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VA tells congressional staffers it won't repay underpaid GI Bill recipients

  

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Via:  spikegary  •  6 years ago  •  24 comments

VA tells congressional staffers it won't repay underpaid GI Bill recipients
One, who commented on the shifting answers and constant confusion stemming from VA, asked, “I mean, am I taking crazy pills?”

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For weeks, student veterans across the country have raised an alarm about delayed or incorrect GI Bill benefit payments, which the Department of Veterans Affairs has blamed on computer issues.

But on Wednesday, the department told congressional staffers that it would not reimburse those veterans who were paid less than they were owed, two committee aides told NBC News.

The news conflicts with a promise VA officials made to a House committee earlier this month that it would reimburse those veterans who received less than the full amount they were due.

According to the aides, however, the VA said it could not make retroactive payments without auditing its previous education claims, which it said would delay future claims. The aides asked not to be identified because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

NBC News previously reported that some veterans were forced into desperate financial straits stemming from a change in calculating housing allowances under the Forever GI Bill, which President Donald Trump signed into law in July 2017. When its computers were unable to process that change, the VA quickly faced a backlog of veterans’ claims three times higher than normal.

Because of those issues, the VA had announced earlier on Wednesday that it would delay the Forever GI Bill housing allowance changes until Dec. 2019 — and again promised that retroactive payments would be made to those who did not receive a correct amount.

But VA officials told congressional staffers in a telephone call on Wednesday morning that once the system is made right next year, they will not make retroactive payments to those who were underpaid because of the housing miscalculations.

"They are essentially going to ignore the lot and say that that change only goes forward from Dec. 2019," one aide told NBC News.

The reason the VA decided that it would not make the retroactive payments is because it would have to audit all its previous education claims prior to Dec. 2019, meaning the VA would potentially have to inspect 2 million claims, the aide said.

VA officials said this could cause further delays in processing future claims, according to the aides, an issue that caused some veterans to suffer earlier this year.

While this decision could mean the agency is flouting the law because it would not provide the correct amount of money to student veterans as required by two sections of the Forever GI Bill, the VA told the congressional staffers that they have a legal justification that would allow them to move forward with this decision.

They did not share that justification, however.

When asked for comment, a VA spokesman did not address the issue directly. Instead it reiterated that the agency would delay paying housing allowances in accordance with the new Forever GI Bill until the spring term of 2020 and instead pay housing allowances based on Department of Defense's older Basic Housing Allowance rates.

Attempting to implement the law would put “an enormous administrative burden for schools in which some 35,000 certifying officials would have to track retroactively and re-certify hundreds of thousands of enrollment documents,” Curtis Cashour, the VA spokesman, said over email.

Cashour also said that students who were overpaid because of the law’s changes or because of issues in implementing the law “will not be held liable for the debt.”

But he did not comment on those who were underpaid and rampant confusion continues to surround the issue, as it is unknown how many students have been underpaid thus far, how many more could be underpaid because of the changes to the law and how much money these veterans are owed.

Congressional aides described the situation as “frustrating.” One, who commented on the shifting answers and constant confusion stemming from VA, asked, “I mean, am I taking crazy pills?”

Under Secretary for Benefits Paul Lawrence is scheduled to testify Thursday morning before the House Committee on Veterans’ Affairs.

One of the committee aide said that members of Congress will attempt to clear this issue up before they move forward with the hearing.

“They need to figure it out,” the aide said.


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Spikegary
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1  seeder  Spikegary    6 years ago

Once again, the Vets take it in the shorts becuase the VA can't get their shit together.  I think its far past time to clean house and start over again at the VA.  I know poeple that 'work' there, though work may be far too strong a word.

 
 
 
Steve Ott
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2  Steve Ott    6 years ago

Another illegal act by the government. Geez, how unusual.

 
 
 
tomwcraig
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3  tomwcraig    6 years ago

Okay, I guess common sense and the government are mutually exclusive.  We can't pay those that are being underpaid, because to do so would require every single claim to be audited?  The benefits are supposed to be calculated based on where the school's zip code is and the former calculation was based on the student's residential zip code.  If you know that the claim was approved, then you should only have to calculate what the difference is and pay the difference between the underpayment and the actual payment.  It sounds like those working at the VA are either dealing with a mishmash of laws that are counterintuitive and contradict each other or they have no interest of actually working for the people they are there to work for.

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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4  dave-2693993    6 years ago
The reason the VA decided that it would not make the retroactive payments is because it would have to audit all its previous education claims prior to Dec. 2019, meaning the VA would potentially have to inspect 2 million claims, the aide said.

Sounds like it's past time for someone to roll up their sleeves and get to work.

 
 
 
epistte
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6  epistte    6 years ago

I'll just leave this here............

 
 
 
Spikegary
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6.1  seeder  Spikegary  replied to  epistte @6    6 years ago

Well, this is a seed about the Veteran's Administration, which is a separate department from the Department of Defense, so not sure why you are bothering to 'just leave this here'.

 
 
 
PJ
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7  PJ    6 years ago

I have no idea what antiquated system the VA is using but as someone who is directly involved in Congressional appropriations and obligations this should NOT have been this difficult or confusing.  

The first mistake was trying to go back and adjust the previous amounts in the system.  That will make it crash every time.  The proper way to accomplish it is to generate subsidized payouts through new obligations.  You can always tie it back to the original payout with sub allowances.  

Whomever is in charge of the division of budget and execution should be FIRED.

Also, this is a good example of why it's so important to elect leaders who understand that the government is not a business that can be run by shady colleagues.  Change requires transparency and a PLAN.  Sometimes that takes time.  This is another unnecessary cost to the taxpayer and a slap in the face to our military men and women.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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7.3  seeder  Spikegary  replied to  PJ @7    6 years ago

The V.A. has been a trainwreck for litterally, generations and the problems transcend elected officials from either party.  A head to toe, non-partisan rebuild is in ordr, kind of like the BRAC Commission, where political muscle was banned (at least at first).

 
 
 
Ender
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8  Ender    6 years ago
An "informal council" of three confidants of President Donald Trump who have neither served in the U.S. military nor hold government positions have exerted "sweeping influence" on policies concerning America's military veterans, ProPublica reported on Tuesday .

The three are Marvel Entertainment Chairman and CEO Isaac "Ike" Perlmutter, a Palm Beach doctor named Bruce Moskowitz and lawyer Marc Sherman, according to ProPublica . The report said it was based on "hundreds of documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act and interviews with former administration officials."

All three men are members of Mar-a-Lago, Trump's private club in Palm Beach, Fla., according to the report. The trio spoke with officials from the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs daily and reviewed "all manner of policy and personnel decisions," ProPublica said.

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I read this a while ago. They even had influence on how things are calculated and even computer programs used.

 
 

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