Why Is the Left Suddenly Worried About the End of Democracy?

They are fearful and angry not because democracy doesn't work, but because it does despite their own media and political efforts to warp it.

When a party is hijacked by radicals and uses almost any means necessary to gain and use power for agendas that few Americans support, then average voters express their disapproval.

That reality apparently terrifies an elite. It then claims any system that allows the people to vote against the Left is not people power at all.

Don't you know?  That's the new narrative.

And guess who is out there fighting for our democracy?  It's our old friend from the Russia hoax & the 2020 election, Marc Elias.  Here is what he's been up to:



And in Texas:

Federal judge rejects Texas AG Paxton's (R) motion to dismiss a lawsuit challenging the state's "wet-signature" law that requires Texans who register to vote online to also submit a hand-signed application. The lawsuit will move forward in court.

I’m sure Paxton will prevail upon appeal. 

Liberals are attempting to rewrite the meaning of democracy.  Liberals rewrite history, science, the dictionary, and the Constitution to fit whatever narrative keeps them in power.  One party, whose name need not be mentioned, has done that for 200 years.

“You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”  That quote is attributed to the first Republican President, Abraham Lincoln.  And liberals are trying to rewrite that history, too.

So very well said.  You perfectly describe the left.  

Why Is The Left Suddenly Worried About The End Of Democracy?

Because Trump backed white conservative Christian fascism will inevitably fill the void if Democracy falls.

They are not worried that the FBI, Justice Department, CIA, Hillary Clinton, and members of the Obama administration systematically sought to use U.S. government agencies to sabotage a presidential campaign, transition, and presidency, via the use of a foreign national and ex-spy Christopher Steele and his coterie of discredited Russian sources.

So much bullshit all in one moronic run on sentence that no one with more than half a brain would believe.

"The nearly 1,000-page report, the fifth and final one from the Republican-led Senate intelligence committee on the Russia investigation, details how Russia launched an aggressive effort to interfere in the election on Trump’s behalf. It says the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers ."

" The findings , including unflinching characterizations of furtive interactions between Trump associates and Russian operatives, echo to a large degree those of special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation and appear to repudiate the Republican president’s claims that the FBI had no basis to investigate whether his campaign was conspiring with Russia ."

“Taken as a whole, Manafort’s high-level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik, represented a grave counterintelligence threat, ” the report says.

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If you believe the right wing extremist bullshit coming out of 'Townhall's' runny dirty balloon knot [ deleted ]

I’ll accept the analysis of Victor Davis Hansen over that of almost anyone else.  He’s exactly right here in everything he wrote.  

Because Trump backed white conservative Christian fascism will inevitably fill the void if Democracy falls.

What did Donald Trump impose on the people of the United States?  What did Donald Trump force the people of the United States to do?

Liberals claim that freedom of choice is a protected right.  So, isn't taking away freedom of choice violating the protected rights of the people of the United States?  Are liberals trying to use democracy to violate the protected right of freedom of choice?

How did Donald Trump take away freedom of choice?  How has Republicans taken away freedom of choice?

What did Donald Trump force the people of the United States to do?

Well he did make pearl clutchers out of the majority of Democrats and liberals...........

Well he did make pearl clutchers out of the majority of Democrats and liberals..........

And liberals have increased the volume of their rosary prayers of exclusion.  Liberals' liturgy of dividing diversity into exclusive groups isn't very inclusive.  But, then, liberals have rewritten the meaning of inclusion just as they rewrite everything else.

European liberals have never united Europe.  Liberals are deluding themselves into believing that European liberalism won't divide the United States.  United we are Americans, divided we are European liberals.

Still repeating the same bullshit over and over and expecting it to stick? Why haven't Trump or anyone in his campaign been charged with a criminal act for their alleged connections with Russia? Because they committed no crimes! Bottom line end of damn story. Mueller and the Democrats couldn't bring one damn charge against them; even after stacking the damn deck by using Obama and Hillary sycophants to do the investigation. Using information illegally gathered from FISA warrants using the Steele Dossier as their main source. It went from "collusion" to "obstruction" so damn fast it wasn't even funny. 

Also, Putin was playing both damn sides. Which the left and Democrats are too damn ignorant to admit.

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The charges, though, made clear that Project Lakhta operatives were equal opportunity political opportunists—weighing in on both sides of political divisions and even, earlier this year, tweeting about Mueller’s indictment of their 13 IRA colleagues, writing, in part, “Still think this Russia thing is a hoax and a witch hunt? Because a lot of witches just got indicted.”

In other tweets, the alleged Project Lahkta accounts actually urged people to protect Mueller; on December 16, 2017, the indictment says, a fake Twitter account called @KaniJJackson posted, “If Trump fires Robert Mueller, we have to take to the streets in protest. Our democracy is at stake.” A day later, another account egged Mueller on, saying, “Keep the implosion coming Mueller.”

In the wake of the Florida mass shooting at Parkland High School, one of the Russian accounts even urged voters to turn against the GOP: “Vote them out in 2018!” A month later, that same account called for Donald Trump to win a Nobel Peace Prize for his North Korea outreach.

Why haven't Trump or anyone in his campaign been charged with a criminal act for their alleged connections with Russia? Because they committed no crimes! Bottom line end of damn story.

Because the only thing that wasn't proven was criminal conspiracy. However, the Republican Senate investigation found that there WAS plenty of basis for the FBI to investigate whether the Trump campaign was conspiring with Russia. That is the point, it wasn't a hoax, it wasn't all a Democrat fabricated investigation there was " a grave counterintelligence threat" according to a Republican investigation so I'm sure they did not want to make such conclusions but the evidence presented was overwhelming.

Also, Putin was playing both damn sides.

He "played" both sides but admitted Trump was the only candidate he was actually supporting.

When the Reuters reporter Jeff Mason asked, “President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that? ”

Putin's reply? “ Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.–Russia relationship back to normal.”

Putin would like to thank the Democrats and left for doing a far better job than he could ever hope for.

Indeed, Putin got pretty much every thing he wanted with Trump winning the 2016 election, he could not have been happier and yes, the Democrats missteps and arrogance at the time helped Putin achieve that goal.

" In early September, after Russian opposition leader and anti-corruption activist Alexei Navalny was poisoned, Western leaders like Boris Johnson and Angela Merkel issued sharp condemnations and demanded explanations from Russia’s government. President Trump told reporters he hadn’t yet made up his mind who was responsible. “ So, I don’t know exactly what happened . I think that it is tragic. It is terrible. It should not happen. We have not had any proof yet, but we will take a look.”

We all know what fucking happened but Trump once again did his best to please Putin.

"In the wake of news of Russia’s massive cyber-intrusion into a swath of private and public networks, including, alarmingly, agencies controlling the  nuclear  stockpile, the main lacuna of the story, as it has been for four years, is the president’s subservient relationship with Russia." " Trump, though, said  nothing   for days. He has mentioned Russia a few times since news broke of its massive operation, but only in the context of complaining about “the Russia hoax.”

When he did finally comment on Russia's egregious cyber-attack he tweeted:

The Cyber Hack is far greater in the Fake News Media than in actuality. I have been fully briefed and everything is well under control. Russia, Russia, Russia is the priority chant when anything happens because Lamestream is, for mostly financial reasons, petrified of discussing the possibility that it may be China (it may!).

When Russia stole Democratic emails in 2016, Trump also insisted it might be China.

Trump then suggested after the massive illegal hack by the Russians that the US and Russia form a joint cybersecurity unit.

"Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded."

What the fuck? Who in their right mind would suggest teaming up with the country that just fucked you over?

" U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump’s face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years. Such a gap would be unusual in any presidency, let alone one that Russia sought to install through what U.S. intelligence agencies have described as an unprecedented campaign of election interference ."

During the campaign, Trump repeatedly praised Putin and downplayed objections to Russia’s seizure of Crimea. 

During a February 2017 interview with Bill O’Reilly, Trump  dismissed  concerns about Putin killing dissidents and journalists.

"The strange bromance between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin has been a staple of the Washington commentariat ever since Trump entered the presidential race and lambasted almost everyone except the Russian President. Both as a candidate and then as president, Trump has refused to say anything negative about Putin and has repeatedly found ways to deflect or deny criticism of Russia’s alleged misdeeds, including the murdering of opponents; sending political prisoners to Siberia; suppressing minority rights; crushing opposition; annexing foreign territory; supporting Syria’s murderous regime, shooting down civilian airliners and sabotage of the 2016 U.S. presidential election ."

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I can't imagine anyone with more than half a brain concluding that Trump has actually been tough on Putin just because of a few sanctions that the US Senate placed on Russia. And Biden later waving those sanctions for the Swiss-based company Nord Stream 2 does not make him friends of Putin but proving we are a friend of Germany which has guaranteed that the pipeline will not be used as a weapon against Ukraine.

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Tick, tick, tick Democrats midterms are coming.

Yes they are, and as always they will likely swing back towards Republicans until Republicans fuck shit up so much they swing back towards Democrat's as has been happening for the last half century. People always blame whoever is in power for all their problems whether they have any control over them or not, it's human nature. 2021 has been a pretty shitty year which was obviously due to a global pandemic with numerous new variants, new surges in cases and deaths, fights between rational sane patriotic Americans who have been wearing their masks and getting vaccinated and half witted dumb shits who have been screaming at School boards and city councils about their supposed freedom to get everyone else sick or that the virus or vaccine is a hoax or the vaccine shouldn't be mandated like the dozen other vaccines that have been mandated by States for over a century.

It will indeed be a sad day for America when Republicans regain power which I'm sure will eventually happen even if it doesn't happen in the mid-terms because they won't have any answers to every problem either and we'll just continue screaming and yelling at each other across the ideological divide between bitter right wing conservatives and hopeful left wing liberals and progressives who are trying to move us forward to a more perfect union while conservatives dig in their heels and shout "Over my dead body!".

Because the only thing that wasn't proven was criminal conspiracy.

If you can't prove something it means it didn't happen. Period. End of story. It should have stopped the BS right there; but instead it just amplified it from Democrats and the left that still can't except Hillary lost in 2016.

However, the Republican Senate investigation found that there WAS plenty of basis for the FBI to investigate whether the Trump campaign was conspiring with Russia. That is the point, it wasn't a hoax, it wasn't all a Democrat fabricated investigation there was " a grave counterintelligence threat" according to a Republican investigation so I'm sure they did not want to make such conclusions but the evidence presented was overwhelming.

More BS. Keep spinning. Even the left's savior Barack Obama said that not a single vote was changed by the Russians. The Democrats were fucking idiots to allow their systems to be hacked; and then not only cover it from from the FBI- but deny help from them in helping to protect their systems from future attacks. The Republicans systems were also hacked- older more state and local level systems. Republicans didn't cover it up; and took the offered help from the FBI.

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The Democratic National Committee “rebuffed” a request from the FBI to examine its computer services after it was allegedly hacked by Russia during the 2016 election, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Thursday.

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated,” a senior law enforcement official told CNN. “This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”

This statement is in response to reports that the FBI never asked the DNC for access to the hacked systems.

The DNC told Buzzfeed News that they did not receive a request from the FBI to access their computer servers.

“The DNC had several meetings with representatives of the FBI’s Cyber Division and its Washington Field Office, the Department of Justice’s National Security Division, and US Attorney’s Offices, and it responded to a variety of requests for cooperation, but the FBI never requested access to the DNC’s computer servers,” Eric Walker, the DNC’s deputy communications director, told BuzzFeed News .

The FBI instead relied on the assessment from a third-party security company called CrowdStrIke.

The DNC did not immediately respond to a request for comment by CNN. But President-elect Donald Trump cited Thursday’s news to hit Democrats, tweeting, “So how and why are they so sure about hacking if they never even requested an examination of the computer servers? What is going on?”

Congress held hearings on the alleged Russia hacking on Thursday, where officials agreed on the conclusion that Russia is a major threat to the United States and was behind hacking meant to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.

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Top intelligence officials indicated on Tuesday that the GOP was also a Russian hacking target but that none of the information obtained was leaked.

FBI director James Comey told a Senate panel that there was “penetration on the Republican side of the aisle and old Republican National Committee domains” no longer in use. Republicans have previously denied their organizations were hacked.

The testimony came in a Senate intelligence committee hearing that examined Russia’s intrusions in the 2016 election campaign and its intentions, with America’s top intelligence officials testifying just days after they released an unclassified report blaming Moscow for the hacks.

Comey later added that “there was evidence of hacking directed at state-level organizations, state-level campaigns, and the RNC, but old domains of the RNC, meaning old emails they weren’t using. None of that was released.”

Comey said there was no sign “that the Trump campaign or the current RNC was successfully hacked.”

Asked by Sen. Mark Warner, a Virginia Democrat, whether the hacker had the ability to selectively leak that old information, Comey indicated that they did.

Comey also said that the Russians “got far deeper and wider into the (Democratic National Committee) than the RNC,” adding that “similar techniques were used in both cases.”

Comey said the FBI would have preferred to “get access to the original device or server” that was the target of hacking at the DNC. CNN previously reported that the Democratic National Committee “rebuffed” a request from the FBI to examine its computer services after it was allegedly hacked by Russia during the 2016 election. 

The FBI instead relied on the assessment of a third-party security company called CrowdStrIke. Comey told senators that the “highly respected private company eventually got access and shared” the evidence with th

We all found out what the DNC was hiding- that they sabotaged Bernie Sanders on purpose and handed Hillary the nomination. 

Indeed, Putin got pretty much every thing he wanted with Trump winning the 2016 election, he could not have been happier and yes, the Democrats missteps and arrogance at the time helped Putin achieve that goal.

Trump gave Putin nothing. The Democrats went off the deep end with rampant TDS and spent five and half years and counting trying to get rid of Trump. They broke laws, they ignored Congressional norms and standards, and they purposefully leaked anything that made Trump look bad- even if they had to make it up. So yes Putin was exceedingly happy with the way things turned out. Democrats gave him everything he wanted and then some.

Still more Trump words about Russia. Keep the BS rolling.

Words. Wow, just wow. How about actions? What actions did the Trump administration take on Russia? How many times must this be rehashed before it sinks in? 

• Increased sanctions on Russia
• Put US troops in Syria. Sure that pissed Putin off. Not an action I agree with; but if Trump wanted to please Putin it would be the last thing he would have done. Which are still there.
• Killed more than 200 Russian soldiers in Syria
• Authorized the sale of military weapons and aid to Ukraine. Unlike Obama, who backed the coup of a duly elected pro Russian Ukrainian government; and then only gave Ukraine non lethal aid. I am sure those blankets were really effective stopping bullets.
• Sanctions on the Nordstream2 Pipeline that stopped it. (which of course Biden lifted getting nothing in return. Who is Putin's puppet again? Why not ask the former Soviet block states that are being cut out of oil revenues heading to Europe. They are not fans of Biden.) 
• Expelled diplomats
• Forced NATO allies to honor their commitments by increasing defense spending

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Yes they are, and as always they will likely swing back towards Republicans until Republicans fuck shit up so much they swing back towards Democrat's as has been happening for the last half century. People always blame whoever is in power for all their problems whether they have any control over them or not, it's human nature. 2021 has been a pretty shitty year which was obviously due to a global pandemic with numerous new variants, new surges in cases and deaths, fights between rational sane patriotic Americans who have been wearing their masks and getting vaccinated and half witted dumb shits who have been screaming at School boards and city councils about their supposed freedom to get everyone else sick or that the virus or vaccine is a hoax or the vaccine shouldn't be mandated like the dozen other vaccines that have been mandated by States for over a century. It will indeed be a sad day for America when Republicans regain power which I'm sure will eventually happen even if it doesn't happen in the mid-terms because they won't have any answers to every problem either and we'll just continue screaming and yelling at each other across the ideological divide between bitter right wing conservatives and hopeful left wing liberals and progressives who are trying to move us forward to a more perfect union while conservatives dig in their heels and shout "Over my dead body!".

You know why people blame the Democrats- they control the House, Senate, and White House. They are in complete charge and there is nothing Republicans can do about it. Damn straight they are to blame for every single mess they created. Start with the wide open border with 200,000 plus illegals streaming across it each month- and those are just the ones they catch. Biden doesn't force them to get vaccinated. They aren't tested for Covid unless they show symptoms. They are kept in tightly confined detention centers where Covid spreads. They are released all over the US to spread the disease. For US citizens it is vaccine mandates and restrictions; for anyone visiting this country legally they have to be fully vaccinated and have a negative Covid test 3 days before they travel here; but Biden is allowing the single largest super spreader event in the world to go unabated. So you can take your mandates and masks and cram them where the sun won't shine and the rain won't go. Until the flow of illegal immigrants is stopped Covid and all of it's variants aren't going anywhere. 

In case you didn't notice the amount of breakthrough cases is increasing. So why don't you bitch about the President and every last damn Democrat politician that violates their own rules on Covid. Including the Bidens. Why should anyone wear a mask when dumb fuck Democrats openly defy the rules?

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It is a sad day right now for America with the Democrats in charge. Higher fuel prices. Rampant inflation. Food and goods shortages. Higher crime rates. A higher infection rate with more people dead from Covid. China and Russia emboldened to the point that both Taiwan and Ukraine set to be taken before Biden's term is up. US citizens, Green Card Holders, and Special VISA Holders abandoned in Afghanistan- and Biden doing jack shit of nothing the get them out because he has "turned the page." He won't even get his administration out of the way of private individuals and charities that are doing his damn job getting them home. 

Democrats only want one thing- one party rule. They are trying to do away with state elections laws and make everything run by the federal government. They are trying to get rid of the electoral college. They want the US to turn into China, with them in charge. Sorry, no way in hell will that be stood for. Democrats deserve the mid term beating they have coming to them. I doubt they will learn anything from it.

Way to go!  You totally dismantled the left and the supposed Trump Russia collusion big le.  Thanks for setting the record straight on the matter.  

Ya know, sometimes you post some really thought provoking stuff and then you post a turd like this.

Are you feeling okay today or just feeling like a fight?

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For the left the end of their current reign of terror is nigh!  

Well said.

There was no insurrection or anything remotely like one on Jan. 6.  

Comment 3.6 is part of the Big Lie reactionary extremist disinformation assault on the truth.

There was no insurrection, none was planned, none organized.  None happened.  Most of what did happen was instigated by federal agents who manufactured the breach for democrat purposes.  

Most of what did happen [ during the insurrection ] was instigated by federal agents who manufactured the breach for democrat purposes.  

What utter nonsense.   People make up the craziest shit because there are always those who will believe it and pass it on.

Tell that to the guy that sentenced to 63 months in prison today. Maybe that was for an unpaid parking ticket at the capital. /s

Comment 3.6.2 is neo-fascist propaganda.  The Big Lie just got even bigger.   

If not how do you explain all the guilty pleas?

Tucker Carlson’s three part documentary on the issue is exactly right.  

Neither I nor any other conservatives are going to defend those who engaged in assaulting police or destroying property/vandalism.  Those who engaged in such acts around or in the capitol building should be just as severely punished as those who engaged in similar assaults, property damage, vandalism in countless other protests turned riots in cities across the country in the months before and since then.  

The fact that you think so is a badge of honor to me because I know the truth of which I speak.  It is our domestic opposition that is all that you describe 

No one is pleading guilty to anything like insurrection or plotting a coup or any other such lie.  It was a disorganized group incited to act beyond what they otherwise would have done by under cover federal provocateurs 

The big lie is that there was ever a planned insurrection on Jan 6.  

They need to make a Schiff slam man version- it will sell out. Who wouldn't want to punch out the bug eyed bobble head. With each punch it would repeat his most un-American statements.

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“CBS News report that a Trump confidant said that GOP senators were warned ‘… vote against the president and your head will be on a pike,'” Schiff argued in front of the Senate. “The President’s misconduct cannot be decided at the ballot box, for we cannot be assured that the vote will be fairly won,” Schiff said earlier this week. This was an entirely new reason for wanting to impeach him — because you cannot trust U.S. elections,” Schiff warned this week.

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Schiff had pointed to a reconstituted transcript of the conversation released by the White House, but paraphrased some points and offered an exaggerated version of the discussion, including saying that Trump directed Zelensky to “make up dirt on my political opponent” a full “seven times.”

Sorry, didn't mean to derail- but seeing any picture of Schiff makes me want to hit something.

Schiff needs to be stripped of all committee assignments in Jan 2023

Sorry, didn't mean to derail- but seeing any picture of Schiff makes me want to hit something.

No problem.  He’s a complete and total Schiff head.  Probably Schiff faced drunk on power too

A merger between the neo-fascist Proud Boys and the QLunatics.  America's enemies.

America’s single biggest domestic enemies are its bi coastal secular progressive Urban elites and the crony capitalist big tech and big banksters they control along with the msm.  

America's biggest domestic enemies are the reactionary extremists as has been confirmed by the DHS and the FBI.  The false claim set forth in Comment 5.1 is neo-fascist propaganda.

No one believes the DHS or FBI as presently led.  They are now tools of the deep state.  The false claims presented by post 5.1.1 are communist propaganda.  

Comment 5.1.2 is idiotic and supportive of the propaganda  and goals America's enemies.

I am a successful practitioner of good old American capitalism and nothing I said can be even remotely construed as "communist propaganda".  That contention is not only ignorant and idiotic, it is a lie.  On the other hand, you are a self-declared enemy of the state who regularly uses this forum to promulgate reactionary extremist and neo-fascist propaganda.  Comment 5.1.2 is yet another example.  Putinite reactionaries blather about "the deep state".  America's enemies denigrate our institutions such as the DHS and the FBI.  You prove my point with almost every seed and comment you post.

and the crony capitalist big tech and big banksters they control along with the msm.  

AKA the people who give your idiot group money. Huh, the are double dealing, that must mean something...

Wrong!  My side is the multiracial working and middle class coalition with independent small businesses and those who have some kind of theistic belief.  That is our base and our support system.  

It is the Brandon regime that is the fascist left organization in America today.  They are the enemy of liberty, rights, freedom, and we the people.  We are the Patriots standing up to and resisting the dictates of the regime so many here choose to bow down before and support.  

Comment 5.1.6 is more of the bullshit propaganda constantly being spewed by Donald Shit-for-Brains Trump cultists.

We are proud to be the domestic opposition to the sedition favoring secular progressive elites.  We the people have less than zero respect for the bi coastal urban left types.  

We the people, we real Americans, don't declare ourselves to be enemies of the state.  We the people, we real Americans, don't try to whitewash and cover up the Trumpist-Fascist insurrection and attempt to overthrow democracy.  We the people, we real Americans, have nothing but contempt for Trumpist-Fascists, QLunatics and all of the other worthless, seditious unAmerican/anti American reactionary extremist scum.

The bicoastal urban secular progressive left elites  are neither we the people nor real Americans.  It is they who truly are as you said “worthless, seditious unAmerican/anti American reactionary extremist scum.”

My comment is 100% correct.

Your comment 5.1.10 is a total falsehood and ignorant lie.  Your comment 5.1.10 is fascist propaganda.  Your comment 5.1.10 is pure bullshit and absolute filth. 

You are a self-declared "enemy of the state", i.e. enemy of America.  That's all we real Americans need to know.

Opinions do vary

Yes, they do.

And opinions different than yours are as legitimate as yours are

Only if they are informed by facts and comport with reality, unlike, for example, Comment 5.1.10.

There was. It so much as even one single fact or truth in posts 5.1.9 or 5.1.11.  

From the article:  "the Left has managed in just 11 months to alienate a majority of voters."

That is the bottom line here!