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GOP again tries to kill Obamacare, this time in its tax reform bill

  

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Via:  lmm  •  9 years ago  •  58 comments

GOP again tries to kill Obamacare, this time in its tax reform bill

Republican senators will scrap the Affordable Care Act’s individual insurance mandate as part of their proposal, jeopardizing delicate negotiations for the chance at a double legislative win.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/obamacare-repeal-is-backin-the-republican-tax-bill/545921/

That would result in 13 million more uninsured.

Think Obamacare is unpopular? Hmm then why are people signing up for it in droves?

Obamacare sign-ups more than 45 per cent ahead of last year’s pace, government data show

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/11/15/obamacare-sign-ups-more-than-45-per-cent-ahead-of-last-years-pace-government-data-show.html

Facts. Reality. Deal with it.

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2  Vic Eldred    9 years ago

The mandate is the least popular part of Obamacare. Removing it dosent mean it takes someones coverage away, it simply removes the requirement that someone has to get coverage.

 The Senate’s chief tax writer, Orrin Hatch, said that the “Obamacare” fines on people who go without coverage amount to a tax on working people. “It’s a terribly regressive tax that imposes harsh burdens on low- and middle-income taxpayers,” 

And let's not forget the SCOTUS allowed Obamacare to stand by fixing the wording on this - it is a tax!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    9 years ago
Removing it dosent mean it takes someones coverage away, it simply removes the requirement that someone has to get coverage.
  • Removing it means that the insurance companies will no longer be able to afford to offer this insurance.  
  • Healthy people will no longer be required to get insurance.
  • Insurance companies cannot turn down people because of preexisting conditions.
  • Everyone starting signing up for insurance only when they get sick and dropping it once they are healthy again.
  • Insurance companies go bankrupt dropping their customers causing millions to lose their insurance and die because they can no longer afford treatment.
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2    9 years ago
because they can

Removing it is a huge savings for tax payers and a first step in reforming what has become a burden to the nation in terms of cost, availability, choice, the nations budget, the economy and individual liberty.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.1    9 years ago
Removing it is a huge savings for tax payers and a first step in reforming what has become a burden to the nation in terms of cost, availability, choice, the nations budget, the economy and individual liberty.

It is a fraction of the cost that we are paying the wealthy with these tax cuts.  Take away their undeserved tax cuts instead of sabotaging this nation's healthcare.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.2    9 years ago

Oh yes, that was part of it wasn't it?  The redistribution of wealth.

Let's try this:
National Health Care is here to stay. It is only a matter of how it is going to be carried out. I want it to be the least expensive way. Why do we have this mix of socialized health care married to a free enterprise system guiding the health care sector? Now that Mr Obama has got the nation dependent on health care to the point that most people suddenly consider it a right, why not simply take control of the medical sector. Let the federal government impose strict price controls on big Pharma & health care providers. Get rid of the insurance companies that need a profit to exist (there is no longer profit here) and go to the single payer solution democrats have always wanted.

How's that sound?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.2.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.3    9 years ago
How's that sound?

It sounds like you have no concept of reality and live your entire life in the Breitbart-FoxNews echo chamber.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.4    9 years ago

Thanks for addressing the issues/sar

 
 
 
lennylynx
Sophomore Silent
3  lennylynx    9 years ago

Obamacare!!  Thank-you President Obama, thank-you for caring.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Silent
3.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  lennylynx @3    9 years ago

No thank you Obama you screwed me by stealing my earnings and giving it to the drug addicted bums, drunks and beach bums. You reward laziness and punish the productive. You bought votes by promising to steal from one man and give to another. 

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
3.1.3  Explorerdog  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3.1    9 years ago

Sounds like tRumps new tax plan, I notice that of all the beneficiaries of Obamacare you chose only the low lifes that comprise a minute percentage of the enrollees, the very people that would never sign up for anything. Reminds me of the genius that said he was thrilled at the Obamacare repeal cause he has the ACA and he is covered.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  LMM @3.1.2    9 years ago
So I guess calm, rational discussion is out of the question.

As somebody famous once said "elections have consequences, I won"

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
4  The Magic 8 Ball    9 years ago

Kill Obamacare, This Time In Its Tax Reform Bill

well....the mandate is a tax.    just sayin.

should they wait for a highway funding bill?

 
 
 
nightwalker
Sophomore Silent
4.1  nightwalker  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4    9 years ago

No, what the ACA mandate repeal should be tied to is a bill full of gun regulations.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
4.1.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  nightwalker @4.1    9 years ago

Ha, too funny :)

 
 

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