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Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier.

  

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Via:  johnathon  •  9 years ago  •  152 comments

Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier.

The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.

After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS’s research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.

Marc E. Elias of Perkins Coie represented the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. (Matt McClain/The Washington Post)
Fusion GPS gave Steele’s reports and other research documents to Elias, the people familiar with the matter said. It is unclear how or how much of that information was shared with the campaign and the DNC and who in those organizations was aware of the roles of Fusion GPS and Steele. One person close to the matter said the campaign and the DNC were not informed by the law firm of Fusion GPS’s role.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html


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Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3  Sean Treacy    9 years ago

It's been amusing seeing some of the tweets from left wing journalists who are shocked! shocked! that Clinton world has been lying about this for a year.

Someone should also check on our members who have been so disgusted that Trump Jr. met with Russians, the disconnect when they find out Hillary was paying Putin allies for dirt on

Trump may cause health issues. 

 
 
 
katlin02
Freshman Silent
4  katlin02    9 years ago

this doesn't surprise in the least--it is just confirmation of how dirty the clintons and the DNC is..

 
 
 
sixpick
Professor Quiet
6  sixpick    9 years ago

Let me get this straight.  If you hire someone to hire someone to hire someone to hire someone to investigate your opponent in a Presidential election, while you and the President are doing a deal with the country you're investigating who you want people to think is working with your opponent against you and keep the current investigation of that country concerning bribes and other crap secret from everyone except the FBI (Mueller) and (Comey), Attorney General, Yourself and the Democrat President, you're not colluding while the President is spying on your opponents campaign?

Oh, I almost forgot to mention, you're making some really good money at the same time from the country you are investigating.

 
 
 
sixpick
Professor Quiet
7  sixpick    9 years ago

Uranium donations to Clintons.jpg

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
7.1  A. Macarthur  replied to  sixpick @7    9 years ago

Trump used the uranium deal to try to undercut Clinton during the campaign and draw scrutiny away from his own potential Russia ties. He claimed in October 2016 that Clinton gave uranium to Russia "for a big payment," which The Washington Post later   said  was  inaccurate.

Fact checkers more broadly have been quick to push back on characterizations of the uranium deal as a quid pro quo between Clinton and Russia, and PolitiFact   found   that the US produces such little uranium that the "concerns were out of proportion."

The Post's fact checker  reported last year   that although the State Department was one of several agencies that would have been able to approve the 2010 deal, "there is no evidence Clinton herself got involved in the deal personally, and it is highly questionable that this deal even rose to the level of the secretary of state."

"Theoretically, as   Schweizer  says, Clinton could have intervened," The Post reported. "But even then, it ultimately would have been Obama’s decision whether to suspend or block the deal."

A 2015   New York Times   bestselling   book by   Peter Schweizer   in which he investigates donations made to the   Clinton Foundation   by foreign entities, paid speeches made by   Bill   and   Hillary Clinton , and the state of the Clintons' finances since leaving the White House in 2001.

It was published by   Broadside Books , a division of   HarperCollins . Research for the book was conducted by the   Government Accountability Institute , [1]  …

… a conservative nonprofit investigative research organization founded by Peter Schweizer and  Steve Bannon .

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  A. Macarthur @7.1    9 years ago

How disingenuous of you. 

The New York Times article, that remains unrebutted,  details the financial ties between Putin's cronies and Hillary as she was sitting in judgment on their application, is based on their own reporting. 

How sad you have to resort to a fake ad hominem argument.    

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Silent
8  PJ    9 years ago

Since we've rarely seen the media get it right it may be a good idea to wait until all information is out there.  This is an interesting find.  I'll be interested in learning more.

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
10  Rmando    9 years ago

Where did all the liberals go? They've been going on about Russia for over a year. You'd think this would be their time to shine.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
10.1  lib50  replied to  Rmando @10    9 years ago
Where did all the liberals go?

Right here pumpkin!  Did you hear the one about Trump's data company?  Wikileaks (cough Putin)?  It will be easy enough to find, but I'd be careful bringing up collusion referring to an old played out story when you can't hide from all the shit swirling around the Trump campaign.   Catch up, you can only deflect for so long!

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
10.1.1  Rmando  replied to  lib50 @10.1    9 years ago

An old played out story?

Maybe you need to play some catch up. Even fake news CNN is throwing Hillary and the DNC under the bus. All the left can do is make the "They Do It Too" excuse.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
10.1.2  lib50  replied to  Rmando @10.1.1    9 years ago

No, that is just deflection noise. 

 
 
 
ausmth
Freshman Silent
11  ausmth    9 years ago

And the real Russian collusion is revealed!

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
11.1  A. Macarthur  replied to  ausmth @11    9 years ago
And the real Russian collusion is revealed!
Not the case my friend … the DNC did not pay nor involve Russia in pursuit of the Dossier … 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
11.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  A. Macarthur @11.1    9 years ago
e DNC did not pay nor involve Russia in pursuit of the Dossier

Really? Please provide proof that the anonymous Russian governmental sources were not, in fact, agents of Russia. 

 
 
 
Rex Block
Freshman Silent
11.1.2  Rex Block  replied to  A. Macarthur @11.1    9 years ago

Wrong again. They supplied the ways and means (money)!

 
 
 
ausmth
Freshman Silent
11.1.3  ausmth  replied to  A. Macarthur @11.1    9 years ago

If you pay somebody to do a job and they pay somebody to help them do the job you are still on the hook.  The DNC doesn't get away clean by laundering the money through Steele.  Now they are on the hook for false FEC filings as well.

The whole thing stinks to high heaven.  I find it interesting the posts from some dems on this site that excuse the illegal behavior of the dems while wanting Trump crucified.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
11.2  lib50  replied to  ausmth @11    9 years ago
And the real Russian collusion is revealed!

I see you too are behind the collusion curve.  This ones old (literally and figuratively).  Check out collusion, Cambridge Analytica, wikileaks and Trump. 

 
 
 
Rex Block
Freshman Silent
11.2.1  Rex Block  replied to  lib50 @11.2    9 years ago

The left's collusion is way more interesting, and getting worse for the Dem dummies.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
11.2.2  lib50  replied to  Rex Block @11.2.1    9 years ago

I think not.  But you can just wait til your sources can't ignore it.

 
 
 
ausmth
Freshman Silent
11.2.3  ausmth  replied to  lib50 @11.2    9 years ago
I see you too are behind the collusion curve.

And in leaky old DC there is still no proof of any collusion between Trump and Russia to beat Hillary.  He didn't need to collude because Hillary was a horrible candidate who wouldn't campaign in three key states.

The real collusion with the Russians was paid for by Hillary and the DNC!

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
12  A. Macarthur    9 years ago

Two things …

• Regardless of who paid for the Dossier, all that matters is its contents! 

• Julian Assange just stated that Trump's Digital Team (Campaign) approached WikiLeaks and made a direct request to have them work together … which means "intent to collude and conspire to (in essence) commit a crime."

Equivocate away … but …

What is   CRIMINAL INTENT ?

The intent to commit a crime: 

Criminal Intent : Overview

Criminal intent is a necessary component of a " conventional " crime and involves a conscious decision on the part of one party to injure or deprive another. It is one of three categories of "mens rea," the basis for the   establishment   of guilt in a   criminal case . There are multiple shades of criminal intent that may be applied in situations ranging from outright   premeditation   to spontaneous action.



 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
12.1  lib50  replied to  A. Macarthur @12    9 years ago

They are trying to push that old debunked Clinton story, ignoring the fresh news of collusion with Trumps campaign and wikileaks.  Eventually they will have to leave that bullshit bubble.

 
 
 
Rex Block
Freshman Silent
12.1.1  Rex Block  replied to  lib50 @12.1    9 years ago

There is NO fresh news. If so, post it.

 
 
 
ausmth
Freshman Silent
12.1.2  ausmth  replied to  lib50 @12.1    9 years ago
They are trying to push that old debunked

A new admission that the dossier was paid for by the DNC and campaign after not disclosing it to the FEC was debunked?

Why are you willing to excuse a proven violation of election law by dems while castigating reps for alleged unproven violations?

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
12.1.3  lib50  replied to  Rex Block @12.1.1    9 years ago
There is NO fresh news. If so, post it.

I've done it, but here is more: (follow the money!  hard to distance from something you pay MILLIONS to.  Don't worry, eventually Fox will have to cover it.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
12.1.4  lib50  replied to  ausmth @12.1.2    9 years ago

I'm sorry, there is nothing illegal about anything you just said. They didn't start the dossier and that wasn't illegal.  They didn't collude with an adversary, I'm not sure what you are trying to say.  Getting information on your opponent isn't illegal.  Unless it has to to with treason or collusion.  Which this isn't. 

 
 
 
ausmth
Freshman Silent
12.1.5  ausmth  replied to  lib50 @12.1.4    9 years ago

They did start the Fusion research that involved Steele and the dossier.  The rep that the left wants to blame was out of the picture months before Steele was hired by Fusion.  They lied about their involvement and didn't disclose to the FEC.  

 
 
 
ausmth
Freshman Silent
12.2  ausmth  replied to  A. Macarthur @12    9 years ago
Julian Assange just stated that Trump's Digital Team (Campaign) approached WikiLeaks and made a direct request to have them work together … which means "intent to collude and conspire to (in essence) commit a crime.

If this is a crime then Hillary and the DNC committed a crime by paying for the dossier.  They colluded with a foreign national to get dirt from a foreign country to win an American election.

Collusion is only a crime if the underlying act is a crime.

If the dems and Hillary's role in the dossier were so just then why lie to the FEC and call it legal fees?  Because they didn't want the public to know what they really did!

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
13  A. Macarthur    9 years ago

For the record …

Republicans were among the first to pay for the Dossier … they did so during the primaries to attain opposition research regarding candidate Trump!

Does that mean they colluded with Russia?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
13.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  A. Macarthur @13    9 years ago

Please read the article. These unidentified "Republicans" had nothing to do with hiring the author of the dossier and were not involved when work on the dossier started. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @13.1    9 years ago

Correct.

The Steele dossier was always (long before the public ever heard about it) considered scurrilous, even by the 7 major news media outlets, which are no friends to Donald Trump. What the dossier represents is a paid for negative profile of a candidate. Steele paid the Russians for dirt on Trump. They fed him a lot of unsubstantiated stories. They may even have guessed who Steele was working for. The point is nobody but NOBODY could ever verify the information.

The two real questions always were:

1) who paid for it? and

2) What did the FBI do with it?

We now know the answer to question # 1 - it was the Clinton Campaign and they lied about if for a year - telling us they knew nothing about it. It was only when the info was on the verge of being released that Clinton campaign members came forward to admit it. Even the NY Times own Maggie Haberman has come out and said "I WAS LIED TO"

As for the FBI - it is now on them to answer questions - like was this unsubstantiated dossier used to get a warrant to spy on Trump campaign officials? We shall see, but this is just the beginning

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Quiet
13.1.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.1.1    9 years ago

Vic, the dossier was gathered by a British citizen for an American company who was paid by the Clinton campaign to get any kind of information on Trump, no one admits to telling anyone what kind of information to get, just that they wanted information, none of the information was used in any part of the campaign so, none of it was gathered in time for the election. It is not illegal to get information from an American based company, it is illegal to go to a foreign government, like Russia to get information against a candidate.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @13.1.2    9 years ago
Vic, the dossier was gathered by a British citizen for an American company who was paid by the Clinton campaign to get any kind of information on Trump

Which was denied by the Clinton campaign for over a year - only when caught did they admit it.

none of the information was used in any part of the campaign

The information was published by "Buzzfeed" !  The information was attached to intelligence documents!  The information may have been used to get a surveillance warrant - and that's why the FBI will be questioned on the matter. Btw the information also fueled the phony collusion story, so don't tell us how harmless the information (none of which is verified) was!

 
 
 
ausmth
Freshman Silent
13.1.4  ausmth  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.1.3    9 years ago
The information may have been used to get a surveillance warrant -

This is the real crime Vic.  Using Russian sources on a fake dossier to get the FBI involved in an election.  That will probably not go anywhere though.

Now the Uranium One informant has been released from the non disclosure agreement and will testify.  What did Obama know and when did he know it?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  ausmth @13.1.4    9 years ago
That will probably not go anywhere though.

Maybe it will - Obama's Justice Department isn't handling all the investigations anymore.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  A. Macarthur @13    9 years ago

the Clinton campaign and the DNC used a lawyer named Marc Elias to retain the oppo-research firm Fusion GPS to conduct research on the Trump campaign (the firm had previously worked on behalf of a still-unidentified Republican to investigate Trump). Fusion GPS then hired a former intelligence officer named Christopher Steele, who conducted an investigation and authored the dossier.

As in worked on something else!

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Quiet
13.2.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.2    9 years ago

Fusion GPS is a U.S. based company, so, nothing illegal here.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @13.2.1    9 years ago

Did they report the Russia dealings?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Quiet
13.3  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  A. Macarthur @13    9 years ago
Republicans were among the first to pay for the Dossier … they did so during the primaries to attain opposition research regarding candidate Trump! Does that mean they colluded with Russia?

They did not go to Russians to get this information, the company is American owned, the person the company used to gather the information is a British citizen, no Russians were involved in this, however, the Trump campaign is a different story all together, the top officials have admitted in emails and, in testimony that they did talk with Russians about getting dirt on Clinton and, even Trump in one of his rallies stated that he would love it if the Russians got dirt on Hillary and, put it out there.

 
 
 
ausmth
Freshman Silent
13.3.1  ausmth  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @13.3    9 years ago
They did not go to Russians to get this information

They hired a company to go to the Russians to get the information.  Hire a surrogate to get dirt you are responsible for the foreign dirt dug up.

If this were just opo research why fail to disclose it to the FEC?  Why lie about it?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Quiet
13.3.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  ausmth @13.3.1    9 years ago

I don't know, ask Trump, he and, his campaign have been lying since June about there involvement with Russia.

 
 
 
ausmth
Freshman Silent
13.3.4  ausmth  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @13.3.2    9 years ago
I don't know, ask Trump,

Ask Trump why Hillary lied?  Her name is Clinton.  Clinton and lie are synonymous. 

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
14  A. Macarthur    9 years ago

REPUBLICANS ARE PRETENDING THEY DIDN'T FUND THE TRUMP GOLDEN SHOWER DOSSIER BEFORE HILLARY CLINTON

Shortly after a report emerged Tuesday evening claiming that Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee in part funded a dossier containing explosive allegations about President Donald Trump’s links to Russia, the Republican National Committee trumpeted the story in outrage.

Related:   Here’s What the 'Golden Shower' Dossier Now Being Investigated by Mueller Claims About Trump and Russia

There was just one problem with the version of the  Washington Post story  that the RNC reposted on its website: a line stating that prior to the Clinton campaign picking up the tab, the research was “funded by an unknown Republican during the GOP primary” was notably absent.

FYI: I agree that the Clinton Campaign should have let it be known when the Mueller investigation began, that it had paid for the Dossier research! That dissembling opens the campaign to legitimate criticism …

… FOR STUPIDITY!

But the reality is still that 17 American agencies agree that Russia interfered with the 2016 election. And, while parts of the Dossier have not been proven, none have been disproven, and apparently, parts have been validated.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
14.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  A. Macarthur @14    9 years ago

Please read the Washington Post. 

It rebuts, clearly, the fake news that  "Republicans" paid for the dossier.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
15  Vic Eldred    9 years ago

Yup, this emerging story not only does serious damage to democrats and their immoral acts during the 2016 campaign but it also condemns the media, which violated journalistic standards in perpetuating a myth. Do we recall how "buzzfeed" published what was essentially opposition research back in January?  Responsible journalists simply don't do that. How many right here on NT refer to the "dossier" as if it were an intelligence report?

We are going to see many fall before the real Russia story is finished

 
 
 
katlin02
Freshman Silent
15.1  katlin02  replied to  Vic Eldred @15    9 years ago

i think they are finding out that everyone BUT trump had ties and collusion to russia...DNC, clinton, FBI, CIA, podesta's, manafort,..

even brain fallon, who ran clinton's campaign said "clinton may have known about who paid for it"...WOW not even denials anymore., 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
15.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  katlin02 @15.1    9 years ago

It really turned around didn't it?  We never got that final leak, did we - the one that showed Trump colluding.  Over a year and 2 investigations into "Russia" and it was all started by a phony story from who else but the Clinton campaign

 
 
 
LynneA
Freshman Silent
21  LynneA    9 years ago

Are there any American's left who seek truth? Truth that doesn't have a "D" or and "R" spin?  As investigatory pendulums swing half of America is cheering, while the other half are in full on defense mode...with EVERY political swing.

Russia, it's a foreign government that has touched every aspect of our democracy.  While we sit and play "I know you are, but what am I", the attacks on our republic continue.  As we pit people, parties, media outlets, etc. they've already won.  We're destroying our republic from within!  Case in point...our Judiciary Committee, OUR American Judiciary Committee cannot even work together.

Our collective cause has got to be country.  If that means Clinton, Trump, Comey, Flynn, Lynch, or whomever is held to account, prosecuted, or incarcerated to preserve our republic...SO BE IT!

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
Junior Participates
21.1  Nowhere Man  replied to  LynneA @21    9 years ago
Are there any American's left who seek truth? Truth that doesn't have a "D" or and "R" spin?

I submit that yes there are, just asking the question establishes that there is....

Excellent comment!

Agree 100%

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Silent
21.2  PJ  replied to  LynneA @21    9 years ago

Lynne - Well said.  You have planted an olive branch on this seed.  Hopefully it will grow.  

 
 
 
LynneA
Freshman Silent
21.2.1  LynneA  replied to  PJ @21.2    9 years ago

Thanks PJ.  So many articles feeding our biased selves (I've a seat on that bus as well), they and the responses grieve my very being. 

 
 

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