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With tariffs signed, Trump warns of ‘pain’ to come for Americans

  
Via:  Gsquared  •  3 days ago  •  32 comments

By:    Kevin Liptak, CNN

With tariffs signed, Trump warns of ‘pain’ to come for Americans
WILL THERE BE SOME PAIN? YES

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 A day after   signing steep new tariffs   on Mexico, Canada and China, President Donald Trump acknowledged what economists, members of Congress and even some of his own aides — in their previous lives — have been saying all along: Americans   may find themselves paying the costs .

“THIS WILL BE THE GOLDEN AGE OF AMERICA! WILL THERE BE SOME PAIN? YES, MAYBE (AND MAYBE NOT!),” Trump posted, in all capital letters, on his Truth Social platform.

The message, which appeared in the hour before Trump arrived to his West Palm Beach, Florida, golf club for the second day in a row, amounted to an advance warning. Trump is serious about fulfilling his campaign promises to end illegal immigration, curb the flow of deadly drugs and rebalance continental trade. But doing so will be uncomfortable — or worse — for Americans already contending with a high cost of living.

“WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AND IT WILL ALL BE WORTH THE PRICE THAT MUST BE PAID,” Trump wrote. “WE ARE A COUNTRY THAT IS NOW BEING RUN WITH COMMON SENSE — AND THE RESULTS WILL BE SPECTACULAR!!!”

As industries brace for the new tariffs — 25% on goods from Mexico and Canada, and 10% on imports from China — it remains to be seen how long it will take for higher costs to have an impact on American consumers. The tariffs are set to go into effect Tuesday at 12:01 a.m. ET.

In a tacit acknowledgement that upside pressures could affect Americans’ gas and heating costs, Trump levied only a 10% tariff on Canadian oil and gas.

Already, Canada and Mexico have moved to retaliate — reluctantly, in the case of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who said during a somber address from Ottawa late Saturday: “We don’t want to be here.”

If the back-and-forth tariffs remain in place for a prolonged period, the “pain” Trump warned of could become a reality.

But even some Trump allies have privately hoped that after implementing the harsh new duties — and proving to the world he’s willing to act decisively — Trump could eventually ease up, as long as he’s extracted some concessions.

What exactly those concessions are, however, isn’t clear. Before implementing the tariffs, Trump did not meet or speak on the telephone with Trudeau or with Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum to spell out his demands.

Trudeau said Saturday he’d been trying to reach Trump since the inauguration, but his calls have not been returned.

Briefing reporters Saturday evening, White House officials declined to lay out specific benchmarks that Canada or Mexico could reach in tightening their borders or curbing fentanyl flows that would allow the tariffs to be lifted.

And Trump himself told reporters late Friday he wasn’t looking for any concessions at all. In his social media posting Sunday morning, his rationale for the tariffs extended well beyond punishment for the illicit flow of fentanyl.

“The USA has major deficits with Canada, Mexico, and China (and almost all countries!), owes 36 Trillion Dollars, and we’re not going to be the ‘Stupid Country’ any longer,” he wrote. “MAKE YOUR PRODUCT IN THE USA AND THERE ARE NO TARIFFS!”


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Gsquared
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Gsquared    3 days ago
WILL THERE BE SOME PAIN? YES

Trump finally admits what everyone with more than half a brain already knew, his tariffs will cause the American people to suffer.

Will his cult get it or will they beg for more?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Gsquared @1    2 days ago
Will his cult get it or will they beg for more?

His cult will buy his bullshit and continue defending him.

We have stubborn stupidity and arrogance abusing the power of the presidency.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.1  JBB  replied to  TᵢG @1.1    2 days ago

History says the gop in the Senate may be fed up, turn on and betray Trump by, I don't know, the middle of March...

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
1.1.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  JBB @1.1.1    2 days ago

You know, I would think a second-term president would lose support pretty quickly.  After all, his influence will end in less than 4 years, anyway.

But that applies in normal times.  These are not normal times.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.3  JBB  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.1.2    2 days ago

Vance already rearranged the Oval Office furniture in his head...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @1.1.1    2 days ago

One can only hope that reason will return to the GOP.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @1.1.3    2 days ago

Quayle

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
1.1.6  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.4    2 days ago

Don't count on it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Gsquared @1.1.6    2 days ago

I don't.    Wish I could.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
1.1.8  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.7    2 days ago

Over the last year or so several recently former Republicans stated that the only way to bring their party back is to burn it to the ground.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  Gsquared @1.1.8    2 days ago

I have been saying that for more than a year.   When Trump became the most likely nominee, that showed me that the GoP had lost its way.   To have so many people support this scoundrel no matter what he has done shows that the GoP is sick beyond repair.   When that happens, it is Phoenix time.   Like a company restructuring upon bankruptcy, the GoP has to suffer a major blow to convince enough people that things absolutely must change.

Trump's loss would likely have set the GoP back on the road to recovery.   At this point, I am not sure that a crushing midterm defeat will be enough.   Note how Trump supporters continue to defend this irresponsible asshole no matter what he does ... even when his actions are going to hurt them where they will feel it most.

We are living in strange (and sick) times, G2.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
1.1.10  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.9    2 days ago

Yes, we do live in strange and sick times.

As for the 2026 midterms, with the authoritarian moves by Trump and his Republican Party, I'm starting to have serious doubts about the next election being fair and free.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
1.1.11  Jack_TX  replied to  JBB @1.1.1    2 days ago

Quite clever.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @1    2 days ago
"Trump finally admits what everyone with more than half a brain already knew, his tariffs will cause the American people to suffer."

Do Americans have SUCH short memories that they've forgotten that Trump PLAYS DOWN bad things that he allows or causes to happen to Americans?  Does anyone remember this?

Trump admitted he deliberately played down coronavirus threat: Reports

President  Donald Trump , in an interview with journalist Bob Woodward, has admitted to deliberately minimizing the seriousness of the novel  coronavirus  to the public despite understanding its true danger, according to reports on Wednesday.

"I wanted to always play it down," Trump said on March 19, according to  CNN , which obtained an audio recording of the interview, and  The Washington Post . "I still like playing it down, because I don't want to create a panic."

LINK -> Trump admitted he deliberately played down coronavirus threat: Reports - ABC News

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USAFacts

One million  Americans  have  died  of  COVID -19

May 18, 2022 · More than 1 million people, or 1 in every 331 Americans, have died of COVID-19, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

LINK -> https://usafacts.org/articles/million-covid-deaths..." > ...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2  Kavika     3 days ago

IMO, a lot of people in Mexico, Canada and the US are going to get hurt, sadly I don’t see the tariffs solving any of the so called problem long term. Other countries have long memories when they are forced into positions that they don’t feel is honest. As always the pendulum swings both ways.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @2    2 days ago

IMO the nations that Trump has imposed tariffs on should simply redirect their trading to each other.  China is a much bigger market than the USA, and most likely a less expensive supplier of much that America can provide.  Who needs oranges from California and Florida when China has tons of many kinds of oranges, and I'm sure that there are nations other than the USA that could use Canada's oil and wood.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
3  seeder  Gsquared    3 days ago
Trump himself told reporters late Friday he wasn’t looking for any concessions at all.  “MAKE YOUR PRODUCT IN THE USA  AND THERE ARE NO TARIFFS!”

Trump is threatening to impose tariffs on any products not made in the U.S., except for Trump brand products, of course, which are all made in China, and undoubtedly products imported by his friends like Musk. In other words, he is starting an international trade war with the U.S. against everyone else.  That should work out well.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @3    2 days ago

I'm looking forward to see if the House and Senate Republicans are going to continue kowtowing to Trump's insanity when it approaches the mid-terms.  However, I misjudged what the voters would do last November, so who knows?  Those who voted for him might actually by then discover that shooting oneself in the foot can be painful.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
3.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1    yesterday
I'm looking forward to see if the House and Senate Republicans are going to continue kowtowing to Trump's insanity when it approaches the mid-terms.

To do anything but continue kowtowing would require a backbone and we know they gave that up decades ago.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
4  Tacos!    2 days ago

Yes. Pain for non-billionaires. So, he doesn’t give a fuck.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
4.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Tacos! @4    2 days ago

In trade wars, as in physical ones, the rich are rarely at risk.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
4.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  sandy-2021492 @4.1    2 days ago
"In trade wars, as in physical ones, the rich are rarely at risk."

An exception might be an Oligarch who can't get his yacht to a safe harbour in time.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
4.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.1.1    2 days ago
An exception might be an Oligarch who can't get his yacht to a safe harbour in time.

Of course he could just leave the yacht and take a helicopter to another of his yachts in another harbor!

(And if some government seizes the first yacht it won't matter much-- a true Oligarch has several yachts...in various places.)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
4.1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @4.1.2    2 days ago

Of course.  Why just have one yacht when you can afford two?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
4.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tacos! @4    2 days ago
 "...he doesn’t give a fuck."

Yep, that's so.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
5  Krishna    2 days ago

Fentanyl does come into the U.S, from Mexico--but does any significant amount come into the U,S, from Canada? (i would imagine that if any crosses that border it is going the other way-- from the U.S. to Canada. ???

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @5    2 days ago

Yep, the drugs can join the guns going north.

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
5.2  Snuffy  replied to  Krishna @5    2 days ago

To be fair, cartels and drug smugglers are not staffed by entirely stupid people. When one route gets harder to use they will look for easier options. There is some smuggling of fentanyl from Canada into the US. There is a chart (map) in the link that shows the fentanyl trafficking. 

The flow of fentanyl into the United States in 2019 is more diverse compared to the start of the fentanyl 
crisis in 2014, with new source countries and new transit countries emerging as significant trafficking 
nodes. This is exacerbating the already multi-faceted fentanyl crisis by introducing additional source 
countries into the global supply chain of fentanyl, fentanyl-related substances, and fentanyl precursors. 
Further, this complicates law enforcement operations and policy efforts to stem the flow of fentanyl into the 
United States. While Mexico and China are the primary source countries for fentanyl and fentanyl-related 
substances trafficked directly into the United States, India is emerging as a source for finished fentanyl 
powder and fentanyl precursor chemicals.
DEA_GOV_DIR-008-20 Fentanyl Flow in the United States_0.pdf

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
6  Hal A. Lujah    2 days ago

In Trumpspeak lowering prices on day one also means blatantly and openly raising prices across the board in a single act of cowardly aggression.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
7  Trout Giggles    2 days ago

Is it time to say I told you so?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8  Vic Eldred    2 days ago

Babble means to rattle on in a nonsensical way.

 
 
 
freepress
Freshman Silent
9  freepress    yesterday

Trump holds a grudge and is very vindictive looking for retribution and his voters just don't get the fact he is holding a grudge against them first and foremost.

The way Trump had to beg for those 11 thousand votes because he knew he lost hoping to bully his way into a second term simply because his voters never gave him an indisputable landslide is stuck in his craw. 

Pulling stunts that will hurt red states the most is the icing on his cake. He will never forgive or forget.

And sticking Musk in to take over Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is just more pain to inflict on red state voters along with everyone else.

As if the folks at Trump rallies are gonna buy in to Trump and Musk's crypto scam. They already are going after banks ready to deregulate to the point of cancelling FDIC insurance on your money in any bank.

" Daddy's home" and guess who is in deep trouble. Trump never expected Dems to vote for him but his base that never gave him landslides, well enjoy his retribution.

 
 

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