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Nancy Pelosi Jan. 6 Footage Sparks MAGA Anger: 'Trump Was Right' - Newsweek

  
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Nancy Pelosi Jan. 6 Footage Sparks MAGA Anger: 'Trump Was Right' - Newsweek
A new video has emerged showing Nancy Pelosi talking about the National Guard on January 6.

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Multiple MAGA supporters have said they think new footage of Nancy Pelosi being evacuated during the January 6 riots proves "Trump was right" because in the clip she appears to be saying the National Guard should have been called at the start.

The fresh video has surfaced, which shows Pelosi inside the Capitol, after a mob of supporters of former President Donald Trump stormed the building in an attempt to stop Congress from certifying Joe Biden's 2020 election win.

Pelosi, who is wearing a COVID mask, can apparently be heard complaining that the National Guard had not been called and saying: "We've got to take responsibility."

The clip is part of some documentary footage that was turned over to the Republican-led House Committee on Administration this week, which has been seen by Newsweek.

The footage had been shot by Pelosi's daughter Alexandra, for an HBO film that was released in 2022.

A snippet of the clip has been circulated on social media multiple times, often reposted by conservative media personality Greg Price.


BREAKING: Never before seen footage of Pelosi on January 6 filmed by her daughter shows her admitting that its her fault that the Capitol wasn't secure.
"We're calling the National Guard now? They should have been here to start out."
"We have totally failed. We need to take… pic.twitter.com/OZQ2lUXU2M

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 28, 2024

The footage shows Pelosi, the then-House Speaker, being escorted from the House floor by security.

She appears to be saying: "If they stop the proceedings, they will have succeeded in stopping the validation of the President of the United States.

"How many times did the members ask, 'Are we prepared? Are we prepared?' We're not prepared for the worst.

"We're calling the National Guard, now? It should've been here to start out. I just don't understand it. Why do we empower people this way by not being ready?" She later adds: "We've got to take some responsibility."

Conservative media personality and comedian Tim Young posted this clip and wrote: "Trump was right … AGAIN. In this J6 footage, Pelosi admits it was HER FAULT that the Capitol was not secured."

Similarly, Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk said: "Pelosi failed on J6. She admits it in newly unearthed footage."

Commentator Behizy said: "We now have never-before-seen footage of Speaker Nancy Pelosi admitting the truth about January 6th. This is complete EXONERATION for Trump."

A spokesperson for Trump, Steven Cheung, told Newsweek: "Nancy Pelosi refused President Trump's offer of soldiers and National Guard to help secure the Capitol. In unearthed footage, she even admits she was responsible for the security failure."

Trump has long insisted that he offered thousands of National Guard troops to protect the Capitol on January 6, 2021, but he says this offer was rejected.

This has been denied by Pelosi and acting Defense secretary at that time Christopher Miller, who said as much during a 2022 interview with the Democratic-led House committee that investigated the attack.

Newsweek has contacted Pelosi via email for comment.

Her daughter Alexandra told The Hill: "Hope you appreciate the cinematography: backward and in heels! Now if you want context, go watch Pelosi in The House! Streaming now on HBO!"

Similar footage was revealed in June, where Pelosi was seen sitting in the back of a car making similar comments, such as: "We have to take responsibility."

At the time, she responded to this clip and how it was being used on MSNBC'sDeadline: White House.

She said: "The fact is that the president of the United States, the former president and his 'toties' do not want to face the facts. They're trying to do revisionist history on Jan. 6, but we cannot let us be dragged into their, again, false impression of what happened that day.

"They know what happened that day, they know how serious it is and was, and continues to have an impact on our country, and yet they want to call the people who were in there hostages."

Nancy Pelosi speaks during the Democratic National Convention on August 21 in Chicago. New footage has been released of Pelosi during the January 6 riots. Nancy Pelosi speaks during the Democratic National Convention on August 21 in Chicago. New footage has been released of Pelosi during the January 6 riots. AP

The Republican-led House Committee on Administration has been involved with investigations into January 6, trying to shift the blame previously laid at Trump's feet by the Democratic-led January 6th Select Committee.

Barry Loudermilk, who is Chairman of the Oversight Subcommittee within the House Committee on Administration, said: "For over three years, Nancy Pelosi has refused to take responsibility for her failure to secure the Capitol grounds on January 6, 2021.

"Instead, she has pushed the focus of the failure on President Trump. As Speaker, she controlled House operations and security on the House side of the Capitol—which she acknowledges in this HBO footage."

Newsweek has contacted former January 6 Committee Chairman Bennie G. Thompson and the U.S. House of Representatives for comment.


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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    2 months ago

The truth shall set you free.....................

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    2 months ago

A little late for that admission. She must be getting ready to write her memoirs.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    2 months ago
The truth shall set you free...

At least three times in recent weeks Trump, the 2024 Republican party nominee, has acknowledged that he lost in 2020 "by a whisker."

Trump quietly admits he lost 2020, enrages supporters (usatoday.com)

So, if Trump hadn't been lying January 6th would never have happened, but what happened is Pelosi's fault because she admitted they weren't prepared enough to handle the insurrectionists that Trump inspired with his lies and then, as commander and chief, chose to stay silent for hours watching it happen. This is why rational people don't trust conservatives, most are just sniveling worthless deplorable liars just like their Dear Leader.

If the truth will set you free, then clearly right-wing conservatives will remain captives of Donald Trump to be used like the sad gullible morons they are.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 months ago
At the time, she responded to this clip and how it was being used on MSNBC'sDeadline: White House. She said: "The fact is that the president of the United States, the former president and his 'toties' do not want to face the facts. They're trying to do revisionist history on Jan. 6, but we cannot let us be dragged into their, again, false impression of what happened that day.

So that " revisionist history" turns out to be actual history.  Imagine that, the democrats and left are wrong - AGAIN.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    2 months ago

The facts have finally rolled in.

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    2 months ago

A new grand jury has now indicted Trump on superseding charges for Jan 6th Insurrection... 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @3    2 months ago

Please.  It's same "indictment" that was shot down by Judge Cannon.  The difference is that the judge filed with is a friend of Smith.  How does Smith plan on dealing with his NON appointment as a special prosecutor?

And do you honestly think something will happen before 5 November?  

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1.1  Snuffy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1    2 months ago

I think you're wrong. I believe this is a modified indictment of the Jan 6th indictment that was initially set in the DC court and not the classified documents indictment from Florida. Smith has modified the indictment based on the SCOTUS ruling on presidential immunity.

Special counsel Jack Smith had to take a hammer to some parts of his election subversion case against former President Donald Trump after the Supreme Court’s sweeping ruling that Trump had at least some presidential immunity in the prosecution.

But with the superseding indictment handed up by a grand jury on Wednesday, prosecutors also used a scalpel to reshape their allegations, making subtle edits, along with big changes.

Trump’s infamous Rose Garden video from January 6, 2021 – and the efforts by others leading up to it to convince to Trump he needed to tell the Capitol rioters to leave – has been removed from the indictment. Smith, however, has added new details about Congress’ certification process and what role Vice President Mike Pence was playing in it, in attempt to bolster other aspects of the case.

How Jack Smith edited the Trump election meddling indictment to try to appease the Supreme Court | CNN Politics

But there's no way this gets to trial before the elections. With a new indictment there's way too much for attorneys to iron out before any court date can realistically be set and the judge will need to weigh in on how much can actually be used in a trial based on the SCOTUS ruling.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.1    2 months ago
I believe this is a modified indictment of the Jan 6th indictment

A modified indictment brought about by the "special prosecutor" who's questionable appointment resulted in one trail being thrown out.  You actually think they fixed that problem?

The same "special prosecutor" that admitted to mishandling classified material and evidence?

You don't think the judge in the matter is a close friend of Smith won't be an issue?

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.3  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.2    2 months ago

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Snuffy
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3.1.4  Snuffy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.2    2 months ago
A modified indictment brought about by the "special prosecutor" who's questionable appointment resulted in one trail being thrown out.  You actually think they fixed that problem?

Yep, Judge Cannon threw out the classified records case in Florida. But this indictment is a modified indictment of the Jan 6th case being tried in a DC court. Cannot argue about the special prosecutor's appointment, that will needs to be worked out but who knows if it really will be. I don't know how close this judge is to Smith, it's more that this is a DC court where it's difficult for a Republican (especially one as disliked as Trump) to get a completely fair trial. This will be watched closely, I have no doubt. The first thing I think is that Judge Chutkan has to review and determine what in the updated indictment can actually be used based on the recent SCOTUS ruling. 

How it will end up I really have no idea. About all I'm confident of is regardless of the ruling at the end there will be some who are pleased and some who are not and a lot of people will be screaming (either for joy or at the sky). 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.4    2 months ago
But this indictment is a modified indictment of the Jan 6th case being tried in a DC court.

He hasn't satisfied one of the reasons Judge Cannon threw out the case - his "appointment" as a Special Prosecutor.  Or did you and he forget about that little fact?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1.6  Snuffy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.5    2 months ago

No, haven't forgotten that part at all. But this entire thread started with the "modified" indictment in the DC court and your first reply in 3.1 was aimed at Judge Cannon in the Florida court. That's all. Yes, same prosecutor but different courts & judges and different indictments.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.6    2 months ago
No, haven't forgotten that part at all. But

Everything after that "but" are mere excuses.  One of the key reasons the original trial was trashed was because of that "appointment".  If that's not resolved, there is no case.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1.8  Snuffy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.7    2 months ago

No fucking excuses. Please understand what I am saying. Post 3.0 which started this thread was about the DC case, your post in 3.1 was about the Florida case. Only commonality is the Special Counsel is the same for both and the defendant is the same for both. Otherwise they are separate cases with separate indictments which you are conflating.

Just because Judge Cannon threw out her case because she determined that his appointment as special prosecutor was wrong, Judge Chutkan has not done the same and is not required to follow the ruling by Judge Cannon. He can allow his case to go thru. If he was required to follow the ruling from Juge Chutkan then his case would have already been tossed. If he does allow the trial to go forward, then of course the ruling by Judge Cannon will come to play in the appeal if needed. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.8    2 months ago
No fucking excuses.

It's ALL excuses.  

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
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3.1.10  Duck Hawk  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.2    2 months ago

If you regard Smith as "illegally appointed," then you also have to address the fact the special prosecutor in the Hunter Biden case is also illegitimately appointed. this would apply to EVERY special prosecutor from the Nixon era forward.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Duck Hawk @3.1.10    2 months ago

Smith's appointment was brought to light by by Trump's defense team.  When Judge Cannon looked into it she could not find where he was legally appointed as a special prosecutor.  

To claim every special prosecutor appointment is brought into question because of this is laughable.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.12  TᵢG  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.1    2 months ago

You are correct.   This is a modified indictment (superseding the prior) and this indictment came from a different grand jury.

You are also correct that this indictment will not turn into a trial before the elections.   

But part of the work is to review the evidence to ensure it meets the new requirements set by the SCotUS immunity ruling.   And that means Smith's evidence will almost certainly be made publicly available prior to Nov 5th.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.8    2 months ago
Please understand what I am saying.

I for one certainly understand what you wrote.   You were quite clear.   

The problem seems to be that some cannot or will not distinguish between the Jan 6th and the Classified documents indictments.

To help make this crystal clear for those who are not understanding what you wrote:

  • You are talking about the Jan 6th indictment. 
  • You were not talking about the Classified documents indictment.
  • The two are distinct indictments.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Lets cut to the chase

[] Conservative media personality and comedian Tim Young posted this clip and wrote: "Trump was right … AGAIN. In this J6 footage, Pelosi admits it was HER FAULT that the Capitol was not secured."

Nancy Pelosi does NOT admit, at any point in this article, that J6 was her fault. She was talking about the general unpreparedness at the capitol for such a large and violent mob.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 months ago

The law enforcement response to the January 6th Capitol breach involved several key actions and challenges:

  1. Initial Response : The U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) were the primary force on the ground.   They faced significant challenges in maintaining security perimeters and protecting the Capitol from being breached 1 .   The USCP had not anticipated the scale of the attack and were initially overwhelmed 1 .

  2. Reinforcements : As the situation escalated, reinforcements were called in from various agencies, including the Metropolitan Police Department (MPD), the Department of Justice (DOJ), and law enforcement agencies from Maryland and Virginia 2 .   These reinforcements helped to eventually secure the Capitol and remove the occupiers 2 .

  3. National Guard : The decision to deploy the National Guard was delayed, which contributed to the initial chaos.   The Capitol Police Board had decided on January 3 not to request the National Guard, which impacted the immediate response 1 .

  4. Investigations and Charges : Following the breach, the DOJ and FBI established a task force to investigate and pursue charges related to the events.   This included investigating individuals who clashed with law enforcement and those who brought weapons and explosives to the Capitol 2 .

  5. Failures and Criticism : The response has been widely criticized for its lack of preparation and coordination.   A Senate report highlighted broad failures across multiple agencies, including intelligence breakdowns and inadequate training for Capitol Police officers 3 .

The response to the January 6th breach has led to ongoing investigations and discussions about improving security and coordination for future events.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 months ago

None of that contradicts Pelosi's admission that they were not prepared for a likely interruption of the proceedings

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.1    2 months ago

yeah, "they",  not her. "They" includes everyone who has responsibility for Capitol Building security. 

   The Capitol Police Board had decided on January 3 not to request the National Guard

The deranged political right has been trying for 3 2/3 years to lay the blame for the riot and insurrection off on anybody else except the people who did it, and Trump who summoned the mob there.  

Intelligent people do not buy it, at all. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.3  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    2 months ago

And why was none of that brought forth during the Jan 6th Committee hearings? Wasn't the point of the hearing to determine everything that went wrong in order to help insure it could not happen again? Why was this ignored?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    2 months ago
The deranged political right has been trying for 3 2/3 years to lay the blame for the riot and insurrection off on anybody else except the people who did i

Kinda like Palestinian sympathizers that want to blame the Israelis and the US, not Hamas and Iran. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.3    2 months ago
And why was none of that brought forth during the Jan 6th Committee hearings?

For the same reason they hid and altered video "evidence".  They had a narrative to push.  

Wasn't the point of the hearing to determine everything that went wrong in order to help insure it could not happen again?

While that was their stated purpose.  We all know that's not what happened.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    2 months ago

256

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5    2 months ago

You're right, they were "allowed" to scale a 20 ft high wall in order to get around the police lines. 

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Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    2 months ago

It should have been easy pickin's at that point.

 
 
 
Thomas
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5.1.2  Thomas  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.1    2 months ago
It should have been easy pickin's at that point.

So you are suggesting that the people be shot while scaling the wall? 

A true humanitarian.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.3  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Thomas @5.1.2    one month ago

Ever hear of rubber bullets? Where was the tear gas and such?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Thomas @5.1.2    one month ago

Now we have MAGAs suggesting we should rationalize the behavior, and intent , of the insurrectionists based on the fact that the police didnt shoot them.  Apparently under the "logical" argument that if law enforcement really didnt want them inside the building they would have shot them. 

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1.5  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.4    one month ago

It took one neck shot to send MAGA Insurrectionists running!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @5.1.5    one month ago

One person killed during a peaceful protest and the victim was unarmed.

 
 
 
Thomas
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5.1.7  Thomas  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.6    one month ago
One person killed during a peaceful protest and the victim was unarmed.

Now I know that your compass is off... Peaceful Protest? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Thomas @5.1.7    one month ago

I know this goes completely against the narrative pushed.  Comparing it to the "peaceful protests" of 2020, this was peaceful.  Very peaceful.  

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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6  Hal A. Lujah    2 months ago

Trump and his social media minions incited the event.  How pathetic for anyone to overlook that and get more critical of the response to the event that the obvious cause of the event.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1  bugsy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6    2 months ago

What part of ‘peacefully and patriotically’ do you dislike so much?

 
 
 
Thomas
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6.1.1  Thomas  replied to  bugsy @6.1    2 months ago

Trumps Tweets :

Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!

Sent as the violence was happening.

;

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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6.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  bugsy @6.1    2 months ago

I know that there is little chance you have allowed yourself to watch this, but part of it is peaceful or patriotic?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6.1.2    2 months ago

Lock him up. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  bugsy @6.1    2 months ago

The part that goes against what they THINK happen.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6.1.2    2 months ago

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Hal A. Lujah
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6.1.6  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.5    2 months ago

I don’t consider it ignorance anymore, it’s just plain trolling for the sake of their satisfaction in “owning the libs” - regardless of how woefully short they fall in their pathetic attempts.  They know full well how wrong they are, they just don’t care.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.7  bugsy  replied to  Thomas @6.1.1    2 months ago

So you think THAT was violent speak? 
He essentially said the same thing Al Gore and Hillary said. 
Where was your outrage then?

Again, I ask……

What part of ‘peacefully and patriotically’ do you  dislike so much?

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.8  bugsy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6.1.6    2 months ago

owning the libs”

I can assure you no sane American would want to own a liberal. 

Think about what kind of a mess they have made this country and compare it to what they would do to your house if you owned one.

No thanks.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6.1.6    2 months ago

There is a reason why so many MAGAs know absolutely nothing about Jan 6th and the election interference.  They do the deaf dumb and blind thing when shown the evidence.  I am pretty sure there there is not a single conservative on this site that has a good grasp on what happened post election in 2020. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @6.1.7    2 months ago
He essentially said the same thing Al Gore and Hillary said. 

Total nonsense.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.11  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.10    2 months ago

Let’s see….

Hillary tried to get electors to change their votes in her favor……election interference

Gore tried to get the results of Florida overthrown and get a recount in his favor…….election interference

Trump told supporters to ‘peacefully and patriotically’ march to the Capitol. What he said has no bearing on what a few supporters actually did.……liberals freaked out and said he was interfering in the election

See the difference?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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6.1.12  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @6.1.11    2 months ago
Hillary tried to get electors to change their votes in her favor……election interference

That is false.   Clinton did not personally engage nor endorse that activity.   That was done be the Hamilton Electors and they were pursuing a completely constitutional (albeit rare) provision designed by the framers to guard against the public electing someone unfit for office.   It lasted about one month.

Gore tried to get the results of Florida overthrown and get a recount in his favor…….election interference

Gore challenged the counting accuracy of a razor thin election where a few districts in Florida would decide the presidency.   His actions were all straight-up above the board legal and when the SCotUS decided to cease counting, Gore conceded the election and encouraged the nation to support their new president-elect.

Trump told supporters to ‘peacefully and patriotically’ march to the Capitol. What he said has no bearing on what a few supporters actually did.……liberals freaked out and said he was interfering in the election

It really is amazing that you think this utter bullshit will persuade anyone.   You ignore all the illegal/unconstitutional fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement and focus on the very few times where his language was normal.  

What Trump did after losing the 2020 election is a historical first.   It is a major stain on our system and our nation.   There is nobody to compare Trump to.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.13  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.12    2 months ago

Thank you for your opinion but my post stands as fact

 
 
 
Gsquared
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6.1.14  Gsquared  replied to  bugsy @6.1.13    2 months ago

Comment 6.1.12 stands as absolutely factual.  Your Comment 6.1.11 is strictly unsupported opinions based on "alternative facts".

 
 
 
JBB
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6.1.15  JBB  replied to  Gsquared @6.1.14    2 months ago

The Republicans who used to nominate serious candidates like Mitt Romney and John McCain seem kind of quaint already...

How do we take MAGAs seriously when they act so weirdly?

There is nothing left to do except let them spew bullshit lies!

Nothing stops it so let them sputter. November 5th Comes...

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.16  bugsy  replied to  Gsquared @6.1.14    2 months ago

Thank you for your opinion.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.17  bugsy  replied to  JBB @6.1.15    2 months ago

The Republicans who used to nominate serious candidates like Mitt Romney and John McCain seem kind of quaint already’

I and probably most conservatives here voted for both Romney and McCain. Do you think we are quaint?

 
 
 
JBB
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6.1.18  JBB  replied to  bugsy @6.1.17    2 months ago

Normal Reagan, Bush, Cheney, McCain, Romney and Pence family members who will vote for Harris - Walz seem damn normal compared with Trump's Wildhaired MAGA Weirdos ! 

No wonder the once Grand Old Party of Abe Lincoln is now referred to in the lower case merely as "the gop". A mess...

It is with great satisfaction voters will crush MAGA Nov 5th!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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6.1.19  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @6.1.17    2 months ago

Most everyone who is or used to be a GOP member and who was born in the early 1990s or earlier voted for Romney or McCain.   There is nothing special about that.   And both Romney and McCain were normal politicians, serious patriots, and fit to hold the office of the presidency.

But with Trump, the GOP has split.   There are those who hold true to the prior principles of the GOP (the 'quaint' minority) and then there is the majority who have abandoned principles and rationality by supporting Trump. 

Liz Cheney is the most recent of the old, rational 'quaint' GOP to publicly announce that she does NOT endorse Trump, will NOT vote for Trump and will use her vote the best possible away AGAINST Trump by voting for Harris.  

Cheney is a patriot who puts nation above party (and her party is basically in-name-only at this point).

Those who are voting for Trump are voting for the Trump-cult-'GOP' and, in so doing, are further contributing to the infection and dysfunction of the GOP caused by the Trump parasite.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.20  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.19    2 months ago

That was a lot just to say ‘I hate the GOP and will readily vote for who I am told to vote for, as evidenced by the elites picking a D nominee in which ai had no say’

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.21  bugsy  replied to  JBB @6.1.18    2 months ago

Weirdos’

You must not have gotten the new memo that the study group said using that word because you were told to is an unintelligent thing to do

 
 
 
JBB
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6.1.22  JBB  replied to  bugsy @6.1.21    2 months ago

I understand "Weird" and "Weirdo" bother MAGA greatly...

Such A Pity!

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.23  bugsy  replied to  JBB @6.1.22    2 months ago

Doesn’t bother me one bit but I am not MAGA, whatever that is. 
Using weird over and over again after leftists were told it was stupid to use just shows non intelligence on their part.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.1.24  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @6.1.20    2 months ago

If you are going to reply to me then at least read my post.   What you just wrote is nonsense.   If you had read my post you would see that I am in strong favor of the GOP prior to Trump regaining control of the party.   Instead of 'hating' the GOP, I support its return.   To do that, it must first eject Trump.   Before they can eject Trump, he has to lose the election ... the bigger the loss, the better for the GOP and for the nation.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.1.25  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @6.1.23    2 months ago
Doesn’t bother me one bit but I am not MAGA, whatever that is. 

You are not a Trump supporter?   You are not going to vote for Trump?   

At this stage in the process, if you plan to vote for Trump you are by any definition a member of the MAGA cult.

 
 
 
Thomas
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6.1.26  Thomas  replied to  bugsy @6.1.7    2 months ago

You can believe whatever you want to.

I will believe the truth, which is that Donald trump called the people to Washington, knew that they were ready to do battle, and sent them to the Capitol to apply pressure to the congress in an attempt to remain in the office against the people's freely and fairly expressed opinions. He dishonored his oath and deserves only to be in prison. 

 
 

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