More shit comes out of this traitor's mouth, his ego knows no boundaries......what a disgrace

Trump declares 'market would crash' if Democrats impeached him

Further, he warned, “If I ever got impeached, I think the market would crash, I think everybody would be very poor, because without this thinking, you would see—you would see numbers that you wouldn’t believe in reverse.”

Trump declares 'market would crash' if Democrats impeached him

What is funny is that liberal economists like Krugman declared that the stock market would crash if Trump was elected and we would enter yet another recession. Seems like the exact opposite happened, huh?

Actually it was trump that said the market would crash if he was impeached. 

Racist dog-whistles are an essential part of Trump's shtick. The Unthinking Faithful ^TM must be fed its ration of red meat....

Trump is simultaneously The Great White Hope and The Great White Dope.

Racist dog-whistles are an essential part of Trump's shtick.

Apparently they're also part of Tucker Carlson's shtick.   He's definitely employed at the right network to gin up the outrage of racist dimwits.

Not surprising when Tucker Carlson is your go to guy to uninformed opinion.

LEft wing NewsweeK:

"The South African government has begun the process of seizing land from owners in cases where the negotiation for compensation has stalled. Two game farms in Limpopo province are being targeted after the government offered the owners one-tenth of the asking price."

newsweek

Racism is so ingrained in progressives that a government proposing and now actually taking  land on the basis of race is a non-issue with them.  

Like facts matter./s

Like facts matter./s

Like the fact that blacks are 80% of the population but only own 4% of the land, thanks to the racist legacies of colonialism and Apartheid?

Like facts matter./s

The party of White Nationalism in America wants FACTS on this one?

Really?

That's both ironic and hypocritical!

The party of White Nationalism in America wants FACTS on this one?

I don't remember the DNC making any comments like that.

I've got an excellent article about "How a false White Supremacist meme became US policy" in my "on hold" folder. I've already seeded five articles today, but it will go up tomorrow!

The party of White Nationalism in America wants FACTS on this one?

I don't remember the DNC making any comments like that.

You think the DNC should comment on White Nationalism? Seriously?

Wow.............   

Hey Bugsy, 

Don’t misrepresent what I write by dishonest attribution ... it makes you appear to be disingenuous ... or ... lacking the knowledge to comment on the topic at hand.

One of these days some people are going to have to come to the realization that trump is bat shit crazy.

Nope. The only true thing we've heard from Trump was

I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters.
          -speech at campaign rally, Sioux Center, Iowa, January 23, 2016

The white man has been too comfortable for too long. We are here unashamedly to disturb the white man's peace, because we have not known peace. We don't know what peace looks like. They have been swimming in a pool of privilege. They have been enjoying themselves because they always owned our land.”

He said that when whites arrived in South Africa, they had committed “a black genocide” when blacks were dispossessed of their land. “They found peaceful Africans here. They killed them. They slaughtered them like animals. We are not calling for the slaughtering of white people, at least for now. What we are calling for is the peaceful occupation of the land and we don't owe anyone an apology for that.”

He said that the charges against him had been brought by the ANC on behalf of white people.

“White minorities be warned. We will take our land. It doesn't matter how. It's coming, unavoidable. The land will be taken by whatever means necessary.”

julius malema

africacheck

2016-2017 time frame 638 attacks with 74 murders.  Those that are reported

should be noted that approx 30% of farm attacks are on black farm owners as well.  So it's more than just white farm owners

the issue is the govt seeming condoning the attacks and implying the attacks will be worse in the future.  

This seems to be justified by saying it was never the white peoples land.  While they forget the land was pretty much uninhabited in the areas settled by Europeans.  When they made it prosperous the Bantu came from North Africa.  The closest tribe to the area was the Khoi SAN who were pretty much wiped out by the Bantu.  

Anyone that thinks this is not going on is either deluded by the MSM spin or happy because "white people hurt! Yay!"

i find it funny somewhat because SA is just dipping their toe into the waters.  In two years most of the land will be seized and it will turn into Zimbabwe 2.0.  Another shitty Area in Africa.  

From the original MAY, 2017 Africacheck analysis: 

Note: In October 2017, AfriForum released a commercial farm murder rate of 156 per 100,000. It was calculated using the same flawed methodology outlined below.

SH, it would help it you differentiated your own statements from those you are quoting from sources. 

the issue is the govt seeming condoning the attacks and implying the attacks will be worse in the future.

That statement is nowhere in your source so I presume that is you opinion. Please cite a link that lead you to that conclusion.

BTW, I note that the quote part that you posted about Julius Malema wasn't sourced at all. I do want to point out that at least it acknowledges that the government you claim condones the attacks arrested and convicted Malema for Hate Speech. 

That second part wasn't in the link. It was meant to be my own statements but by the time I realized it I couldn't correct it and it block quoted it all.

Oh... Julius was arrested for hate speech?  Oh he'd to make an apology?  I'm sure that made him tone it down then... oh wait

google

Few hours ago

"JOHANNESBURG - Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) leader Julius Malema says they're prepared to die if it means South Africa will achieve land expropriation without compensation."

Someone leading the EFF... a political group with clout... isn't a big deal I guess.

if you want some fun look up thinks like #kisstheboer on social media.  They put kiss instead of kill to avoid filters etc.  acting like the calls to kill white farmers in SA doesn't exist is amazing to me.  Like I said though.  It will turn into a shit hole like zimbabwe as soon as they get the evil white people out so oh well

news.au

Nothing to see here guys

That second part wasn't in the link. It was meant to be my own statements but by the time I realized it I couldn't correct it and it block quoted it all.

The first part wasn't in the link and oh BTW, you block quoted your whole comment AGAIN!

Nothing to see here guys

The nothing I don't see is the link that I asked for about your claim that the government condones the farm attacks. Was that an omission or a deflection? 

Not sure why I'm having the issue.  At least it didn't completely block quote it this time and only messed with the margins.

i already provided you with the link.  It's pretty straight forward.

Is the EFF a political party? Yes

Does the EFF have members in govt seats? Yes

So the EFF is part of the govt... and that means the govt is calling for it.  

Julius was arrested for hate speech as you said.. for singing kill the farmer kill the boer.

if Nancy pelosi was singing "kill the black people" while groups were doing just that...and he was still retaining power would that not mean the govt (at least part of it) was condoning it? 

Then he says today they are ready to die to make sure white farmers don't get money for the land... really??? That isn't condoning the violence?

Is the EFF a political party? Yes
Does the EFF have members in govt seats? Yes
So the EFF is part of the govt... and that means the govt is calling for it.

Would you like some mustard with that pretzel? 

Then he says today they are ready to die to make sure white farmers don't get money for the land... really??? That isn't condoning the violence.

Sounds like the EFF is getting their talking points from the Bundy's. 

I'm not seeing some important things in this story. 

Property is being taken from whites for the purpose of giving it to blacks and I don't see that disputed. There is controversy over compensation. I don't see that disputed.

I also don't see an explanation for how saying all of this is necessarily a white nationalist issue.

The whole thing just seems like another flimsy excuse to accuse the president of being racist.

Let’s put things in perspective ...  two historical precedents ...

White Europeans came to America and murdered Native Americans, stole their land ... then created laws to make it all “legal.”

Nazis murdered Jews during the Holocaust and stole the property of those they murdered.

I couldn’t help but notice that the neo-Nazi white supremacist Trump supporters ... seem to either been stone cold fucking ignorant of history, or self-serving-partisan in favor or such abominations.

I couldn’t help but notice that the neo-Nazi white supremacist Trump supporters

Instead of covering your eyes, open them to the realities ... no neo-Nazi votes for a Democrat!

What is funny is that it has been shown that there are around 5 to 8 thousand KKK, neo Nazis, etc..IN THE COUNTRY, but yet liberals think they are taking over large swaths of the country.

Antifa (Anti First Amendment) probably have about the same numbers, and liberals brush them off as just a fringe, while at the same time not denouncing the violence and destruction they cause everywhere they go.

I’d wager that Jews being taken to the death camps in a Nazi Germany prayed for an “Antifa” to save them.

If one had to pick a side between Nazis and Antifa, what would we call the ones who stood with the Nazis?

I’d wager that Jews being taken to the death camps in a Nazi Germany prayed for an “Antifa” to save them.

Maybe, but today's antifa seem more interested in saving their communist counterparts and destroying the property and assaulting anyone that dares think different than them than anyone else.

There is a reason why Antifa really stands for Anti First Amendment.

There is a reason why Antifa really stands for Anti First Amendment.

oh, wait....

You're making a joke, right?

Well done!

You're making a joke, right?

One would hope.

You keep forgetting bugs - it's anti-FASCIST!

I'm sure bugs just believes that fascists should be given a platform for their free speech in this country, so anyone fighting against the fascists having a soapbox to stand on and spread their fascist agenda would be "anti-first amendment" in his mind. Of course, no one is actually using any law to prevent someone from speaking their minds, whether its a Trump fascist spouting off about how wonderful their dictator in chief is or about how they believe white Christian males are somehow superior to others, they are all allowed to express themselves. What they are forgetting is that free speech isn't "consequence free". If you march in the street chanting "Jews will not replace us!" then expect some push back from the rest of civilized society who doesn't want that bigoted racist crap in our cities or in our government. Expect people to counter protest and shout back in your face that you're a piece of shit racist. There is nothing more American than that and it has nothing to do with violating any first amendment rights.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

While the fascists have every right to assemble, so do the counter protesters. With that said, both sides should remain peaceful and I do not condone either sides use of violence or vandalism. While most of the Nazi's marching were peaceful, the vast majority of the counter protesters were peaceful as well. There were some fringe groups on both sides who took to violence, some antifa punched a few Nazi's in the noses and some Nazis punched back, one going so far as to ram his car into the crowd of peaceful protesters maiming many and killing one young woman. I think we can all agree that the white supremacist, Nazi and KKK group fringe were definitely more violent considering they murdered someone. Now that's a real denial of free speech, that young woman will never get to speak her mind again all because of a piece of shit white supremacist that the right wing didn't reject but instead embraced right up until he rammed his car into the crowd, then they couldn't distance themselves fast enough. 

Nope...no joke...anyone that denies someone with different views from speaking, anyone that assaults those with a differing opinion, and anyone that destroys the property that dares speak against them is Anti First Amendment. They are closer to the American left than anything on the right.

no one is actually using any law to prevent someone from speaking their minds,

But Antifa is using violence to do so, but because that violence is directed on those you don't like, you are OK with it.

Got it...

because that violence is directed on those you don't like, you are OK with it.

I guess you somehow keep skipping over the part in nearly every one of my posts where I point out "both sides should remain peaceful and I do not condone either sides use of violence or vandalism.". So no, I'm not "okay with it", I simply recognize that there are degrees of violence, and while none of it is acceptable, the ones who have actually killed people are definitely WORSE. Maybe you don't see it that way because those who were maimed or killed were the ones you didn't agree with. 

"both sides should remain peaceful and I do not condone either sides use of violence or vandalism.".

You are right .I did not see this. My apologies...

True liberals/progressives/democrats do not condone violence or vandalism - whoever the perpetrators are.  

Seems like most everybody disagrees with you.

chicagotribune

heritage

westondemocrat

huffingtonpost

As you can see, I evened up the leanings of the sources so you don't whine "but the sources"...

There is a reason why Antifa really stands for Anti First Amendment.

Actually it stands for Anti Fascism. Not a big stretch to understand why most on the right hate them so much. 

You know, A Mac..Making those types of posts makes you look disingenuous, pretty much the same as what you accused me of. 

Many Obama voters, including African Americans, voted for Trump. Are they white supremists? Are they OK with black Africans taking land from whites? Democrats are still scratching their heads trying to figure out how they have had their asses handed to them in every mid term since 2010, and making those types of comments makes Americans know they still have not learned their lesson and will once again get their asses handed to them in 2018.

I have been noticing over the past few months that your seeds and posts have devolved to the level of several other rabid Trump haters on here. Please don't let it get to that. Thanks

Got statistics to back the assertion on black voters for Trump?

As for Trump bashing ... have you been watching the news ... not Fox ... but the news.

And please note, when I bash Trump or anyone else, my comment in doing so, always includes the rationale behind it.

And, you’re welcome.

Democrats got their asses kicked in 2010 because they sat on their dead asses instead of getting off of them to go out and vote!

And the same in 2012, 2014, 2016. Why are democrats so lazy?

Got statistics to back the assertion on black voters for Trump?

Trump got between 8 and 9 percent of the black vote in 2016.

cnn

There is an estimated 37 million blacks in this country. If 2/3 of them are considered voting age, that means over 3 million blacks voted for him.

That is alot, and more than Romney in 2012, and double what McCain, the now one of the darlings of the Democratic party, got in 2008.

I wish I knew the answer to that, Bugsy; it’s disheartening that in America overall, at best, we’ll below half of eligible voters actually vote.

it’s disheartening

It truly is.

There is an estimated 37 million blacks in this country. If 2/3 of them are considered voting age, that means over 3 million blacks voted for him.

" The number of black voters also declined, falling by about 765,000 to 16.4 million in 2016, representing a sharp reversal from 2012."

pewresearch

9% of 16.4 million is 1.4 million, so about half of your estimate.

And the fact is, they are not immune to the misinformation and lies that were spread during the campaign by pieces of shit partisans and Russian bots and not every black American was aware of Trumps long history of how he's treated and spoken about black Americans. If they had all been made aware of it, I think far fewer would have seen him as a viable alternative.

nd the fact is, they are not immune to the misinformation and lies that were spread during the campaign by pieces of shit partisans and Russian bots and not every black American was aware of Trumps long history of how he's treated and spoken about black Americans. If they had all been made aware of it, I think far fewer would have seen him as a viable alternative.

So now you speak for 1.6 million African Americans. Do they know this?

Maybe...just maybe..they did not give a crap about his past and looked at what he can do for them, something Democrats have yapped about, but failed to deliver on for decades.

Many blacks have gotten off the democratic plantation and are better for it. Their employment numbers show this to be true.

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Their employment numbers show this to be true.

Their employment numbers didn't just magically recover under Trump, their unemployment rate had been steadily dropping under President Obama. In fact, it dropped far more under Obama than it has under Trump just like with the total national unemployment. Under Obama it dropped 10% and so far under Trump it's dropped 0.8%. You do know that 10% is a far larger number than 0.8% right?

With black unemployment it was as high as 16.8% after the Bush great recession, by the end of Obama's terms it was just 7.8% a drop of 9%. Since then it's dropped to 6.6% under Trump, that's just an additional 1.2% yet you seem to believe that Trump has been the one who should be the hero for black Americans. Apparently some people don't do their homework and don't know the real numbers and instead just listen to the bullshit talking points coming from this disingenuous bullshitter in chief.

So here's a quick and easy chart for you use:

Obama: -10% overall unemployment

Trump: -0.8% overall unemplyment

Obama: -9% black unemployment

Trump: -1.2% black unemployment

Now maybe you won't get Trumps measly record mixed up with his predecessors outstanding performance.

It took Obama 8 full years to get the numbers he did. Trump has been in office for a year and a half and aready Black unemployment dropped 1.2 percent...if your numbers are true.

By that, when Trump is finished with his 8 years and if the trend remains, Trump would have reduced black unemployment about the same as Obama. The uphill battle for Trump is that at some point, black unemployment will level off to full employment whereas Obama had the advantage of far more blacks unemployed during his terms. .

Obama had a republican congress that vowed to never work with him on anything. The GOP is kissing donny's ass and he still gets nothing done that is in any way meaningful...

I couldn’t help but notice that the neo-Nazi white supremacist Trump supporters ... seem to either been stone cold fucking ignorant of history, or self-serving-partisan in favor or such abominations.

Not only are Trump and his supporters totally clueless about land reform efforts but given the GOP's long history of support for the SA Apartheid regime and its opposition to the ANC, it's not a surprise which side Trump's racist base is on.

David Duke and richard spencer both replied to Trump's tweet expressing thanks to trump for supporting thier cause. Go look it up. 

Of course, if this were to be true, you would have posted it yourself and the CNN/MSDNC would have been all over it.

twitter

twitter

twitter

Owwwwch!  That must have stung.  

That would require having a conscience and sadly, that is in doubt. 

I don't see anywhere in those tweets that suppression of whites in South Africa is their "cause". Looks like they are just making comments about it.

I can assure you that if this were a big deal, we would be hearing Flight 370 level coverage from CNN and MSDNC.

It's not a big deal.

That must have stung

Nope...didn't feel a thing.

None are so blind who WILL NOT SEE:

Richard 🐻 Spencer‏ @RichardBSpencer Aug 23

As critical as I am of Trump--and I'll continue to be--I've never doubted his gut instincts.

He could have begun his campaign on some typical Republican issue like tax cuts.

Instead he put immigration first--thus defining himself, indelibly, as the White man's champion.‏

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The default Republican position has been to conveniently ignore the plight of White South Africans.

Trump--spurred by Tucker, whose report was, in turn, inspired by @Lauren_Southern--has changed the game.

Ending chain migration ... building the Wall ... international sympathy for South African farmers...

None of these memes came from the GOP establishment or from the grassroots or Tea Party.

They came from Trump.

That said, opening up space to talk about White South Africans--giving his base the permission to seriously discuss White dispossession--is a monumental achievement.

That's just PART of his Aug. 23 commentary. 

Thanks. I was posting from my phone, hard to paste links that way. 

White Man's champion

that's pretty telling

It's not a big deal.

Sure, it's just neo-nazi's and KKK supporting trump... No biggie... /s

And kinda weird considering trumpy is more orange than white.

MSDNC

I am not familiar with this site, got a link to it? 

I am not familiar with this site, got a link to it?

Check your tv. It is one of the few channels that are allowed with your parental control.

Sure, it's just neo-nazi's and KKK supporting trump... No biggie... /s

Yea, you're right s/. Between 5 and 8 thousand total people is a huge deal. I guess you probably think that BLM, Antifa, the Communist Party of America, all socialists, etc, that support democrats, are just small potatoes.

Which one of those tweets did Trump "like" or whatever it is they do on twitter? Who cares about some racist that supports the president. Did you then or now have a problem that Farrakhan supported Obama, he being one of the biggest racists this country has seen since the 1860s and 1960 democrats?

You probably cheered that support.

Which one of those tweets did Trump "like" or whatever it is they do on twitter?

You seem to have lost the 'thread' of this thread. Perhaps you should review the content of the first comment, which you attacked, to remind you WTF we're talking about...

Who cares about some racist that supports the president.

You seem to since you were the one that questioned the existence of the tweets. BTW, you could have said THAT and been done with it, instead...

Did you then or now have a problem that Farrakhan supported Obama, he being one of the biggest racists this country has seen since the 1860s and 1960 democrats?

Obama denounced Farrakhan. 

BTW, whataboutism is weak shit. 

You probably cheered that support

Nope. Nor did I cheer when Farrakhan praised Trump. 

Between 5 and 8 thousand total people is a huge deal. 

David Duke has almost 50,000 twitter followers and Richard Spencer has almost 78,000. 

You seem to have lost the 'thread' of this thread.

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You seem to since you were the one that questioned the existence of the tweets.

I didn't question shit. You are the one that copied and pasted them so they must be real.

Obama denounced Farrakhan

And you took that as his gospel. Trump denounced David Duke and white extremist groups OVER and OVER, and you libs continue the drum beat that he supports those idiots.

BTW, whataboutism is weak shit. 

Just helping myself to liberal cards.

Nor did I cheer when Farrakhan praised Trump. 

Not many people did. What's your point?

I don't have cable or satellite. 

Yea, you're right s/. Between 5 and 8 thousand total people is a huge deal.

You forgot about the 62 million who voted for the racist King of the Birthers.    The GOP itself was on the side of the Apartheid regime.

I posted a response to your post where you copied and pasted a bunch of tweets from a racist. Do you follow that racist on twitter? Maybe it is you who does not know what the fuck you are talking about.

Nope, we're talking about racists thanking Trump for his tweet. You said you didn't see 'anywhere in those tweets that suppression of whites in South Africa is their "cause". I posted some of Spencer's tweets, in a line of tweets about Trump being the White man's Champion, about just that. 

Though the THREAD isn't about 'suppression of whites in SA' it is about racists thanking Trump for his tweet. 

I didn't question shit. You are the one that copied and pasted them so they must be real.

The hell you didn't. You said: 

Of course, if this were to be true , you would have posted it yourself and the CNN/MSDNC would have been all over it.

ANY thinking person would read that as questioning the veracity of Mr. Frost's comment. 

And you took that as his gospel. Trump denounced David Duke and white extremist groups OVER and OVER, and you libs continue the drum beat that he supports those idiots.

So I shouldn't believe Obama but I should believe Trump. 

BTFW, the thread is about white extremists supporting Trump, NOT the other way around. DO try to keep up. 

Just helping myself to liberal cards.

Poor excuse. 

What's your point?

Oh you need clarification? My point is that neither Obama or Trump control what Farrakhan says but y'all insist on holding Obama responsible while giving Trump a pass. Clear now? 

Nope. Nor did I cheer when Farrakhan praised Trump. 

Did I miss Scumbag's rejection of Farrakhan's praise?