Psaki refuses to discuss leaked Biden call with Ghani that shows he knew Afghan army was collapsing

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  2 weeks ago  •  27 comments

By:   Tamar Lapin (New York Post)

Psaki refuses to discuss leaked Biden call with Ghani that shows he knew Afghan army was collapsing
White House press secretary Jen Psaki on Wednesday refused to comment about the leaked phone call between President Biden and former Afghan President Ashraf Ghani.

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White House press secretary Jen Psaki on Wednesday refused to comment about the leaked phone call between President Biden and former Afghan President Ashraf Ghani.

Psaki dodged questions from reporters about the July 23 call, in which Biden told the Afghan leader to change the "perception" about the fight against the Taliban, "whether it's true or not."

"I'm not going to get into private, diplomatic conversations or leaked transcripts of phone calls," Psaki said at a White House briefing.

Instead, she maintained that the report was "consistent" with the administration's past assertions that "no one anticipated … that the Taliban would be able to take over the country as quickly as they did or that the Afghan national security forces would fold as quickly as they did."

"What the president conveyed publicly and certainly privately as well repeatedly to Afghan leaders is that it's important that the leaders in Afghanistan do exactly that — lead, show the country they are ready to continue the fight," Psaki insisted.

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki refused to comment about the leaked phone call between President Biden and former Afghan President Ashraf Ghani.REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst

Asked if Biden had been trying to push a "false narrative" in the conversation with Ghani, Psaki said she wouldn't "go into the details of a private conversation." But she stressed that there was a "collapse in leadership" in the Afghan government long before Ghani fled the country.

A transcript of the call between the two leaders obtained by Reuters showed Biden could well have anticipated the Taliban was capable of completing its takeover of the country.

But neither Biden nor Ghani appeared aware of how quickly the country would fall to the insurgents, who three weeks later, on Aug. 15, stormed Kabul, prompting the Afghan leader to take off.

"We are going to continue to fight hard, diplomatically, politically, economically, to make sure your government not only survives, but is sustained and grows," Biden vowed to Ghani.

During much of the roughly 14-minute conversation, Biden emphasized what he saw as Afghanistan's "perception" problem.

President Biden pressured Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani to create the "perception" that the Taliban weren't winning, "whether it's true or not," in a phone call just three weeks before the fall of the country. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst

"I need not tell you the perception around the world and in parts of Afghanistan, I believe, is that things are not going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban," Biden said.

"And there is a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture."

Biden also offered aid if Ghani could publicly project he had a plan to control the situation in Afghanistan, saying: "We will continue to provide close air support, if we know what the plan is."

Some GOP lawmakers expressed outrage over details of the call, even calling for Biden's resignation.
"The result of Biden's LIES was 13 brave Americans losing their lives," Texas Rep. Ronny Jackson wrote on Twitter. "HE NEEDS TO RESIGN!"

"Yet more evidence that Joe Biden is totally disconnected from the real world," tweeted Georgia Rep. Jody Hice. "'Changing perception' is political spin, not a national security strategy."

Despite her insistence she would not discuss what she called a "private": call between the world leaders, Psaki took a very different stance when it came to a famous call involving former President Donald Trump.

In 2019, she called on the White House to release the transcript of Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky — who coincidentally met with President Biden on Wednesday.

"It is not just the call transcript. The whistleblower complaint would likely have more details. We need both. And not just the call," Psaki said in a tweet on Sept. 24, 2019, the day the White House released that transcript.

That call led to his eventual impeachment, and later acquittal in the Senate.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

You mean Biden asked Ghani to lie about the situation in Afghanistan back in July?

More trouble for Biden!

 
 
 
dennis smith
Masters Silent
1.1  dennis smith  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago

Pissaki tells the truth about as many times as Biden does = rarely

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  dennis smith @1.1    2 weeks ago

And gets little pushback. It wasn't long ago that they would want to debate the press secretary. Now they let ler off easily.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago

Since the seed is based on a Reuters report, why not go directly to them? [ Deleted ]

Excerpts of call:

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.2    2 weeks ago

The key portion comes up quick:

BIDEN: You know, I am a moment late. But I mean it sincerely. Hey look, I want to make it clear that I am not a military man any more than you are, but I have been meeting with our Pentagon folks, and our national security people, as you have with ours and yours, and as you know and I need not tell you the perception around the world and in parts of Afghanistan, I believe, is that things aren’t going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban.

And there’s a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    2 weeks ago

I read the links Vic, I would not have posted them otherwise. This 'need' you talk of, would that be yours or the Administrations? Having chosen the NYPost over the much more substantive Reuters, I am left to surmise that it is yours.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.2.2    2 weeks ago

As you just proved the key portion was the same.

Please tell us you have something to say about Biden's request of Ghani to lie. Our readers must be tired of irrelevant points.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.4  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.3    2 weeks ago

I lack the hubris to talk to phantoms.

As to "Biden's request of Ghani to lie", I have read more than enough history, as I am sure you have, neither to be shocked nor to be petulantly partisan. The truth went out the window on Oct. 7, 2001 and I doubt it will come back before Oct. 7, 2041. You and I will never know and nor will our 'readers'.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.2.4    2 weeks ago

Have a good day.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.6  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.5    2 weeks ago

That I will, Thomas M. Leornard's biography of James K. Polk : A Clear and Unquestionable Destiny is available at my local library and my Covid passport has been delivered. Now there was a masterful liar.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.2.6    2 weeks ago

Did the buck stop with him too?

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.8  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.7    2 weeks ago

He was smart enough to only serve one term ... he got out before the buck landed at his feet.

To our 'readers', Polk was a magnificent bastard with the emphasis on bastard.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.9  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.2.8    2 weeks ago
He was smart enough to only serve one term .

Ah...Yes!

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.10  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.9    2 weeks ago

As will likely Biden but for different reasons. You have 3-1/2 more years to select someone sane. Concentrate on that ... the current wannabes are all wobbling wantonly into the throes of insulated voting groups.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    2 weeks ago

Biden asking him to lie was all part of the most perfect plan ever

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3  Tacos!    2 weeks ago

It seems everybody knew the Taliban were going to take over. They just didn’t know it would happen between Friday and Monday. Heck, I doubt even the Taliban were that optimistic.

 
 
 
dennis smith
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3.1  dennis smith  replied to  Tacos! @3    2 weeks ago

Everybody knew and accepted it except Biden. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @3.1    2 weeks ago
Everybody knew and accepted it except Biden. 

Everybody knew??

Really?   Biden single-handedly overpowered the entire US government?    Pretty impressive for a 78 year old guy.

You might want to (re)think your position.   You presume far too much power of the CiC role (it is not a dictatorship) and, bizarrely, give far too much credit to Biden.    Especially given you just wrote this:

dennis @ 3.2.1 ( external ) ☞ Biden has clearly shown that he is not in control of his schedule. His comments about others telling him who to ask questions and how many questions to take or just walking off stage because he has been directed to do that.

So which is it?   Biden the force of nature or Biden the 'handled'?   Make a choice (but make an attempt to think this through first).

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

I always find it interesting that you find these side issues to discuss. I'm sure our readers might be wondering what you thought of Biden asking Ghani to lie?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

It was a failure in judgment.   No doubt Biden was working the optics dimension, but that implies he did not believe the extent of the weakness of will in the Afghan forces.

As for lying, are you surprised that a politician uses lying as part of their toolkit?   I think nowadays one cannot get elected unless one lies (blame the electorate) so we wind up (re)electing liars.   And then we have the media partisans and their lies.  Trump, however, makes everyone else look honest in comparison.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.3    2 weeks ago
It was a failure in judgment. 

I see.


No doubt Biden was working the optics dimension

No doubt about it.


As for lying, are you surprised that a politician uses lying as part of their toolkit?

No, but at least our readers now know - when Biden does it, it means they all do it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    2 weeks ago
No, but at least our readers now know - when Biden does it, it means they all do it.

What is that supposed to mean?   I sure as hell did not write or imply that.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    2 weeks ago

( Vic, why do you not use the quote tool (the quote mark in the upper left corner)?   Just click on the paragraph that contains the quote and then click on the quote tool. )

 
 
 
dennis smith
Masters Silent
3.1.7  dennis smith  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

When someone has to boast about how great of a job they have done, they are insecure. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @3.1.7    2 weeks ago

That does not relate to anything I wrote.

Regardless, you did not answer my question:

TiG @3.1.1 ☞ So which is it?   Biden the force of nature or Biden the 'handled'?   Make a choice (but make an attempt to think this through first).
 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 weeks ago

I did several tours in Afghanistan with the 82d Airborne.  We knew over a decade ago that if the US and NATO pulled out of Afghanistan that the ANSF would implode.  This was no secret.  But for Biden to ask Ghani to lie?  And for what, to save his own ass?  I wish I could say I'm surprised but to be honest I kind of expected shit like this from a shit Coward in Chief. 

 
 
 
shona1
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4.1  shona1  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    2 weeks ago

Evening Jeremy..yes even our Diggers said the same..plus the Afghan soldiers and I use the term loosely could not be trusted.

Lost quite a few Aussies with Afghan soldiers turning rogue. In the end they had to be watched at all times...on and off the battlefield..

 
 
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