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Trump Proves Torture Works

  

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Via:  heartland-american  •  8 years ago  •  44 comments

Trump Proves Torture Works

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Liberals hate torture. They claim it doesn’t work.

Sorry, but President Trump just proved torture works. No, I’m not talking about beatings, stabbings, electric prods, or even waterboarding. I’m talking about the slow, relentless monotony of something akin to Chinese Water Torture. “Drip, drip, drip.” Eventually that kind of relentless, subtle torture drives people crazy.

Trump concluded his torture experiment in the wee hours of Tuesday morning. That’s when he walked away from a meeting with dictator Kim Jung un of North Korea with the most astounding victory of all time. Kim apparently agreed to immediate and complete de-nuclearization.

Trump accomplished something no liberal critic or “Never Trumper” ever thought possible. Trump has completely tamed Kim and his nuclear ambitions. Trump has neutralized one of worst threats hanging over the world. Trump has delivered “peace in our time.”

And, as I predicted a month ago, Trump just earned the Nobel Peace Prize.

To liberals this must feel like torture. Trump keeps attacking and conquering in waves. And each time he makes liberals look sillier, stupider and crazier than the last.

Take Robert DeNiro, the famed actor who plays tough guys in the movies. Trump has clearly driven him insane. DeNiro now suffers from delusion. DeNiro thinks he’s a mafia thug. He can no longer tell fiction from reality. On Sunday, he stepped onto the stage at the Tony Awards and did his best mafia thug impression. DeNiro said, “F—k Trump. It’s no longer down with Trump, it’s f—k Trump.” Classy. Tony Soprano could not have said it better, while wearing brass knuckles.

On the same weekend, Bill Maher on his HBO show “Real Time” admitted the economy is booming. Then he reported his dream: Maher is rooting for an economic crash. Maher said, “I’m hoping for it. I think one way you get rid of Trump is by crashing the economy. So please, bring on the recession. Sorry if that hurts people, but it’s either root for a recession, or lose your democracy.”

Liberals like Maher couldn’t care less how many Americans lose their jobs, wind up on welfare, or homeless. Maher couldn’t care less how many proud Americans suffer, how many commit suicide. Maher is worth upwards of $100 million. He doesn’t care if your life is ruined, if your kids starve. As long as Trump is defeated. That’s today’s Democrat Party.

This is what the Democrat Party has been reduced to by Trump's relentless torture. Democrats support MS-13. They don’t think jobs matter to middle class Americans. $1000 bonuses are insignificant “crumbs.” The lowest unemployment ever for blacks and Hispanics is meaningless. Skyrocketing GDP is unimportant. Open borders are good. Defeating ISIS is bad. Peace with North Korea is unacceptable.

Their slogan should be: "MAMA: Making America Miserable Again."

Now for some deep-down truth from a longtime dear friend of mine. He’s a 71 year old, liberal, Jewish New Yorker who hated Bush, and hated Trump more. For three years now he’s called Trump every foul name in the book. But Trump's North Korea breakthrough was the last straw. He’s capitulated. He’s crying “Uncle.” Trump has conquered him. Here are his words in an email to me earlier this week after Trump's apparent victory in Singapore:

Wayne,

Hat's off to The President. You were right. This is the new America and it's going to be around for a while.

Forget about the mid-terms that are now over. No way Dems get House, much less Senate. And who's going to run against Trump in '20? They don't even need to bother holding the election.

While I can't stand ignorant hypocrites like Evangelicals and Tea Party flip-floppers who gave "The 1%" a trillion-dollar gift and called it a tax cut -- you can't argue with success and Trump's getting it done.

Anyway talk soon. Richard

That’s called raw truth. They won't admit it publicly, but this is what liberals like Bill Maher and Robert DeNiro are really thinking, deep-down. This is why they are so bitter, cranky and delusional.

It’s all over. Turn off the lights. The party is over for the Democrat Party.

Relentless Trump has broken them. Relentless Trump has eviscerated them. Relentless Trump has pounded them into submission.

Trump proves, once and for all, torture works.


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TruettCollins
Freshman Silent
2  TruettCollins    8 years ago

The "drip, drip, drip" started long before Trump got involved and it was the men and women who serve in the military being there day and night while Trump dodged his duty to the nation. 

And no he has not "earned the Nobel Peace Prize." all he was, was like Reagan, in the right place at the right time.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  TruettCollins @2    8 years ago
all he was, was like Reagan, in the right place at the right time

Wrong...it was Trump starting the whole process that caused this historical summit. So Obama was "in the right place at the right time", since he nothing to win his worthless prize??

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2    8 years ago
since he nothing to win his worthless prize??

Obama ended two wars... That's why he got it. Duh. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.2.4  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.2    8 years ago
When did the war in Afghanistan end?

In October 2014, British forces handed over the last bases in Helmand to the Afghan military, officially ending their combat operations in the war. On December 28, 2014, NATO formally ended ISAF combat operations in Afghanistan and officially transferred full security responsibility to the Afghan government.

The withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan describes the draw down of United States Armed Forces in the Afghanistan war and the plans after its post-2014 presence when most combat troops had left Afghanistan at the end of 2014.

Any other questions? 

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
2.2.5  Snuffy  replied to  MrFrost @2.2.4    8 years ago

Ok,  so you said he got it for ending two wars.  He won the award in 2009. The Afghanistan war according to you ended in 2014.  So what two wars did he end to win the NPP?  And hey, let's not forget the rules for nomination for the award, it is due by Feb 1 of the year it is awarded so Obama was in office for a whole 11 days when he was nominated. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.2.6  MrFrost  replied to  Snuffy @2.2.5    8 years ago

Well, I guess he is just better than trump....but then we all knew that already. 

 
 
 
TruettCollins
Freshman Silent
2.2.9  TruettCollins  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2    8 years ago

No, it was the pressure of those in uniform for decades.

 
 
 
TruettCollins
Freshman Silent
2.2.12  TruettCollins  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.10    8 years ago

Really....but then those who have never been in Uniform, in harms way wouldn't understand that.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
3  lib50    8 years ago

Good god, he got NOTHING except the same promises made by North Korea since the early 90's!  Literally NOTHING except some empty words they could sign their name to.  Then Trump gives Kim some huge bonuses for propaganda, that salute and the training with the South Koreans.  NK has never kept a promise and somehow everything has changed.  NOTHING has changed except what we gave up.   And that praise he heaped on him!  No way republicans would have ever accepted that until they joined the Trump cult.   When something actually changes, get back to us.  So far Kim is ahead.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.1  MrFrost  replied to  lib50 @3    8 years ago
Then Trump gives Kim some huge bonuses for propaganda

Trump literally said that the NK state run media is MUCH better than our free press. Trump is a fucking moron. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.1    8 years ago

Only a dictator would attack the free press. FACT. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
3.1.3  Jasper2529  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.2    8 years ago
Only a dictator would attack the free press. FACT. 

Hmmm...

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.3    8 years ago

Do you have anything that isn't from a far right wing fake news site? 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
3.1.6  Jasper2529  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.4    8 years ago
Do you have anything that isn't from a far right wing fake news site?

When did Alternet become "a far right wing fake news site"?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
4  MrFrost    8 years ago
Trump Proves Torture Works

Nope... Nice try though... From the congressional report on the Guantanamo torture that bush/cheney authorized... Also, just a reminder.. torture is a violation of the 8th amendment of the United States, and it's a violation of the Geneva Convention. 

Findings listed in the report [ edit ]

The 6,000-page report produced 20 key findings. They are, verbatim from the unclassified summary report: [1]

  1. The CIA's use of its   enhanced interrogation techniques   was not an effective means of acquiring   intelligence   or gaining cooperation from detainees.
  2. The CIA's justification for the use of its enhanced interrogation techniques rested on inaccurate claims of their effectiveness.
  3. The interrogations of CIA detainees were brutal and far worse than the CIA represented to policymakers and others.
  4. The conditions of confinement for CIA detainees were harsher than the CIA had represented to policymakers and others.
  5. The CIA repeatedly provided inaccurate information to the   Department of Justice   (DOJ), impeding a proper legal analysis of the CIA's Detention and Interrogation Program.
  6. The CIA has actively avoided or impeded congressional oversight of the program.
  7. The CIA impeded effective White House oversight and decision-making.
  8. The CIA's operation and management of the program complicated, and in some cases impeded, the national security missions of other   Executive Branch   agencies.
  9. The CIA impeded oversight by the CIA's   Office of Inspector General .
  10. The CIA coordinated the release of classified information to the media, including inaccurate information concerning the effectiveness of the CIA's enhanced interrogation techniques.
  11. The CIA was unprepared as it began operating its Detention and Interrogation Program more than six months after being granted detention authorities.
  12. The CIA's management and operation of its Detention and Interrogation Program was deeply flawed throughout the program's duration, particularly so in 2002 and early 2003.
  13. Two contract psychologists devised the CIA's enhanced interrogation techniques and played a central role in the operation, assessments, and management of the CIA's Detention and Interrogation Program. By 2005, the CIA had overwhelmingly outsourced operations related to the program.
  14. CIA detainees were subjected to coercive interrogation techniques that had not been approved by the Department of Justice or had not been authorized by CIA Headquarters.
  15. The CIA did not conduct a comprehensive or accurate accounting of the number of individuals it detained, and held individuals who did not meet the legal standard for detention. The CIA's claims about the number of detainees held and subjected to its enhanced interrogation techniques were inaccurate.
  16. The CIA failed to adequately evaluate the effectiveness of its enhanced interrogation techniques.
  17. The CIA rarely reprimanded or held personnel accountable for serious or significant violations, inappropriate activities, and systematic and individual management failures.
  18. The CIA marginalized and ignored numerous internal critiques, criticisms, and objections concerning the operation and management of the CIA's Detention and Interrogation Program.
  19. The CIA's Detention and Interrogation Program was inherently unsustainable and had effectively ended by 2006 due to unauthorized press disclosures, reduced cooperation from other nations, and legal and oversight concerns.
  20. The CIA's Detention and Interrogation Program damaged the United States' standing in the world, and resulted in other significant monetary and non-monetary costs.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
5  Thrawn 31    8 years ago
Trump Proves Torture Works

Spoken like someone who has never been tortured. SERE school was enough for me.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
6  bbl-1    8 years ago

Trump proves torture works?  Not exactly.  It's more accurate to state that Putin proves that incessant torture works on a  propagandized fractured state, such as the US.

I will say one thing for Trump, he is in on the news, in the news, lying about the news and wallowing in the news twenty-four-seven.  And so much of it---it is nearly impossible to focus on any of it.

This article has nothing to do with torture as a discussion.  Instead, this article is another gush of flotsam thrown into a sea of flotsam that is so choked with flotsam that any discernable information is buried in the ever growing/floating mass of Trump flotsam.  And this my fellow Americans---is the only way Trump can survive.

 
 

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