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2 Proud Boys going on trial over 2018 clash in New York

  

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Via:  tessylo  •  7 years ago  •  39 comments

2 Proud Boys going on trial over 2018 clash in New York

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2 Proud Boys going on trial over 2018 clash in New York



image001-png_162613.png.cf.jpg   Associated Press   45 minutes ago  






NEW YORK (AP) — Two members of the far-right Proud Boys group are going on trial this week for their roles in a violent clash with left-wing protesters in New York.

But no victims will testify at the trial over the October 2018   brawl   outside the Metropolitan Republican Club. That's because the victims are not cooperating with police.

The New York Times   reports   that the Manhattan district attorney's office is expected to rely on video from multiple sources in prosecuting Proud Boys members Maxwell Hare and John Kinsman.

"The primary evidence before the grand jury — and the only evidence of how the physical altercation began — was video evidence," a prosecutor, Joshua Steinglass, wrote in a court filing.

The Proud Boys and members of the loosely organized anti-fascist group that calls itself antifa battled after a speech by Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes.

The Times says security camera   footage   it obtained shows that the Proud Boys started the fight.

Ten members and associates of the Proud Boys were arrested in the days following the clash. Two of them, Hare and Kinsman, are going on trial in Manhattan this week on charges of riot and attempted assault. Prosecutors are not charging the defendants with assault because the charge requires evidence of injury.

Lawyers for Hare and Kinsman have indicated they may argue that their clients believed they needed to resort to force.

"Antifa's only missing accessory was war paint," the lawyers wrote in one filing. "They gathered and lay in wait in the Upper East Side to aggressively attack the Proud Boys exiting the club."

The Southern Poverty Law Center, a liberal advocacy organization, has designated the all-male Proud Boys as a hate group. McInnes, a Vice Media co-founder, quit the Proud Boys a month after the clash that followed his speech.




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JBB
Professor Principal
2  JBB    7 years ago

It is no wonder the righties are so desperately trying to shift the blame for the explosion of hate crimes, horrendous shootings and mass atrocities Americans are currently suffering onto a virtually nonexistant threat posed by the made up, mostly imagaginary, virtually invisible phantom menace and manufactured bugaboo known as ANTIFA!

97% of the horrendous mass killings suffered by Americans last year were at the bloody hands of Homegrown Right Wing Domestic Terrorists!

0% were committed by Anti-Fascists!

White Supremacists, Neo Nazis, Skin Heads and RW Fascists pose the real threat.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.1  MrFrost  replied to  JBB @2    7 years ago

White Supremacists, Neo Nazis, Skin Heads and RW Fascists pose the real threat.

True. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.1  JBB  replied to  MrFrost @2.1    7 years ago

Indubidubly...

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Silent
3  Dean Moriarty    7 years ago

“Antifa’s only missing accessory was war paint,” the lawyers wrote in one filing. “They gathered and lay in wait in the Upper East Side to aggressively attack the Proud Boys exiting the club.”  Very interesting. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1  JBB  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    7 years ago

That is what the Nazi's lawyers would say. Criminal lawyers defend criminals...

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Silent
3.1.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JBB @3.1    7 years ago

Did you see how Antifa vandalized the club the night before? 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.2  JBB  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3.1.1    7 years ago

No, but I did see Proud Boys picking fights and shouting Nazi slogans...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
3.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    7 years ago
gathered and lay in wait in the Upper East Side to aggressively attack the Proud Boys exiting the club

"security camera footage it obtained shows that the Proud Boys started the fight."

Damn those security cameras! If only that didn't exist those lawyers might have gotten away with their lies.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.1  JBB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2    7 years ago

I see that a disgruntled rightwinger shot up that Garlic Festival in California...

Trump's justice department says we're under siege by rightwing hate groups!

Thus the frantic efforts to destroy those tasked with monitoring hate groups.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
3.2.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.2    7 years ago

"Legan posted on his now-removed Instagram account the remark: “Ayyy garlic festival time. Come get wasted on overpriced shit.” He then posted a caption exhorting his readers to read the book Might Is Right , by Ragnar Redbeard , which is a white-supremacist manifesto . According to the Daily Beast, “ the book , published in 1890, glorifies ‘Aryan’ men , condemns inter-marriage between races and defends violence based on bogus eugenicist tropes.” Legan’s last post before he opened fire railed the industrialization of nearby towns , which Legan labeled as being “overcrowd[ed ]” with “hoards of mestizos and Silicon Valley white twats .”

Sounds just like one of these "Proud Boys" hating minorities and liberals with the same bitter animus. Yet many here seem to want us to be more afraid of Antifa than right wing extremists.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.4  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.2    7 years ago

Nazis are notorious for massacaring women, old people and children...

It is pretty much a Nazi's Mission Statement. Exterminate The Impure!

Have you noticed how many of them have a Russian or Slavic name?

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
3.2.5  livefreeordie  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2.3    7 years ago

256

He’s a sick young man who hates whites, Hispanics and Jews

256 U

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
3.2.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  livefreeordie @3.2.5    7 years ago
He’s a sick young man who hates whites, Hispanics and Jews

Apparently not all whites.

"exhorting his readers to read the book Might Is Right, by Ragnar Redbeard, which is a white-supremacist manifesto. According to the Daily Beast, “the book, published in 1890, glorifies ‘Aryan’ men"

He seemed to only hate the liberal "Silicon Valley" whites who he likely believed, as many other white supremacists like the Proud Boys do, that liberal and progressive whites are "minority lovers" or other racist epitaphs, which is true, we do love minorities and consider them no different than ourselves, but that's what angers these incel Aryan supremacists.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
4  Paula Bartholomew    7 years ago

Give me pair of Burdizios and the Proud Boys would become the Proud Cut Boys.

 
 

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