Cal Thomas: Is Merrick Garland serious?
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Cal Thomas: Is Merrick Garland serious?
Cal Thomas, Tribune Content Agency,
Cal Thomas Posted 08/15/2022 at 11:15 am EST
Commenting about the FBI executing a search warrant on former president Donald Trump's Florida home, which he approved, Attorney General Merrick Garland said: "Faithful adherence to the rule of law is the bedrock principle of the Justice Department and of our democracy. … All Americans are entitled to the even-handed application of the law, to due process, and to the presumption of innocence."
None of this applies to the way the Department of Justice, the FBI and most of the media have treated Donald Trump.
From the Steele Dossier, Russia "collusion," the labeling of Trump as a Russian "asset," the Mueller Report, and the refusal by the Biden administration to enforce our immigration laws, the Justice Department in this administration has done just the opposite when it comes to equal application of the law and due process.
Whatever one thinks of Trump's character, he is entitled to the same presumption of innocence as any other American. Trump always suffers from a presumption of guilt. He is forced to continually prove he is innocent of charges, often made by "sources" who leak information to anti-Trump media, or must explain himself to hostile Democrats (and a few hostile Republicans).
The specter of armed federal agents outside Trump's Florida home is not an image I suspect many of us are comfortable with. Even those who do not like Trump and hope he does not run for president in 2024 should be alarmed at how this focus on him is contributing to what has been a long slide in the trust Americans place in our institutions.
In 1973, when the Gallup organization began polling on the subject, 42 percent of respondents had a "great deal/quite a lot" of confidence in Congress. This year that number is just 7 percent.
In 1991, 73 percent of the public had a great deal/quite a lot of confidence in the presidency. This year only 23 percent feel that way.
Confidence in the criminal justice system has reached a new low with just 14 percent coming down on the side of great deal/quite a lot. Is it any wonder with stories of woke prosecutors freeing criminals with low or no bail only to see many of them commit new crimes?
In what should be a warning to the media - a warning that has been apparent for many years—confidence in the trustworthiness of newspapers has declined from a high of 51 percent in 1979, to a record low of 16 percent today. Confidence in TV news reflects a similar drop - from 46 percent in 1993, to the current 11 percent. Perhaps some introspection by the media as to the "root causes" might be beneficial to the profession and the public.
Gallup has recorded similar declines in confidence levels for other institutions, including the church (no wonder with all the scandals and some TV evangelists still living the lifestyles of potentates as opposed to that of the One they claim to follow). It may surprise many that the police, which have been under heavy assault from various liberal groups, continue to enjoy major support. Gallup found 45 percent have a great deal/quite a lot of confidence in the police, down only from 52 percent in 1993.
No foreign power could hope to undermine the pillars of our democracy better than we are doing ourselves. Serious attention to rebuilding these and other institutions, which can lead to restoring confidence in them, is urgently required.
Readers may email Cal Thomas at tcaeditors@tribpub.com. Look for Cal Thomas' latest book "America's Expiration Date: The Fall of Empires and Superpowers and the Future of the United States" (HarperCollins/Zondervan).
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Seriously doesn't seem like it..............
Unless you are the President who embarrassed the Democrats time and again.
Joseph Goebbels would be proud of the propaganda being pumped out by the media in the US.
Bizarre article, to say the least. Most of it is a lamentation about how "the people" dont trust institutions any more, along with a dusting of sympathy for the horrible way Trump has been treated.
One doesnt know whether to laugh or cry. One thing is for sure - this article is meaningless, other than to prove old warhorse right wingers like Cal Thomas should retire.
Cal, YOU CAN'T RESTORE TRUST IN POLITICS AND INSTITUTIONS BY PROMOTING THE 'INNOCENCE' OF DONALD TRUMP. People will just laugh at you. Trump has NEVER had approval of 50% or more of Americans, so by definition he is the hero of a minority faction. In this case a minority faction of the misinformed, uninformed, malformed, conspiracy fans and "patriots" upset that we are in the 21st century.
I also do not understand this article. It claims:
Yet fails to show where Trump was treated differently. If anything, Trump was given more breaks than an average citizen by them "negotiating" with him for almost 9 months to get back the documents he illegally took.
Do you have any proof of this assertion? For some reason, no details have been leaked yet
If you don't understand that nobody can get through to you.
If Trump has been treated a little differently it is because he behaved a lot differently (in a bad way) than any poltician we had seen before.
When Trump asked Russia to help him find dirt on Hillary Clinton in the summer of 2016 jaws dropped all over America. What is wrong with this guy , was the thought. When he talked about a debate moderator "bleeding all over" which was seen as a misogynistic comment, more jaws dropped. When he said he would not accept the results of the 2016 election unless he won, when he retweeted white supremacists about a dozen times , dont you think the FBI was impressed by how off the wall dangerous this guy was? Trump made his own bed but never wanted to lie in it. He lied everywhere else though.
Yeah, I've heard of that negotiating for nine months bit from others on this board but cannot find any info about it in main-stream media, would love to know where that is coming from.
Also, would love to know what the FBI / DOJ looked at when they were down there in June and signed off, and what was not shown to them. I've complained that there is still just way to many unanswered questions but get shouted down by those demanding Trumps head. I would also love to see the affidavit but understand we may never see that and at a minimum that doesn't get released until after any court case. But in many cases the affidavit lays out suspected / probable crimes committed so it's also curious why the FBI didn't arrest Trump when serving the warrant. If the crimes were so serious and the suspicion of crime was there then why with his money and contacts was he left free after the raid? If they took his passports due to flight risk, why couldn't he just get on his plane and leave anyway? He has the money and contacts to go almost anywhere in the world so it wouldn't be hard for him. Just more unanswered questions.
What on earth are you talking about?
Got any quotes for that claim?
Get lost.
He's probably talking about this...
But wasn't that part of the Mueller investigation which concluded that this was all just a big maybe, with no definite proof and no punishment coming for anybody in that meeting?
There are indeed critical unanswered questions:
Until these questions —at a minimum— are answered, we do not know if it is Trump or the DoJ/FBI that has done wrong (or both). There is speculation that Trump committed a crime and there is speculation that Trump has done nothing wrong. In both case, we lack critical information to move from speculation to fact.
Another important question for the purpose of national security is:
How was Trump allowed to even hold classified documents (if so) at his residence when he left office?
If that were my intent, I would simply read more of your bizarre, unsupported wild-ass claims, JR!
I can get lost for days in those fantasies!
Sure it was.
Problem for some Democrats is they banked on Mueller to 'get' Trump for them.
Now, facts and whatever he may have found have been perverted to support fantastical conspiracy theories.
Actually, he was a very good President. He was clearly a threat to the ruling class, but thanks for finally admitting that he was treated "differently: as in unfairly.
When Trump asked Russia to help him find dirt on Hillary Clinton in the summer of 2016 jaws dropped all over America.
You know that's not what he said. How about you give the quote with a link. Even the far left Time magazine was able to do it:
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said at a press conference in Doral, Florida, Wednesday morning after the second night of the Democratic convention. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. Let’s see if that happens.”
Trump didn't ask them to do anything. Such an interpretation is insane btw, but the left wing media ran with that interpretation, as have you ever since.
When he said he would not accept the results of the 2016 election unless he won, when he retweeted white supremacists about a dozen times ,
But it was the little darlin' that propagated the Russia/collusion hoax that adamantly refused to accept the results of 2016:
"Hillary Clinton is sticking with her conviction that the 2016 presidential election was not conducted legitimately, saying the details surrounding her loss are still unclear.
“There was a widespread understanding that this election [in 2016] was not on the level,” Clinton said during an interview for the latest episode of The Atlantic’s politics podcast, The Ticket . “We still don’t know what really happened.”
“There’s just a lot that I think will be revealed. History will discover,” the Democratic Party’s 2016 presidential nominee continued. “But you don’t win by 3 million votes and have all this other shenanigans and stuff going on and not come away with an idea like, ‘Whoa, something’s not right here.’ That was a deep sense of unease.”
So, you see John it's not Trump. It's the fucking radical left.
Although that is not what I was talking about, you are completely misrepresenting the situation, which is probably why so many Trumpsters think there is no evidence.
Donald Trump Jr and Jared Kushner, and Manafort, met with a couple Russians in Trump Tower in June of 2016 with the absolute purpose of getting dirt on Hillary Clinton from the Russians. Some time before that Trump Jr had been informed in an email from an acquaintance that the Russian government had dirt on Clinton they would be willing to share.
Mueller acknowledged these facts in his report but said , although indictable, Trump and Kushner were too ignorant of the fact that what they were doing was illegal for "intent" to be proven in a court of law.
As far as Trump, he stood on a stage at a press conference a week or two later , and suggested Russia might want to find Hillary's missing emails and make them public. This plea for a foreign hostile power to interfere in an American election was unprecedented of course, and the intent was for them to help HIS campaign by producing dirt on Clinton from her missing emails.
Has any other presidential candidate you have ever heard of suggested that a hostile foreign power help his campaign out? I dont think so , lol.
Trump has done so many despicable things you can no longer keep track of them.
Had any of the classified documents that were seized been declassified prior to Trump taking them? The sitting President has enormous powers to declassify documents. Would there be a record elsewhere that it was done? Probably should be but is it truly required? I don't know. It's also possible I guess that Trump did declassify them in his last hours but due to the chaos of packing some paperwork was missed. We will never really know I believe.
The optics of this are bad all the way around. IMO if they want to thru this around and get the public to calm down the DOJ needs to come out with a lot more information and show the justification for their actions, and Trump needs to publicly state that people need to calm down over this and let the courts handle it. But I don't expect either to happen.
I will admit that even unclassified, IMO it is wrong for a president to take them as they can show means and methods. They should have remained with the National Archives IMO.
What is most troubling for our nation is that so many continue to defend Trump no matter what he does. This is why the Big Lie campaign is so noteworthy to me — it was the most blatantly obvious, lengthy, highly publicized, outrageous display of Trump's abysmal character and willingness to bring harm to the nation simply because his ego could not tolerate losing the election.
That would be a no.
Completely ridiculous. He signaled to the Russian intelligence services, already credibly accused of hacking the Democratic National Committee servers and either selling or giving the results to Wikileaks for public consumption, that they should find the emails and they would be "rewarded" if they did so.
Only someone [deleted] would see what he said and not conclude he was asking them to do it. And in fact, the Russians attempted to hack into Clinton's computer system that very night.
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Just what the national archives has posted. Which is good enough for me.
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They have lied so many times for so long about Trump they have managed to pervert facts to support inane conspiracy theories.
Translation: you have nothing.
He had a lot of completely obvious outrageous displays.
I know.
These questions I ask usually end up being rhetorical, because they rarely if ever actually get a comprehensible, on-topic answer.
And so many will continue to attack Trump no matter what he does. The continued lie about the 2020 election and his actions over the past 18 months from that election have caused great harm to the nation, but for the entire term when Trump was in office there was a large group of the nation (both individuals and main-stream media) who attacked Trump regardless of what he did or said. Their inability to see and acknowledge anything that Trump did that was good for the nation simply reflects on their bias.
No, he didn't signal a thing. Nobody signals with public statements. What he said turned out to be accurate. Hillary had confidential e-mail on her personal server and the IG later said that the information contained there probably feel into the wrong hands and was as he put it "compromised." The fact that there was an investigation of her personal server would be the real fucking signal for Russia, China and Iran to go looking at Hillary Clinton's unsecured e-mails.
Only someone truly dense would see what he said and not conclude he was asking them to do it.
Only a radical leftist would keep spinning it.
So what? She's right. Russia helped Trump's campaign. This was specifically acknowledged by the Senate Intelligence Committee report on Russian interference in the election.
You are hanging your hat on the Mueller conclusion that there was no provable "collusion" which Muller took to be a legal term which he would be unable to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. None of that means Mueller was blind to Russian interference in the election. Most of the crap that came out about Hillary having brain tumors and mysterious diseases that made her medically unqualified to be president came from Russian trolls in order to effect the election.
Yep, it's still a no quote just the crazy conspiracy theories.
They've misrepresented not only Trump but lied about him being a traitor for his entire Presidency, investigated him without any predicate, impeached him twice out of spite (the second time he wasn't even the President), they have smeared half the country, condoned improper behavior by the FBI, adopted two standards of Justice and sadly even misrepresented themselves, some of them claiming to be non-partisan.
You are beyond silly Vic. Trump signals with public statements all the time. One could say every damn day.
Of course he was signaling to Russia that he wanted them to interfere in the election. Just a week or two before his son had met with Russians at Trump Tower to get dirt on Clinton. If you think Trump wasnt aware of that meeting , either before or after (but certainly before his message to Russia from the press conference) I'll sell you the Brooklyn bridge.
You are unbelievable. And almost always laughably wrong with the facts.
Probably because much of the nation was subjected daily to cries about "Wait until Mueller releases his report--we have really got Trump NOW!" bullshit.
Mueller released his report. Trump isn't indicted.
The meeting was legit. Weissmann couldn't spin it, maybe you should throw in the towel as well.
The critical questions posed in my post:
Yes, the declassification process maintains a formal record of documents that were declassified.
It is not possible for a PotUS to officially declassify documents without the formal declassification process recording same. For this to be true, our national security protocols would need to be at the level of a third world nation. A PotUS cannot simply waive his hand and declassify. There is no reasonable scenario wherein a document is officially declassified and no records of same exist. Without the records, the document remains classified.
Of course. And the optics are actually an argument that the DoJ/FBI have something significant. As I have noted elsewhere, it would be brain-dead-stupid for the DoJ/FBI to engage in a search & seizure operation on the residence of a former PotUS —an act that has never taken place in our history— unless it was certain to produce results that justify the historically extraordinary action.
Or at least in a government secured facility. Never in the private residence of a former PotUS.
If you think I'm unbelievable, just wait until November.
Is someone who lies to or misleads the public 30,000 times ( WHILE IN OFFICE ! ) "good for the nation?" It is absurd that we even have to discuss this.
Actually Russia interfered with the 2020 election on all sides, they were just more successful in breaking into the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic National Committee. They also tried hacking into the Republican Campaign Committee but were not successful. Can you tell us how long it's been since Russia didn't try to interfere with a U.S. election? I don't know the answer but I know it's been a very long time. Most countries attempt to interfere with elections to get a government that may be more favorable to them.
While he was president , Trump officially attacked over 600 people, by name, on his Twitter page. He said his twitter was the same as a declaration by the White House.
Do you think it was admirable for the president of the United States to verbally attack so many people by name, in public, just because they disagreed with him ?
The 600 figure is low as well, because that was the number only half way through his term.
The Senate Intelligence Committee report specifically states that Russia was interfering with the hope Trump would win.
Utter nonsense. You need to pick up a book Vic.
Get lost.
And you prove my point. Not everything Trump did while in office was bad and there were things that were for the good of the nation. The simple fact that you refuse to acknowledge any of it is the point. You would rather hang your hat on what the Washington Post said than think for yourself and that's the absurd part.
Nowhere will you find me saying that Trump is 100% honest and truthful. But the Washington Post has shown their extreme bias against Trump. Hell, everybody in public office lies to get there and lies to stay there but they only focused on Trump. They ignore anything else around it. If you refuse to see that then that is on you.
If that were my intent, I would simply read more of your bizarre, unsupported wild-ass claims, JR!
I can get lost for days in those fantasies!
She's never been right, John. That Russia hoax that you swallowed, hook, line & sinker came out of her campaign. Anyone who believes that Russian propaganda is palpable is deluding themselves. And anyone who decides who to vote for because of something they read on Twitter (or because Jim Clyburn told them who to vote for) shouldn't be voting.
You are hanging your hat on the Mueller conclusion that there was no provable "collusion"
No John, If you recall I knew Mueller never had anything. Even Weissmann knew they were going to have to find something. So they used the FBI's old MO against organized Crime. They threatened and tried to scare people like Paul Manafort. They even obtained a 47 month sentence for Manafort hoping that he would either tell what they thought Trump may have done or make something up. It all failed.
Given Trump's history prior to office, his incessant lying, what he has done while in office, and most significantly his Big Lie campaign, it is not at all surprising that people attack him.
Trump is a con-man (among other negative characteristics). After his Big Lie campaign he no longer deserves the benefit of a doubt. So those who presume Trump has done wrong have good circumstantial reason to hold that position.
Note: I am saying that speculating that Trump has done wrong is more sound based on what we know of Trump than is speculating that Trump has done no wrong. Trump does deserve normal justice but his past actions certainly support negative speculation.
In short, it is not at all surprising that people attack Trump.
Simple answer, no. Hell, I wished during the 2016 campaign that someone would / could take his phone away from him but that didn't happen. Trump attacked people and threw people under the bus. He's done that sort of shit his entire life. But calling someone names on a public source is not the whole story, if it was then there are a few on this very board who would be considered the 'New Oracles of Delphi' with their constant name calling and attacking.
You are hopeless. The only way Trump would EVER be fit for office is if no one gave a damn about his character , truthfulness, and knowledge of the history of this country. He has none of any of those.
What did he do that was "good" for the country? He got next to nothing through Congress other than a tax break that disproportionately benefited the wealthy, almost everything he accomplished was through executive orders which the next president can rescind ( and Biden did rescind a lot of them) , and he , by pure luck, was able to put three far right justices on the Supreme Court. That wasnt done through any skill or wisdom of his, but by circumstance. The economy was ok, but many think it was a continuation of the last couple years of the Obama presidency.
The main thing Trump accomplished was to tear the country apart.
They swallowed the lies hook, line and sinker, and then wonder why some don't find their lies credible?
I guess it must be hard to fathom how some people can be discerning and not swallow lies when they can do nothing BUT swallow.
Agreed. Trump has demonstrated that he is willing to throw pretty much anyone under the bus. He has demonstrated that he will go to even extraordinarily slimy methods to get what he wants. He has, importantly, demonstrated that he places himself above the good of our nation.
Trump has distinguished himself from all other PotUS' and the distinction is a very bad one.
Yeah, ok, whatever.
Maybe not surprising but it is boring and troublesome (at the same time) when people will attack Trump rather than look big picture. There are, for example, so many unanswered questions around the raid on Mar-a-Lago but if anybody questions the DOJ they are attacked and rounded upon by those who will defend ANY action taken against Trump. This has been the case for several on this board ever since Trump first announced he was running back in 2015 without any consideration or acknowledgement of a bigger picture. To them the only picture was Trump and their only focus was in attacking Trump. That gets very tiresome.
Ridiculous.
We have always had differences between parties in this country.
Going all Chicken Little in a fearmongering effort is a waste of time and brain cells.
What is the point of constantly repeating this? It is both obvious and common knowledge that mid-term elections favor the party out of power. It is also common knowledge that economic woes go against the party in power.
The Rs have a distinct advantage in November because they are the party out of power. All other factors are gravy.
Most everyone knows this. You are not predicting anything. So when the Rs take control of Congress (the most likely, obvious scenario at this point) your 'I told you so' would be as impressive as predicting that Trump will lie during his next speech.
Epic, that is what happens when investigations are based on lies and deceit. The TDS crowd were so eager to believe the salacious nonsense they bought it hook, line, and sinker. Gullibility of some is astounding. Waste of resources that could have gone to something more important such as stopping school shootings, investigating pervs sexually abusing little gymnast, sex trafficking, etc. The list is endless.
So you don't like his mean and coarse personality.
He was still the only logical choice in both past elections
Of course he did. My point, which you seem to never get, is that the Big Lie was the most visible, blatantly obvious display of Trumps abysmal character during his term.
The Big Lie was not something that could be swept under the rug or easily forgotten. It was and is a blatant, undeniable illustration that Trump should never have the power of any public office.
Oh I agree with that, but your approach implies that prior to the 2020 election he hadnt done much that made him unfit to hold office, when there is a mountain of serious misbehavior on his part from 2015 on. 2011 if you count his racist birtherism.
Not everyone shares your sentiments on that.
Some are insisting Democrats will not lose, and that the Biden economy is freaking great! I mean, come on, man, inflation is at ZERO!
He's a pathological liar, has that actually escaped your grasp? Coarse personality ? LOL.
Sounds like they have thrown in the towel already. Willing to accept defeat because that's how it always works...lol
Nothing to do with a 8.5% inflation rate.
I think most are looking at the big picture. The big picture is that Trump is a parasite that weakens the GoP and that Trump is a growing stain on our nation. The big picture is that we should rid ourselves of Trump and try to heal the GoP and the nation. Trump brings this on himself.
What I have observed are not simply questioning the DoJ/FBI but conspiracy theories that the DoJ/FBI is just out to get Trump. Most every conservative here has argued or claimed that the DoJ/FBI is clearly at fault yet nobody could possibly know that.
Yeah, well I am more concerned with the facts. So, back to the Big Lie, see 3.1.47
What politician has ever had good character and truthfulness? They all fucking lie, biggest difference is that Trump didn't bother to try to hide it while the "successful" presidents are better actors.
You continue to make my point. Your refusal to acknowledge any of the good that Trump did only continues to highlight your bias. Now did Trump do a lot thru executive order? Yes he did, same as most recent presidents. Tell me, how much did President "I have a pen and a phone" Obama get thru Congress, how many EO's did he write and how many of them did Trump overturn when Trump came into office? But that is more indicative of the highly partisan nature of Congress and the proof that the party's run the show rather than the Congressmen. How much has Biden gotten thru Congress vs his ability to write Executive Orders? You want to imply that Trump is unique in this problem but this is an issue that has been growing larger since Reagan and I have no idea when or where it's going to end up at.
Yep, elections have consequences. So?
And many give credit to Trump for the policies of his that made the economy better. Hell, how many predicted that if Trump were elected the U.S. would fall into a recession? That didn't happen as you well know. This just further highlights your inability to acknowledge anything that Trump did that was good.
You never have everyone holding the same position.
It is a fact that mid-term elections historically have favored the party out of power.
It is a fact that economic woes go against the party in power.
This is not a position, this is simply acknowledging facts.
'They'? Texan was speaking with me. Who is the 'they' you attribute to me?
That's not the only piece of the big picture. It is just a portion of the problem and all some people can focus on.
My concern with Trump is limited to his presidency and influence on the GoP and nation since his presidency.
Not sure what you need to hear from me, John, given I have never argued hat Trump magically became a con-man when he was sworn in as PotUS. He has been a slimy con-man his entire life. I do not think anyone with such ethics should hold public office, but the vast majority of our political 'leaders' are, IMO, unethical narcissists. Trump definitely is the poster child, but such abysmal character is unfortunately replete in our elected officials.
Okay, I am not going to reduce our discussion to semantics of what constitutes 'big picture'. This is almost meaningless given what we were discussing.
Which some steadfastly refuse to do.
I would venture to say that Obama and the Clinton have some classified materials in their private residences at this very moment..
Fair enough. I think it's wrong and short-sighted but it's your choice. I just think the bigger picture revolves around the DOJ. The optics around their actions for the past couple of years is a big concern for me. Whistle-blowers are coming forward about how some buried the Hunter Biden laptop issue, how Comey concluded that HRC and her email server did compromise classified documents and she was not prosecuted vs this raid of Trump. It appears that there is a bias in the DOJ that needs to be shown to be inaccurate or trust will never return. And if we cannot trust our DOJ then were are we left? If the concern over classified documents were so concerning, then why was the warrent signed on a Friday and the raid not happen until the following Monday? If the DOJ has taken documents that are covered under client-attorney privilege, or executive privilege, what are they doing to protect them to insure they are not misused? The optics of this are horrible for this country.
Do I want Trump back in office? Hell no. I've stated that before. IMO his actions since the 2020 election where he continues to push his "big lie" are all that I need to never want him in public office again. Doesn't mean I won't worry about other concerns that further erode the the trust and abilities of other government agencies.
We don't know that so I dislike any speculation around that. But the other side of that is there are so many levels of classification and the federal government has been known to go "overboard' in classifying documents that it's very possible that a simple phone list of who's in what office in the White House could be considered confidential. So never say never but I dislike speculation of that in this discussion as it grants the nay-sayers the ability to shout "what-about-ism".
Is it your opinion that Obama and Clinton have TS/SCI classified documents in their private residences? On what do you base this?
You think I am being short-sighted by not wasting time debating the meaning of the phrase 'big picture'? Out of all that I wrote you focused on what constitutes 'big picture'. Wanting to continue to speak of what matters is hardly short-sighted.
The optics are not nearly as relevant as the truth. I want to know the truth.
Why is this question repeated in the R circles? It presumes that there would be no tactical or logistical reason for the FBI to conduct their operation on Monday instead of the instant the warrant was signed on Friday. Such presumption is silly. Sure, if the warrant was signed in July and they waited until August I can see the obvious question. But Friday to Monday? Grasping at straws.
Should we not wait until we know this actually happened?
Of course we want the government to be clean. But idle speculation accomplishes nothing of value.
As I have suggested repeatedly, just follow the facts and when the facts run out ... wait.
Opinions need not be explained to the uninformed..
Unfounded baseless accusations hardly qualify as opinions!
Instead of answering my question you decline and label me "uninformed"?
“Opinions need not be explained to the uninformed..”
Making them all just uninformed opinions.
Plenty of those hereabouts unless, of course, your opinion should in any way somehow stand above the rest.
You make countless unfounded baseless accusations everyday.
Of course I do. Go bother someone else
“You make countless unfounded baseless accusations everyday.”
Thank gawd you are here everyday in your specious attempts to refute them…
I stand by my opinions....yours are irrelevant and of little value
I usually don't waste my time since they have no value to me
Have a nice day.
“I stand by my opinions....”
As do I.
Relevancy is for the reader to decide. It is my opinion you have no desire to engage in a reasonable discussion as reason has somehow left your building.
And where in this thread have you shown this desire?
Who are you?
In reply to my comment @3.1.32 (not addressed to you) you replied @3.1.67 yielding this exchange:
Bother someone else? In response to my obvious question on what you posted, you immediately went personal and snarky and then have the temerity to imply that I am the one who is doing the trolling.
If you cannot stand to have your opinions challenged by the person you addressed, then you should spend your time on an echo chamber.
And neither do dumbass memes.
That last bit is the rub. I'm not going to defend Trump's antics. I grew tired of them in short time. But, his problem was his sophomoric approach to what goes on daily in DC. Apart from that, he could stand in line with the rest, including the current dog-faced pony soldier in chief.
He certainly is not alone in lying and cheating, but Trump has defined a new categorical low.
No PotUS (or even candidate) in US history has come close to the wrongful acts of Trump during his Big Lie campaign. That alone (even if we disregard all that took place during his presidency and all that we know of Trump prior to office) distinguishes him in a bad way. And if it turns out that he was holding classified TS/SCI documents and was not cooperating in their return, then just add that to his ugly legacy.
I think you are being short sighted when you want to focus on Trump and ignore the DOJ. Trump is a problem and we would all be better off if he would just step out of the limelight and went away, but IMO the bigger picture is the DOJ and how they have acted with seemingly bias for the past few years.
I want to know the truth as well, but until we do get the truth all we have are the optics. And if history is any example we won't get the truth, we will only get what some news media darling puts forth as their truth.
Maybe, maybe not. It was hyped as very critical to national security and pundits "leaked" info about nuclear weapons/programs. So IMO the question about the delay over the weekend (as well as why no immediate arrest of Trump) are valid questions that deserve an answer.
The federal government has a bad habit of "classifying" actions they take that may make them look bad. If history is any example we will never get the background and truth of this.
Ok, that's just funny. Here you are just like the rest of us, indulging in speculation just like everybody else on this board.
All you need do is carefully read what I wrote and it would be clear that you are changing my meaning.
Note my beginning post in our exchange: TiG@3.1.8:
Now how is it that you cannot see that I argued that both Trump and the DoJ/FBI could be engaged in wrong-doing and that we need some critical questions answered before we can proceed with our analysis?
I wrote 'idle speculation'. Idle speculation is speculation that pursues an unlikely end. It is next to conspiracy theory.
I have enumerated reasonable possibilities (both ways) as part of analysis and have explicitly noted that we lack the facts to say that any of them are true. That is not idle speculation, it is analysis.
Democrats like to keep their adversaries on the defense. They can't win over the public by promoting their policies so a boogeyman is always needed. It may be climate change fear from nut jobs like AOC or endless investigations into Trump that have not resulted in any convictions. And they use taxpayers funds to do it. Hard to imagine that any American would want this for themselves and families.
Apparently they do considering they voted in the most failed politician.
Obama tried to warn them...
Merrick Garland is a lifelong rock ribbed conservative Republican!
Not a bit true.
Thanks for the chuckle.
This author needs to focus a little. He’s all over the place. I think that’s part of the problem with his dissatisfaction. Here is his main problem:
Our criminal legal system presumes a person’s innocence. DOJ, the FBI, and the media are not our legal system. The first two are merely components of that system. Cogs in the machinery. The media is its own private industry. That should be obvious. They are not even part of the legal system.
Less obvious, I suppose, is that it’s not the role of DOJ and the FBI to confirm the innocence of anyone. They are in the business of sniffing out crime. They obtain warrants based on “probable cause,” which is a relatively low standard of proof. They look for stuff that could possibly be evidence of crime and then they act on that search to push an investigation and arrest. The matter is adjudicated in court, not in the minds or offices of FBI agents.
This is why we always say “don’t talk to the police.” They are not your friends. It is not their job to be your friend. It is their job to arrest people.
That isn't what Comey said. He made the FBI's judgement as to whether Hillary Clinton should be prosecuted. The Attorney General makes the decision to prosecute. The FBI is an investigative agency and does not have the authority to make prosecutorial decisions.
But they do have discretion within their limited sphere. And yeah, Comey is a train wreck.
At least not at the crime scene. I'd recommend befriending a few troopers and local cops though.
What Trump sycophants are bitching and moaning about is that Trump is often seen as presumed "guilty" by the court of public opinion, the "main stream" Americans, the "bi-coastal liberal progressive secular elitist's and Godless Hollywood homosexuals" who see Trump for the slimy lying scum bag sexual predator he is. That's why the right wing conservatives he appealed to created their own universe to live in with their own right wing conservative media, right wing conservative news sources and their "alternative facts".