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Pro-Life Win: CA Nursing Board Tells Pro-Abortion Advocates To Stuff It

  

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Via:  heartland-american  •  8 years ago  •  125 comments

Pro-Life Win: CA Nursing Board Tells Pro-Abortion Advocates To Stuff It

On Tuesday, the pro-life movement got a lift and the pro-choice movement’s surreptitious attempt to blunt abortion reversal was defeated when the California Board of Registered Nursing said the pro-life group Heartbeat International could grant continuing education units (CEUs) to nurses who study Abortion Pill Reversal.

Abortion Pill Reversal is the procedure in which mothers who ingest mifepristone (RU-486) (“the abortion pill”) regret the decision and use an emergency progesterone treatment to save their babies.

As Jay Hobbs of Heartbeat International notes at pregnancyhelpnews.com:

In the past five years, more than 400 mothers have successfully rescued their babies through an emergency progesterone treatment that has been used for more than 50 years to prevent miscarriages. Backed by a network of more than 350 medical providers, the Abortion Pill Reversal hotline (1-877-558-0333)—staffed with licensed medical professionals—answers over 50 calls per month from women who want to keep their baby after having started the chemical abortion pill process.

Here’s the timeline of what happened: in 2012, the California Board of Registered Nursing gave approval for Heartbeat as a CEU provider. Heartbeat then began offering credit for education on Abortion Pill Reversal online and at its annual conference.

So far, so good.

But in late 2015, an activist with Rewire.com, Nicole Knight, joined California State Sen. Jerry Hill (D-San Mateo) to pressure the Board into auditing Heartbeat. As Hobbs reports:

According to emails obtained through Heartbeat’s public records request, Knight and representatives from both NARAL and avowedly pro-abortion UC San Francisco insisted that Board officials take action against Heartbeat and its fellow pro-life pregnancy help groups, Care Net and National Institute of Family and Life Advocates (NIFLA).

Hill concurrently created legislation to try to disqualify all courses on Abortion Pill Reversal from receiving course credit. Although the law went into effect in 2016, it ultimately failed to disqualify the training.

Then, on July 28, 2017, the Board confirmed Heartbeat’s ability to offer CEU credit for the coursework.

On August 14, Knight contacted the Board to verify that it indeed had given the July confirmation. That prompted one high-ranking official to warn fellow administrators, “This issue has the potential to go viral.”

Spencer Walker, an attorney with the state’s Department of Consumer Affairs, sent a memo to Dr. Joseph Morris, executive officer of the nursing board, on August 14, warning the Board not to target Heartbeat. He denied the pro-abortion argument that abortion pill reversal was not science-based, writing:

The concept of abortion pill reversal is clearly science-based, and a registered nurse would likely be involved in the indirect care of a patient seeking abortion pill reversal assistance through education or other means. Therefore, the board could be exposed to litigation if it prohibits continuing education providers from offering courses in abortion pill reversal.

Even before that, in July 2017, Yale School of Medicine’s Dr. Harvey Kliman, speaking with The New York Times, said the protocol “makes biological sense,” allowing he would recommend the treatment to his own daughter.

Nevertheless, on September 5, 2017, the board reversed its own decision. On September 8, Rewire.com published a report noting that the Board had reversed itself and now banned Heartbeat from offering CEUs for any coursework related to Abortion Pill Reversal.

Heartbeat then appealed the decision and placed a public records request showing the coordination and influence from abortion lobbyists, including NARAL, Pro-Choice America, and Rewire.com.

The new decision permits Heartbeat to immediately resume offering CEU credit for an online course and for a workshop at its 2018 conference titled, “The Latest on Abortion Pill Reversal,” taught by Dr. George Delgado — one of two physicians who pioneered the treatment starting in 2007.

Heartbeat president Jor-El Godsey, who had referred to the Board’s decision in September as a “naked political attack,” was relieved that the Board resisted the pressure from pro-abortion forces. He stated, “Whatever a person’s stance on abortion, knowledge of this critical protocol is too important to withhold from nurses. We're glad that the Board of Nursing acted in the best interest of their noble and caring profession today.”

Delgado asserted:

This decision allows us to continue to spread the word that it is possible to reverse the abortion pill. It also supports our endeavor to further equip the pro-life medical community to serve as agents of hope to our hotline callers desperately seeking a second chance at life for their unborn. The “second choice” we offer women who change their minds after taking mifepristone not only gives their unborn babies a fighting chance, it also provides an avenue for emotional and spiritual healing. We are grateful to Heartbeat International for their tireless efforts to make Abortion Pill Reversal accessible to pro-life advocates and to the women they serve who may benefit from this life-saving treatment.   https://www.dailywire.com/news/24968/pro-life-win-ca-nursing-board-tells-pro-abortion-hank-berrien


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luther28
Sophomore Silent
2  luther28    8 years ago

I believe this issue has already been ruled on by the Supreme Court back in 1973.

While I myself do not believe in abortion for the purpose of birth control (though I do not think ill of any that may), an abortion under any circumstances is not the cavalier decision as it is often portrayed. Having said that, since I myself do not possess a vagina on my person that is the extent of my input, that is to say that it is not only a woman's choice but her right.

But in truth the solution for all is rather simple, if you are against abortion then don't have one. In the meantime the right of choice is the law of the land.

 
 
 
Rhyferys
Freshman Silent
3  Rhyferys    8 years ago

 
 
 
Old Hermit
Sophomore Silent
3.1  Old Hermit  replied to  Rhyferys @3    8 years ago

.

The Handmaid’s Fail
A spate of poorly vetted news articles about a purported "abortion pill reversal" procedure included misleading and potentially dangerous information. screenshotwww.snopes.com20180215082559.jpg

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
4  charger 383    8 years ago

RU 486 is the antidote for a problem.  Now some are pushing an antidote for the antidote?

Uncontrolled Overpopulation is the biggest problem in the world

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Participates
6  Hal A. Lujah    8 years ago

Who needs a pill to miscarry?  God will do it for you.

as many as 50% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage

He makes the abortion statistics pale in comparison.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
6.1  Raven Wing   replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6    8 years ago

Indeed. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
6.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6    8 years ago

God, the great abortionist. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
6.2.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.1    8 years ago
So, you guys admit that He exists after all.

So you admit it's a He and He's a mass murderer (by your definition). 

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
6.2.4  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.3    8 years ago
Miscarriages are simply one of many effects of sin in this now imperfect world.

Wow, your comments are getting more and more absurd with each post. That one is just too funny.

The only time you atheists believe there is a god is when something bad happens as they’d rather blame Him than the atheists true master, Satan.

That's a contradiction in terms. Atheists by definition do not believe there is a god (or Satan), regardless of what happens. So implying atheists believe in or follow any supernatural entity is at best erroneous, and at worst willfully dishonest!

Because of sin and free will bad people do bad things that harm good people.

Sin is just a silly religious concept. Besides, if there was a god (which you have never been able to prove), there would be no such thing as free will.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
6.2.5  charger 383  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.3    8 years ago
Miscarriages are simply one of many effects of sin in

so the Devil causes miscarriages?

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
6.2.6  Gordy327  replied to  charger 383 @6.2.5    8 years ago
so the Devil causes miscarriages?

Of course. Isn't that obvious? >sarc< Laugh

Besides, I have yet to hear one theist explain exactly what the devil has done that is so bad, especially compared to all the evil god has committed.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
6.2.7  Skrekk  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.3    8 years ago
Father and son would likely indicate a he.

Why would a sky fairy need a penis?   Is it so he can rape virgins like so many Bronze-age deities do?

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
6.2.8  Gordy327  replied to  Skrekk @6.2.7    8 years ago
Is it so he can rape virgins like so many Bronze-age deities do?

If I recall correctly, Zeus was quite the womanizer himself. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
6.2.10  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.9    8 years ago
How could a being you claim not to even exist have committed any evil?

You're the one who brought up the sin and Satan nonsense. I'm simply stooping to your level and pointing out a logical flaw with your brand of BS. So, care to answer my question? Or are you going to continue to deflect?

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
6.2.12  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.11    8 years ago
This seed is about how a woman now has the choice to stop an abortion midstream if she chooses to change her mind and protect her baby.

Yes, and? You're the one who mentioned religious nonsense in the first place. So essentially, you initiated the derail of your own seed, and when challenged, you try to divert back, which is clearly another attempt at a dodge.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
6.2.15  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.14    8 years ago
I’m not the one who compared an evil act, the killing of a human baby 👶 by abortion

Nice attempt at an appeal to emotion. But there are no babies in an abortion and abortion itself is a medical procedure. Whether you consider it "evil" or not is a matter of opinion, but otherwise irrelevant!

with a sadly natural act that can occur, a miscarriage. An atheist claiming that a God he doesn’t believe exists is killing babies 👶 via miscarriages He causes is what originally disrupted this seed.

If you are of the belief that events, natural or otherwise, is the will/act of god, then miscarriage is god's abortion. 

There is no logical flaw in our faith in God and understanding that Satan rebelled against him creating sin which humanity fell for.

Sure there is. It's completely devoid of logic and rationality. It's also nothing more than your own mere belief. And it sure seems like god is blaming humanity because of Satan's rebellion.

There is nothing God ever did that was evil or wasn’t perfectly fair and just.

So god committing genocide by flooding the world, ordering the murder of firstborn children, unleashing plagues on populations, destroying a coupe cities, and just overall smiting of people (assuming you go by the bible) is not evil but far and just? Your god has a warped sense of justice. And you seem to just make excuses for him. I'm still waiting to hear what Satan has done that even remotely compares to all that.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
6.2.17  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.16    8 years ago

yeah yeah, "the end is near, god will judge/punish you, Satan will swallow your soul," blah blah blah. Spare me the proselytizing nonsense! Your belief is of no interest to me.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
7  Raven Wing     8 years ago

Why do you, or any one else, care what a woman chooses to do with her own body? Does it somehow interfere with your own life or anyone else's life if a woman chooses to terminate her pregnancy for her own reasons?

I don't think anyone has the right to judge any woman who chooses to do so based on their OWN personal religious or personal reasons.

In a nutshell......the woman's decision lies between her and the Creator. Only He has the right to judge her. 

All this endless public prosecution of anyone who chooses to have an abortion is just another reason to keep the hate pot stirred between the masses.  

For anyone to think that they have the right to sit in judgement of anyone else based on their own religious or personal beliefs is putting themselves in the place of the Creator. It is not their call to make. However, that does not stop people from thinking they have the right to do so, even though it will not even affect their own life.

If those who feel they have the right to judge and condemn others would pay as much attention to cleaning up their OWN front yard the world would be much more at peace. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
7.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Raven Wing @7    8 years ago
Why do you, or any one else, care what a woman chooses to do with her own body?

Ooo, ooo...teacher, teacher.  I know why.  It's because these bible-thumping genetic throwbacks still consider women need to be managed and subservient.  Yes, and there are plenty of women willing to submit but so many more who are not. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8  MrFrost    8 years ago

There is no such thing as, "pro-abortion". No one is going door to door asking women to come down and get an abortion. Religion on the other hand... about once a week I get bible babblers on my porch telling me to go to their church.. So....who has the agenda here? Exactly. 

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charger 383
Professor Silent
8.1  charger 383  replied to  MrFrost @8    8 years ago

That is their logic.  Makes no sense to me 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
9  MrFrost    8 years ago

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Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
9.1  Skrekk  replied to  MrFrost @9    8 years ago

In fact the GOP-controlled House voted today to make claims under the ADA far more difficult to make.    They even skipped a moment of silence for the Florida shooting victims because they were so eager to make life harder for the disabled.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
9.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Skrekk @9.1    8 years ago

Didn't they also fairly recently vote to allow mentally ill people the same rights to buy firearms as people that....aren't nutty as a fruitcake? 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
9.1.2  bbl-1  replied to  MrFrost @9.1.1    8 years ago

Yes.  That was another Obama repeal thing by the Trump and the GOP.  President signed in on Feb. 15, 2017.  As yet a photo or video of that signing has not been made public.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
11  bbl-1    8 years ago

I'm still waiting for the 'right to life' groups and the Mega-Churches to take over the financial responsibility of children and thusly remove that burden from the US taxpayers.

Still waiting on that one.  C'mon fetus worshippers, step up to the plate.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
11.1  Skrekk  replied to  bbl-1 @11    8 years ago

The GOP's motto is "You're on your own once you can breathe on your own."

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
11.2  charger 383  replied to  bbl-1 @11    8 years ago

If the cost ever affected them, they would change their tune fast

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
14  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    8 years ago

Who else thinks HA's going to lock this one down pretty soon?  It usually  comes fast on the heels of him getting the rhetorical shit kicked out of him and that has already happened.....in spades.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
14.1  Gordy327  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @14    8 years ago
Who else thinks HA's going to lock this one down pretty soon? It usually comes fast on the heels of him getting the rhetorical shit kicked out of him and that has already happened.....in spades.

I'm a little surprised it hasn't happened already.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
15  MrFrost    8 years ago

So the republicans scream constantly about smaller government and more individual freedoms. I guess they mean, "for men only". 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
16  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    8 years ago

It will be no surprise to anyone who's dealt even briefly with HA's bullshit that this "abortion reversal treatment" is based on junk science.  Here's what ACOG (American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists) have to say about it:

Medication Abortion "Reversal" NOT Supported by Science

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
17  Paula Bartholomew    8 years ago

Pro life is essentialy pro choice also.  They choose to be pro life.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
17.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @17    8 years ago
They choose to be pro life.

You... you...mean people should be free to choose both options?  Why, that's a revolutionary and completely original concept.  You should write a book or at at least an essay on that theme.  

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
18  A. Macarthur    8 years ago

What manner of damned fool is simultaneously pro-life and anti birth control?

Possibly the kind opposed to government telling its citizens what to do.

"Only in America can you be Pro-Death Penalty, Pro-War, Pro-Unmanned Drones, Pro-Torture, & still call yourself 'Pro-Life.'"

As well as unfair economic situations for new mothers, there is the contraception problem. How does one suppose that fewer abortions will be necessary if there is not increased birth control use?

An article by CBS News from 2012 reported on a long-term study in St. Louis that offered women the free birth control of their choice. The study revealed that, amongst other positive effects, the program lowered the abortion rate for participants. There were 4.4 to 7.5 abortions per 1,000 women in the program. This is compared to the national average, which is almost 20 abortions per 1,000 women nationally.

Reducing the number of abortions through increased use of contraception is pretty common sense, so it really is absurd that anyone, particularly those so staunchly against abortion — such as the GOP — would oppose birth control legislation and funding. And yet it’s in the news all the dang time with conservative’s war on Planned Parenthood.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
20  charger 383    8 years ago

"treating spontaneous miscarriages"

why should spontaneous miscarriages be treated? 

 
 

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