Donald J Trump - Convicted Felon
By: devangelical
another first for the republican party in america...
convicted felon ex-POTUS meets with his probation officer via zoom...
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democracy, the constitutional rule of law, and equal justice wins...
today is the day that trump meets with his probation officer and finds out he can't travel without prior permission, is subject to random drug tests, and can't associate with a lot of the convicted felons within his re-election campaign...
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now lets talk about an appropriate prison sentence...
25 years without the possibility of pardon or parole sounds fair...
The max he will face would be 4 years, but I doubt he'll get more than another fine.
... 4 years each count. the fine and appeal will be expensive. trump needs to do some time and multiple violations of the gag order and bail conditions will be a nice hole card to play for the judge, if he decides to let him off the hook ...
It's 1 1/2 to 4 years and they always run concurrent. Considering it's a former President with Secret Service personnel AND the lowest type of felony AND no one convicted previously has been given jail time, he'll get a slap on the dick and be sent home.
I'll be overjoyed if he has to do even 6 months.
He'll just get a fine. It might be a hefty one, but he'll tie it all up in appeals anyway. Now if someone would take his phone away...
Perhaps, but we'll see. I was frankly shocked he was found guilty on all counts.
He has a dick? Hold on I'll alert the media.
meh, 1 day or 100 years will have the same effect on the false equivalency crowd...
I think this judge will feel duty bound by his idea of fairness to incarcerate him, but for how long who knows...
Why. They were all related, 11 invoices, 11 checks and 12 ledger entries. It seemed to me to be an all or nothing proposition.
he has a poison mushroom...
I'm willing to compromise. pick 2 of the following...
my gut tells me trump has more bad news coming related to this conviction.
The morons are still saying 'what crime' when he was convicted on 34 counts. The morons include Turley.
pfffft, humping a porn star and then buying her off to keep her from blabbing about it a couple days before the election is perfectly normal in magaland...
and Playboy centerfolds . . .
I find it highly entertaining watching trumpsters scramble to find a scapegoat for the dilemma that their common criminal and now convicted felon hero has put them in...
Fridays-Sundays in Rikers Island prison in NYC, Mondays-Thursdays free to campaign with permission from probation office for 6 months
Correction: Parole officer not probation officer when he needs permission to go to a campaign event..
solitary confinement without a mirror in the cell
no TV, no cell phone, no fast food, no yes men or sycophants surrounding him 24/7... trump hell ...
No makeup or hair products.
not conventional ones, anyway...
Good point.
too bad they don't shave inmates heads upon arrival anymore ...
lol
they'd find a 666 under there I'm betting - another reason for that ludicrous combover
Wait until trumpy finds out that spray tan in prison is going to cost him more than 3 packs of Kools.
phew.. that rubbed on bronzer they have in prison smells like shit...
no secret service protection needed for an ex-POTUS in a locked cell ...
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Care to explain that bit of attempted (failed) racial humor?
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let it go. I don't have to put up with that bullshit...
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The proper sentence would be to tape his mouth shut and wait for his head to explode. That should take about a week.
The MAGA new theme song.
I think you're being generous there.
I think I'm being generous as well.
Wow, and folks accuse me of insulting religion. If there indeed were a man (let alone a god or demigod) who was torutured and sacrificed to save the world from his father's anger, comparing the conviction of a criminal like Trump to it would be trivializing that sacrifice in the extreme. In fact, my pastor friend objected to this very meme just this morning, and called it blasphemy.
Support for Trump has gone around the bend. Maybe we'll get lucky and it will stay there.
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too bad his mom never told him who his real dad was...
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That is not the accusation.
Think of what you told me yesterday about dissent.
No, that's just a meme you posted. I made the statement about people accusing me of insulting religion. I found the meme to be insulting to religion, and while I don't care if religion is insulted, it surprises me to see a defender/practitioner of that religion insulting it. Even inadvertently.
You told me memes were allowed because they were part of the discussion and a form of dissent.
Tell me now why my meme was deleted?
Did I delete it?
You are a site moderator who made a ruling on it yesterday. You engage with this group frequently. You should be monitoring him.
BTW my two memes were restored here already once by management.
So, no, I didn't delete it.
Why don't you ask the person who did?
I have a better idea.
Ok, well, have fun.
As I said yesterday, I appreciate it.
off topic per author/seeder
this article is about donald trump, not jesus. you're familiar with deleting memes that aren't on topic, as well as deleting memes that are, correct? not my problem that some people can't tell the difference between trump and jesus. the rest of your following comments are meta...
Well, on topic, but in opposition. I'd call that censorship.
some people think that they can dish it out, but then can't take it when it comes back on them. not my fault some miserable pukes that can't handle reality think they can flag virtually anything (memes, emojis, videos) to control the conversation, even when they are on topic. funny how some party members that cheer on their revenge and retribution candidate are the first to run whining to the site mods when they think it's happening to them and then realize that the CoH is a 2 way street.
the trump meme was on topic, it stays. the jesus meme was off topic, it goes. a compromise was reached last night, although the definition of compromise was also assumed that only 2 of the 3 parties involved would know what the word means. again, your convicted felon meme was on topic, but the meme comparing a convicted felon to a crucified deity was not...
Remember the furor over "stealth moderation", and the times you and I have been threatened with lawsuits? Good times.
They compare that steaming POS and worthless excuse of a human being to Jesus Christ, and Nelson Mandela, and Martin Luther King, Jr.
JFC
Jesus wept.
Adolf?
Yeah, the former 'president' is such a martyr, such a victim . . .
I heartily concur - CENSORSHIP
The WLB clan
There is a resemblance under the blubber and horrific spray tan turd tone
and Hunter and Hillary and Bill
I'm still waiting for the FBI to show up at my door...
How fucking deplorable to compare a worthless human being, steaming pile of shit to Jesus Christ.
I think you have to be out of your god damned mind to compare scum to Jesus.
I'm not religious and I call it blasphemy.
Somebody needs to go to confession STAT!
as long as you don't besmirch their golden idol...
Like this:
post trial polling shows trump slipping. it'll be a fun summer watching the GOP devolve into internal civil war... bummer...
LOL
" ... tears began to fall"
another fealty test for the faithful...
And the foolish will follow
There was a lot of anger over the injustice. It is a great way of letting off some of that steam.
You wouldn't want another "insurrection."
... only among hypocrites and morons that believe in an imperial presidency.
The injustice that has occured is the delay of his other trials.
It is a great way of fleecing the flock who are too brainwashed and/or complicit
I don't think that anyone should deliver veiled threats of insurrection as a means to solve a problem.
it's popular and trending among the true believers right now...
'foolish'
you are far too kind
the maga movement is already a purely liquid like diarrhea bowel movement - and it's going to get worse??????
sore fucking losers
Sounds like a threat to me - like the former 'president' has been threatening and ranting and raving and deluding ever since it fucking lost FUCKING BIGLY
Losers and loosers...
I saw an article on yahoo just a little while ago about the additional threats of death and hanging to Judge Merchan and his family and jurors and LIBERALS and DEMOCRATS and threats of hanging and death to LIBERALS AND DEMOCRATS and all those in the persecution of their lord god and savior trumpturd
You should seed it.
I have trouble copying and pasting stuff from my laptop. I don't know how to.
like food poisoning but worse - so toxic
the article is entitled Trump Supporters Call for Riots and Violent Retribution After Verdict
Reuters
I tried to go to the article and get the url, but like I said, not sure how to, having difficulty, maybe you or dev, if you could, could post a link or something
I found one by the same title on Reuters.
gee, usually their threats of violence take place between the convention and election. I guess they're running ahead of schedule. after observing their candidate's rapidly diminishing mental and physical health, that's understandable.
I've seeded the article.
trump's version of law and order...
You notice there were no riots, no stores being looted or burned? Nobody got shot and killed because of the verdict.
This is because those that have not done any of this are not liberals.
They know what others are thinking.
time to workshop some bumper stickers ...
Convicted Felon 2024©
LOL, scroll down ...
Maybe the former 'president' will be making out license plates to that effect
great. everybody in NY will have trump24 for a license plate on their vehicle...
Bad idea. That would definitely fuel his ego.
No way would they put him in gen-pop.
The SS would insist on administrative segregation.
Avengers…Assemble!!!
Like I said yesterday, when the jury started asking questions, it's was not a good sign for trump.
Now the Dems have to beat him at the ballot box so the real trials can start next year.
Good point... A lot of people left and right have completely forgotten about the other trials.
now republicans will be doing a slow simmer all the way to their convention. this is a mental litmus test for them.
The party needs to be overhauled from the top down.
it's up to the voters...
They have been in thrall to the most radical among them since the TEA party was welcomed into the GOP.
I had lots of run-ins with teabags years ago and sold off all my long guns because of them. I regret that now.
Teabaggers - the scummy astroturf (bowel) movement of the far right whackjobs - the beginning of the scumbaggery it seems when President Obama was elected
I had forgotten all about them - hard to believe - but the maga cult are far worse
The teabaggers and MAGA are the very same people.
They devolved into magats
maga was easier to spell...
yeah I can see that. Tea and Party are 2 words
When was the last time Trump actually WON a court case in which he was personally accused of something?
I think he's 0 - for.
And this was supposedly the ‘weakest case’.
Although it is good to see Trump face the music, this is still just a private citizen Trump trial.
What is really important in terms of historical precedent is bringing Trump to justice for his wrongdoing as PotUS. In particular, the Big Lie campaign and all it entailed.
It is terrible to see how easy it is to cause our system to delay these trials so that the electorate will not have resolution before we vote.
Aileen Cannon for Trump wife #4?
I want to see the terms of melania's renegotiated prenup...
Have you tried the Freedom of Information Act?
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Fox News is already saying, "But what about Hunter Biden"... Seriously... LOL
I listened to some post verdict rwnj radio last night and this morning. they were positively apoplectic, it was hilarious...
If Hunter is found guilty I hope he gets the max sentence
even that won't silence the maga morons...
The judge really should put Trump under the jail, for the next four years!
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Your point in context? No one knows the severity of the sentencing, so let us not assume a thing.
Plenty of time to do so after the fact.
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I doubt trump will get 4 years.... Most legal scholars are saying 1-3 years. I would guess 1.
Due to the extreme risk to the public of a convicted felon running for high office and the real threats Trump has made against the courts, jury, prosecutor and judges his punishment really should begin immediately, and remain so confined during all appeals!
Apparently Judge Merchan disagrees.
Ted Cruz
@tedcruz
This is a dark day for America.
This entire trial has been a sham, and it is nothing more than political persecution. The only reason they prosecuted Donald Trump is because Democrats are terrified that he will win reelection.
This disgraceful decision is legally baseless and should be overturned promptly on appeal. Any judge with a modicum of integrity would recognize that this entire trial has been utterly fraudulent.
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Don't feel bad, Ted.
Maybe Trump will attack your wife again and that'll cheer you up.
oh no, according to the alt-media, it's the democrat deep state to blame for their hero's criminal behavior...
democrats hired stormy to set him up... /s
I didn't see this change anything.
He can still run
If voted for he can still win
And if he wins he can still be seated and serve.
We shall find out in November.
a convicted felon as candidate for POTUS representing the republican party is poetic justice ...
One that could STILL beat the lefts chosen one in spite of that?
I would say karma had a hand then.
Ask and ye shall receive, you just might not like it though.
that says a lot about the people that would still vote for him, doesn't it? 5 months is a political eternity...
I tend to agree it does say a lot.
Both about the voters AND the candidates, the lefts anointed chosen , not doing as well as he should for the "cake walk campaign".
I have already decided and stated neither is getting my vote.
uh-huh...
I take it you either see an error in my observations of what's reported
Or my assessment of the situation ,
Or you think I'm lying about whom I will or not vote for.
As for the first two I would love to see where you think I'm in error.
As for the last one I can assure you , I like many others can't and don't give a flying rats ass what you think.
... opinions are like assholes. that feeling is mutual.
I never had any doubt about that, did you?
It does indeed say a LOT . . .
Yeah, right!
Some just gotta have the last fucking word . . .
Count me in
So you're admitting that a convicted felon is the best the GOP has to offer? Wow.
Biden/Harris 2024.
cream of the maga crop...
I am and will admit that is likely who the GOP is offering as a candidate, at least that's the way it appears.
I don't have to like it or hate it , I don't belong to the GOP, or what passes for democrats these days either.
I have already said , more than once , neither parties presumptive candidate is going to get my vote in November.
Some say they won't be voting for the former 'president'
We know they're lying
default republicans, they claim independent until they get a ballot in front of them...
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I think I would enjoy watching you try and prove that claim.
I do know , or at least can guess who will win the popular vote in the state I live in, and that will be who gets the electoral college votes from the state ( all 3 of them).
About the only way to prove or disprove anything , will be to take how many voted , subtract all the votes for each candidate and see if they match , just don't forget to factor in , some voters may leave that particular seat on the ballot , blank. Because as it stands currently , that is where my vote shall be found, with those leaving that seat blank.
You of course are free to try and prove otherwise.
like any other american, I only care that you vote and I don't give a fuck who you vote or don't vote for, as long as you can accept the results of a free and fair election. my comment was addressed to tessylo, not you, and there are voters like I've described, just as there are default democrat voters.
Why would you think that you are like any other American.
I have to agree with you, like I do most times, I don't really care who someone votes for as long as they vote.
I shouldn't have included you in my 'we'
I KNOW they're lying but like you said - I don't care who someone votes for as long as they vote - but they could be honest about it.
I thought I posted this reply directly to devangelical - I hate that I cannot edit my comments
I don't, I'm not.
Rest assured then , I do plan on voting, there are other offices on the ballot that need to be filled on local, state and even in federal representation.
I can accept whatever the results are for the presidential election no matter whom the electoral collage favors this go round without voting for that office, frankly I don't plan on complying or cooperating with either of those administrations irregardless of which wins. I haven't in the past during boths runs in office , don't plan on starting now either.
Imo , and yes it's just my opinion , it's sad we don't have ANY worthwhile candidates.
It's even sadder to me , that either of the ones to choose from could actually win, but that is how it's set up, someone's going to win.
Uh-huh, sure.
The fact that he blamed it all on Biden and any other scapegoats he can think of as the real culprit confirms his lifelong obsession of denying blame of anything and everything he has done wrong.and every law he has ever broken. He has no conscience when is relates to his own immediate family members, and the price they will also pay because of their name.
To Trump, everyone is fair game, and he shows no remorse in pointing the finger of his own tiny hand at the devastation they will endure the rest of their life. While his two older sons and Ivanka voluntarily submit to their own peril, others if his family, such as Barron, are wrongly subjected to the un-American and criminal reputation of his own Father who sees himself guilt free of any wrong doing and refuses to accept any wrong doing at anyone's else's dire expense.
JMOO
they deserve whatever negatives happen to them in the future ...
I totally agree, dev. While Ivankas' seeming withdrawal from her Fathers' inane and illegal acts, she may still be held liable for her own willingness to support/assist her Father in his fraudulent/criminal acts, I am not sure yet if she will also be held accountable for her own parts in her Fathers' illegal and/or criminal acts. I guess we will see where it all ends as he, and perhaps members of his immediate family, face his other fraudulent/criminal acts and their own participation in them.
JMOO
ivanka is in a more lucrative transactional relationship now and doesn't need her daddy anymore.
Indeed she is, dev. And dear "Daddy" has lost another scapegoat he could always count on to take the fall for him. Compared to her two brothers, she was finally able to see the real person she needs to beware of.
she posted a photo yesterday of herself as a small child with her father, and the caption "I love you dad" .
Maybe she wants to make sure she's not written out of the will.
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within 4 years I see jr dead of a drug overdose and eric being taken to the cleaners after lara finds somebody a little smarter with a lot more money after he goes to prison.
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The entire Trump team are 'losers', which is Donald's favorite put down for anyone but himself, when Trump is the biggest 'loser' in the lot.
Trump is now facing all the restrictions due to his extensive 34 count conviction, which he may not have anticipated before, as he arrogantly thought he would never be found guilty.
And this is just the beginning.
trump is looking pretty bad trying to re-litigate his case on TV the day after. his comb over is suffering bigly...
Ew. I can't watch.
Where it Trout Giggles' cat puking gif when you need it?
I don't think I could watch it either.
lol
Drunk Ronnie Jackson saying his memory wasn't as good as Trumps.........duh.
I wonder what drugs the good 'doctor' was prescribing himself during that fiasco of a criminal enterprise of an administration
I believe he was investigated for self prescribing Amien as well but it didn't rise to the level of punishment beyond what they could prove concerning treating and prescribing for members of Congress or inappropriate sexual comments to subordinates, bullying and retaliation.
They could not prove beyond dozens of affidavits that he routinely was drinking vodka on the job. Covid actually helped him because it was normal to label one's coffee or water for health reasons.
The initial investigation started when Trump nominated Jackson to head the VA. As things went downhill, Jackson withdrew his nomination.
After a scathing Pentagon report in 2022, Jackson who had retired in 2019, three years after being promoted to Admiral, was demoted to Captain with the appropriate reduction in retirement pay.
What is unclear is if he had to repay the difference he collected from 2019 to 2022.
Math continues to challenge Ronnie who routinely yells people he retired after 30 years as a rear Admiral.
He officially was in the Navy 25 years. ( Maybe he included medical school? )
None of his websites acknowledge his demotion to Captain and he continues to state ( not incorrectly) that he retired as an Admiral.
Ambien and most sleeping pills scare me - the side effects are scary - people driving and doing goodness knows what else while asleep
I read an article today saying if trump is elected, there's over 30+ countries that won't admit him because of his criminal record.
Awesome. He wants to be POTUS, but can't travel internationally to represent his country.
he never did...
You have a link for that story? I would love to read it.
Why don't you find it for yourself?
Because as so many including yourself are quick to point out, he raised the point and the burden of proof is on him.
I saw it on the internet, by a couple different outlets, look for it yourself if you have any doubts about my comment ... idgaf...
oh no! not that commie radical leftist rag!
can't you find that story on media that isn't owned by those awful indoctrinating liberal elites that hate america? /s
It this true snuffy, for the "average person" , but we all know elected heads of state get treated differently than the average.
Don't include me in your lies
Thank you for this. I don't read Newsweek so I never would have seen this. Course the article is a bit different than what was portrayed up in 22 as the article states "could", not "will'. Also those are limitations for average people, I doubt the same rules would apply to heads of state. After all, the odds of you or I being invited to a state dinner at the White House is very low but they invite all sorts of criminals who are also heads of state for other countries.
It's a shame that when politely asked for a link all some people can do is toss crap.
it's a shame when somebody that obviously has access to the internet can't find the information for themselves...
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It seems all some can do is whine and then must have the last word.
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Canada and the UK, China and Israel off top of my head, hope it doesn't rain.
Trump can no longer own a gun, have a security clearance or go to Scotland.
What makes you think that?
I don't believe that there are absolute restrictions on any of those without exceptions. Whether or not Trump fits within any of the exceptions is another question.
I would say that the only way he can get a security clearance is to be elected POTUS again.
Yes, it's inconceivable but since we rest everything on what the FF wrote in the Constitution 250 years ago, if they didn't foresee it and codify that restriction, it doesn't apply.
It defies common sense, but then the chances of this Congress correcting it now are Slim and None.
am I misremembering that after he lost in 2020 that trump shut joe off from everything during the transition? if so, F trump, what are his sycophants going to say? I hate when democrats try to play hardball with a hollow plastic bat. an EO would keep trump from any classified briefings while he awaits trial for illegally and willfully retaining them previously, and being indicted for it. an EO might even expedite the bought and paid for federalist foot draggers in SCOTUS to render a faster decision.
Hoist by his own petard?
I like it.
it's basic when dealing with playground bully mentalities. they don't respect compromise, reason, or logic. they interpret that as weakness. I've dealt with these types of people all my life and when they test you, you fuck them up immediately and catastrophically, and only then will they respect you afterwards.
I heard, and I don't know if true, but entirely possible for that sore fucking loser, that on the day President Biden became President, the former 'president' toddler dismissed all White House staff.
and yet Biden so far intends to let Trump be briefed...........
there needs to be 2 briefings. one for trump with bogus info to pass on to putin, xi, and kim to entrap him into espionage, and then the real briefing for the president, trusted dept heads and intelligence professionals.
Excellent!
What The GOP is Not Saying
Amid the GOP suck-a-thon it is worth noting that the NY hush money/election interference case is just one of many legal challenges Trump faces.
You may even have forgotten this one from late 2022: Jury finds Trump Organization guilty of tax fraud on all counts - ABC News
The Atlantic has a useful running tally of the rest:
The New York fraud case that Trump has already lost.
The Defamation and Sexual Assault cases that he has already lost (twice). The judge in the case has said that the jury found Trump liable for “rape.”
The Purloined Document case that charges Trump with “37 felonies in connection with his removal of documents from the White House when he left office, [including] willful retention of national-security information, obstruction of justice, withholding of documents, and false statements.”
The Fulton County Election Obstruction case, “a huge racketeering case against Trump and 18 others, alleging a conspiracy… with the aim of stealing the 2020 election.”
Jack Smith’s Election Subversion case, which charges Trump with four additional felonies for his corrupt attempts to remain in power after losing the 2020 election. This case is on hold while Trump’s claims of absolute immunity are considered by the Supreme Court.
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Despite all of this, the GOP is set to nominate Trump next month for another term in office. The furious reaction to his 34 felony convictions is an exclamation point on the GOP’s refusal to regard Trump’s rap sheet as disqualifying.
Pay attention to what Republicans are saying .
Many complain that the charges are strictly political, while others object to the nature of the charges. But no one is saying that he is innocent.
Not even his most slavish butt-kissers are arguing that Trump did not schtupp a porn star while his wife was recovering from the birth of their child. His defenders know he is lying about that. They may argue that he did not commit a felony when he paid her hush money, but no one is arguing that he did not, in fact, pay her money to keep her quiet before the 2016 election.
The New York trial spotlights the sleazy world of Trumpism. And, whether or not his conspiracy constitutes a felony (it did), it was a remarkable reminder of the man’s character and his fitness for office. The cheating, the lies, the threats, the smears, the payoffs, the fraud, the coverups, the corruption.
Leave aside for a moment the verdict of the jury: the GOP is looking at all of this as saying, “Yeah, we’re fine with that.”
While the MAGAfied GOP objects to efforts to hold him legally accountable for his actions, vanishingly few deny that he took those actions. They know (because there’s a tape) that he made the call to find the phantom votes in Georgia; they know he cheats on his taxes; they know that he has contempt for women; they know he tried to derail the certification of the election; and they know that he took the documents and refused to give them back. They know that almost every word out of his mouth is a lie.
Trump’s Republican allies don’t want him held legally accountable for any of that. But they know he did it all. And they are okay with it.