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The conspiracy theorists are wrong: Doctors are not inflating America's COVID-19 death toll for cash

  

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Via:  tessylo  •  4 years ago  •  9 comments

By:   Andrew Romano, West Coast Correspondent, Yahoo News

The conspiracy theorists are wrong: Doctors are not inflating America's COVID-19 death toll for cash

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The conspiracy theorists are wrong: Doctors are not inflating America's COVID-19 death toll for cash






Andrew Romano West Coast Correspondent


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Conspiracy backed by Sen. Ernst is wrong, doctors are not inflating America’s COVID-19 death toll for cash














Earlier this week, Iowa Republican Sen. Joni Ernst became the first member of “ the world’s greatest deliberative body ” to embrace a false online conspiracy theory that seeks to minimize the danger of COVID-19 by claiming only a few thousand Americans have died from the virus — not the   185,000 reported by state and local health agencies and hospitals .

Ernst, who described herself as “so skeptical” of the official death toll, even went so far as to echo the nonsense argument spread by QAnon and other right-wing conspiracy-mongers that medical providers who have risked their own lives and health to treat COVID-19 patients have been attributing non-COVID deaths to the virus to rake in extra cash from the federal government.

“These health-care providers and others are reimbursed at a higher rate if COVID is tied to it, so what do you think they’re doing?” Ernst,   who is facing a tight reelection race , said Monday at a campaign stop near Waterloo, Iowa, according to a   report by the Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier .


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Sen. Joni Ernst, R-Iowa. (Amanda Andrade-Rhoades/Bloomberg via Getty Images)

“They’re thinking there may be 10,000 or less deaths that were actually singularly COVID-19,” Ernst added in an interview with the paper. “I’m just really curious. It would be interesting to know that.”

Since Ernst is “really curious,” here are the facts.

Yes, Medicare   pays hospitals more for treating COVID-19 patients   — 20 percent more than its designated rate, to be exact. Incidentally, this additional payment was   approved 96-0 in the U.S. Senate — including by Joni Ernst . The reason Ernst (and all of her Senate colleagues) voted for it is simple: It helped keep U.S. hospitals open and operating during a worldwide emergency.

“This is no scandal,” Joseph Antos, a scholar in health care at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, explained   in a recent PolitiFact fact-check . “The 20 percent was added by Congress because hospitals have lost revenue from routine care and elective surgeries that they can’t provide during this crisis, and because the cost of providing even routine services to COVID patients has jumped.”

In other words, no one is getting rich by misclassifying COVID-19 deaths.


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It’s also fair to say that fewer than 185,000 Americans have died “singularly,” as Ernst put it, from COVID-19. According to   a recent update by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention , 94 percent of patients whose primary cause of death was listed as COVID-19 were also judged to have comorbidities — secondary conditions like diabetes that often exacerbate the virus’s effects. For the remaining 6 percent, COVID-19 was the only cause listed in conjunction with their deaths.

On Sunday, President Trump   retweeted a QAnon backer   who falsely claimed this meant that only 6 percent of reported COVID-19 deaths — that is, 10,000 or so — were actually caused by the virus. Perhaps this “report” is what Ernst was referring to when she agreed Monday with an audience member who theorized that COVID-19 deaths had been overcounted. “I heard the same thing on the news,” she said.

Yet Twitter quickly   removed the tweet   for spreading false information, and for good reason.

Despite all the innuendo, there’s nothing unusual about the way the government is counting coronavirus deaths,   as we have previously explained . In any crisis — whether it’s a pandemic   or a hurricane   — people with preexisting conditions will die. The standard for attributing such deaths to the pandemic is to determine whether those people would have died when they did if the current crisis had never happened.

When it comes to the coronavirus, the data is clear: COVID-19 is much more likely to   kill you if your system has already been compromised by some other ailment , such as asthma, HIV, diabetes mellitus, chronic lung disease or cardiovascular disease. But that doesn’t mean patients with those health problems would have died this week (or last week, or next month) no matter what. The vast majority of them probably wouldn’t have. COVID-19 was the cause of death — the disease that killed them now, and not later.

A closer look at the CDC data, meanwhile, reveals that many of the comorbidities listed by medical providers are complications   caused   by COVID-19 rather than chronic conditions that predated infection: heart failure, renal failure, respiratory failure, sepsis and so on.

Feverishly creating a baseless fiction from two threads of unrelated information — the additional Medicare payments and the CDC update about comorbidities — is a classic conspiracy-theorist move. But that doesn’t make it true.


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“Let there not be any confusion,” Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert,   said Tuesday . “It’s not 9,000 deaths from COVID-19. It’s 180,000-plus deaths.”

“The point that the CDC was trying to make was that a certain percentage of [deaths] had nothing else but COVID,” Fauci continued. “That does not mean that someone who has hypertension or diabetes who dies of COVID didn’t die of COVID-19. They did.”

In reality, it’s more likely that the U.S. is undercounting rather than overcounting COVID-19 deaths. According to a recent   New York Times analysis   of CDC estimates, at least   200,000 more people   than usual died in the U.S. between March and early August — meaning that the official COVID-19 death count, which hit 140,000 over the same period, is probably too low.

In the Hawkeye State, COVID-19 had killed at least 1,125 as of Wednesday afternoon. Over the past week, the state has reported an average of 1,177 cases per day, an increase of 124 percent from the average two weeks earlier. Its positive testing rate   has risen from 10 percent to 18.5 percent since then .

So while Republican lawmakers such as Ernst seek to downplay the lethality of the virus, Theresa Greenfield, Iowa’s Democratic Senate candidate, seized on her opponent’s baseless claim to underscore the gravity of the situation in one of   the only states in America where the pandemic is getting worse .

“It’s appalling for you to say you’re ‘so skeptical’ of the toll this pandemic has on our families and communities across Iowa,” Greenfield   tweeted   Tuesday, addressing the senator. “We need leaders who will take this seriously.”





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Tessylo
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1  seeder  Tessylo    4 years ago

Earlier this week, Iowa Republican Sen. Joni Ernst became the first member of “   the world’s greatest deliberative body   ” to embrace a false online conspiracy theory that seeks to minimize the danger of COVID-19 by claiming only a few thousand Americans have died from the virus — not the      185,000 reported by state and local health agencies and hospitals   .

Ernst, who described herself as “so skeptical” of the official death toll, even went so far as to echo the nonsense argument spread by QAnon and other right-wing conspiracy-mongers that medical providers who have risked their own lives and health to treat COVID-19 patients have been attributing non-COVID deaths to the virus to rake in extra cash from the federal government.

“These health-care providers and others are reimbursed at a higher rate if COVID is tied to it, so what do you think they’re doing?” Ernst,    who is facing a tight reelection race  , said Monday at a campaign stop near Waterloo, Iowa, according to a    report by the Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier  .

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2  seeder  Tessylo    4 years ago

“They’re thinking there may be 10,000 or less deaths that were actually singularly COVID-19,” Ernst added in an interview with the paper. “I’m just really curious. It would be interesting to know that.”

Since Ernst is “really curious,” here are the facts.

Yes, Medicare    pays hospitals more for treating COVID-19 patients    — 20 percent more than its designated rate, to be exact. Incidentally, this additional payment was    approved 96-0 in the U.S. Senate — including by Joni Ernst  . The reason Ernst (and all of her Senate colleagues) voted for it is simple: It helped keep U.S. hospitals open and operating during a worldwide emergency.

“This is no scandal,” Joseph Antos, a scholar in health care at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, explained    in a recent PolitiFact fact-check  . “The 20 percent was added by Congress because hospitals have lost revenue from routine care and elective surgeries that they can’t provide during this crisis, and because the cost of providing even routine services to COVID patients has jumped.”

In other words, no one is getting rich by misclassifying COVID-19 deaths.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3  seeder  Tessylo    4 years ago

In the Hawkeye State, COVID-19 had killed at least 1,125 as of Wednesday afternoon. Over the past week, the state has reported an average of 1,177 cases per day, an increase of 124 percent from the average two weeks earlier. Its positive testing rate      has risen from 10 percent to 18.5 percent since then   .

So while Republican lawmakers such as Ernst seek to downplay the lethality of the virus, Theresa Greenfield, Iowa’s Democratic Senate candidate, seized on her opponent’s baseless claim to underscore the gravity of the situation in one of    the only states in America where the pandemic is getting worse  .

“It’s appalling for you to say you’re ‘so skeptical’ of the toll this pandemic has on our families and communities across Iowa,” Greenfield    tweeted    Tuesday, addressing the senator. “We need leaders who will take this seriously.”

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4  seeder  Tessylo    4 years ago

Go back to castrating hogs you deplorable bitch.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5  seeder  Tessylo    4 years ago

One of the doctors that I work for, the Co-Chairperson for the Department of Medicine, also sees/saw patients several times a week in the outpatient setting.  A lot of our salaries came from that revenue.  She has been seeing them online/tele-medicining for months now.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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6  Kavika     4 years ago

Ernst is fighting for her political life. As of a couple of days ago she was behind the challenger Greenfield by 2 points (within the margin of error).

She is throwing shit at the wall hoping that some of it will stick.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @6    4 years ago

All the repukes are desperate now.  The fear of losing their gravy train jobs for doing absolutely NOTHING.  

 
 
 
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7  Account Deleted    4 years ago

All I can do is suggest those who are questioning the data, read the CDC Technical Notes that explain the coding, inclusion of pneumonia,  and why CDC  data does not immediately match up with case and deaths from other sources.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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8  Dismayed Patriot    4 years ago

What I find sad is that anyone actually has to even respond to such bullshit conspiracy theories. We used to just laugh at such ignorant hot air coming from a crazy uncle at Thanksgiving. Now we have to respond to about a third of our citizens who are apparently so screwed in the head that they willingly buy into so many completely loony conspiracy theories. From pizza parlor sex rings, lies about doctors inflating Covid death rates, the fantasy liberal 'deep state', vaccines supposedly causing autism, airplane contrail hallucinogens, fantasy George Soros funded protests, all of them are embraced by the dumbest fucking morons in our nation. I'm not saying all Trump supporters are the dumbest fucking people in our nation, but nearly all of the dumbest fucking people in our nation, the mentally deficient conspiracy theorists, appear to be Trump supporters.

 
 

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