonor the family through lying and an occasion of disrespect (by not retracting the lie). Now, (sigh) Trump is 'forever' associated with Ruby Garcia's unfortunate death.

Here is another thing. Trump has broken nearly all of the customs and traditions used by recent former presidents. It is just incredibly sickening, we have to call it what it is, sickening that this man has been 'wild' on our television screens daily for this his ninth year running.

The other former presidents must be flabbergasted at the damage to the former president 'brand' that is taking place. Alas! Trump ruins 'everything.'

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3  Split Personality    2 months ago
"and I've heard that from so many people."

Almost every time he utters some similar nonsense he is lying and the average person should know how full of shit he is.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
3.1  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Split Personality @3    2 months ago

My favorite is "everyone knows".  

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
3.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Gsquared @3.1    2 months ago

… and “like nobody’s ever seen before”.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
3.1.2  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.1    2 months ago

That's one of his better ones.  Definitely in the top 10.  Maybe even top 5.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.1    2 months ago

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
3.1.4  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    2 months ago

What an idiot.   He always does that same thing with his hands, too.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
3.1.5  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.4    2 months ago

Where he jerks off two invisible dudes?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
3.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.5    2 months ago

They must be very tall dudes.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.1.7  CB  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.5    2 months ago

When he does that maneuver of his I think of some version of "Dad-dance." (Usually it because it is all a dad can do that is easy, painless, and rhythmic.) 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.1.8  CB  replied to  Gsquared @3.1    2 months ago

The Biden Administration needs to be on its toes Now!  Donald Trump is 'reviving the band' that got him elected in 2016 up to and including being bombastic and personal attacks. . . and it can work for him unless he gets rhetorically 'hit' back every time. Somebody should be assigned to listen and read 99.99 percent of every statement Trump puts out  to the public and if need be immediately respond to it. Starting 'yesterday'!

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
3.1.9  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Gsquared @3.1    2 months ago
My favorite is "everyone knows".  

Yea, 'some people are saying' cause 'everybody knows', 'and i've heard that from so many people', cause there is a lot of intelligent people saying 'i'm a piece of SHIT ! bigly !

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    2 months ago

Seems to me when he says "nobody knew" he actually is (unknowingly) admitting something that he just learned.   

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
3.1.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @3.1    2 months ago
My favorite is "everyone knows".  

Mine too:

Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.1.12  CB  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.10    2 months ago

And we can get ready for more of that kind of 'stupe' if he is put back in office for four more years. Get ready for constant bullying up and down the line. This time around, I am told Donald Trump will follow whatever thought comes into his head and he will not be deterred from it. That can't be good for us or this country. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.10    2 months ago

Trump is one of those people who think that if they haven't heard of something then nobody else has either. I think he's just  more blatant with it

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.4    2 months ago

He doesn't know Dick and those tiny little hands and rectum of a mouth.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
3.1.15  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.14    2 months ago
rectum of a mouth

That correlates with his shit for brains.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.16  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.5    2 months ago

he's impersonating the nightly silhouette he sees from behind the sheers in melania's bedroom window...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
3.1.17  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @3.1.16    2 months ago
the nightly silhouette he sees from behind the sheers in melania's bedroom window...

Her bedroom window is on the 58 floor of the Trump Tower in Manhattan. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.18  devangelical  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.17    2 months ago

her bedroom curtains are floor to ceiling and trump has learned her secret service detail always looks in the closet now before they strip search her, and then they put the plastic sheets on her mattress and set up the camera.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
3.1.19  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @3.1.18    2 months ago

It must be great to have retained your youthful imagination.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @3    2 months ago

he telegraphs every lie he tells...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
3.2.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @3.2    2 months ago
he telegraphs every lie he tells...

How old do you have to be to understand this expression?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.1    2 months ago

Well boxing evolved from martial arts but the telegraph was invented in the 1830's 

but fighters continue to telegraph their next move to this day. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
3.2.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.3    2 months ago

My daughter doesn’t understand why I say dial the telephone number anymore more than what a telegram is.  She doesn’t know what a fax is or a floppy disk is.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.5  Split Personality  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.4    2 months ago

That will keep her out of the old missile silos...

10 x 10 floppies, lol.

We still use the fax at the home office though less and less.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.6  Split Personality  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.4    2 months ago
why I say dial the telephone number anymore

or "punch this number in"

;)

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.7  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.6    2 months ago

Too funny, I was just reviewing changes to Hamilton Air Force Base and they have renovation pictures of The old Headquarters building with a phone booth in the main lobby.

512

I can't remember if its the door on the left or the smaller door to the right, lol.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2.8  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.7    2 months ago

it's probably the right door, just off the alcove. easier install...

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.9  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.6    2 months ago

Why do we say "turn on the lights"?

The original 1880s house light switches were round and the knob had to be turned one way or the other. 

512

Slowly they gave way to various push button designs.

The current toggle style light switch invented in 1916-1917 proved safer and more durable

but we don't say flip the lights off, lol.

We still say turn the lights on or off.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2.10  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.9    2 months ago

we had those in the ranch bunkhouse back in the 60's. the wallpaper was pages from an 1800's newspaper...

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
3.2.11  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.4    2 months ago

Ask her if she knows what a pencil is.  I often ask younger people that.  Or carbon paper.  I had a young tech guy set up a new printer a couple of years ago.  I wanted to make certain I could print envelopes.  He told me he had never used an envelope in his life.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
4  seeder  Gsquared    2 months ago

I just realized that I basically duplicated a seed from John Russell from yesterday.  One that I even commented on!  I just offered to delete this seed, but John graciously said not to.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @4    2 months ago

Some things bear repeating . . .

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5  CB    2 months ago

We have to deal with something about this tragedy, which it is, that is being left out: Ms. Garcia's sister makes an astute observation:

Mavi Garcia told Target 8 when asked about Ortiz-Vite's immigration status. "Nobody really speaks about when Americans do heinous crimes, and it's kind of shocking why he would just bring up illegals. What about Americans who do heinous crimes like that?"

The sad reality is sometimes romantic relationships turn sour and then end up in violence or death. It was not being an alleged illegal which got Ms. Garcia killed. It is the fact that the killer has a personality which allows him to be so violent that he could think murder and then carry it out. It is wrong to broad-brush every immigrant with this.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
5.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @5    2 months ago
Ms. Garcia's sister makes an astute observation: Mavi Garcia told Target 8 when asked about Ortiz-Vite's immigration status. "Nobody really speaks about when Americans do heinous crimes, and it's kind of shocking why he would just bring up illegals. 

Astute?  Maybe Mavi doesn't pay attention to the news, but many speak about American heinous crime and crime in general is a key 2024 campaign issue.

What about Americans who do heinous crimes like that?"

What about them?  When caught they are typically tried.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.1.1  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1    2 months ago

Again, damn it, you choose to miss the point. She is pointing out that Trump and his surrogates take a particular slant in RALLIES to talk about illegal migrants SPECIFICALLY, as if they are a SINGULAR cause of these sorts of injuries and deaths in our country, when they could talk on balance about all the murders and murderers that occur, IN GENERAL. That is, don't just pull out this tragedy and politicize it!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
5.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @5.1.1    2 months ago
when they could talk on balance about all the murders and murderers that occur,

I've never been to his rallies, but I think they do talk about crime in general, I know he has about Wash DC crime, as well as crime committed by illegals.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.1.3  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1.2    2 months ago

In which case you could be right or wrong by a matter of degrees on crime mentions by Trump. That being noted, Ms. Garcia's sister is stating that her sister's death by an alleged illegal immigrant (I don't know if he is definitively illegal) is not an opportunity for a presidential candidate to exploit!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6  Trout Giggles    2 months ago
Donald Trump said he learned about murder victim Ruby Garcia's "contagious laughter and when she walked into a room, she lit up that room" from her family. The family denies speaking to him, and that language appears in her obituary as reported in Trump's beloved New York Post. pic.twitter.com/RjeuEdLdIW
— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) April 3, 2024

There's his loophole that his supporters will use. One of his aides lifted that phrase from her obit and told OBM to run with it

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
7  Kavika     2 months ago

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, Trump lied, Nooooooooo.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.1  Split Personality  replied to  Kavika @7    2 months ago
“If your constitutional rights have been violated, we will defend you. If you have illegal aliens invading your home, we will deport you,” the former president said at one point.

Does that mean he no longer has undocumented workers at aMar A Lago or Bedminster?

Can we have Trump deported if the invasion has reached his own homes (again)?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @7.1    2 months ago

it's going to be funny when the DOJ digs up ivana...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @7.1.1    2 months ago

I just saw something in the NY Times about potential future raids due to witness statements of further stashed documents.

Shocker . . . 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.2    2 months ago

it's what all the desperation is about in maga world. they know if the trump owned judge in florida can't stop the documents trial, the orange menace has already convicted himself with his words and deeds and he'll be doing federal time. there's still missing documents and when they're produced, somebody won't be passing go and will spend the rest of their lives in prison. don't think for a minute that a lot of NSA eyes haven't been on trump and his mar-a-lardo henchmen since well before the FBI executed their search warrant there. jack smith is too smart to let any maga legal scum see his hand before the trial.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.2    2 months ago

as stupid as trump is, you know there's been some traps laid by the folks that take national security seriously.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @7.1.3    2 months ago

Yeah, all the 'legal experts' here on NT (outside of the folks who actually know what they're talking about like G-squared and Tacos) all got their law degrees at trumpturdU , including the former 'president's' legal representation.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @7.1.4    2 months ago

Absolutely.  They don't sell their country out to the highest bidder.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @7.1.3    2 months ago

That fucking moron, that fucking clueless moron.  'The boss said to erase the tapes' - the clueless turd also thought they would be loyal to him when he would throw his own mother under the bus?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.7    2 months ago
he would throw his own mother under the bus

he put wife 1, the mother of his 3 oldest children, 6 feet under a golf course in new jersey...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.9  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @7.1.8    2 months ago

... and she's still better off there then when she was married to him.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @7.1.8    2 months ago

. . . . along with . . . . .

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.11  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.10    one month ago

it just proves how willing immigrants are to do jobs nobody else will...

 
 

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