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SPLC Tells Americans to 'Fight Hate' by Voting Democrat

  

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Via:  heartland-american  •  8 years ago  •  228 comments

SPLC Tells Americans to 'Fight Hate' by Voting Democrat
The SPLC has wielded the "hate group" label as a cudgel against anyone brazen enough to oppose liberal orthodoxy on issues ranging from Islam to immigration to LGBT activism. The group branded ACT for America a "hate group," leading Hyatt Hotels to ban them last month. The Left-wing smear group has branded Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), a Christian law firm that won nine Supreme Court cases in the last seven years, a "hate group," twisting out of context decades-old quotes about...

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On the eve of the midterm elections, the far-Left smear group the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) urged Americans to "fight hate" by voting — and they don't mean voting to support President Donald Trump or his party. In fact, the group clearly intended to convey the message, "To fight hate, vote Democrat."

"The midterm elections on Tuesday are not about partisan politics," SPLC President Richard Cohen said in post called " To fight hate, vote ." Cohen argued that the midterms are "about the future of our country. Whatever your political persuasion, reject hate and vote."

The post began by referencing three horrific attacks and suggesting that President Trump was the source behind them:

First, a white gunman killed two African Americans in Jeffersontown, Kentucky, after trying to break into a black church.

Then, a man who reportedly identified as a white supremacist was arrested for mailing pipe bombs to President Barack Obama, George Soros, Hillary Clinton and other people President Trump has criticized.

And on Saturday morning, as worshippers gathered at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, a white gunman shouted “All Jews must die” as he opened fire, killing 11 people .

Behind each attack was the same kind of naked hate.

Notice the subterfuge. The SPLC only mentioned Trump in the case of Cesar Sayoc, the alleged "MAGA bomber." The political affiliation of the alleged Jeffersontown shooter remains unknown, and it seems unlikely this hater of black people would be glad to hear Trump hosted a huge meeting of black conservatives at the White House just last week. The Pittsburgh synagogue shooter loathed Trump, attacking him as controlled by Jews.

The SPLC previously attempted to tie Trump to the synagogue shooter, despite the fact that shooter hated Trump. The group also suggested Trump's opposition to "globalism" is coded language for anti-Semitism . Trump, the proud father of a convert to Judaism and a staunch supporter of the state of Israel, seems an odd target for charges of anti-Semitism. Trump's opposition to globalism has everything to do with the UN and loss of national sovereignty and nothing to do with anti-Semitism.

The SPLC's post went on to describe other horrific acts of terror:

Last week’s terrorist attacks were far from the first of their kind. Three years ago, white supremacist Dylann Roof massacred nine African Americans at a church in Charleston. Three years before that, neo-Nazi Wade Michael Page killed six at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin. And there have been many other far-right attacks and plots in recent years.

"This irrational fear that 'the other' — minorities and people of color — will take the country away from whites is the through-line connecting a spate of violence targeted at houses of worship across different religions in just the past six years," Heidi Beirich, director of the SPLC's Intelligence Project, argued.



If it were not clear the SPLC's remarks against "hate" were aimed at Trump and his party, the group made it clear Tuesday morning by tying Trump's immigration policy to "white supremacist goals."

The SPLC focuses on "hate crimes," and this obsession blinds them to the fact that there have been 1,705 deadly force attacks against religious organizations — churches, mosques, synagogues, temples — since 1999, only 5.87 percent of which were motivated by animus against people groups.

None of this diminishes the utter disgusting evil of the Pittsburgh shooter, the MAGA bomber, the white supremacist Charleston shooter, or others. It does suggest, and underscore, the fact that the SPLC specifically chooses the attacks that fit their narrative, conveniently ignoring those that do not.

According to  Carl Chinn , founder of the Faith Based Security Network, the deadly-force attacks were motivated by robbery (25.97 percent), domestic disputes (16 percent), personal conflict (13.6 percent), mental illness (10.97 percent), or gang-related issues (8.89 percent).

Chinn remarked that "the Southern Poverty Law Center is a flagship for what's wrong with the study of hate crimes." The SPLC brands mainstream conservative and Christian groups "hate groups," and focuses on instances of apparent animus against people due to their skin color, sexual orientation, or other characteristics. The group has been known to fall for "hate" hoaxes and to fail to correct the record afterwards.

Most important for any description of fighting "hate," however, the SPLC has published a "hate map" plotting every "hate group" across America. One terrorist used this "hate map" to attack the Family Research Council (FRC), intending to shoot everyone in the building. The man who shot Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) at the congressional baseball game shooting last year, and aimed to kill many congressional Republicans, also "liked" the SPLC on Facebook . The SPLC had repeatedly attacked Scalise specifically.

In its haste to fight "hate," it seems the SPLC has itself inspired a great deal of "hate." Furthermore, the SPLC wrongly listed Maajid Nawaz , a Muslim reformer, as an "anti-Muslim extremist." The group paid Nawaz's organization $3.375 million in a settlement, and about 60 organizations immediately began discussing whether or not they have a defamation case against the SPLC.

The SPLC has wielded the "hate group" label as a cudgel against anyone brazen enough to oppose liberal orthodoxy on issues ranging from Islam to immigration to LGBT activism. The group branded ACT for America a "hate group," leading Hyatt Hotels to ban them last month .



The Left-wing smear group has branded Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), a Christian law firm that won nine Supreme Court cases in the last seven years, a "hate group," twisting out of context decades-old quotes about homosexuality. The SPLC also placed D. James Kennedy Ministries on their "hate group" list, leading Amazon to exclude the nonprofit from its charity program, Amazon Smile. D. James Kennedy Ministries responded with a lawsuit .

The SPLC branded the small Catholic nonprofit the Ruth Institute a "hate group," citing the Catechism of the Catholic Church's position against same-sex marriage. By the SPLC's logic , 1 billion human beings belong to an anti-LGBT hate group headed by Pope Francis.

After the white nationalist riots in Charlottesville, Va., last year, the SPLC published a "hate map" plotting Confederate monuments. This map, released at a time when protesters were targeting these monuments for violent protest and vandalism, included elementary schools , middle schools, and high schools. The map even included Stonewall Elementary , which was named after a stone wall, not General Stonewall Jackson.


As Americans vote on Tuesday, they would do well to discount any advice from the SPLC. Voting Democrat does not constitute voting "against hate."

Indeed, Shane Mekeland, a Republican candidate for Minnesota's state House, blamed Democrats for inspiring the incivility that led a man to punch him out of nowhere, leaving him with a concussion and the inability to campaign outside without getting a headache.

"They're constantly driving this narrative of 'It's okay to be violent,'" Mekeland said. How do they drive this narrative? Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) called on activists to harass members of the Trump administration in public places like gas stations and restaurants. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.)  encouraged activists to "get up in the face" of Republican candidates and office-holders. Hillary Clinton said Democrats "cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for." Eric Holder declared , "When they go low, we kick them."

America's civility crisis is a good reason to vote Republican , not Democrat. The SPLC, in seeking to find any excuse to connect Trump to the latest domestic tragedy, seems utterly blind to the dangers of a Democratic mob. They're too busy finding anti-Semitic "dogwhistles" uttered by a president who welcomed Jews into his family with open arms.



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bbl-1
Professor Silent
2  bbl-1    8 years ago

Holy crackers.  The pipe bombers van in Florida is emblazoned with the Trump message of peace, harmony and love.  Dems must be nuts.  The SPLC is funded by the Saudis and Russians, right?

s/

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
3  Krishna    8 years ago
By the SPLC's logic, 1 billion human beings belong to an anti-LGBT hate group headed by Pope Francis.

Correct! And what about the other billion who are in hate groups not headed by the Pope (Peace be Upon Him)

Warning: When I get bored I like to engage in a bit of gentle trolling...hehehe :-)

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1  JBB  replied to  Krishna @3    8 years ago

Except that the SPLC has never designated the Catholic Church a hate group.

There is a concerted effort to delegitimize the SPLC by certified hate groups...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.1  JBB  replied to  JBB @3.1    8 years ago

Do not buy the rank bullshit being sold here. The SPLC legitimately certifies real hate groups. When mistakes are made, the SPLC is a big organization and there are a whole lot of dangerous hate groups out there, they admit it and correct it. This is indicative of a good organization trying to do great works which naturally draws criticism from the real haters they identify, certify and track. Of course the KKK and Skin Heads hate the SPLC. Taking such criticism goes with the territory. Knowing what I know of the SPLC, I would be very leery of any groups the SPLC has officially certified as official hate groups. Which are, unsurprisingly, those most often seen being critical of the SPLC. Full Disclosure - Morris Dees is a friend and my real name is inscribed on The Wall of Tolerance at SPLC HQ in Montgomery, AL...

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
3.1.4  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.2    8 years ago
The SPLC is already an illegitimate bastardized organization.  They are a terrorist inspiring hate group no longer of any value to anyone.  The sooner the SPLC is bankrupted and driven out of business just as they openly and deliberately try to do to their opposition the better off America will be.  

Do religious conservatives feel threatened by the SPLC? 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
3.1.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.3    8 years ago
When they only target the KKK, white supremacy groups, skin heads, neo nazis and the like we can get along with them.

Ah, so when they only complain about the last twenty rows of people at a Trump rally, then everything's a-okay... Those front 20 rows, totally different people. Sure, those guys in the back twenty will openly tell you about how much they hated having a black man as President for 8 years while the front twenty rows will only tell you how much they hated having a "liberal" as President for 8 years, who, for some reason, doesn't represent their values, you know, those of being born white.

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Silent
3.1.7  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.6    8 years ago

When these bigoted organizations want to bring about Christian Sharia laws, then yes, they are HATE groups.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
3.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  lady in black @3.1.7    8 years ago
When these bigoted organizations want to bring about Christian Sharia laws

What bunch of hyperbolic nonsense.   Christian Sharia law in the US?   Hilarious!  

You want to see good examples of Sharia type law?   Go to places like Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia.   You'd shit your pants in places like that.   In the USA?   Not so much.

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Silent
3.1.10  lady in black  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.9    8 years ago

When these organizations want to take away rights of people they don't like because the bible tells them so, then yes, that is trying to impose Christian Sharia laws.

I have no reason to go to those countries thank you very much.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
3.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  lady in black @3.1.10    8 years ago
I have no reason to go to those countries thank you very much.

Damn right right you don't ..... those freedoms aren't really under attack here in the US.  

In those countries your "freedoms" would already be heavily regulated by such laws ..... so give me a call when this country starts to become even remotely like that (which it isn't, not even close) and i'll be right there to help defend the folks being oppressed.

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Silent
3.1.12  lady in black  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.11    8 years ago

I don't want what happens in those countries to ever happen here, so these so called religious groups need to be called out for what they really are.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
3.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  lady in black @3.1.12    8 years ago

I wouldn't break out the worry jar quite yet but like i said.   If that ever becomes reality here, i'll be right there with you to help stop it.   And i know i'm not alone. 

Oh and by the way, i'm Christian.

 
 
 
epistte
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3.1.14  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.8    8 years ago
Not by them but by the weak minded intellectually lazy hate filled bigots who act upon their rating as if it were on tablets from on high.  It is those morons who do the real damage and defamation.   Yes, MBFC, I’m talking about you too.  

You are really angry because you cannot post articles1/* from The Stream, aren't you?

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
3.1.15  epistte  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.9    8 years ago
What bunch of hyperbolic nonsense.   Christian Sharia law in the US?   Hilarious!   You want to see good examples of Sharia type law?   Go to places like Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia.   You'd shit your pants in places like that.   In the USA?   Not so much.

Legislating conservative Christian beliefs as secular law is just as tyrannical as legislating Islamic beliefs as secular law in the countries that you mentioned. That is why we refer to it as Christian Sharia. The fact that not even all Protestant Christian sects agree with those Christian Sharia ideas is lost on you and many others.   All religion is to be kept separate from secular law and the state because of the Establishment Clause that creates a wall separating church and state unless you know more than Thomas Jefferson, John Adams,, and James Madison.

We cannot possibly have guaranteed equal religious rights for all people, regardless of their faith or lack thereof if the government is enforcing the religious beliefs of one group as secular law.  If the government would enforce the religious beliefs of even a Protestant sect then the members of every other Christian belief, even those who are also Protestant have fewer rights and that leads to fighting, social upheaval and instability of the government. The only stable and rational stance on religion is to keep all religion and the government absolutely separate at all levels of the government. People have  the right to believe and worship as they see fit but the government must be secular.  If you work for the government then you must keep your religious beliefs separate from your job.     If you cannot do that then find a job in the private sector that allows you to exercise your religious beliefs as you choose.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
3.1.17  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.16    8 years ago

You are unhinged today.

There is no proof to support your beliefs.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
Sophomore Silent
3.1.18  Phoenyx13  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.16    8 years ago
 The bigot fool at MBFC targeted The Stream and others because their an my religious beliefs include that Angels are real, that the earth as we know it was created in six literal days by God, and that there was an earth changing global flood that led to the world being largely as it is now.  For these religious doctrines Dave Van Zandt has branded The Stream as well as my personal beliefs as pseudoscience.  All because so many evolutionists are such hateful intolerant bigots toward us who disagree.  

so you are upset because Dave Van Zandt doesn't indulge and believe in your mythology as fervently as you do - he doesn't lockstep with your beliefs so you have branded him, logic and facts as your enemies since they don't agree with your unproven mythological beliefs ?

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
3.1.19  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.16    8 years ago
The Stream has nothing to do with the SPLC.  The bigot fool at MBFC targeted The Stream and others because their an my religious beliefs include that Angels are real, that the earth as we know it was created in six literal days by God, and that there was an earth changing global flood that led to the world being largely as it is now.  For these religious doctrines Dave Van Zandt has branded The Stream as well as my personal beliefs as pseudoscience.  All because so many evolutionists are such hateful intolerant bigots toward us who disagree.  

The Catholic church does not teach any of those ideas in their private schools. They do teach evolution.

This is their idea on the Great Flood,

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

On the subject of angels, 

They are not an article of faith and thus not de fide, but clearly are part of Catholic cultural small "t" tradition or folklore. Which does not make them irrelevant in any way.
 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
3.1.21  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.20    8 years ago
Dave Van Zandt

How is this guy a bigot?   He is about as white bread as is possible.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
3.1.22  Sparty On  replied to  epistte @3.1.15    8 years ago
The fact that not even all Protestant Christian sects agree with those Christian Sharia ideas is lost on you and many others.

Nah, actually none of it is lost on me.  

What is however lost on many is the level of real religious freedom (or not, everyone is free to choose) here in this country is unparalleled when compared to countries that can be defined to have real  "sharia" type laws.   It's not even in the same zip code here and its an absolutely ridiculous comparison to make 

So when progressive asshats comes on here and try to make that comparison, they are just pushing more of their usual progressive, batshit crazism.  

Nothing more. nothing less.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
3.1.23  epistte  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.22    8 years ago
Nah, actually none of it is lost on me.  

What is however lost on many is the level of real religious freedom (or not, everyone is free to choose) here in this country is unparalleled when compared to countries that can be defined to have real  "sharia" type laws.   It's not even in the same zip code here and its an absolutely ridiculous comparison to make 

So when progressive asshats comes on here and try to make that comparison, they are just pushing more of their usual progressive, batshit crazism.  

Nothing more. nothing less.

Religious freedom, like others rights has limits to protect the equal religious and secular rights of others from being trampled on.  Our religious rights are the right to believe in or not to believe god(s) and the right to worship as we choose to do. Our rights end when they come into contact with the equal rights of others because your religious beliefs do not allow you to force others to take part in your religious beliefs, just as they do not have the right to force their religious beliefs on you.  I used to think that this idea, as well as the strict separation of church and state, were self-explanatory, but I have since learned that is not the situation. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.1.24  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.16    8 years ago
Angels are real, that the earth as we know it was created in six literal days by God, and that there was an earth changing global flood that led to the world being largely as it is now.  

Too bad neither you nor anyone else has ever been able to even remotely empirically support such claims. They're just plain absurd! 

as well as my personal beliefs as pseudoscience.

If the shoe fits. Although, pseudoscience is still giving your beliefs too much credit. And your beliefs are not free from logical analysis or scrutiny simply because it's a belief.

All because so many evolutionists are such hateful intolerant bigots toward us who disagree.

Nice ad hom attack and whining. But you can disagree all you want. The difference is, those who accept evolution have scientific facts and evidence on their side, while your beliefs are just...belief (or wishful thinking). You have no objective empirical support. See the difference?  

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
3.1.28  Skrekk  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.26    8 years ago
Many Catholics have called God a liar regarding the Genesis account of origins.

Apparently those Catholics aren't entirely stupid.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.1.29  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.26    8 years ago
Many Catholics have called God a liar regarding the Genesis account of origins.

That may be because the Genesis account is a lie, or more accurately, a myth. It seems there are some Catholics with common sense to know that.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.1.32  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.31    8 years ago
I wouldn’t know as I’m not one.  

Yet you believe the stories depicted in Genesis? So that doesn't really change the fact of what I said.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
Sophomore Silent
3.1.33  Phoenyx13  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.25    8 years ago
I don’t care what Dave Van Zandt believes.  What I do care about is his personal bias and bigotry in labeling my beliefs in such a way as he knows others will use to censor the expression of those religious beliefs elsewhere when they personally hold another opposing secular viewpoint.

i never mentioned anything about Dave Van Zandt's personal belief's or personal belief system. Try reading this again:

so you are upset because Dave Van Zandt doesn't indulge and believe in your mythology as fervently as you do - he doesn't lockstep with your beliefs so you have branded him, logic and facts as your enemies since they don't agree with your unproven mythological beliefs ?

Dave Van Zandt looks for facts and evidence - two things your favorite mythology lacks. His personal belief system is irrelevant. So i guess we have established that facts, logic and evidence are your enemies, correct ?

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.1.34  Gordy327  replied to  Phoenyx13 @3.1.33    8 years ago
So i guess we have established that facts, logic and evidence are your enemies, correct ?

That's been well established long ago.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
Sophomore Silent
3.1.37  Phoenyx13  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.36    8 years ago
No, he labels others beliefs as pseudoscience so that the real bigots all across the internet who lap up his every word as their gospel from on high can cover for their own bigotry while censoring those who believe differently from him.

that's quite a conspiracy theory your conservative mind has dreamt up. i'm not sure why you can't comprehend that your mythological beliefs lack facts/evidence/logic which is why they are categorized accordingly. Just because you fervently believe in them doesn't make them verifiably true due to lack of evidence/facts/logic. Plus, as pointed out to you on other threads, there are Christian sites he doesn't label as fake since they stick to actual facts/evidence/logic. It seems you are opposed to facts/evidence/logic since they seem to disagree with your mythological beliefs.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.1.38  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.35    8 years ago
I believe all of the Bible.

And you also just affirmed what Phoenyx said too. But as I said, Genesis (as with many other biblical stories) is just a myth, with ZERO supporting evidence. So you can believe whatever you want. But belief does not equal fact, nor is it free from scrutiny!

he labels others beliefs as pseudoscience so that the real bigots all across the internet who lap up his every word as their gospel from on high can cover for their own bigotry while censoring those who believe differently from him

Wow, that's some active imagination you have there. Conspiracy theory anyone? jrSmiley_23_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
3.1.39  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.3    8 years ago
When they only target the KKK, white supremacy groups, skin heads, neo nazis and the like we can get along with them.

Willie Sutton was once asked why he robbed banks and his answer was "that's where the money is."  So it is with the SPLC --it goes where the hate is.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
3.1.40  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.35    8 years ago
I believe all of the Bible.  

No shit?!

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
3.1.41  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.35    8 years ago
I believe all of the Bible.  

Why do you believe a book of myths, when much of it was plagiarized from earlier religions?  Why do you choose to believe verbatim a book that was written almost 1900 years ago by very mortal men who didn't have the education level of an associates degree? Most of high school math and science was unknown to them.  The Bible is not the literal word of god, despite what you may wish to believe, because it didn't drop out of the sky and be found beside of the 15 (scratch that..)10 commandments. Which translation do you believe is true?

There are many contridictions in the Bible, so what passage do you believe in that situation?

There are many other religious books that are much older than the Bible, so why don't you believe them instead? Books such as the Bhagavad Gita. The Chinese book I Ching is even older.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
3.1.42  Sparty On  replied to  epistte @3.1.23    8 years ago

Secular freedom, like others rights has limits to protect the equal secular and religious rights of others from being trampled on.  Secular rights are the right to not believe in or to believe in god(s) and the right to worship as we choose to do. Our rights end when they come into contact with the equal rights of others because your non religious beliefs do not allow you to force others to take part in those non religious beliefs, just as they do not have the right to force their secular beliefs on believers.  I used to think that this idea, as well as the strict separation of church and state, were self-explanatory, but I have since learned that is not the situation.    Since so many secularist have a problem with and sanctimoniously mock believers who practice their own chosen faith.

See what i did there?   What you apparently don't realize is, that knife cuts both ways.    Not really that hard to understand for a truly unbiased mind.  

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
3.1.43  epistte  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.42    8 years ago
Secular freedom, like others rights has limits to protect the equal secular and religious rights of others from being trampled on.  Secular rights are the right to not believe in or to believe in god(s) and the right to worship as we choose to do. Our rights end when they come into contact with the equal rights of others because your non religious beliefs do not allow you to force others to take part in those non religious beliefs, just as they do not have the right to force their secular beliefs on believers.  I used to think that this idea, as well as the strict separation of church and state, were self-explanatory, but I have since learned that is not the situation.    Since so many secularist have a problem with and sanctimoniously mock believers who practice their own chosen faith. See what i did there?   What you apparently don't realize is, that knife cuts both ways.    Not really that hard to understand for a truly unbiased mind.  

All rights logically must have limits to prevent others from being harmed or their rights from being trampled. The question is where that line is drawn, and it usually goes to the SCOTUS to do it when they rule on Constitutional interpretation.  You should have learned this is your high school civics requirement.  

Do you believe that your religious rights are being threatened by the actions of others? 

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
Sophomore Silent
3.1.44  Phoenyx13  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.42    8 years ago
Since so many secularist have a problem with and sanctimoniously mock believers who practice their own chosen faith.

do you think it depends on how those believers choose to practice their chosen faith ? what if their chosen way to practice their chosen faith violates secular laws - which prevails ?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
3.1.46  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  epistte @3.1.4    8 years ago
Do religious conservatives feel threatened by the SPLC? 

I believe that's what all their hysteria is about.  The SPLC goes after people who are, if not directly involved in KKK or white nationalist/supremacist groups, are certainly sympathetic to them. 

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
4  charger 383    8 years ago

The name is enough to make me distrust the organization, sounds like they want to make laws to keep southerners poor.  They could have come up with something better

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
4.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  charger 383 @4    8 years ago
sounds like they want to make laws to keep southerners poor. 

Only the ones who make hatemongering their stock-in-trade.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
4.1.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.1    8 years ago
That would be the SPLC and it’s followers as bigotry and hate is about all that they do anymore.

Well, of course, that completely false but we also completely understand why you have to keep peddling that lie. 

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
4.1.3  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.1    8 years ago
That would be the SPLC and it’s followers as bigotry and hate is about all that they do anymore.  Even the Washington Post questions the in accuracy and lack of fairness of the SPLC and it’s totally bogus and discredited so called hate list.

Do you have a copy of the WaPo article? I refuse to trust the abridged version on WND or Breitbart. 

 
 
 
epistte
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4.1.5  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.4    8 years ago
You will have to read it yourself as I refuse to subscribe to or pay the WAPO a cent for anything.

I went to the WaPo site but I also do not have a subscription so I can't read it and verify that it says what you claim that it does.  If you are going to cite a written work as proof of your ideas then you need to post that same work for others to read. 

 
 
 
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4.1.9  pat wilson  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.8    8 years ago

Oh please, give it a rest !

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1.11  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.10    8 years ago

And, the SPLC will keep lighting up intolerant cockroaches of hatred...

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.12  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.8    8 years ago
I proudly stand by and endorse as a member or philosophically aligned with each and every single one of those conservative groups

That's not something I'd be proud of. More like embarrassed.

I as a member of NewsTalkers am personally a part of each and every legitimate group it blocks here despite their being mainstream with allies in Congress and that they regularly testify before it as well as argue cases before the US Supreme Court because of the SPLC lies.

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4.1.16  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.14    8 years ago
They are all great all American organizations

You mean hate groups.

that I am proud to associate myself with and defend against the bigots who would even try to silence them anywhere any place.  

Of course you are proud to associate with hate groups. Not surprising. it also speaks volumes about you.

 
 
 
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4.1.18  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.17    8 years ago
thus making the SPLC a nakedly partisan organization.

You mean just like those other conservative based groups too. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.20  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.19    8 years ago
The difference is that we don’t use those other truly valiant and honorable organizations words or actions to censor content

The difference is, your organizations only want to deny rights to certain groups. There's nothing honorable about that.

the bigoted anti Christian hate filled terrorist enabling SPLC sleazeballs.

So now you have to resort to juvenile ad hom attacks. How typical.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.23  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.21    8 years ago

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You don't actually address anything I said, much less refute my post or support yours. No surprise either. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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4.1.25  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.21    8 years ago
Nothing is more juvenile than using the hate filled bigots at the terrorist inspiring hate group the SPLC as a reason to silence other groups they target for partisan reasons and not legitimate ones.

Oh, sure there is (as well as being a pack of lies) and that's trying to mount an attack on the SPLC which has been the tip of the spear against hate and bigotry, and at great personal risk for obvious reasons, in the South and the entire country for decades. That's obviously the reason has become such a target of hatred by the alt-right. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.28  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.27    8 years ago
Actually the AG of the United States criticized the SPLC for its false hate of legitimate conservative group who are defending religious freedom.

While said conservative group/s try to prohibit or deny other groups their rights.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.30  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.29    8 years ago
The only ones denying rights are the bigots and haters who follow the partisan hate group SPLC ‘s ratings as if they mean anything to intelligent Americans.

What rights have been denied exactly? Last I checked, individual rights are still in full effect.

They are a garbage hate organization

Pot meet kettle.

My dream come true.

Well, you can dream.

 
 
 
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4.1.31  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.4    8 years ago

Jesus, HA.   You keep using rightwing garbage sources and then wonder why you can't be taken seriously.  

 
 
 
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4.1.32  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.1    8 years ago
That would be the SPLC and it’s followers as bigotry and hate is about all that they do anymore.

You can keep repeating that lie until your last breath but it will still be a lie. 

 
 
 
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4.1.33  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.27    8 years ago
Actually the AG of the United States criticized the SPLC for its false hate of legitimate conservative groups who are defending religious freedom.

I see you're didn't even bother citing one of your seemingly endless  supply of rightwing pukefunnel sources for that one.  Did you manufacture it yourself?

 
 
 
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4.1.34  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.4    8 years ago
You will have to read it yourself as I refuse to subscribe to or pay the WAPO a cent for anything.  

That's just one of the reasons that 99% of what you put up here as articles and comments is complete bullshit, a substance to which you seem to be completely addicted--so much so, that no amount of fact or truth seems to have any effect on you. 

 
 
 
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4.1.35  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.6    8 years ago
I will take World Net Daily and Breitbart at their word for the direct quotes that they attribute to the WAPO article and it’s author. 

That's obvious and explains why your comments are so devoid of anything resembling fact but chock full of evidence for why you really hate the SPLC--it fights bigotry, racism and hate groups and that really gets under your skin, right? 

 
 
 
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5  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    8 years ago

Why this author continues to put up extreme rightwing lies like this one and pretend they have any factual basis and expect this garbage  to be taken seriously  is beyond rational explanation.

 
 

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