A Fish's Incoherent Thoughts
Ok...he won. I accept it.
My brief analysis is this: If Harris could stay on topic about her policies instead of always wanting to tear him down, I think she might have done better. I would rather hear about what she intend to do about the border, fix inflation, and strengthen our ties with our allies. What were her foreign policies?
Michele Obama once said when they go low, we go high. Harris forgot that.
Ok...hook, me, gut me. throw me on the grill
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Fishing sounds like a good idea right now
I voted early, and have spent the last week and a half in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the big empty. Only reason I could post this is I had to find a laundromat and a shower. Here are some of the things I'm chasing, keep in mind it Was taken through a spotting scope with a phone camera from. 1600 yards away.
Morning...what any sane American should do..
I haven't watched the news for weeks sick of politics here and abroad full stop..
Far more better things to do, brush the cat, brush the cat, got to stop brushing the cat ... it's nearly bald..🤣
Looks like you are having a good time..good on ya..
Hmm 1.5 weeks without a shower..could be a bit whiffy..
Shoot birds? Most Americans have never shot anything and have no desire to.
Birds? What birds?
Aren't they deer? Well at least it's better than shooting each other.. for the moment..😁
Whatever.
Time for an eye check up I think..
Well if you did shoot at something good chance you would miss..🤣
Those be pronghorn antelope, skittish little things that act as nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. They run when a cricket farts.
As for the personal hygiene it is debatable which I was more in dire need of , the shower or clean clothes. I got both.
Probably. I need new glasses.
Assume they are good tucker (food)?
Or are they a pest and being culled..we have deer here in plague proportions and we are now culling them..
Deer farmers went bust and released them into the bush..no preditors here and bingo another introduced pest into the country..
I like them , as food as well. It's personal taste really some like them some dont.
I do.
Thing is here in the states, most places use hunting to keep populations in check and somewhat balanced by species If they need to do additional culls they always have that option as well. But generally the scheduled hunts seem to work out very well.
Antelope? I can't tell from your photo and that's not your fault
I've shot targets but I'm not a hunter. Oh, I have shot at turkey vultures. Not to kill or injure just to scare them off. Local cops said we had to stop doing that.
But I were hungry I might shoot a rabbit
We have an abundunce of deer in my yard both front and back. The jerks eat my flowers. I would like for someone to come out and take them out with a crossbow
Morning Trouty..yes I can imagine that would be very frustrating..get the garden looking nice and something comes in and mows everything off..
Don't have that problem where I live see and occasional wallaby bouncing down the road and munching on grass but nothing that does to much damage..
Not my photo..
cute little fellow
... uh, ... yeah, right ...
Crikey..I couldn't get past the accent..
What part of the country is he from?
Trump supporters will demand he fulfill all his anti-human promises. Best case is that he tells them all he doesnt care what they want. I'm actually expecting a form of that response, but probably caked enough in bullshit that the rubes will swallow it.
He's from Tennessee.
Ya know if they cull the herd (poor people, immigrants, etc) whose gonna scrub their toilets and pick their lettuce and tomatoes for their Big Macs?
... and who's going to put their corpses in a ziplock and clean their brains off the walls, ceilings, and floors? /s
I don't see why you have a problem with his accent. He's real easy to understand and very popular.
I turn the closed captioning on when I watch youtube videos from oz ...
It's a bit over done on the Outback Steakhouse commercials.
The Wolf.
it's been americanized for consumers, kind of like asian food ...
Yeah, Outback Steakhouse, came about right after the Crocodile Dundee movies I believe.
here's an example. "old banger" definitions -
oz - automobile
us - long term spouse
Morning Tess... yep could understand the language but the accent is so strong... don't think I have heard one that strong before.
The American accents I have heard are more subtle..
Morning Vangy..that dictionary must be getting a right work out..
Actually his is pretty subtle compared to some southerner's drawls.
I'm convinced the thickest southern accents are forced. it's another one of those "up yours yankee" heritage things. I can fake a convincing southern accent. I was born in the south, lived in texas, have relatives in texas, and none of their kids have southern accents, or at least barely detectable around family. I know multi-generational latinos born and raised in texas without southern accents. I have relatives whose southern accents come and go with their social surroundings. I've met people that complained they sometimes felt victimized by those in the service industries here that couldn't understand their southern drawls. it made them feel stupid. duh. when I hear some southern accents, I almost want to ask if they can play banjo too ...
you may have to oz-sponsor me if it goes any more bonkers here ...
Geez things must be crook over there if you want to migrate to the great rock or giant sand bar..
The only requirement is you have to eat 10 jars of Vegemite in 10 minutes..
Can I cross you off the list??🤣
You can cross me off! I tried it once and I almost barfed.
I don't think I'd mind Canada at all - cold weather and all.
I like the sand, I like the sea, I like red sandstone. if I have to eat a years worth of roo biscuit jam, it'll be while sitting on your dunny ...
I believe you are correct - especially when it comes to some country music - it's like you have to sound like a hick sometimes to be accepted.
'when I hear some southern accents, I almost want to ask if they can play banjo too ...'
I like to be at the ocean - don't like to get in it necessarily - but love to hear the sound of the waves crashing on the beach - great to fall asleep to......
I remember one time some good friends and I were down at the ocean at a real nice condo with a deck and we were out on it playing cards one night and getting high and blasting music and there was a thunderstorm going - we had such a good time. It was right on the beach.
I'm sorry if that sounded catty.
You're cool
Arvo..I could hear the banjos playing from here as well..
Arvo..huh a red back spider would soon shift ya... that's their favourite haunt..
Not my photo and sure as heck wouldn't be sitting on the dunny with it..
shit. I can count the number of mosquito bites on 1 hand in the past decade, but every spider in the state wants to find out what I taste like.
I've rarely been in over my knees since I saw the movie jaws ...
He's a hick of the good variety. Not the traitor trump voting kind, not the incestuous inbred kind, not maga that is.
Or I since I got stung by jellyfish as a kid...
Spiders - I hate spiders! Reminds me of the Indiana Jones movies - he's scared of snakes and his dad is scared of rats
'Why did it have to be spiders?'
black widow √
brown recluse √
the brown recluse left a scar on my arm ...
Harris was stuck with the Biden policies and could not separate herself from them. As you stated she did not push her agenda and totally lost the border issue.
So, Trump is what we get, sadly.
If only Biden acted as the moderate, he promised to be he could have won by simply doing nothing for 4 years.
I honestly think Biden would have won if the democrats just hadn't panicked. The elitist like Clooney and Pelosi shit the bed and now the party has to sleep in it.
I think that Biden would have lost with his unpopularity rating. If he had dropped out a year ago, and held a primary, they might have won.
I'm glad. Let them defame each other now.
Now its Clooney and Pelosi's fault?
Jesus Christ himself could have come down from heaven and told you people to vote for Harris and you would have voted for Trump anyway.
Didn’t JC avoid politics?
Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"
Trump said 75 times during 2019-20 that his phone call with Zelensky was "perfect". Forget the fact that the phone call was obviously not "perfect" (anything but) . what kind of psycho keeps babbling like that in public? But you all voted for him because of the price of eggs.
That’s just your bias running away with you. I voted for Harris two weeks ago.
I think that many on the left are still in a state of shock and refuse to recognize Trump's election for what it is.
This was a complete repudiation of the progressive's far left agenda by more than half the electorate across all geographics.
4 years should be long enough for trump to lead his brainless lemmings over the cliff ...
wrong. this election was an accurate count of gullible voters that support a criminal/traitor in the oval office.
aka the unamerican dipshit tally in the US ...
Respect.
I think that was a lot of it, but it wasn't only her, in my opinion. I think a lot of people wanted to hear what you wanted to hear but instead, got too much of the black Asian female schtick from the talking heads, and I think people got really tired of it. It's fine to be those things, but they are incidental, especially when no one can tell what her policies were.
Incidentally, I'm glad Harris lost but I'm not happy Trump won. To me, this was a lose, lose proposition. It just makes me sick that this was the best we could put forward. Populism sucks.
Let's do better in 4 years
Funny you never said that until after he won. You spent 200 comments the other day defending him.
Untrue. I've expressed that exact sentiment for months now, for the few times I bothered to comment on political issues. I stated long ago that I would vote for neither candidate and even expressed my dissatisfaction in terms of lose, lose.
This isn't said in order to get a dig in on you but, represents what I see as your greatest hindrance to involving yourself in politics rationally. You hate Trump so much that you see anything, anything at all, that doesn't outright vilify Trump as supporting him.
While I'm not going to bring that discussion here, my only purpose for creating that Blog was to discuss the truth or falseness of how the Dems/Left (media) portrayed the Trump/Cheney comments. Your only contribution to that discussion was castigation for questioning their narrative in the first place. Can you truly not see the problem with that? Can you not see that such means that, by your actions, narrative takes precedence over whether the narrative is true or false? Is it your position that any propaganda is permissible if it achieves the goal of the cause? Because if so, then I'm doubly glad Harris lost, and so overwhelmingly. I do not want people who operate that way in control of my government.
Will you please stop pretending you didnt want Trump to win the election?
As far as hating Trump , there is overwhelming evidence that he is a traitor. And yeah, I dont care for traitors.
He is easily the most unfit for office president we have ever had, and there is no doubt at all history will agree. It doesnt even matter what he does in the next four years.
And this was a de-facto support for Trump because you did not allow that the Republican/Trump/Right media was spewing more falsehoods and more "Propaganda" as defined by you. But no, you just wanted to limit the discussion to that one specific incident and label it as propaganda. It was a strawman then and it is still a strawman because of the larger implications of your argument. In essence, you were blind to any wrongdoing by the right and concentrated solely on the Dem/Left media.You should have looked at the whole of media and called out all of the propagandists, not select one issue and make it appear as if Dem/Left media were Propagandizing.
As I said, I'm not bringing that discussion here. Thanks.
He's not fooling anyone.
You're not fooling anyone.
He said she should be in front of a firing squad.
No biggie according to you.
Thank- you for trying to stay on topic
I cannot express my happiness whenever I think about how much fun I'm going to have mentally torturing religious hypocrites during the reign of their "chosen one" ...
True
Are you serious? This is all ridiculous. Fucking ridiculous. What the fuck are you blaming Harris for?
Everyone has seen Trump for the past nine years. Everything that has been said about him is true. He is a terrible, totally unethical , crooked, racist, moron. Look at his campaign for christs sake. Harris is the not the problem, the American people are. Stupidity, racism and misogyny.
Most voters now disagree!
As Henry Fonda said in 12 Angry Men: "You are in the minority now!"
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Isn’t it.
Worthless
You picked a POS candidate who is worse than trump according to the American people.
Which doesn't say much for the American voter who got fed a line of shit by Trump and swallowed.
Yup, they ate it all up with a spoon and were begging for more......
it's rule by the willfully ignorant majority for the next 4 years now ...
Some folks think they'll greatly benefit .... I don't think they're in the league of those who will benefit from the traitor. I don't think there are any millionaires here, the only ones who would benefit.
as soon as trump breaches the constitution after 1/20/25, his supporters will pay a very high price ...
Amazing that 16 years ago, I was at the Theatre in NYC when the play was interrupted to announce Obama as the winner. The country was filled with bright, shiny people then. Now, stupidity and racism - what happened?
Did you read her blog? She explains it rather succinctly and not at all hard to understand.
Pretty sure that whatever reason she might have given wouldn't matter to you, though. If road kill was the Dem ticket, your position would be any good and virtuous person should vote for it because it isn't Trump.
Also, it may be Trump got as many votes as he did simply because people are growing more and more tired with your sort of attitude and views. Calling people what they know they are not isn't going to win friends and influence people anymore.
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John, take a breath, the world didn't end last time, and America is stronger than any one man. that is why we have checks and balances.
It's not about one man. It looks like a total sweep. This country thrives on the dysfunction of the House and Senate. If all three go, there is no balance.
And yet we got through the Obama years when he had a super veto proof majority in the Senate. all of a sudden states have more power doesn't look so bad.
Yes and no. We don't yet know what the final count for the House will be, and I truly hope that the Republicans don't take a page from the Democrats and attempt to abolish the filibuster in the Senate. But even if all that happens, SCOTUS did show in Trump's first term that they would not just rubberstamp any actions he did. There will still be the courts to hold him in check even if his own party won't.
And looking back at his first term, his bark was much worse than his bite. Or to put that into simpler terms, he talked a lot in his first term but his policies were not all bad and did a lot of good for the country. Not all but enough.
We have had terrible people elected to the office in the past and we have survived them, I don't think all is lost just because Trump won.
I like having an unbalance between House, Senate and Presidency. They help check each other and inhibit how much the federal government can do. Usually the less is the better.
If the house goes, that is bigger than a super majority.
Obama tried (at least until he got repeatedly rebuffed by the Republican Party which had vowed to make him a one term President) to bring the parties together and sought coalitions. Trump will try no such thing. He is still a traitor and a liar, and we've just handed him the keys to our nation. All of his craziness that he said during the election is about to become real, driving our goodwill in the world to nothing.
So true. Hate and agnorance and batshit craziness won. I never thought I'd see it.
No it's not, unless the Senate kills the filibuster like Harris wanted.
Sigh
Yep, Biden controlled the House and Senate from 2021-2023. He did not have a supermajority.
You don't think he's a liar?
We still do not know what is happening with the House election, so that theory only holds if the House becomes dem.
I agree, honestly we should put the Senate appointment back into the hands of the Governor, the Senate was designed to protect states rights and not a populist position like the peoples house.
Recent updates are showing that the chance of the Democrats taking the House are slipping away.
This to me is worrisome as the House is a majority rules body that sets tax policy and budgets. Trump had proposed a lot of 'no tax' policies during the campaign and IMO that cannot be afforded in today's world. We not only have to get the damn deficit under control, but the current debt is just way too high and really needs to be cut down. I don't see how taxes can be cut if we don't make some major cuts in spending first.
True, but if I remember right, that might not mean as much as it might suggest. If I recall correctly, He had that the first time, but got stonewalled by establishment Republicans nearly as much as by Dems, lack of support for building the wall, for instance.
Trump and the maga cult and the spinless culpable gop
trump is already pulling out newly elected/re-elected house reps to serve in his administration, making the maga majority even slimmer ...
kind of makes you wonder who trump paid to take his civics classes for him when he was a younger POS ...
I am serious. We all know what trmp is. Did we have to have it repeated day after day? Whatever happened to taking the high road? trmp always took the low road with his lies, alternate facts, his bigotry, and his insults.
I'm not too concerned because the country has dealt with the three types of people trump represents. plutocrats in the late 1700's, white supremacists in the mid 1800's, and fascists in the mid 1900's. the US constitution provides all the solutions in dealing with unamerican interests in government and domestic terrorists.
That's your opinion. The majority of the country don't see it the same way as you do. Luckily.
Interesting that the Racist, end of democracy, insurrectionist exaggeration and hyperbole were soundly defeated. Who would have thought that James Carville was right again? Who would have thought policy and peoples financial situation was more important than Trump hysteria? Anyone that looks at it objectively.
My main concern is that Republicans take all three branches and push federal ban on abortion at something ridiculous like 6 weeks or something equally unpopular. If they do they be screwed in midterms. They have the momentum but have proven they can change that.
Damn! Another conservative I agree with today. I think I need more coffee with a shot of Baileys
I won't say the hyperbole and rhetoric was defeated. It's just going to keep increasing.
I honestly don't see that happening. The SCOTUS took the Federal side out of the issue. I've always seen abortion as a medical procedure and should be kept as such under HIPPA protections for privacy.
I semi agree that it shouldn't happen but if there is one thing I see all too often it is the winning party often finds new and exciting ways to shoot themselves in the foot.
If they do they be screwed in midterms.
Medieval man embraced the concept of the wheel of fortune to describe the frequent reversals of living in a time of frequent, sudden catastrophe. Americans tend to believe in a world that can be sunshine all the time. Politics is the embodiment of the wheel of fortune. What goes up will come down, and losses lead to victory.
Some talking head made the point that Trump’s brazen mishandling of the two Georgia Senate seats in 2020 gave Democrats a majority in the Senate. But that in turn caused Biden to ditch his moderate campaign persona of “return to normal” and pivot to trying to be LBJ, which led to passing of disastrous extreme bills that ramped up spending, increased inflationary pressures and alienated moderates, which helped Trump recapture the White House.
Trump will probably overreach. Even if he doesn’t, he’s walking into a shitstorm. The last jobs report was terrible and the government can’t prop up the economy by borrowing and spending trillions of dollars a year for eternity. With ever increasing interest payments, and the need to save social security soon, Trump could be on the hot seat quicker than he realizes.
Regardless, the Republicans will get slaughtered in the house in 2024. Trump voters don’t appear to be high propensity voters who will turn out when he’s not on the ballot and the people who hate him are, so I’d recommend he take care of what he can now, because the second half of his Presidency will probably not be easy.
Yeah, there is that.
Yup, stupidity, ignorance and racism won. Hateful impotent incels won.
The Democrats holding out so long before realizing Biden was a real problem and dropping him, really gave her no chance of winning. I feel that is why so many people played the gender / race thing.
Somebody had mentioned on another article that the nomination should have went to the person Biden beat out in the Primary. Honestly that would have been the better selection. But then we come back to the timing of dropping Biden. I may have worked better for them but, that's mere speculation.
With the short time she had to campaign, she had absolutely no way of separating herself from the travesty that is the Biden administration. She had no real time to develop any kind of policy that the people would support.
Honestly I feel she was in way over her head, even as the VP.
Garbage won.
IMO, if Biden had retired after his term and the dems had a legit primary with a candidate that won it they would have done much better. By Biden not retiring after his term he fucked up the works. Power is hard to release, as we have seen time and again.
Completely agree!
Kavika , this is all about racism. Even if Biden was, whatever, someone of Trump's vast malignant traits, could not be elected without the backwind of racism and misogyny.
People ARE afraid of losing THEIR country, and it is based on race. Trump would have had no political career without race, he exploited it from the jump.
Please dont blame Biden or Harris, this is on the American people.
Why did Harris do better with whites and worse with minorities than Biden if its "all about racism?"
Yeah, nothing against Kav, but this is NOT President Biden's fault nor Kamala's, for Heavens' sake.
I have to laugh. If not for racism Trump wouldnt be a politician today. I know you are smart enough to know that. His entire entrance into politics was based on his belief he could exploit the racism of the people who felt they were losing "their " country. What do you think his racist birtherism was about? He wanted to run for president in 2012 but didnt have a political base. So he created one out of racist accusations about Obama. This is not speculation, it is fact. He went to the front or near front of the GOP polls almost immediately and only fell out after Obama released his long form birth certificate proving Trump was an asshole. Trump ran on white grievance in the very next presidential election . The very next. It was all one thread, and still is.
So, Trump is soooo racist that voters from EVERY demographic supports and voted for him?
JR, I certainly know racism at a personal level much more than you or the vast majority of NT members, yes of course Trump played it to perfection, that is who he is. If, Biden had done what he had originally intended to do and retire after one term, IMO the whole presidential race would have changed. He did many good things in his tenure but it was obvious as hell he was heading down hill at the end and by insisting that he would run again he put Harris and any other dems that would have thrown their hat in the ring at a distinct disadvantage. Harris had only a few month to run vs Trump four years and she was appointed by the party instead of having a primary to select the canadiate, be it Harris or someone else the outcome for the dems would have been an improvement, win or lose.
Trump used all the proven methods, racial tropes etc and that was to be expected that is what the US has fallen back on for generations and Trump played it beautifully. IF, as I stated above the dems had done it differently they could have fought the tropes on an even field and had a much better showing perhaps even winning.
Not all American people are filled with hate, racism, and ignorance. However, fear of a woman sitting at the Oval Office desk most likely was stronger than their intelligence.
Yet, even the GOP voters who voted for him will regret their choice when the sh*tbell rings from the WH, as it will be heard around the world, and their lives, and those of their own family, will be adversely affected by their own fears.
With blacks and Hispanics voting for him at higher numbers than any Republican candidate ever.
Everything is racism for some. It's the proverbial carpenter with the hammer.
No matter how much the data shows otherwise, its racism all the way down.
Clearly, they are all white supremacists too.
For some, the only authentic minority is one who meekly votes for the Democrat when white people tell them to vote for a Democrat.
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There is no appreciable difference between Trumps black support in 2020 and last night,
His big gains were among hispanic males who are culturally attracted to all that macho bromance bullshit.
How voting demographics changed between 2020 and 2024 elections – NBC4 Washington
NBC Nightly News reported Trump gained an average of a 5% gain (20020 - 2024) of Black voters in the battleground states.
2020 2024
How voting demographics changed between 2020 and 2024 elections – NBC4 Washington
Looks like NBC has some contradictory initial reports. This data will get some deep mining as we move on with better analysis.
Stupid people do stupid things, every day
Oh I know that shit! My husband is Hispanic and I swear most of his brothers really don't like women. They treat wives/girlfriends like dirt. They're nice to me, tho. Probably Big Bro would kick their asses if they didn't
That's it exactly. Macho bromance bullshit. You hit that nail right on the head.
The decent real hispanic men saw right through that hate.
We see so much of that macho bromance bullshit right here among 'all our readers'
lol
The folks I worked with at the Bagel & Deli joint not too long ago were all mostly Hispanic folks. The lady I became good friends with is from El Salvador.
I wouldn't say her boyfriend (they've been together for a long time, but they're not married) treats her mean, but with a huge disregard, for her feelings and emotionally, he doesn't wish her a Happy Birthday or buy her gifts. He's a good man, I love him and Lupe, but she talks to me all the time about how she is unhappy with him and if he doesn't pay more attention to her that she will leave him and she said he's made moves in that direction, but it usually falls back to the, like I said, for lack of a better word, disregard.
Now is when the rubber hits the road. Trump has made numerous promises and let see how that works out.
1. Stop the war in Ukraine without fucking over Ukraine
2. Let see how the new and higher tariffs work out for the US as well the isolationists stance.
3. NO TAXES…This should be good.
Those 3 alone should be interesting, the dozens of other ridiculous promises will show up sooner than later.
On 2, don't forget Trump's insane/naive claim that tariffs do not raise consumer prices.
And that tariffs are paid by China or who ever the exporter to the US is….
SOS
He didn't learn much at Wharton, did he?
he learned how to sub-contract out earning his college degree ...
Oh, man! Wish I could have done that!
Not possible
Exactly, Trout.
... at least we'll know who the russian collaborators are when the time comes to eradicate them.