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Obama Is 'Making Stuff Up' About The Trump Economic Boom

  

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Via:  xxjefferson51  •  8 years ago  •  38 comments

Obama Is 'Making Stuff Up' About The Trump Economic Boom
So let's look at some of the facts about the economy that Obama handed off to Trump. Despite what Obama now says, the economy was far from solid when he left office. In fact, it was in a slump. GDP growth was decelerating throughout 2016. Household income was flat. The unemployment rate was flat. The stock market was flat. And, "by 2016, wage growth began to taper off quickly," notes the American Action Forum's Ben Gitis. Even The New York Times, which has been gamely trying to grant...

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Growth: Economists expect the third-quarter GDP number — to be released this Friday — to be a strong one, in the range of 3.4%. Maybe that's why Barack Obama is running around this week trying to take credit for the economic boom. And he says President Trump has trouble with facts?

In a speech at a rally in Nevada, Obama claimed that the current economic boom has nothing to do with Trump's economic policies.

"By the time I left office," he said, "wages were rising, uninsurance rate was falling, poverty was falling. And that's what I handed off to the next guy. So when you hear all this talk about economic miracles right now, remember who started it."

Just the Facts?


Later in that same self-congratulatory speech, Obama said that "unlike some, I actually try to state facts. I believe in facts. I believe in a fact-based reality and a fact-based politics. I don't believe in just making stuff up."

So let's look at some of the facts about the economy that Obama handed off to Trump.

Despite what Obama now says, the economy was far from solid when he left office. In fact, it was in a slump.

GDP growth was decelerating throughout 2016. Household income was flat. The unemployment rate was flat. The stock market was flat.

And, "by 2016, wage growth began to taper off quickly," notes the American Action Forum's Ben Gitis.

Even The New York Times, which has been gamely trying to grant Obama credit for the current boom, now admits that 2016 was an "invisible recession."

"There was a sharp slowdown in business investment, caused by an interrelated weakening in emerging markets, a drop in the price of oil and other commodities, and a run-up in the value of the dollar," it explained.

Slow Growth Expected


By the end of 2016, pundits and economists were widely predicting a new era of slow economic growth. Why? Because for eight years under President Obama's leadership, the economy struggled to even top 2% annual growth. It never reached 3%. And every single year GDP growth missed the forecasts by Obama's own economists.

So for Obama to claim that he handed Trump a thriving economy is 100% pure poppycock.

What's more, Obama and other liberal Democrats insisted in 2016 that if Trump were elected, he'd send the economy into a tailspin.

Well, Trump was elected, and instead of faltering, the economy surged.

Since Trump took office, quarterly GDP growth has averaged 2.9%. Once the recession ended, the quarterly GDP growth averaged 2.2% under Obama.

Since Trump took office, the unemployment rate has been in a steady decline. Economic optimism — which languished for years — suddenly skyrocketed. The stock market took off. The U.S. reclaimed the No. 1 spot in global competitiveness. Family incomes reached all-time highs.

Engineering an Economic Boom


Not one of these trends was in place when Obama left office.

So what exactly is Obama claiming? That his policies failed to kick in until after he left office?

Talk about "making stuff up."

The fact is that as soon as Trump took office, he started reversing as many of Obama's economic policies as he possibly could.

Trump halted Obama's massively expensive new environmental regulations, and cut back old ones. He signed a massive tax reform bill that took the tax code in the opposite direction of Obama — toward lower rates and fewer loopholes. He signed a law partially dismantling Dodd-Frank, one of Obama's other big "achievements." He dialed back ObamaCare where he could.

In other words, Trump immediately embarked on a policy of tax cuts and deregulation that Obama has repeatedly insisted "never worked" to grow the economy.

Yet here we are, with growth topping 4% last quarter, and likely to top 3% this quarter.

Here's a message for Obama: When it comes to today's economic boom, you didn't build that.


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Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
2  Paula Bartholomew    8 years ago

Trump's latest lie is saying that here in CA people are rioting because of the sanctuary thing.  Earth to Trump....No one is rioting here over it.  I am surprised that he didn't say that he saw it.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
3  It Is ME    8 years ago

It is way funny watching Obama speak ….. again !

Liberals hate Trump for his "Me" moments, and then Obama comes out with his "LOOK at me" moment...... again, and "DUMBO is GREAT" ! 

Obama's "NOT MY FAULT" for the "Limp" then, but it's "MY FAULT NOW" for the "Fast Growth" moment...…. To Die for ! jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
4  Studiusbagus    8 years ago
The stock market was flat.

Starting with Trump’s inauguration, the Dow has risen from 19,827.3 to 25,075.1 -- an increase of 26 percent. That’s impressive.

But it’s not as impressive as its performance during the equivalent period under Obama. Under Obama, the Dow increased from 7,949.1 to 10,572 — a rise of 33 percent.

In fact, the Dow’s rise was even more impressive under Obama if you start measuring at the market’s low point, on March 9, 2009, during the depths of the Great Recession. That day, the Dow closed at 6,547. Between then and Jan. 5 — a 10-month period — the Dow rose by a stunning 61 percent. That’s more than three times faster than Trump’s rise over the same period in his term.

The unemployment rate was flat.

The unemployment rate was high when Obama took office — 7.8 percent — and it continued to get worse in his first year. It peaked at 10 percent in October 2009 and didn’t drop below 9 percent until two years after that.

But slowly, and more or less steadily, the rate improved. By the time Obama left office, the jobless rate had dropped 3 full percentage points, an improvement exceeded only by the slightly bigger declines during the Clinton and Kennedy-Johnson administrations.

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By the time Obama left office, the jobless rate was down to 4.8 percent — well below the historical norm of 5.6 percent (the median rate for all the months since Truman’s inauguration in January 1949).

But getting down to that point was a long, slow grind. So slow that over all of Obama’s 96 months in office, the median jobless rate was 7.7 percent — the highest for any administration since the end of World War II.

Household income was flat. 

The inflation-adjusted incomes of American households reached the highest level ever recorded under Obama. The Census Bureau’s measure of median household income reached $59,039 in 2016. That was $2,963 more in “real” (inflation-adjusted) dollars than in 2008, for an overall gain of 5.3 percent. Change-in-Median-HH-Income-3.pnghttps://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Change-in-Median-HH-Income-3-278x145.png 278w" sizes="(max-width: 603px) 100vw, 603px" width="603" height="314" >
The median figure represents the midpoint — half of all households earned more, half less. And while real median income hit a record level in Obama’s final year, it was a long, rough road to the top.

In fact, the 5.3 percent gain under Obama barely made up for the 4.2 percent loss under his predecessor. And for his first six years in office, median income was below the level in 2008.

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
5  luther28    8 years ago

Obama Is 'Making Stuff Up' About The Trump Economic Boom

I suppose I should know having read so many of your seeds that you fail to see the unmitigated hypocrisy of this.

While Mr. Obama may have stretched the truth or I will give you even lie from time to time, the lies did not come on a minute by minute basis as they do with one Mr. Trump.

ie: rioting in CA, Middle Easterns amongst the Central Am. group, rouge agents, I'll let someone else pick it up from here. 

 
 
 
Steve Ott
Professor Silent
6  Steve Ott    8 years ago

Why aren't many Americans benefiting from the robust U.S. economy?

The top 10 percent of the country holds 73 percent of its wealth, a share that has crept steadily up since 1986, according to the World Inequality Database. The most sweeping gains are concentrated among the top 1 percent; this group holds nearly 39 percent of the wealth. And they're arguably poised to become even more prosperous because Trump's tax cuts largely favored the wealthiest slice of individual taxpayers. Contrast that with the middle 40 percent of the country, a group that would historically be considered middle class. In 1986, they held 36 percent of the country's wealth; now, it's just 27 percent.

If the economy gets wages above 1970 levels, it will have done something. Otherwise, everyone just needs to go back to sleep.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
7  Thrawn 31    8 years ago

Both have been good for me and neither president had much to do with it. Aside from the stimulus, there isn't a whole lot done by either of them that had much of an impact. But, hell even the recession was good for me, property prices cratered making it essentially a two for one sale for those buying. 

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
7.1  Studiusbagus  replied to  Thrawn 31 @7    8 years ago
property prices cratered making it essentially a two for one sale for those buying. 

For those of us lucky to finance themselves or have cash..I was lucky to sell one near the bust and stole one in Orlando. Ya know that "Location, location, location" thing? As it turns out I loved the house (except it had 18' ceilings with the power bill of a mortgage payment), I hated Orlando!

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
7.1.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Studiusbagus @7.1    8 years ago
For those of us lucky to finance themselves or have cash

I was lucky enough to be able to do both.

Ya know that "Location, location, location" thing?

Oh I know, hence where I bought where I did, prices tend to only go up over time.

(except it had 18' ceilings with the power bill of a mortgage payment)

Ah jesus, fuck that lol. 

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
7.1.2  Studiusbagus  replied to  Thrawn 31 @7.1.1    8 years ago

Yeah, I shit my pants July 2008 bill $1,109.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
7.1.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  Studiusbagus @7.1.2    8 years ago

Are you fucking serious?!! Jesus, that is absurd! It wouldn't break the bank but shit, I know what reasonable is and is not. 

 
 

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