Mueller has McCabe memos documenting conversations with Trump
Washington (CNN)Special counsel Robert Mueller has memos written by former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe documenting his conversations with President Donald Trump.
The memos also detail what former FBI Director James Comey told McCabe about his own interactions with Trump while he was FBI director, the source said, and are seen as a way to corroborate Comey's account in Mueller's probe on Russian interference in the 2016 election.
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Attorney General Jeff Sessions fired McCabe on Friday, about a day before his 50th birthday and the date he was set to retire and begin receiving his anticipated pension, over accusations that McCabe directed FBI officials
Part of the reason behind firing McCabe in the manner that he was, was to impeach any future testimony he may give in front of Congress at an Impeachment hearing for Trump or at any future criminal prosecutions of Trump for things such as money laundering or illegal banking practices. However the fact the he and James Comey have co-coordinating contemporaneous memos detailing their conversations with and about conversations about Donald Trump (and that they have turned these over to the Special Counsel) is going to carry considerably more weight then any circumstances of any firings that came later, especially those that could be seen by a reasonable person as an attempt at a continuation of obstruction of justice.
That does seem to be the case.Initially it seemed that the Mueller investigation was focused more on collusion, but now its he is focusing more on the obstruction of justice component.
Mueller was given free reign in his counterintelligence investigation .. could be just me, but it seems from the start Mueller was looking for the obstruction of justice component. Look at the guilty pleas / indictments for having lied to the FBI .. Manaforte and money laundering etc etc...
Not much involving collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia thus far - doubt it will be found (just my opinion)
Well as a government prosecutor he can not ignore any crimes he runs across, including money laundering by Trump associates or Trump and his family, so he has to pursue those leads also. The Trump people say that is outside of the scope of his allowed investigation, however he is allowed under his mandate to go after other crimes that he runs across in the investigation of the crimes he is investigating concerning collusion or obstruction. It would be massive dereliction of duty and malpractice, even to the point of him losing his law license, for him not to investigate illegal activities he sees during his investigation of other crimes. And if that leads to illegal banking or tax practices or even money laundering of the Trump or Kushner family years before the campaign, so be it.
The memo's can now be used as coasters.
The moral:
FBI personnel shouldn't commit perjury
Are you forgetting the Trump Tower meeting? All Mueller has to show is that Trump knew about, as his tweets indicated. But even without that, the Trump election team has already been shown to have colluded with that meeting.
You are aware that there is no crime of "collusion" right?
But of course its perfectly fine if the President does. Or his son in law. Or Flynn. Or Manafort. Or...Sarah Huckleberry Sanders. Or...so many others.
/sarc
Dream on, vickie.
I understand that, my comment was in regards to 'collusion' not being, nor has been a mandate of the Mueller investigation. From the things that I have read while looking into the investigation, Russia's meddling in the 2016 election was the beginning mandate of the investigation - Comey's testimony is where the 'collusion / coordination' between the campaign and Russia comes into play .. thus becoming a part of the counterintelligence investigation of the Special Counsel... (my interpretation of my readings)
.. this is a very informative read, the article goes on in great detail regarding the scope of (or lack there of) the special counsels counterintelligence investigation...
I did not intend to post that much of the article - but I feel that it ties directly into the conversation.
Happy Monday
Remember the dedicated computer link in trump tower that shut down when discovered? It resumed after identity modification and when that was exposed it permanently stopped, or the quest for a back channel to the Russo's. It must be great to be like really smart like trump. Then there are the questions about his college years as like Dubya Bush, he seems to be poorly remembered if at all, there was a cottage industry there where students were paid to impersonate and attend classes for the well heeled ones.
It is possible that they could be made into nice ceramic coasters as a souvenir of the historical impeachment, sort of like wooden nickels.
No, I am not forgetting about anything - and that meeting does not collusion make. As far as I know colluding is not a crime - however coordinating with Russia to affect the outcome of the 2016 election is a crime..
Perhaps I did not make my comment clear enough - colluding with Russia is not on Mueller's radar screen - I do not think it has been from the start of the Special Counsel 'counterintelligence investigation' .. by definition involvement (not playing patty cakes in regards to dirt on H.) with foreign entities is the scope of the investigation. The Trump tower meeting means very lil in the broader view of events.
my opinion
You are aware that I am simply responding to another comment, not yours, that specifically uses the word collusion. Right??
Seriously??? That meeting is the textbook definition of collusion.
Now add Kushner's repeated attempts to create a back channel to Russia to expressly exclude the American intelligence community.
That would be attempted counter-intelligence (spying by passing secrets to a hostile foreign power) and conspiracy. I believe that will get you life without parole in a supermax.
If it's textbook, why do you have to misrepresent facts?
Trumpspeak, lies when the truth suffices.
I like the way you don't mention any of these "facts" that you claim I misrepresented. Or are we talking Trump's "alternate facts"?
Not much involving collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia thus far - doubt it will be found (just my opinion)
You might be right-- only time will tell.
Currently it seems Mueller is putting the collusion issue on the back burner-- ihe may or may not return to focusing on that in the furture.
Right now his efforts seem to be more on investigating allegations of "actual obstruction of justice.
(But again, its hard to know how that will turn out...)
Given the potential gravity of charges most likely forthcoming collusion serves the equivalent of the parking ticket to the Boston Strangler. Only the deniers can't see how desperate trump is to end the investigation, an innocent man would welcome the exoneration.
He's going after tRUMP's business dealings. Seems he's not at all worried about crossing tRUMP's "red line." In fact, it looks like he's daring the Shitbag to fire him. He knows what will happen if he tries that.
And Trump's (and Kushner's) business dealings are where the real meat is at.
an innocent man would welcome the exoneration.
Exactly.
In fact if he were really innocent, he would hope ther investigation wouild continue-- that would prove his innocene. But if it ends soon doubts about his innocence would linger
This has become exhausting.
I've made up my mind to wait until Mueller completes his investigation and read the various books when they come out. Until that time, we mere mortals are blowing our brains out with speculation.
They have birth certificates, they're all guilty of one thing or another (some more so than others).