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Chinese spy balloon carried 'multiple antennas' for collecting signals intelligence, State Dept. says

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  last year  •  53 comments

By:   Abigail Williams (NBC News)

Chinese spy balloon carried 'multiple antennas' for collecting signals intelligence, State Dept. says
The Chinese balloon that flew above the U.S. for eight days included "multiple antennas" capable of collecting signals intelligence, a State Department official said.

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The Chinese balloon that flew above the U.S. for eight days included "multiple antennas" capable of collecting signals intelligence, a senior State Department official said Thursday, and the balloon maker has proven ties to the Chinese military.

While China condemned the U.S. for destroying what it said was a weather balloon, the State Department official described the balloon as carrying equipment designed to collect communications and threatened action against Beijing.

According to the official, photos taken by high-altitude U-2 planes confirmed the presence of the equipment, including "multiple antennas … likely capable of collecting and geo-locating communications" and "solar panels large enough to produce the requisite power to operate multiple active intelligence collection sensors." The equipment was "inconsistent" with that aboard weather balloons.

China's surveillance reach far more extensive than previously known, Blinken says


Feb. 9, 202301:12

NBC News was first to report the U-2 fly-bys.

The official said that the U.S. is confident that the manufacturer of the balloon "has a direct relationship with China's military and is an approved vendor of the [People's Liberation Army], according to information published in an official procurement portal for the PLA."

The balloons are part of a fleet "developed to conduct surveillance operations' that are often undertaken at the military's direction, said the official.

"The United States will also explore taking action against PRC entities linked to the PLA that supported the balloon's incursion into U.S. airspace," the official said, using the initials for the People's Republic of China. "We will also look at broader efforts to expose and address the PRC's larger surveillance activities that pose a threat to our national security, and to our allies and partners."

On Wednesday, Pentagon press secretary Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said that the U.S. has gathered extensive information about the Chinese surveillance balloons over time and will be able to detect them in the future.

Senators to receive classified briefing on alleged Chinese spy balloon


Feb. 9, 202304:20

Ryder said at a news conference that "in terms of monitoring these and collecting on them, we have been able to put together a body of knowledge that enables us to be able to detect them and act."

U.S. officials said previously that there were had been multiple Chinese balloon flights over American territory during the former Trump administration and another during the Biden administration.

Ryder gave no further details about the routes of those flights or other information, but said the U.S. government later determined some of those sightings were Chinese high-altitude spy balloons.

"What we do know is that in some cases, whereas some of these balloons previously had not been identified, subsequent analysis, subsequent intelligence analysis did enable us to indicate that these were Chinese balloons," Ryder said.

He added, "We've acknowledged publicly that we know that they were looking to surveil strategic sites, to include some of our strategic bases in the continental United States."

Abigail Williams

Abigail Williams is a producer and reporter for NBC News covering the State Department.


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Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    last year

No wonder they wanted it back.....................

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
1.1  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    last year

How many Biden apologists here tried to dismiss this as a weather balloon? Or just tried to jokingly pass it off as nothing? That’s why the former democrat party will forever be known as simply the CCP/DNC

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
1.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  George @1.1    last year

When do we start shooting down each other’s’ satellites?

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.1.1    last year

Right after Brandon sells China the US nuclear codes.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
1.1.3  Hallux  replied to  George @1.1    last year
How many Biden apologists here tried to dismiss this as a weather balloon?

Is that a rhetorical question? Hey I can ask one also ... how many folks on the right went into deep fright with theories that it was carrying a new virus, carrying an EMP or yikes, a nuke?

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
1.1.4  Hallux  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.2    last year

Ivanka already traded them for a fistfull of copywrites.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @1.1    last year
How many Biden apologists here tried to dismiss this as a weather balloon?

They too busy laughing at non funny jokes.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.1.3    last year
how many folks on the right went into deep fright with theories that it was carrying a new virus, carrying an EMP or yikes, a nuke?

Allow me:

ZERO!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.1.4    last year

You've worn that out.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
1.1.8  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.6    last year

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
1.1.9  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    last year

Just keeping pace with similar overused nonsense.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.1.8    last year

That was someone asking a "what if" question.

You don't like questions?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.6    last year

That's not true.

It was a lot on your 'articles'

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    last year

The truth?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.15  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.12    last year

Actually it was one person questioning what a balloon could carry

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.5    last year

Ya!  Those satire pieces provided by a certain poster are never funny, that's one thing you've gotten correct.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.18  Tessylo  replied to    last year

Don't worry about it. [deleted]

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.19  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.16    last year

You mean the safe spaces. You're right, they are disgusting!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.15    last year

The instance Hallux offered.

I'm sure there are many, many more on your 'articles'

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.21  Tessylo  replied to    last year

No, that's you.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.22  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.19    last year

That's not what I said.

Incorrect, AGAIN.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.24  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.20    last year
The instance Hallux offered.

Well, I've got to call you now:

What instance?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.25  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.22    last year
That's not what I said.

Don't put words in my mouth!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.26  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.24    last year

I'm sure there are many more other than the one Hallux noted.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.28  Tessylo  replied to    last year

Again, that would be you.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.29  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.25    last year

I never do.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.31  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.26    last year
I'm sure there are many more other than the one Hallux noted.

Go check and let us know

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.32  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.31    last year

No need.  You know I'm correct.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.33  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.26    last year

Did you even LOOK at the one Hallux noted? It wasn't Vic's "article". 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.35  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.33    last year

I didn't say it was.

Point out where I did.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.1.37  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.35    last year

Implied.........big time.

1.1.6, 1.1.12, 1.1.20, 1.1.24, 1.1.26

you should follow your own comments a bit closer instead of just commenting to comment and disagree for disagreement's sake.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.38  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.37    last year

So, I didn't say it.

Point out where I said it.  You cannot......big time.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
1.1.41  George  replied to  Hallux @1.1.3    last year

0 any other dumb questions?

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
1.1.42  SteevieGee  replied to  George @1.1    last year
How many Biden apologists here tried to dismiss this as a weather balloon?

I haven't heard about anybody doing that except for China.  I wonder how much fake and useless data the Pentagon intentionally fed it while it traversed the country?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    last year

[deleted]

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2  Sparty On    last year

This just reaffirms a key principle for a free person to live by:

Better dead than red.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @2    last year

Adlai Stevenson said when we lose faith in government we lose everything.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year

That has been going on in many nations for at least 20+ years and all sides including yours and mine are responsible. No one gets a pass.

BTW ... the full quote is: 'Public confidence in the integrity of the Government is indispensable to faith in democracy; and when we lose faith in the system, we have lost faith in everything we fight and spend for.'

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @2.1.1    last year

Don't forget the citation!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year

I’m not sure I agree with that.    

We lost faith in our government here at least twice.    Once in the 1700’s and once in the 1800’s.    To the betterment of this country in both cases.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.3    last year
We lost faith in our government here at least twice.    Once in the 1700’s and once in the 1800’s.

Oh, I thought you meant Obama & Biden.


 To the betterment of this country in both cases.

Good point!

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
3  Nerm_L    last year

Ah, yes, the famed military mission creep.  Now the military has discovered that the balloon was collecting ELINT and not spying with cameras.  Which, BTW, doesn't require being over a target or over the United States.  There isn't any way to navigate a spherical balloon so the military claims that China intentionally sent the balloon into US airspace has always been rather obviously bogus.  The military was caught with its pants down and now is trying to cover its brass.

My first thought was that the balloon was associated with Helium cryptocurrency which would mean the balloon was a communications relay, like a cell tower.  Since China claimed ownership that speculation went out the window.  But Chinese ownership doesn't change the obvious purpose of the balloon to act as a communications relay.  If China really wanted to collect intel, as the military is claiming, then drones would be a better choice for both visual observation and collecting communications.  A drone wouldn't need to cross into US airspace to collect the intel.  And the military would still be caught with its pants down and trying to cover its brass.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
4  George    last year

I can understand Biden not knowing what our government is doing, He's a senile old fool, but if he believes this?

Washington believes the balloon shot down over the Atlantic on Saturday is part of an extensive Chinese surveillance program – but that Xi Jinping, China’s most powerful leader in decades, may not have been aware of the mission. The US says Xi didn't know about the balloon. That raises even more questions | CNN

He's the dumbest fucker to ever hold the title of POTUS.

 
 

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