Over Veterans' Protests, Trump Vetoes Measure to Block Student Loan Rules - The New York Times

  
Via:  Ender  •  one month ago  •  25 comments

By:   Erica L. Green

Over Veterans' Protests, Trump Vetoes Measure to Block Student Loan Rules - The New York Times
President Trump sided with Education Secretary Betsy DeVos over veterans' groups, vetoing a measure that would have blocked new regulations that tighten access to student loan forgiveness.

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WASHINGTON — President Trump vetoed a bipartisan resolution on Friday to overturn new regulations that significantly tighten access to federal student loan forgiveness, siding with Education Secretary Betsy DeVos over veterans' organizations that say her rules will harm veterans bilked by unscrupulous for-profit colleges.

The veto will allow stringent rules for students seeking loan forgiveness to take effect on July 1. The rules toughen standards established under the Obama administration for student borrowers seeking to prove their colleges defrauded them and to have their federal loans erased. Even if some borrowers can show they were victims of unscrupulous universities, they could be denied relief unless they can prove their earnings have been adversely affected.

The resolution "sought to reimpose an Obama-era regulation that defined educational fraud so broadly that it threatened to paralyze the nation's system of higher education," Mr. Trump said in his veto statement. "The Department of Education's rule strikes a better balance, protecting students' rights to recover from schools that defraud them while foreclosing frivolous lawsuits." It was the president's eighth veto.

The resolution put Mr. Trump in a difficult political position. The veto saves Ms. DeVos from an embarrassing rebuke by her boss, but it places the president at odds with dozens of veterans' groups that helped persuade 10 Republican senators to vote to overturn a major domestic policy of the Trump administration. Veterans groups said the rule failed to protect military service members who have long been the targets of predatory tactics by colleges because of their lucrative G.I. benefits.

"President Trump's veto of my bipartisan bill to help our veterans was a victory for Education Secretary DeVos and the fraud merchants at the for-profit colleges," said Senator Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, who sponsored the resolution in the Senate. "My question to the president: In four days, did you forget those flag-waving Memorial Day speeches as you vetoed a bill the veterans were begging for?"

Several groups, led by Veterans Education Success, began running advertisements on Fox News programs urging Mr. Trump to sign the resolution, which Speaker Nancy Pelosi sent to the White House last week.

In a statement, Ms. Pelosi called the rule "an act of staggering cruelty."

She said the House would soon vote to overturn the veto, but rounding up two-thirds of the House and Senate would be almost impossible.

"The House and Senate, on a bipartisan basis, firmly stood with our students and veterans to reject the administration's cruel and dangerous decision," Ms. Pelosi said. "It is sad that the president rejected the will of the Congress and the country with his veto."

The news of the veto left groups despondent.

Only hours beforehand, the American Legion, a nonpartisan group that represents two million members, pleaded with the president to sign the resolution, saying that Ms. DeVos's rule would make it "nearly impossible" for cheated veterans to use it.

Ms. DeVos's changes raised the bar for borrower relief claims, requiring applicants to individually prove that a school knowingly misled them and, even if students were bilked, that they were financially harmed by the deception. They also set a three-year deadline on claims.

"Veterans have been aggressively targeted due to their service to our country," the legion's national commander, James W. Oxford, wrote in a statement on Friday. "Student veterans are a tempting target for certain online and for-profit schools to mislead with deceptive promises, while offering degrees and certificates of little-to-no value."

Representative Susie Lee, Democrat of Nevada, who sponsored the resolution in the House, said that "the fight for our students and veterans is far from over."

"It's clear the 2019 rule will weaken both protections for students and oversight of shady schools, while forcing taxpayers to foot the bill for the fraudulent actions of a few bad actors," she said.

The little-known loan forgiveness rule, called "borrower defense to repayment" was the main vehicle the Obama administration used to grant debt relief to tens of thousands of students affected by the collapse of two large for-profit college chains, Corinthian Colleges and ITT Tech, in 2015 and 2016.

But Ms. DeVos said the Obama administration failed to scrutinize claims in a way that was fair to students, colleges and taxpayers, and took measures to rein in what she called a process that amounted to "free money." She has also said the Obama administration "weaponized" the rule to target for-profit schools.

The Education Department's inspector general also found that the Obama administration had a flimsy infrastructure for processing claims, though its review did not find any errors in granting debt relief.

Ms. DeVos has faced fierce criticism and lawsuits over how she had tried to overhaul the claims process, and the department amassed a backlog of applications while she wrote the new rule, which was finished in September.

The department said the new rule would save taxpayers about $11 billion over the next decade.

"This administration is committed to protecting all student from fraud and holding all schools accountable when they fail their students," said Angela L. Morabito, a spokeswoman for the department. "This administration's rule does just that, despite false claims from many corners. The secretary is thankful to the president for his leadership on this issue."

Emily Cochrane contributed reporting.


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Ender
1  seeder  Ender    one month ago

Seems like this is giving fraudulent schools priority over people that were bilked.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ender @1    one month ago

If Devos is involved, that is a given.

 
 
 
Ender
1.1.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1    one month ago

The only thing she has done for education in her entire tenure is push an agenda.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ender @1.1.1    one month ago

If lining her own pockets were a major she would be honor grad.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2  It Is ME    one month ago

"Student veterans are a tempting target for certain online and for-profit schools to mislead with deceptive promises, while offering degrees and certificates of little-to-no value."

"Reading the fine Print", is Fundamental, as it's always been !

 
 
 
Ender
2.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  It Is ME @2    one month ago

Yes reading is fundamental. People cannot have any recourse unless they can prove they were financially hurt.

So basically, if they can still manage to pay their bills, tough shit.

Fraudulent is fraudulent. It should not be tethered to how much money the one deceived has.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Ender @2.1    one month ago
People cannot have any recourse unless they can prove they were financially hurt.

Not being able to get a job in ones "Chosen Field of Education", isn't Fraud ! Seen those "Lawsuits" Pop Up.

Besides..... If You choose to go the "Internet" route for your education, it's all on YOU. 

Of Course, if it's on the "Internet", it's True ! jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ender
2.1.2  seeder  Ender  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.1    one month ago

You are basically blaming the victim. Because they used a fraudulent business it is their fault.

They should have no recourse because they should have known better...

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  Ender @2.1    one month ago

Always someone else's fault isn't it? No personal responsibility ever? 

Before attending any college, university, trade school, online course, etc it is up to the individual to do the research to make sure it is worth it. 

The quickest way to get rid of fraudulent schools is for people to do their own research before agreeing to attend.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.4  It Is ME  replied to  Ender @2.1.2    one month ago
You are basically blaming the victim.

Yep !

There are simple ways to find out what you're getting into, before you "Jump in" !

Lazy doesn't give one "Card Blanche" to be able to screw up and then look to the "Law" to "make it right" for their screwup.

 
 
 
Ender
2.1.5  seeder  Ender  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.3    one month ago

So screw the people it is all their fault.

No problem that it is taxpayer money being used and wasted.

 
 
 
Ender
2.1.6  seeder  Ender  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.4    one month ago

So all these veterans that get screwed over, they are lazy and stupid...

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
2.1.7  igknorantzrulz  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.4    one month ago

TRUMP U, Lightfoot sty.le !

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.8  It Is ME  replied to  Ender @2.1.6    one month ago
So all these veterans that get screwed over, they are lazy and stupid...

If they fell for a scam, and then want compensation for their own screwup, YEP !

I don't care who it is that does it. You make the mess, You clean up your mess ! 

Didn't you teach your kids that ?

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.9  It Is ME  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.7    one month ago
TRUMP U, Lightfoot sty.le !

The "Book" is complicated for some.

Why do you insist on staying a ….. Some ?

 
 
 
Ender
2.1.10  seeder  Ender  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.8    one month ago

And shit happens. No matter how careful some can be fraud happens.

Acting like there should be no available recourse is not the way to go.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
2.1.11  sandy-2021492  replied to  Ender @2.1.10    one month ago

And some will always blame the scammed, and refuse to hold the scammer accountable.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.12  It Is ME  replied to  Ender @2.1.10    one month ago
Acting like there should be no available recourse is not the way to go.

There should be no recourse for "It's my own fault" !

I think they call that …… "Frivolous Lawsuits" !

It's like if I took you fishing for a "Fee". You didn't catch anything, so you sued me because of it, claiming "Fish were Promised" which I really never did promise. I just told you I'd take you to places that gave you a "chance" to catch fish.

 
 
 
Ender
2.1.13  seeder  Ender  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.12    one month ago

It is called fake universities defrauding the public.

They should be investigated and shut down.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.14  It Is ME  replied to  Ender @2.1.13    one month ago
It is called fake universities defrauding the public.

But ...… The "Internet" never lies. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3  sandy-2021492    one month ago

Wait, I thought he loved the military.  Shouldn't that extend to veterans?

Oh, wait, some of those loans probably went to students at Trump University.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
3.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3    one month ago

yea, a guy who ran one of these scams should decide, WTF asz usual from defenders of for fux sake, give US and our Vets a break !

 
 
 
Ender
3.1.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.1    one month ago

Sometimes I think people will defend asinine decisions just because of donald.

Must defend...at all cost...

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
3.1.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Ender @3.1.1    one month ago

Is It ME, or just, people too stupid to see...

 
 
 
Kavika
3.2  Kavika   replied to  sandy-2021492 @3    one month ago
Oh, wait, some of those loans probably went to students at Trump University.

BINGO

 
 
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