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The left will roil the US if Donald Trump beats Joe Biden

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  last year  •  50 comments

By:   richlowry (New York Post)

The left will roil the US if Donald Trump beats Joe Biden
Given what happens after 2016, expect more violence and screaming from the US left is Donald Trump beats Joe Biden in the 2024 election.

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We are about to embark on what might be one of the wildest years in the history of American politics, and it may end up merely a prelude.

If 2024 is set to be tumultuous and unpredictable, just wait until 2025 if Donald Trump wins the presidency again this year.

His adversaries don't have a history of accepting his victories with equanimity.

Trump's unexpected victory in 2016 launched conspiracy theories about how Russia had helped him win; catalyzed a years-long law enforcement investigation into him and his campaign based on those theories; and set off protests in the streets.

All that was mild, given what may yet be in the offing.

Trump's opponents are sincerely, and to some extent understandably, alarmed by his conduct after the 2020 election and how he's branded his political comeback a revenge tour.

For most of them, though, saving democracy doesn't mean upholding the rules no matter what and letting the voters decide the election and the next president.

House Majority Whip Tom Emmer threw his support behind Donald Trump (above) for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. REUTERS

No, it means blocking Trump by any means necessary, regardless of the consequences for the rule of law, democratic politics, or faith in our system of government.

In this view, democracy has only one legitimate outcome, and it doesn't involve Donald Trump back at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Some Democrats deserve minimal credit for distancing themselves from the Colorado and Maine decisions striking Trump from the ballot and arguing that the right way to defeat Trump is via the voting booth, although this isn't much of a concession.

What's already happened has put the country in an unprecedented place.

It's hard to imagine what's more extreme than one side in our politics indicting its leading opponent, creating the real prospect of jailing him in the months before an election and excluding him from the ballot in select states.

Yet if Trump wins, we have to assume this is only a taste of things to come.

It's not as though his enemies are going to conclude that Trump was an intolerable threat as a candidate, but once he's been elected president again, the voters have spoken and everyone should revert to politics as usual.

The Washington Post ran a long, much-discussed essay by the respected foreign policy writer Robert Kagan arguing that Trump has brought the United States to the brink of dictatorship.

If he returns to power, "the price of opposing him becomes persecution, the loss of property and possibly the loss of freedom."

This dire view depends on every institutional bulwark of America's system — from the courts to the military to public opinion — surrendering to a one-term president who, if history is any guide, will get rebuked in the midterms and become a lame duck by his third year in office.

But if tyranny is where you think we are headed, what's the appropriate response?

Running anti-Trump super PAC ads this year? Canvassing for President Biden? Going on CNN panels to sound very concerned?

In other words, all the standard means of political organization and persuasion?

And if Trump emerges victorious and the alleged dictatorship is underway in earnest?

Certainly, the reaction will make the pro-Hamas protests that have roiled college campuses and disrupted transportation nodes around the country look small-scale by comparison.

If the republic is supposedly on the verge of falling, extralegal means of resistance are justified.

At least some portion of the left will convince itself that only a color revolution can save the country.

During the 2016 Trump-Clinton contest, one school of Trump supporters posited that it was the "Flight 93 election" — possibly the last chance to save the country.

The consequences of failure were so awful that anything was justified to win.

Now that's the way the left feels, except Trump won his Flight 93 election, and Joe Biden could well lose his.

If so, there will be much to fear from democracy's self-styled defenders.

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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    last year

Get ready to rumble if this happens. And we know all the liars won't leave the US if it happens. Drama Queens every one LOL

 
 
 
George
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1.1  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    last year

It will be like the crash of 29, we may see liberal pundits jumping from their windows, good thing most live in their Moms basement so they shouldn't get hurt too badly.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @1.1    last year

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Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    last year

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Tessylo
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1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    last year

This article is not true - President Biden did not indict the former 'president'.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.3    last year

Plus if the former 'president' does see jail time, and it most likely will, it has nothing whatsoever to do with Democrats - it has to with justice

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.3.2  goose is back  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.1    last year
nothing whatsoever to do with Democrats - it has to with justice

Sure and the Biden's made over 20 Million because they................tell me what they did again?

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
1.3.3  SteevieGee  replied to  goose is back @1.3.2    last year
tell me what they did again?

Tell me.  What did they do?

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
1.3.5  SteevieGee  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.4    last year

Ok.  You don't know what they did and "Bidens" are whom?

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
1.3.7  SteevieGee  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.6    last year

I know who the President is.  Why are you referring to him in the plural?  Are you a they/them Texans?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.3.8  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  SteevieGee @1.3.7    last year

Think of his brother and Hunter. Thus plural.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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1.3.9  SteevieGee  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.3.8    last year

His brother and Hunter are not government employees and I don't give a rat's butt about either of them.  The President isn't responsible for their affairs.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  SteevieGee @1.3.9    last year

Oh yes, Joe is responsible for his own corruption.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.3.11  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  SteevieGee @1.3.9    last year

He was referring to all of them. You asked, I answered. 

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.3.12  goose is back  replied to  SteevieGee @1.3.9    last year
His brother and Hunter are not government employees and I don't give a rat's butt about either of them. 

Well maybe you should open your eyes and ask questions why relatives of the Vice President(now President) have received over 20 million dollars for doing nothing.   

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.3.13  bugsy  replied to  goose is back @1.3.12    last year
Well maybe you should open your eyes and ask questions why relatives of the Vice President(now President) have received over 20 million dollars for doing nothing.   

Well, they did use Joe as leverage, Joe knew it and did nothing to stop it.

That is grounds for bribery charges and impeachment

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    last year

If it does happen, I imagine the hard core  liberal left will try to do everything possible or imaginable to discredit the results while screaming fraud/foul.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    last year

Rich Lowry, who has been a human yo-yo on the subject of Trump for the past 9 years , is an embarrassment to America. 

Rich Lowry is well aware that Trump tried to steal the 2020 election. He is well aware that Trump is completely unfit for office, for dozens of reasons. 

BUT, when he sees a chance to berate "the left" he will jump at it. 

The next time Trump says something idiotic and un American Lowry will criticize him, and then soon after will go back to acting "indifferent" about Trump. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    last year

Can only imagine what the resistance will be up to this time.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    last year

What 'was the resistance up to last time'?

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.1  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @3.1    last year

We are living through that golden moment where the gop actually believes Trump has an actual chance, singular! The gop be all like.

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Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @3.1.1    last year

Exactly, the polling is way wrong.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    last year

It will start on Jan 6th (get it) when Biden condemns MAGA from Valley Forge. That will be the day the left suddenly wraps itself in the American flag and associates itself with George Washington, whom they spent three years calling a "racist slave owner," and tells people that Donald Trump tried to steal the election. That is all they have to campaign on....Trump, Trump and more Trump.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.2.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    last year

Democrats want to run against Trump and whoop him, again...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    last year

Sure will.  Of course Biden won't mention the report on racism in the military his administration buried:

     Recall 2021... when the Biden FBI deployed   counterterrorism resources   against concerned parents who showed up at school board meetings, and Gen. Mark Milley told     Congress that he wanted "to understand   White rage " one month after an enraged father was   dragged out   of a Loudon County, Virginia school board meeting after              his   daughter was raped by a transgender boy   in the girl's bathroom - which the school board then covered up.

Loudoun County dad Scott Smith dragged out of school woke board meeting & found guilty of disorderly conduct/resisting arrest reveals his daughter was 'raped' in the girls' bathroom by a 'skirt-wearing' boy who was arrested for a 2nd girl later. & School WOKE Board COVERED IT UP.   pic.twitter.com/odjuzYniQz
— 🇺🇸Robert.N🇺🇸 (@Rob_Noorollah)   October 13, 2021

Remember that?

And instead of addressing the concerns of millions of angry parents who had woken up to a nationwide phenomenon of mentally ill schoolteachers, critical race theory / DEI indoctrination, and transgender boys crushing the dreams of female athletes,   the Biden administration turned the whole thing into a 'white rage' problem caused by extremist Trump supporters.

In December of 2021,  the Pentagon furthered the 'white rage' narrative , warning that 'extremism' within the ranks was on the rise, which would require 'detailed new rules' to prohibit service members from engaging in 'certain activities....'

According to the   Wall Street Journal , "Good news: The U.S. military isn’t packed with violent extremists."

That’s the gist of a new report commissioned by the Pentagon in 2021 and released quietly with little notice in December. The result won’t surprise Americans who have spent time in uniform, but   it should calm the media frenzy about right-wing radicals in the armed forces. After reports that some service members participated in the Jan. 6 riot,   Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin ordered an independent study to get “greater fidelity” on extremism in the ranks . The think tank tasked with the report, the Institute for Defense Analyses (IDA), “ found no evidence that the number of violent extremists in the military is disproportionate” to U.S. society.   A review of Pentagon data suggested “ fewer than 100 substantiated cases per year of extremist activity by members of the military in recent years ,” the report says.

The researchers found that "the prevalence of extremist and gang-related activity that are reflected in court-martial opinions is limited to fewer than 20 cases" since 2012, for example.

But Biden needs to stoke the fear of a white racist hiding under every pillow to pander to his supporters fantasies. He sure can't run on his accomplishments. 

 
 
 
JBB
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3.2.3  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.2    last year

You think Biden is who is causing our growing fears of rightwing extremism and increased incidents of white nationalist violence?

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JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.5  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.4    last year

Is that why Trump panders to racists, sexists, homophobes and other assorted throwbacks and misanthropes?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.2.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.6    last year

The more support Trump gains  and Biden loses among minorities  the shriller the Biden cult gets about only white racists supporting Trump.

  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @3.2.5    last year

When did he pander to Democrats and their supporters?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.2.9  MrFrost  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.4    last year

256

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.2.11  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    last year

We don't need to tell people that the former 'president' tried to steal the election with his incited failed coup/insurrection - we all saw it with our own eyes.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.13  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.11    last year

Or that the Democrats tried it from 2016 to, well, today.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.12    last year

But according to one high ranking idiot, it was worse than 9/11 or Pearl Harbor.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2.15  bugsy  replied to  JBB @3.2.5    last year
Is that why Trump panders to racists, sexists, homophobes and other assorted throwbacks and misanthropes?

Do you have any quotes to back up your claim?...and no "there is good people on both sides" is not legitimate, so trying to use it will fail. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.16  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @3.2.5    last year

So true.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.2.17  bugsy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.14    last year
one high ranking idiot,

I think in the Biden administration, high ranking means bigger idiot.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.18  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.2    last year

Correct.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.2.19  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  bugsy @3.2.17    last year

Good point.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.2.20  Ronin2  replied to  MrFrost @3.2.9    last year

Brandon was too busy taking "inappropriate showers" with his daughter.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year

256

 
 
 
Dragon
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5  Dragon    last year

On the other hand, what will Trump supporters do if Biden wins the election. We all know they will cry "fraud, stolen, rigged", in fact they are doing it already, but will they try another insurrection, or have they learned their lesson that Trump will never have their backs.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
5.1  Ronin2  replied to  Dragon @5    last year

Please learn the definition of insurrection.

Better still travel to a country where one is taking place and find out what it really is first hand.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
5.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Dragon @5    last year

And you honestly think Biden has people's backs? Get real and open your eyes!

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
5.2.1  SteevieGee  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.2    last year
And you honestly think Biden has people's backs? Get real and open your eyes!

If we were to storm the Capitol he wouldn't.  Do you think he should?  I don't.

 
 

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