Biden's lead over Trump shrinks to 9 points in NY
By: Carl Campanile (New York Post)
"In cobalt blue NY"
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
President Biden has just a nine-point edge over Donald Trump in a new poll of deep-blue New York, a state he won by 23 points in 2020, according to a new Siena College survey.
Biden, 80, had enjoyed a 21-point lead over the Republican front-runner in a September poll by the upstate college, but a new poll released Tuesday found the Democratic incumbent was only ahead by 46% to 37% in a head-to-head matchup against Trump, 77.
His lead further shrank to seven points over Trump — who is accused of 91 felonies — when third-party candidates Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Cornell West were added to the equation, the survey found.
Biden's diminished lead is less than a third of his margin of victory in 2020, when he beat Trump 61% to 38% in the Empire State.
Political strategist Hank Sheinkopf calling Biden's diminished lead in a state where Democrats outnumber Republicans by more than 2 to 1 "shocking."
"If Biden is in trouble in one of the bluest states, imagine what's happening in the rest of the country," Sheinkopf said.
Biden had seen his support in New York plummet in October due to the migrant crisis, pollsters found.Getty Images
"It's a clear message to the Democrats. If it ain't working in New York, don't take the show on the road."
The new poll found Biden's popularity with his base has been weighed down by the migrant crisis at the southern border, which has led to more than 130,000 asylum seekers coming through New York City since last spring.
"Voters are angry. It's the migrants, the economy. People don't think Biden is strong enough to handle the challenges. This is not good news for Democrats in New York state," Sheinkopf said.
Despite being under four indictments, Donald Trump has seen his popularity surge of late in his home state.Steven Hirsch
"This is a wake-up alarm," said former Staten Island and Brooklyn Rep. Max Rose, a Democrat.
"This is a wake-up bullhorn. The Biden administration and Democrats have to show they can effectively and humanely manage the migrant issue or face serious election consequences."
Sixty-five percent of New Yorkers said the US was headed in the wrong direction under the president and 55% of state residents had an unfavorable view of Biden, the poll said, about a percentage point more that his reported national disapproval rating.
"I knew Biden was the problem when I read he visited New York City and didn't even acknowledge the migrant problem. How can you ignore a problem when it's right in your face?," Robert, a 32-year-old tax preparer, told The Post at Brooklyn's Atlantic Terminal.
"He's king of denial and I would rather not vote at all than vote him back in," he continued.
The last GOP candidate to win New York's electoral votes was Ronald Reagan in 1984. Republicans did manage to flip four House seats in the state last year as former Rep. Lee Zeldin ran a competitive race for governor against the incumbent Democrat, Gov. Kathy Hochul.
Siena College surveyed 1,225 registered voters in the state between October 15 and 19.
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Oh oh. You know people are pissed when the race tightens by this much in this state.
Biden is scaring the crap out of people. And it's about to hit the fan.
Very serious question, Nerm. Why, in your opinion, is Trump then NOT scaring the crap out of people?
He might be scaring the crap out of you for whatever reason, but he's not scaring us people with sense.
Personally, I don't have a lot of patience or sympathy for any American who chooses to be afraid of their president.
IMO people see Trump as a blowhard and windbag so isn't someone to be taken literally. Trump is more entertainer than serious politician.
IMO that explains why Democrats have only elevated Trump. Democrats take Trump literally which means their outrage is as overblown as Trump, himself. Trump, himself, is fake so outrage over literal Trump would also be fake. It's like snickering about people who debate satire.
And if he wins the presidency? Does that not matter?
Trump is more entertainer than serious politician.
To be an entertainer you need to be entertaining, not a loathsome pig.
he's not the president and as far as I'm concerned, never was
Why do you promote Donald Trump? Are you fond of traitors?
Read it again. I am "promoting" the fact that Biden is being exposed for his inaction when it comes to the border and people are pissed. It isn't always about fucking Trump John. Well except for you.....................
I am not going to go wishy washy with you. People who repeat and post articles that Biden is faltering against Trump, in the absence of any anti-Trump articles on their part, are promoting the candidacy of Donald Trump. Period, end of story.
Unless you want to point to all the articles (or any) you have seeded that are anti-Trump.
Joe is incompetent to handle inflation.
Response: MAGA supporter
Joe has failed on the border.
Response: Right wing fascist
Joe is senile and no longer able to execute the office of president
Response: SO you are a a trump supporter and a traitor?
It is both pathetic and so predictable. Just once something original would be nice.
How about you point to all the articles you have seeded that promote all the positives of Biden.....other than he is not Trump.
And it wasn't about faltering against Trump. It is about faltering PERIOD.
1. I may do that.
2. All he needs is to be not Trump, not a traitor, and not a pathological liar.
A large part of America will never accept Trump as president again, that ship sailed on Jan 6th and everything else that happened after the 2020 election. Putting a traitor back in office would tear the country apart. Throw him 100% under the bus and then we can talk about other things.
That comment just shows how deluded MAGA are.
The seeded article is , specifically, about a poll showing Trump doing better against Biden than expected in NY state. .
Are you happy that Trump is doing better against Biden than expected, and if so why are you promoting a traitor?
Again, that is your interpretation driven by TDS. It is NOT that Trump is doing better. It is that Biden is doing worse. Period, paragraph, end of fucking story.
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No, it just shows how deluded and ignorant Biden supporters are. They seem to be in total denial of reality.
Exactly!!! SMMFH
Or maybe vacationed at the beach while (rome) Jerusalem burned.
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Of course I havent said or posted anything favorable to Trump. He is the most unqualified presidential candidate, or president, in the 247 year history of our country. I knew that in 2015 . Why would I say something complimentary to him?
This is how you choose to defend the double standard you seem to support regarding Trump vacations vs. Biden vacations - preemptively calling anybody who notices an idiot?
That is neither civil nor honest.
I'm sorry did trump vacation while one of our allies were under attack?
And no matter where i look i can't find a place where i care what you think about my comments.
He was at Mar-A-Lago when WE were under attack.
Did he return to the White House? I mean, some people here seem to think that unless POTUS is in the WH, he's not dealing with a crisis. Somehow, those crises can't be addressed from Delaware, but can from Florida, so long as it's a Trump property. Never mind that they call out Biden for taking vacation, but never bother to call out Trump for taking multiple vacations that lined his own pockets when he said he wouldn't take any.
The double standards are blatant. And calling anybody who notices a double standard an idiot is a weak attempt to squelch criticism of those double standards. It's a childish, nasty, dishonest attempt at silencing the other side of the debate.
Please name one "crisis" that happened under Trump's watch that found him in Florida.
Thanks
Did you read the linked article?
How many times was he in Florida during Covid? A pandemic is a crisis.
Congrats, he was AT Mar-A-Lago when we were attacked in Iraq, FFS deflection fail. he didn't go on vacation while we were being attacked. Biden is a piece of senile shit who has no business being president. but continue to deflect away, the only person you are embarrassing is yourself.
Plus after the attack trump executed the mastermind behind it with a drone attack.
Biden is trying to not choke on his ice cream while sitting on the beach? he is as worthless as his supporters.
WTH? What did you expect him to do to eradicate Covid? And comparing that to current events and unrest worldwide is disingenuous at best. It's not like he had to be briefed on it every hour.
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So? Shouldn't he have returned to the WH to handle an attack on the US? Or are you only going to hold Biden to that standard, while engaging in childish name-calling and lies about Biden and his supporters?
Come on dude, you don't expect trump to be held to the same standard as a senile old fool do you?
What do you expect Biden to do about the ME that can't be done from Delaware? To support a double standard is disingenuous.
Attempting to compare Biden and Trump, relating to how “present” and available they were as POTUS, is a fools errand. Look no further than pressers given.
Using the discussion here, both were out of touch at times but Biden got his nickname “basement Biden” for a reason.
And it’s not even close. No matter how hard some of you here try to rationalize that it is.
Your blatant partisanship blinds you to the fallacy of your position.
Pressers given?
Hell, the Trump WH stopped giving regular press briefings. Trump was as likely to give a "presser" via Twitter as any other way.
The WH is in DC where all of the resources are readily available to make decisions and suggestions. Would you expect his staff to travel to Delaware to meet in his garage and call it the situation room?
Is Mar-A-Lago in DC, Jim? When a US embassy is under attack, are those same things not true?
Double standards.
That is for sure and the country sees it.
I don't care.
WTF is he going to do there? Take photos with illegal aliens like they're war refugees?
Any possible solutions to that problem are in DC.
However they require a spine, which does not exist on the left wing, and a brain, which does not exist on the right wing... so they're not going to happen.
So he and AOC can both fuck off with their staged photo shoots.
Sigh, your post is intellectually dishonest and everyone can see it, Trump was already at Mar-A-Lago. Biden chose to go on vacation at the beach, there is a fundamental difference.
All here can see who's supporting double standards here, Vic. It's those angry at Biden for vacationing, whole attempting to prevent mention of Trump vacationing.
Can you imagine a Trump appointed AG investigating both Biden and Trump.
Air Force One can't fly from Mar-A-Lago to DC during a weeks-long crisis? Even though DC is, if we go by your comments, where POTUS needs to be if our allies are under attack (but not when We are under attack)?
Ok.
Makes perfect sense.
Imagine running for DA on the slogan "I'll get Trump."
Is this about Biden's vacations?
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Another lie, exactly how long did the attack on the embassy last? It sure as fuck wasn't weeks
Running on the slogan is less fucked up than winning on that slogan.
Wrong. First google search
Try again
No. We were attacked for weeks, first in Baghdad, then at military bases in Iraq, then more rockets were fired at our embassy on the 26th of January. This was an ongoing response to US air strikes.
I said the White House.
Do you think it's normal to go 300 days without a WH press briefing?
Do you deny that Trump did most of his communication via Twitter?
I mean, even after we were attacked while he was (and remained for several days) at Mar-A-Lago, his first remarks to the US people were made on his phone, not at a press briefing.
Good for you. I was talking Presidential press conferences and you know it.
Do you deny that Biden has communicated significantly less with his public than Trump did while president?
Biden communicates via the WH press secretary, which is hardly surprising, given that he has a lifelong speech impediment. Trump still communicated more via Twitter than in person, and whether in person or by social media, often delivered unintelligible or just plain incorrect messages, although he does not have a diagnosed speech impediment.
And he seems to get a pass from some for governing from his Florida vacation home, while those same folks criticize Biden for going as far away as Delaware, but get spicy when folks dare to notice the double standard.
Doesn't seem to have one when he is reading off of the teleprompter. That is a pretty lame excuse.
So it is your learned opinion that he does not have a speech impediment?
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English expresses an idea. There are many syntactic ways to express a single idea.
So, Jim stated that Biden does not seem to have a speech impediment when reading off the teleprompter. He used that as a rebuttal to Sandy's point about Biden having a lifelong speech impediment.
See? He was arguing that Sandy's comment was bullshit / lame.
To clear things up, I asked Jim to be clear and state if he believes Biden has a speech impediment or not.
Got it?
From your ucla link................
" “It’s a debilitating situation,” Biden said at a February event . “And I still occasionally, when I find myself really tired, catch myself (stuttering).”
Nothing about it being a constant hinderance.
And from Snopes...................
" In a February 2020 CNN town hall, Biden disclosed the impediment still affects him from time to time "when I find myself really tired." He told the audience that the condition "has nothing to do with your intelligence quotient [and] has nothing to do with your intellectual makeup."
Moving the goalposts? You now demand that his condition must be a constant hinderance; that every moment of his life he must be subjected to it or it is not relevant?
Do you or do you not see how a speech impediment can be problematic for a public speaker and why someone with that condition would take steps to communicate in ways that do not always require real time public speech??
The speech impediment need not be with him continuously for it to encourage his use of alternate means of communicating.
It's not relevant as an excuse for not addressing his public. I am not the one who used it as an excuse for his bumbling. That is on someone else's shoulders. And I "demanded" nothing
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I see what they mean now.
Stuttered that wrong.
Of course, all Presidents do. That’s not the point.
Biden has done it less in person because he simply has trouble communicating effectively. You’d have to be blind, deaf and/or dumb to not recognize it.
This is not that complicated
You've never proven that, because you cannot. The former 'president' said that, not James.
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Because he has worked hard to suppress it. You do know that it can be accomplished, with varying degrees of difficulty, yes?
Trump has not been judged to be a traitor, nor is he being charged as one. Your labeling game is weak and pointless.
But if he is elected again, it's the total fault of the Democrats for having installed a decrepit and senile POS and attempting to pass him off as leader of the free world.
Recently, Trump was asked by Kristin Welker of Meet The Press, "what were you doing in the Oval office during the attack on the Capitol" ?
Trump replied "I'm not going to tell you that".
He cant tell anyone that because he was cheering on the rioters.
Of course he is a traitor.
'Traitor' is not a legal determination. It is a characterization, much like 'liar' or 'narcissist'. When one labels another a 'traitor' there should be a supporting argument. JR has made that argument countless times ... to utterly deaf ears.
Utter bullshit. Take responsibility for your party. The GOP (and you have stated that you will follow suit) is likely to nominate Trump for PotUS. Trump will be the GOP's nominee and thus the fault lies with them and then with everyone who votes for Trump in the general.
The D's are at fault for not encouraging Biden to step down. They will be at fault for nominating him.
And thus we are stuck having to choose between a man who is way too past his prime to be PotUS and a traitor (and possibly a convicted felon as well).
Make your argument for why Biden is a traitor. We all know he is a liar.
Oh, we have to wait for Merrick Garland and his special prosecutor to find out.
Let us wait for the facts to come in / S
They even have a check to Biden. The very thing the dems demanded.
Then all you need is circumstantial evidence.
Clearly, you should then be well past the point of recognizing that Trump is a traitor. Right? Do you recognize that Trump is a traitor?
You do not comprehend that there are differences in the degree and volume of lying?
For example, do you see the difference between lying about Corn Pop and lying about the the US electoral system being rigged and that the newly elected PotUS is illegitimate?
Do you see a difference between a lying politician and a pathological liar who predictably will lie multiple times in every public statement he makes?
Direct questions, ignored as usual.
Do you recognize that Trump is a traitor?
For example, do you see the difference between lying about Corn Pop and lying about the the US electoral system being rigged and that the newly elected PotUS is illegitimate?
Do you see a difference between a lying politician and a pathological liar who predictably will lie multiple times in every public statement he makes?
Biden and Trump are simply two sides of the same coin, they are both equally bad.
But Biden is far worse when it comes down to handling the serious global problems we have today.
That's an inconvenient truth for those that are blindly partisan and partial to the failed and failing polices of the hard left.
Except none of what you say is true, mere projection.
Your PD&D and delusion game is weak and pointless.
There is no comparing the character and treasonous behavior of Trump to any other PotUS in our history.
Are my questions @2.2.12 too difficult to address?
I will make it even easier. If you are satisfied that Biden is a traitor based on the circumstantial evidence we have, then you must be convinced that Trump is a traitor.
Do you recognize that Trump is a traitor?
The former is a subset of the latter.
A novel way to run away from direct questions.
Your extraordinary tactic to not answer a direct question that flows from your comment pretty much determines that you realize, by your own logic, if Biden is a traitor (in your eyes by circumstantial evidence alone) then there is absolutely no question that Trump is a traitor.
But, of course, fellow conservatives are watching so you must flee the question.
Your non-answer is an answer.
You have effectively stated that every lying politician (subset) is a pathological liar who predictably will lie multiple times in every public statement (superset).
That is incorrect. Immediately:
This leaves the following correction to your point: Every lying politician is a liar.
The word 'politician' is superfluous so the net statement is: Every lying individual is a liar.
Yeah, well as you oft say, the math does not work.
Everything you place in X is necessarily ALSO in Y.
Do you remember a conversation we had not long ago where I attempted to explain that language isn't always intended literally? Remember how "groovy" doesn't really mean "full of grooves"?
When you post a comment that attempts to refute or dilute one of mine and the comment is flawed, expect that I will issue a rebuttal.
I'm running out of facepalms at this point.
I am sure you can figure out a solution for your problem.
Maybe you can Venn diagram one for me.
Or I could lend you the facepalms that I chose to not deliver on your posts.
You definitely should have used them.
A facepalm response to a joke would have been much less embarrassing than the path you chose.
There is no need for me to be embarrassed by pointing out your failure to hold true to the definition of a subset in your 'joke'.
The reality is that a lying politician (Biden) is not necessarily a pathological liar who predictably will lie multiple times in every public statement (Trump). The former is mild compared to the latter.
Not funny, because your 'joke' was logically incorrect and not taken as funny by me since you were trying to dismiss my point.
Loan me one of those facepalms. I've run out again.
See, I have a great joke about Jesus and Moses playing golf.
But I'm a wee bit concerned you're going to try to explain (and graph) how Jesus and Moses weren't actually contemporaries and that both died centuries before golf was invented.
Well... some of your replies are fuckin' hilarious.
I wonder how much more time you will spend in this futile attempt to pretend you did not confuse the concept of a subset in your attempt to dismiss my point.
Riiiight...... The guy with the college degree in mathematics somehow doesn't understand the definition of "subset".... Yeah. That's exactly what's happening.
You missed a joke. It wasn't even noteworthy until you diagrammed it, which made it fucking hilarious.
Seriously... lighten up a bit. I'm laughing with you or at you. The choice is yours.
No, the guy with a degree in Mathematics made a mistake with a fundamental mathematical concept. Normally I would ignore it, but not when you are trying to dismiss my point.
A joke that was not funny since it was logically incorrect. The members of a subset are necessarily members of a superset.
I am not laughing; I am instead watching you play a little game of pretending that you did not confuse the concept of a subset in your attempt to dismiss my point.
You keep trying and all I am doing is responding to your attempts.
Give it a fucking rest TiG. You, along with a couple others, are not convincing anyone and it is futile fucking badgering at best.
Your comment would have credibility if you had addressed it to both Jack and myself. He is driving the attack; I am responding.
So let's see if you can direct this back to Trump and Biden.
Do you think Biden is a traitor?
Do you think Trump is a traitor?
Because that's exactly how humor works.
I sure as hell am. It's getting funnier by the post.
Logically confused ‘humor’ is not funny.
Apparently
The fact that Biden is losing ground to Trump, in a pure blue like NY state speaks volumes.
Regardless of the opinions and rationalizations being pushed here by some.
Any supposition that all the people making that happen in NY, are simply not as “intelligent” as the triggered here on NTers, is simply ridiculous.