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Barr Warns Cardinal Dolan of ‘Militant Secular Effort’ to Curtail Religious Freedom

  

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Via:  tessylo  •  6 years ago  •  60 comments

By:   Tobias Hoonhout,The National Review

Barr Warns Cardinal Dolan of ‘Militant Secular Effort’ to Curtail Religious Freedom

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Barr Warns Cardinal Dolan of ‘Militant Secular Effort’ to Curtail Religious Freedom





Tobias Hoonhout


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Attorney General William Barr warned New York’s Cardinal Timothy Dolan of “an organized, militant secular effort” to suppress religion in “the marketplace of ideas” in an interview Wednesday.

“The problem today is not that religious people are trying to impose their views on non-religious people,” Barr told Dolan on his SiriusXM radio show   Conversation with Cardinal Dolan . “It’s the opposite — it’s that militant secularists are trying to impose their values on religious people, and they’re not accommodating the freedom of religion of people of faith.”

Citingd Democrats’ efforts to coerce religious employers to violate their conscience rights as well as their ongoing effort to expand abortion access, Barr has used his platform as attorney general to speak out about what he sees as encroachments on religious liberty. He drew   a torrent of criticism   in October over a speech at Notre Dame Law School in which he said religiously convicted Americans face “social, educational, and professional ostracism.”

The attorney general explained Wednesday that the Founders believed in “the centrality of religion to the health of American democracy,” and that a loss of popular religiosity was a danger to the republic.

“We believe in the separation of church and state,” Barr stated. “But what permits a limited government and minimal command and control of the population — and allows people to have freedom of choice in their lives — and trust in the people is the fact that they are a people that are capable of disciplining themselves according to moral values.”




Barr also discussed his relationship with President Trump in the interview, and told Dolan how it compared to his time as attorney general in George H.W. Bush’s administration.

“They’re very different,” he explained. “I love both men — H.W., was more low-key. He had a very strong interest in foreign policy in which he really focuses attention on. The interesting thing about President Trump is that he is very hands on, he’ll bring people in to explain things to him, he’ll reach down and bring the experts in, and he listens.”





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charger 383
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2  charger 383    6 years ago

Religion has had too much power for too long

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.2  Gordy327  replied to  charger 383 @2    6 years ago

And yet, some complain they're being restricted or persecuted. Go figure. Quite a laughable claim too, considering the majority of the country identifies with a religious affiliation of some type or denomination. 

 
 
 
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2.3  squiggy  replied to  charger 383 @2    6 years ago

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2.3.1  squiggy  replied to  squiggy @2.3    6 years ago

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lady in black
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3  lady in black    6 years ago

Barr is a despicable human being.

"Losing religious liberty/freedoms" (which they are not) is just a code word for not being able to discriminate against anyone who is not white; people that are gays, lesbians, transgenders and of course women.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1  Gordy327  replied to  lady in black @3    6 years ago

Nailed it!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1    6 years ago

She usually does. 

 
 
 
evilone
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5  evilone    6 years ago

There is NOT "an organized, militant secular effort” to suppress religion in “the marketplace of ideas”. There is an organized effort by rational people to curb Christian Exceptionalism. Being called out on their bullshit isn't suppression of religion it's push back on generations of suppression by religion.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1  Gordy327  replied to  evilone @5    6 years ago

Some seem to equate challenging their beliefs or claims as persecution or attempts to restricthe religious rights.

 
 
 
evilone
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5.1.1  evilone  replied to  Gordy327 @5.1    6 years ago

Yes, from the outside it seems as if they don't have faith an omnipotent deity wouldn't need me to kneel in subjugation for them to feel good about themselves, but in reality playing the martyr is just baked into their dogma. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1.2  Gordy327  replied to  evilone @5.1.1    6 years ago

Dogma, or delusion? 

 
 
 
evilone
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5.1.3  evilone  replied to  Gordy327 @5.1.2    6 years ago

Is there a difference?

 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1.4  Gordy327  replied to  evilone @5.1.3    6 years ago

Not really.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1.6  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.5    6 years ago
Only if one is a Unitarian Universalist or a follower of the religion of atheism. 

Spewing nonsense like claiming atheism is a religion only makes you look foolish. You do realize that, right?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7  Tacos!    6 years ago
“But what permits a limited government and minimal command and control of the population — and allows people to have freedom of choice in their lives — and trust in the people is the fact that they are a people that are capable of disciplining themselves according to moral values.”

I think that’s the case whenever you put power in the control of the masses, be it democracy or communism. If society doesn’t look to a moral leader, then the people themselves should be a moral people. I wouldn’t say that requires everybody be of the same religious belief or that they derive their morality from religion specifically. I do think it helps if most or all of the people have some set of basic moral philosophies that they can agree on.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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8  Dismayed Patriot    6 years ago

“The problem today is not that religious people are trying to impose their views on non-religious people, It’s the opposite — it’s that militant secularists are trying to impose their values on religious people, and they’re not accommodating the freedom of religion of people of faith.”

The problem today is that religious people have been allowed to impose their views on non-religious people for centuries, and now that they are being told "No, you can't do that anymore!" they're getting bitter and butthurt and do nothing but whine and complain about what they perceive as a loss of their expected, assumed privilege.

 
 

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