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Rex Tillerson just majorly trolled Donald Trump

  

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Via:  jbb  •  8 years ago  •  37 comments

Rex Tillerson just majorly trolled Donald Trump

Rex Tillerson just majorly trolled Donald Trump


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rex-tillerson-just-majorly-trolled-donald-trump/ar-AAxntHa?li=BBnb7Kz


Rex Tillerson may be gone, but he hasn't forgotten.

Speaking to soon-to-be graduates of the Virginia Military Institute on Wednesday, Tillerson dropped this truth bomb:

"If our leaders seek to conceal the truth, or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom."

Woof.

Double woof.

You may remember that Tillerson was removed as Secretary of State by President Trump after a remarkably tempestuous year in office -- a period of time during which relations between the two men grew badly strained.

Things were never really the same after reports surfaced last fall that Tillerson has called Trump a "Moron" in a Pentagon meeting in the summer of 2017. Tillerson didn't deny using that word, although he sought to shame the press for even covering it. Which means, of course, that he said it.

Then there was the time when Tillerson directly refused to provide Trump cover following the President's "both sides" comments about the white nationalist violence in Charlottesville, Virginia.

"The President speaks for himself," Tillerson remarked at the time.

You may also remember that President Trump said more than 3,000 things that were either misleading or totally false during his first year in office -- a rate of more than six mistruths a day, according to the Washington Post. Or that Trump administration senior counselor Kellyanne Conway famously/infamously coined the phrase "alternative facts" to explain away Trump's false claims about the size of his inauguration crowd.

Now. Tillerson and his people will helpfully note that he never mentioned Trump's name in the speech, and that the address was meant as a broad call to fight for truth rather than a narrowly cast shot at the President of the United States.

Don't believe them.

Tillerson is no dummy. He knew what he was doing. The use of the phrase "alternative realities" is no accident. Neither are these lines from the Tillerson speech:

"A responsibility of every American citizen to each other is to preserve and protect our freedom by recognizing what truth is and is not, what a fact is and is not and begin by holding ourselves accountable to truthfulness and demand our pursuit of America's future be fact-based -- not based on wishful thinking, not hoped-for outcomes made in shallow promises, but with a clear-eyed view of the facts as they are, and guided by the truth that will set us free to seek solutions to our most daunting challenges."

It is impossible to read that paragraph and not have the image of Donald Trump conjured up in your mind. Im-possible.

That's just what Tillerson wanted -- and yet more proof that revenge is a dish best served cold.



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JBB
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    8 years ago

In the age of Trumpian alternate facts Tillerson is speaking the truth. So, pay attention people...

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
1.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  JBB @1    8 years ago
So, pay attention people

is tillerson going to lead the revolt?  LOL

hint: nothing he said implies he was talking about trump except imagined leftwing nuttery

thanks for the early morning laugh :)

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
1.1.1  epistte  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @1.1    8 years ago
hint: nothing he said implies he was talking about trump except imagined leftwing nuttery

If he isn't referring to Trump, then what leader is he referring to?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2  Bob Nelson    8 years ago

Tillerson was an incompetent Secretary of State, with muddled messaging and demoralized staff (due to not filling slots when career dimplomats departed). Before that , he was CEO of the largest of the Big Oil oligopolies. He is hardly someone to be giving lessons.

OTOH... even a stopped clock is right twice a day...

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
2.1  Skrekk  replied to  Bob Nelson @2    8 years ago

Tillerson was put in to help dismantle the State Dept.   He did what he was asked to do just like all the rest of Trump's nominees who fundamentally oppose the mission of the agencies they head.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Skrekk @2.1    8 years ago

Exactly.

So his outrage today is... dubious...

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
2.2  cjcold  replied to  Bob Nelson @2    8 years ago

Doubt I'll ever forgive him for the huge role he played in funding AGW denial for all those years.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2.2.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  cjcold @2.2    8 years ago

It is inevitable that the CEO of ExxonMobil dispute AGW. He is paid to maximize shareholder dividends, not to save the planet.

This should be the filter that everyone applies, all the time, to anything said by one of the 1%: follow the money!

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Quiet
3  Galen Marvin Ross    8 years ago

This is what happens when you stop drinking the Koolaid.

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
3.1  Spikegary  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3    8 years ago

Oh please, this is just like the Twix commercials.  He stopped eating the right twix and started eating the left twix.  It's the same farking candybar.

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
4  Spikegary    8 years ago

This is what happens when someone is abruptly fired, they go on the offensive.  Not exactly groundbreaking news.  These people at this level, generally, their competence is always exceeded by their egos.

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
4.1  Explorerdog  replied to  Spikegary @4    8 years ago

Of course there is the possibility that even he saw enough to realize that depraved condition that this administration has grown and that pesky conscience is gurgling. There are no alternative facts, there is reality and the truth and there is bullshit and trumps average of six lies per day is staggering, I wonder if I have told six lies in my life, and if I did at least four were before kindergarten. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
5  Paula Bartholomew    8 years ago

He totally nailed it.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
6  Ender    8 years ago

Funny how they never see these things until they are out of their positions.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Quiet
6.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Ender @6    8 years ago
Funny how they never see these things until they are out of their positions.

You can't see the forest for the trees when you are in the forest.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Silent
6.1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @6.1    8 years ago
You can't see the forest for the trees when you are in the forest

I just start cutting the trees down till I can c the forrest

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Quiet
6.1.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  igknorantzrulz @6.1.1    8 years ago
I just start cutting the trees down till I can c the forrest

Then you are no longer in a forest but, in a lumber yard.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
7  SteevieGee    8 years ago

Is it sad that I now agree with Rex Tillerson?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
7.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  SteevieGee @7    8 years ago

As I said... even a stopped clock is right... occasionally...

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8  MrFrost    8 years ago

Holy crap Rex, you nailed it....now why couldn't you have said that 14 effing months ago?

 
 
 
sixpick
Professor Quiet
8.1  sixpick  replied to  MrFrost @8    8 years ago

Another Darling of the Progressive Democratic Socialists C Party.

The Atlantic

December 1, 2017

Tillerson was, as is now recognized even by those who put him there, a disaster. As with most spectacular Washington flame-outs, his failures stem not from stupidity or general incompetence, but from a specific set of disabilities: an introverted and cocooned style of management that gave power to a few hated but overwhelmed and incompetent gatekeepers.

He was a debacle, pure and simple, the worst secretary of state in living memory.

"If our leaders seek to conceal the truth, or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom."

He was talking about the Swamp.  The people who had agents and others spy on the opposing Political Party they supported during a Presidential election.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Silent
8.1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  sixpick @8.1    8 years ago
The people who had agents and others spy on the opposing Political Party they supported during a Presidential election

Trump FILLED the Swampwith the best of the worst

Tillerson knows he fucked over the country that made him so wealthy and powerful

he regrets it

 
 
 
sixpick
Professor Quiet
8.1.2  sixpick  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.1.1    8 years ago

Like I said, "Another Progressive Democrat Socialist C Party Darling."  They even love Conservatives, Hamas, dictators, communist countries, terrorists, jihadists and even Fascists as long as they are supporting their ideologies.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  sixpick @8.1    8 years ago
He was talking about the Swamp.

"If our leaders.." Are you now suggesting trump and his staff are not leaders? FYI: I didn't hear him say shit about the swamp and even if he did? Trump OWNS the swamp now. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  sixpick @8.1.2    8 years ago
Like I said, "Another Progressive Democrat Socialist C Party Darling."

Wait, you are suggesting Tillerson is a progressive democrat? That's a joke right? Trump hired a progressive democrat to be SoS? Um, pretty sure Tillerson is many things....a progressive democrat he most certainly is not. A regressive conservative, yes, that I would agree with. 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Quiet
8.1.5  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  sixpick @8.1    8 years ago
Tillerson was, as is now recognized even by those who put him there, a disaster. As with most spectacular Washington flame-outs, his failures stem not from stupidity or general incompetence, but from a specific set of disabilities:

But, Trump "only hires the best people" so, what happened here?

an introverted and cocooned style of management that gave power to a few hated but overwhelmed and incompetent gatekeepers.

Isn't that why Trump hired him? To keep embassy's empty because Trump wanted to do all the negotiating himself?

He was a debacle, pure and simple, the worst secretary of state in living memory.

Wait a minute, I thought you said Hillary was the worst SoS in living memory.

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
8.1.6  Explorerdog  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @8.1.5    8 years ago

Wait a minute, I thought you said Hillary was the worst SoS in living memory.

That was when trump still liked Tillerson, now he don't so the mimics follow the leader. I fully expect a full on wig sale for trump hairdo's to be worn under MAGA hats.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Quiet
8.1.7  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Explorerdog @8.1.6    8 years ago

 
 
 
sixpick
Professor Quiet
8.1.8  sixpick  replied to  MrFrost @8.1.4    8 years ago

Anyone who does anything to satisfy the Progressive Democrat Socialist C Party's ideology becomes a "Darling", whether he or she is of the Party or not..  Tillerson isn't of the Party, so you either missed the point, Mr Frost, or you intentionally tried to give that impression.  It's no different than the way Comey has been treated by the Left.  When he accused Hillary of felonious crimes, turned around and didn't recommend charging her, he was a Darling, but when he turned around again and brought the Wiener emails up for 3 days, he wasn't any longer and remained so until Donald Trump fired him.  Then he became a Darling again and has been one ever since.  The truth or justice didn't matter then and it doesn't matter now.

The Progressive Democrat Socialist C Party's ideologies override truth, justice, morality, gender, race and ethnicity.  All of these are subject to the onslaughts by the left if they fail to adhere to the Left's ideologies.  They can go from "Darling" to "foe" simply by daring to think for themselves and failing to follow the collective ideologies of the Left.

This is Tillerson's moment.  He is being used as a tool and is considered a "Darling" for the moment until he says or does something that is akin to straying from the plantation.  The days of old have now blended into the current moment, but the ideologies have not changed.  They still need to control others and demand a group of people they can feel superior to in order to control their actions and thoughts.  If anyone strays from the plantation, they are cast out and ostracized by the Left for doing so.

The article I put in my comment was written by "The Atlantic", a left wing site, when he was the enemy.  There were many other articles from the Left while he was a part of Trump's Administration that were critical of him, but the article we are reading now that he has said something that appears to the Left to be directed at Trump makes him a "Darling".  I've listened to his entire speech and although it could be attributed to Trump, it can be attributed to all the Leaders of this country or anyone for that matter.  We know the corruption is deep within our government and was corrupt long before Trump appeared on the scene.  It didn't start when Trump decided to run for President.

By the way, being elected doesn't clean the swamp any more than brushing your teeth removes your cavities.  Trump is a tool, not even a tool I really like, given to us by the people of this country who want to clean the swamp and the people who stood by silently and allowed it to grow.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Quiet
8.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  MrFrost @8    8 years ago
.now why couldn't you have said that 14 effing months ago?

He was drinking the Koolaid then.

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
8.2.1  Explorerdog  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @8.2    8 years ago

I imagine it is like getting really hammered, behaving badly and sobering up the next day and your friends tell you what you did.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Quiet
8.2.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Explorerdog @8.2.1    8 years ago

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
9  bbl-1    8 years ago

I am sure Tillerson had many 'personal moments' with Trump.  I would sure like to know what those were.

Tillerson however, is a corporate ExxonMobil snake.  His loyalties were always with the corporate.  He would have never been Secretary of State if Putin would not have put in his two cents worth.

And now Tillerson, in the twilight of his years is feeling that little tinge of being an American and revealing a peek inside what it is like to ride in a clown train, full of clowns with the most clownish clown at the helm.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
9.1  Skrekk  replied to  bbl-1 @9    8 years ago

I think one of the real problems Tillerson had was that the Trump regime slow-walked the clearances and appointments for any State Dept staff.   Quite a few people chose to resign or retire due to Trump's election and filling those vacancies has been at the very bottom of the Trump regime's priorities.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
9.1.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Skrekk @9.1    8 years ago
I think one of the real problems Tillerson had was

he was on the wrong side and got fired.

Tillerson Fired Over Rogue Bid to Save Iran Nuke Deal

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
9.1.2  bbl-1  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @9.1.1    8 years ago

Nah.  He called the moron an effing moron.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
9.1.3  Skrekk  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @9.1.1    8 years ago
he was on the wrong side and got fired

In other words he was on the side of diplomacy and constructive engagement, two things which are anathema to the Trump regime.

 
 

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