Transgender Woman Winning Miss Netherlands Sparks Furor—'Simply Evil'
By: Jamie Burton (Newsweek)
Crazy shit..........................
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On Saturday, Rikkie Valerie Kolle became the first transgender woman to win the Miss Netherlands competition—but her victory is being overshadowed by online backlash.
After officially being crowned Miss Nederlands, Kolle has now qualified for the international contest Miss Universe, where she will be the second transgender woman ever to compete.
The 22-year-old shared her delight with her followers on social media hours after she received her crown, but people disagreeing with her participation flooded the comment section on her Instagram post.
After speaking about making her community proud, including a trans flag emoji, Kolle wrote, "yes I'm trans and I want to share my story but I'm also Rikkie and that's what matters to me. Did this on my own and loved every moment of it."
Transgender model Rikkie Valerie Kolle won the Miss Netherlands competition in July 2023, but her victory is being overshadowed by negative online comments.Instagram @RikkieValerieKolle
The comments that received the highest number of likes were from people criticizing Kolle's victory.
"yes you did it, you just steal a victory from a real woman," wrote @fenda_rosa.
"Comments are passing the vibe check. We've had enough of this bulls***. You stole this title from REAL women. You have absolutely nothing to be proud of," @sensiblyshy wrote.
An account named @stan_entrepreneur said, "This is simply evil..."
"A man just stole the first place of a woman and gets applause for it. Full circle, we just killed 200 years of work of women who fought for equality," wrote @dancecareers.world.
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The comments continued as the people criticizing Kolle online seemed to outweigh those who congratulated her.
Advocacy group Independent Women's Voice opposed the victory in a statement posted to their social media channels.
"This is nothing to celebrate," they wrote. "This is a slap in the face to every single woman who competed against this biological male in a competition designed SPECIFICALLY for women."
The American-based organization also have an ongoing campaign to keep transgender athletes out of female sports.
This is nothing to celebrate.This is a slap in the face to every single woman who competed against this biological male in a competition designed SPECIFICALLY for women. https://t.co/jtEBOnjfOK
— Independent Women's Voice (@IWV) July 10, 2023
Kolle is from Breda, a city in the south of the Netherlands. She said in her Instagram post that she wants to be the example for transgender young people that she did not have as a child.
"I did it. It's unreal but I get to call myself @missnederland 2023. It was an educational and beautiful journey, my year can't be broken anymore. I'm so proud and happy I can't even describe it," she wrote.
Criticism of Kolle's victory wasn't confined to the comment section of her Instagram post, as Twitter users also weighed in with their reactions, many of them slamming the competition.
"When a biological male wins contests and prizes intended for females, they call it human rights, and those who oppose them are labeled TERFs (trans-exclusionary radical feminist.)," wrote Twitter user George A. Hamalian.
Many social media users referred to Kolle as "a man" and popular tweeter Wendy Oldershaw, who claims to "oppose wokeness" in her bio, suggested that Miss Universe contests should be boycotted.
"I absolutely despair—why do the REAL females agree to take part & then stand there clapping like trained seals?! But then again seen as a transgender he/she owns the competition what can you expect!! Boycott it until common sense returns," she wrote.
Kolle's victory means she'll be the second transgender Miss Universe contestant after Angela Ponce from Spain in 2018.
Miss Universe 2023 will be held in El Salvador in December.
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Update 07/10/2023, 10:08 a.m. ET: This article was updated to include reaction from Twitter and the statement from Independent Women's Voice.
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Too bad....................
You know, sometimes I am really glad I am as old as I am.
I can't even imagine how stupid and whacked-out the world will be in a couple of decades from now.
This insanity is astounding in its breadth and scope.
In 1973, we imagined 2023 we would have flying cars, instead we get men pretending to be women as the paragon of womenhood.
In all likelihood that world will find ours stupid and whacked-out for fighting over such minor cultural issues.
Can you imagine the looks you would have gotten in 1973 if you demanded people refer to you as they or them?
I'm glad I'll be dead.
I refuse to call men women or women men.
I refuse to advocate for soft-on-crime policies which harm law-abiding citizens.
I refuse to advocate paying for immigrants' food, shelter, clothing, and medical care.
I refuse to support an Administration which doesn't care enough about the border crisis to even acknowledge it.
I refuse to screw people who honor their legal obligations and paid their college loans off.
You didn't the point behind the Emperor has no clothes parable, did you?
Ask what?
Absolutely agree with all you have said. Could not have said it myself.
Our civilization is collapsing and it was all preventable.
Gives a whole new meaning to the term "Dutch Treat".
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Collapsing?
How?
And the insanity prevails!
I don't know why anyone has their panties in a wad or is 'worked up into a furor' over something that has absolutely no effect on them in any way, shape, or form.
It's a trend that need not be trending.......................
Would you be upset if your daughter trained years for these contests, then the one that would get you to the big league was stolen by a dude?
I bet even you would be,
Lord, that's the truth!
No, it's not a trend
I mean this is in the Netherlands.
What do you care?
Can you name another trans who won a contest, or even participated in them in the 80s or 90s?
You have no clue about what I would do or feel or think in ANY situation. Don't speak for me.
I repeat it's not a trend.
I repeat, this is in the Netherlands.
What do you care?
I saw what you wrote.
Why not answer my question?
Yes, it is well established that you are repeating yourself, and no one is arguing that you aren't.
Well, I care because trans are infringing on women's rights. I guess that makes me a feminist.
Why don't you care?
Just how long? With all the trans bullshit in sports, do you think this will just go away too?
I don't know about you, but I care about women and their self esteem and being able to accomplish what they work and try so hard for in life. That you don't seem to says a lot.
And what do you care if I care. That would go in the "nunya" category. Nunya damned business.
Looks like 'womens' rights' is only a legitimate issue if the people suppressing them isn't a trans.
Again, who gives a shit?
If you choose to get your panties into a wad and work yourself into a furor over something that has absolutely no effect on you whatsoever, go for it.
I repeat, this is in The Netherlands.
They're obviously more open minded than you.
Why the fuck should I care?
They're not infringing on anyone's rights.
All what 'trans bullshit in sports'?
I think NOW wants your membership card back now.
It says nothing about me whatsoever.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Men pretending to be women participating in a women's event aren't taking opportunities away from real women or anything.
Nothing to see here, just women being forced to play second fiddle to someone pretending to be a woman.
Oh, yeah.
/s
Sorry, I thought you were a woman and might be at least mildly interested in women's rights.
To to answer Texan's question - NO. You CAN'T name name another trans who won a contest, or even participated in them in the 80s or 90s
Yeah, but hey, we are being told that this isn't a trend!
LOL!
Acceptance is the trend, that should continue to trend . . . . . . . . . .
Acceptance that men should participate n women's events now?
No thanks!
Just like parachute pants and breakdancing.
You being here and commenting on the article certainly would lead one to think that maybe you do care or you wouldn't be here wasting your time trying so desperately to convince others you don't.
If you look above you'll see that a conservative has posted that a beauty contest winner is "the paragon of womanhood". I challenge you to out-superficial that.
There is the post.
Please do quote the exact part that said what you claimed it did.
You offer the quote @7 from a conservative who (in this context) posted that a beauty contest winner is "the paragon of womanhood". Just as JumpDrive noted.
What is JumpDrive supposed to do to make this clearer to you?
Interesting.
On my end, what I see is this specifically:
I take that as him referring to all men pretending to be women, maybe on your end it shows different quote.
Well, I guess he could just do as I asked--provide the part where it says what he claimed.
Problem?
There is a difference between acceptance and capitulation.
You inserted 'all'.
The phrase "we get men pretending to be women" implies (to most English literate individuals) the modifier "some", not "all".
For example, "in the summertime, people wear shorts" does not mean ALL people wear shorts in the summertime but rather that SOME do (i.e. shorts are worn more often by people in the summertime).
Further, JumpDrive @1.3.26 was speaking of the "paragon of womanhood" claim:
So you are not even on the correct aspect of the quote.
Why, yes, yes I did!
WTF do you think I meant when I posted:
I stand by y accurate post and am in no mood for an English lesson from you.
I know what he wrote and understood it.
I wish you could make the same claim about my post.
Yeah, Texan, you admit that you (absurdly) inserted "all". That changes the meaning entirely.
The phrase "people wear shorts in the summer" does not mean ALL people wear shorts in the summer. It means SOME do.
Similarly, the phrase "we get men pretending to be women" means that SOME men pretend to be women. It does not mean that ALL men pretend to be women.
You keep writing that "I admit it".
When the hell have I ever denied it?
NOPE
Rather amazingly, some folks can read my very simple statement and realize that I was specifically referring to 'all men pretending to be women' and are astute enough to know it did not mean that all men pretend to be women but is clearly referencing all those men who pretend to be women............
Yeah, Texan, people are astute enough to see through your bullshit.
And also your deflections. The main issue that Jumpdrive brought up was with the phrase "paragon of womanhood" from which, of course, you continue to deflect:
You can't prove that any more than you can prove I deflected.
How lame.
Get a clue.
That's literally what these contests are for.
From Encylopedia.com:
From the song:
The winner is literally supposed to represent the ideal woman.
I doubt that logic will be met receptively here.
But it could spark a whole 'nother debate!
I don't know what they imagine pageants are.
Used to.
Nowadays, maybe not so much if a man can win!
Exactly, being an actual woman isn't relevant to being the ideal progressive woman. A man can do it. Actual females are now irrelevant to the concept of womanhood. Men can apparently do it better.
YEP
Just consider putting words in your mouth that you never said an invitation down a rabbit hole.
I personally consider those cheap tactics to be an admission that they can't really debate what we say, but only what they invent.
I find it to be intellectually lazy, morally bankrupt, and a slimy tactic that is outright lying.
Not to mention boring. It is the go to tactic for a few people here. They go straight to it and seem to think the tactic is not noticed.
By who's definition?
Well, how about the Miss Universe Pageant's own website?
And:
I trust that suffices.
I don't know why you take the time to deal with certain bullshit. It must be quite exasperating. I don't know why I even respond to certain members.
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No one does.
Don't expect a reasonable answer.
No, that would be wishful thinking!
Since I assume no one is forcing you I would suggest you give it some thought. No one wants you to so something you don't want to do.
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I thought you were a woman too
In addition...............
The radical left's push to replace women with men continues.
Just wait for the swimsuit competition. It's going to be nuts.
And "she" is just plain fucking ugly.
Lol!
I actually have zero problem with this.
A group of fake women were beaten by a man pretending to be a fake woman. There is some level of poetic justice in there somewhere.
The only people more sad than people who enter beauty pageants are people who don't enter but care who wins.
Those are good points. Imagine spending your life in some vane attempt to be the prettiest woman in the world only to be beaten by someone born with a dick. The only thing more fucked up than that is that there are a lot of people who want to force this person to use the men’s restroom, because “he” could be a threat to their daughters.
"I absolutely despair—why do the REAL females agree to take part & then stand there clapping like trained seals?!"
Until biological women refuse to participate in these types of events, the insanity will continue.
He is a he and never a she, forever and for aways. So he should use the proper restroom. And yes, there are numerous reports of women and girls being threatened and harrassed.
The left's support of these sick fucks in amazing.
He is a he and never a she, forever and for aways. So he should use the proper restroom. And yes, there are numerous reports of women and girls being threatened and harrassed.
The left's support of these sick fucks in amazing.
Lol! You want this “lady” in the restroom with your daughters?!
Really? He is trans .
I do love the endless willingness of bleeding hearts to ignore any possible outcome other than the one they want. It never seems to occur to those folks that the trans people may not be the primary threat. They never seem to want to acknowledge that other people might take advantage of a situation.
Seeing that 1 in 6 American women will be sexually assaulted at some point in their lives, it seems a bit reckless to make things easier for those assailants just because we're worried about trans people's feelings.
It is not that bad. She does not have a working penis so it doesn't really matter.
You mean she.
So you want “she” to follow your daughter into the little girl’s room?
You have made those claim before but never showed any real proof that the two are the same person.
Anyone can post a picture of a woman and another a picture of a dude, but having two pictures does not make it so.
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I posted a link with that picture, so it’s not just a picture, and he’s not an anomaly. I have a trans family member that I guarantee you would not know is trans. You just don’t want to admit that not every trans person is obvious. I bet by now you have met a dozen people who fit that category.
She can't really do anything. She doesn't have the correct working parts. Better than a he that thinks he is a she walking into my daughter's bathroom or locker room.
If this person is truly a female, then there is no way to really know for sure.
It is a big difference between this person and a dude with an obvious wig and makeup....and a deep male voice.
It’s always such a challenge to separate a conservative from their conspiracy theory.
Trans people are just the next boogie man in the right wing hate machine.
Most conservatives do not care about trannies. Be what you want to be.
It's those that thrust themselves into the limelight for attention and demand that they are accepted and respected by everyone, then when you are not, you throw a public hissy fit, or physically threaten someone with harm.There is a recent video of a tranny in London flying an Antifa flag telling everyone to punch a feminist. That one needs it's ass kicked. ...
Those are the ones that give the ones that want to live their lives quietly a bad name.
Yet here you all are day after day with this...
Show me where I am here day after day with this.
The rest of this thread was removed for a massive slap fight. It better stop. Only warning.
Those being threatened and harassed and sexually assaulted - are being threatened and harassed and sexually assaulted by straight people, not trans people.
It is as Thomas says elsewhere, it's the trans folks who need protection from threats and harassment and sexual assault, not straight people.
I bet you 'can't do anything' either
You are correct Ender, as usual.
That just goes to show you how intolerant the 'right wing hate machine' is
Are you the one to give 'it' it's ass kicking?
How tolerant of you.
Plus I'm sure you have proof (something you never provide) and this is indicative of all trans people,
These got to be some pretty insecure people!
Speaking of ironic outcomes, this morning I saw this article about the risks of penis implants.
Two men said they’d needed a second surgery to replace their implants when complications arose, and one continued to volunteer as a patient advocate even though he’d had his Extra Extra Large removed. He explained: “It was very uncomfortable for my wife. She was getting microtears and was considering getting a procedure done to enlarge that opening.”
Apparently his wife was considering artificial enlargement of her vagina to fit her husband’s artificially large penis.
You can't make this up.
Where did we find these people? I don't remember people being this utterly batshit when I was younger. Was that a thing and I just missed it?
Thanks Hal, very scary article you embedded.
I feel bad for those driven to this risk and expense.
If the pageant stands by president he will never make it to the contest
The runner up should sue.
The runner up is probably named Tom!
Some Nether Regions are more confusing than the Neverlands.
The ideal woman is now a man, as progressives simply try to erase actual females.
That comment is still as ridiculous as the first time it was made.
Could it be that if they don't have a set of balls, they need their women to?
Apparently.
We should have pageants for gender nonconforming transgender to avoid leaving them out,
Great idea!
Well, transgenders, get on it already!
Host your own pageants!
They already do.
Really wish I didn't know this type of information; but Apple News seems to think it is relevant and sticks it on my I phone.
Not only is it a him but an ugly him. Why do so many democrats hate women? They are making a mockery of being a women.