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Adam Schiff: There Is 'Ample Evidence' Of Collusion Between Trump Campaign, Russians

  

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Via:  jbb  •  8 years ago  •  29 comments

Adam Schiff: There Is 'Ample Evidence' Of Collusion Between Trump Campaign, Russians

Adam Schiff: There Is 'Ample Evidence' Of Collusion Between Trump Campaign, Russians


WASHINGTON — There is "ample evidence" that the Trump campaign colluded with Russians, but only special counsel Robert Mueller can decide if it's enough to prove a crime beyond a reasonable doubt, the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee said Wednesday.

"There is already, in my view, ample evidence in the public domain on the issue of collusion if you're willing to see it," Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif, told reporters at a newsmaker breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor . "If you want to blind yourself, then you can look the other way."

President Trump has repeatedly denied any collusion and has denounced the Russia investigation as "a witch hunt" fueled by Democrats who are angry that Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 presidential election.

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Schiff said there is evidence — heard by the committee behind closed doors —that he can't talk about publicly because it remains classified. But he said there is plenty of evidence of collusion that has been reported publicly, including:

— Former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about talking in April 2016 to a professor with close ties to the Kremlin who told Papadopoulos that Moscow had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton. The professor told him about thousands of emails the Russians had from the Clinton campaign.

— Donald Trump Jr., Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner, and former campaign chairman Paul Manafort met with a Russian attorney at Trump Tower in June 2016 after being promised "dirt" on Clinton. The campaign later communicated to meeting organizers that they were disappointed they didn't get what they were promised.

— In July 2017, the president and White House advisers put together a misleading statement about the nature of the Trump Tower meeting, saying that it was for the purpose of discussing Russian adoptions.

— The Trump campaign knew through Papadopoulos that the Russians had obtained thousands of emails from the Clinton campaign. Then-candidate Trump publicly asked the Russians in July 2016 to hack Clinton and find her "30,000 emails that are missing" from the personal email server she used while secretary of State. WikiLeaks began posting emails from the Clinton campaign in October, just weeks before the November election.

— Former White House national security adviser Michael Flynn held secret conversations with Russian officials in December 2016 during the presidential transition period, promising to undermine sanctions imposed against Russia by the Obama administration for meddling in the U.S. election. Flynn pleaded guilty late last year to lying to the FBI about those conversations.

"All of this is evidence of collusion," said Schiff, a former federal prosecutor. "Now, I've never said that there was proof beyond a reasonable doubt. That's for Bob Mueller to decide. But to say there's no evidence of collusion, you'd have to ignore all this."

Mueller is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election, possible collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians, and possible obstruction of justice by the president.

"If this were a trial on the issue of did the Trump campaign conspire with the Russians to interfere or violate U.S. election laws by providing help to the Trump campaign, if this were a trial on that conspiracy charge...all of that evidence would come in as evidence of collusion," Schiff said.

The House and Senate intelligence committees and the Senate Judiciary Committee are each conducting their own Russia probes.

While it is up to Mueller to conduct the criminal investigation and file any charges he feels are warranted, it is up to the House panel "to tell the country as much as we can about what we have been able to learn," Schiff said.

Even if Mueller determines that he can't file criminal charges of conspiracy, the committee should inform people of any "unpatriotic" or "immoral" actions, even if they weren't illegal, Schiff said.

"It's not fine to work with a foreign power even if there is no violation of law involved," he said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/adam-schiff-there-is-ample-evidence-of-collusion-between-trump-campaign-russians/ar-BBJ8Sdt?li=BBnb7Kz



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luther28
Sophomore Silent
1  luther28    8 years ago

At this particular juncture the back and forth between the DEMs and the GOP has become nothing more than a he said, she said on both sides essentially negating anything credible emanating from the House Committee.

While from my viewpoint with the limited information we have at our level I would agree that if not out and out collusion there was certainly something afoot, I am content to wait and see what Mueller's investigation concludes. 

If there is ample evidence as Mr. Schiff states then I am sure more indictments will be forthcoming.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  luther28 @1    8 years ago

Let's hope mueller handles this more competently then he did the anthrax investigation. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
1.2  Skrekk  replied to  luther28 @1    8 years ago
At this particular juncture the back and forth between the DEMs and the GOP has become nothing more than a he said, she said on both sides essentially negating anything credible emanating from the House Committee.

That's giving Nunes and the other GOP committee members far more credit than they deserve.    Nunes in particular has no business being on the intel committee much less in charge of it since he's running interference for Trump and a hostile foreign power.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2  seeder  JBB    8 years ago

The evidence of Trump's Russia collusion keeps piling up. Only those in deep denial cannot see it...

 
 
 
Rex Block
Freshman Silent
2.2  Rex Block  replied to  JBB @2    8 years ago
The evidence of Trump's Russia collusion keeps piling up. Only those in deep denial cannot see it...

And what would that evidence be? What would that collusion amount to? Has Mueller shared it with you? Wishful thinking is taking over for critical thinking. If Schiff had any solid evidence about collusion, he would have leaked it by now. His statement is simply intended to keep up the hopes of the faithful up.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
3  Jasper2529    8 years ago

Is there an article for us to read, or are we supposed to discuss Schiff's opinions?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Jasper2529 @3    8 years ago

,Adam schiff makes the nutter  Maxine Waters  look credible by comparison.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @3    8 years ago

What are you even talking about this time?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
3.2.1  Jasper2529  replied to  JBB @3.2    8 years ago
What are you even talking about this time?

When I posted my first comment, there wasn't a link to the MSN article. You obviously added the link after I mentioned it. Period.

No big deal, JBB. Now I know what you'd like us to discuss. Thank you for adding the link.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.1    8 years ago

I don't know about all that. Maybe the NT system had a hiccup...

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
3.2.3  Jasper2529  replied to  JBB @3.2.2    8 years ago
I don't know about all that. Maybe the NT system had a hiccup...

Maybe ... perhaps ... winking

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4  seeder  JBB    8 years ago

To the tune of Folsom Prison Blues. "Trump hears a train a-comin. Its comin just for him. Muellers gonna get him. Just don't know when. He's stuck there in the White House with no excuse for his crimes. Before this thing is over he will be doin hard time".

 
 
 
tomwcraig
Junior Silent
6  tomwcraig    8 years ago

Adam Schiff also said at the breakfast that we need to follow the money.  Guess what, the only money that exchanged hands between the Russians and anyone else running in the 2016 elections were between them and the Clintons.  Did you forget that Bill got nearly half a million dollars from the Russians right before the Uranium One deal was passed?  And, how many millions went to the Clinton Foundation from the Russians throughout Hillary's term as Secretary of State?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
6.2  Jasper2529  replied to  tomwcraig @6    8 years ago

Oh, those pesky facts again!

 
 
 
Uncle Bruce
Professor Silent
7  Uncle Bruce    8 years ago

Show me undisputable evidence that the Trump campaign WORKED with Russians to undermine the election.  Show me.

 
 
 
Rex Block
Freshman Silent
7.1  Rex Block  replied to  Uncle Bruce @7    8 years ago

There is none!

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
8  Rmando    8 years ago

There is ample evidence Schiff is a total tool who falls for crank callers. Where's all the Dem hoopla over his precious memo? It seems the left doesn't seem to anxious to see it. Could it be they don't want to talk about the FISA courts at all?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9  Sean Treacy    8 years ago

He also somewhat backtracked on the Trump-Russia collusion issue, saying the Democrats’ definition of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia was much lower than potential criminal acts being reviewed by special counsel Robert Mueller. Collusion is not a crime under the federal statutes.

“I’ve never said there was proof beyond a reasonable doubt” about collusion, the California Democrat told reporters. “Our responsibility is not determining what can be proved to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. 

Democrats will just keep redefining the word to fit whatever evidence they can cobble together.  A post election conversation equals a plan to steal the election!

 
 

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