Biden administration removed lists of U.S. military gear in Afghanistan

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  2 weeks ago  •  31 comments

By:   Ben Wolfgang (The Washington Times)

Biden administration removed lists of U.S. military gear in Afghanistan
The Biden administration two weeks ago removed online reports that provided key details on the U.S. military equipment provided to Afghan security forces over the past 20 years, some of which has found its way into Taliban hands after the abrupt American withdrawal from the country last month.

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The Biden administration two weeks ago removed online reports that provided key details on the U.S. military equipment provided to Afghan security forces over the past 20 years, some of which has found its way into  Taliban  hands after the abrupt American withdrawal from the country last month.

Officials with the Government Accountability Office confirmed Wednesday that they took down roughly 400 studies relating to  Afghanistan , including a 2017 document that provided a comprehensive list of American military gear given to Afghan security forces up until that point. GAO officials said the removal came at the direct request of the State Department, which did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Washington Times.

The reports were removed, officials said, out of fear that they could be used by  Afghanistan ‘s new leaders to identify Afghans who had supported the U.S. war effort and target them for revenge attacks.

“Given ongoing events in  Afghanistan , the State Department requested we temporarily remove and review reports on  Afghanistan  to protect recipients of U.S. assistance that may be identified through our reports and thus subject to retribution,” the GAO said in a statement to The Times. “We did so out of an abundance of caution” about Aug. 16, a day after the U.S.-backed government in Kabul fell to the  Taliban .

GAO officials said that of those 400 reports initially removed, about 300 have been reviewed and are back online. But the 2017 study detailing all of the equipment given to Afghan forces remains under review, as do about 75 other documents related to  Afghanistan , according to the GAO.

Over the past 20 years, the U.S. provided more than $82 billion in arms and training to the Afghan forces, which quickly folded in the face of a major  Taliban  military offensive last month.

Watchdog groups have accused the Biden administration of trying to hide the extent of U.S. weapons, vehicles and equipment now in the hands of the  Taliban .

“The war in  Afghanistan  has always been a black box, but now we’ve reached an entirely new level,” Adam Andrzejewski, CEO of the watchdog group Open the Books, said in a statement Wednesday. “Biden officials recently directed U.S. federal agencies to scrub their websites of official reports detailing the $82.9 billion in military equipment and training provided to the Afghan security forces since 2001.”

The  Taliban  on Wednesday held a victory parade, showing off much of the U.S. gear it has acquired over the past several weeks.  


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

More damage control submitted here at the shrine of damage control.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago

This is another area where I am surprised that our military ops did not have a contingency plan for the equipment and supplies.   I find that next to impossible to believe given contingency planning is core to the military.    And this is very important since the last thing one wanted was to arm and supply the Taliban.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @1.1    2 weeks ago

There needs to be a full investigation from the top down of the Biden administration, the Pentagon, and CIA (all of the lack of intelligence agencies for that matter). The amount of ineptitude with the withdrawal and evacuation is staggering. 

But it seems as if the Biden administration and Democrats have no interest in investigations. They are now flipping the script saying "There was no other way to do it; and bragging about "how many people were air lifted out of the country, and no other country in the world could have done it." Forget the fact that the vast majority of those evacuated were not US citizens (who knows how many are still in Afghanistan- don't ask the Biden administration- they don't know and have no plan for getting them out anyways; or the Afghans that aided us (thousands still stranded and being hunted by the Taliban).

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1    2 weeks ago

Perhaps they did. Maybe they were faced with a hard time deadline for getting troops out and didn't even have time to transport all that equipment. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

Investigation or not (and most likely not) Biden and his handlers are not going to just walk away from this. God only knows what comes next.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    2 weeks ago

Does not sound like our military.   

Transporting the equipment is not the only option.   It can be destroyed.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.1    2 weeks ago
But it seems as if the Biden administration and Democrats have no interest in investigations.

Of course not.   No administration wants investigations of its inner workings.

Forget the fact that the vast majority of those evacuated were not US citizens (who knows how many are still in Afghanistan- don't ask the Biden administration- they don't know and have no plan for getting them out anyways; or the Afghans that aided us (thousands still stranded and being hunted by the Taliban).

The stats I saw were 6,000 US citizens as of July and less than 200 of them remain.   Do you have different stats?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.6  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @1.1    2 weeks ago
TiG wrote: "This is another area where I am surprised that our military ops did not have a contingency plan for the equipment and supplies.   I find that next to impossible to believe given contingency planning is core to the military.    And this is very important since the last thing one wanted was to arm and supply the Taliban." 
There appears that there was little if any contingency planning for any aspect of this withdrawal...and they had 20 years to do it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.6    2 weeks ago

Greg, the button in the upper left hand corner is a toggle.   You can click on the lower paragraph and unquote it.   Your comment looks as though it is simply two quotes.

There appears that there was little if any contingency planning for any aspect of this withdrawal...and they had 20 years to do it.

Does that sound like the USA military to you?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.4    2 weeks ago
Does not sound like our military.

No. The no mainly pertains to the lower ranks. I'm no longer sure of the flag officers.


Transporting the equipment is not the only option.   It can be destroyed.

Destroying is preferable to allowing the Taliban to have it. 

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.9  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.8    2 weeks ago

Armchair Generals always get it all right...

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.8    2 weeks ago
Destroying is preferable to allowing the Taliban to have it. 

Of course, so the question (still) is why this was not done.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.11  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @1.1.9    2 weeks ago

Even they could have done better

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.12  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.10    2 weeks ago

So think it was a choice?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @1.1.9    2 weeks ago

We are asking questions JBB.   There were options on the table yet our military took an unusual turn by leaving operational and saleable equipment and supplies behind.  

Aren't you curious as to why?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.14  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.12    2 weeks ago

Of course it was a choice.   Hard to imagine that the US military did not have alternate scenarios they could have pursued.   Given it is likely that they knew the weakness of the Afghan army they could have taken preemptive measures to ensure the equipment and supplies are located and ready to be transported or destroyed.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.15  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.14    2 weeks ago

Any thoughts on why such a decision would be made?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.16  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.15    2 weeks ago

No.   This is one of several factors that have bothered me the entire time.

Trouble is, when I write of this the partisans jump in and spend their time trying to make it strictly an indictment of Biden.   No way to have a conversation with those with a single-minded partisan objective.

I suspect we will never know what caused the Afghanistan withdrawal mission to proceed as it did.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.17  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

The Biden Administration has been offering contradictory numbers between Milley, Blinken, and Biden since the start of the evacuation. I don't think they know how many US citizens are left; they are just guessing based on the number of requests they had for evacuation as compared to the number they know got out. The Taliban weren't stupid, they destroyed the cell towers in many parts of the country- effectively cutting off communication in those areas. 

Biden is assuming that any US citizen that doesn't contact the embassy in Afghanistan doesn't want to get out; not that they couldn't because the towers were down; and they couldn't reach Kabul due to Taliban checkpoints, and areas controlled by Al Qaeda, ISIS/ISIL, and ISIS-K. 

Some of the remaining 1,000 may not want to leave, Mr. Blinken said, describing an ever-changing estimate that the Biden administration has tried to pin down as American troops wind down an evacuation effort that has overwhelmed the airport in Kabul, the capital.

That number does not include legal permanent American residents or green card holders, he said.

Mr. Blinken said more than 4,500 U.S. citizens have so far been flown out of Afghanistan since Aug. 14, as the Taliban bore down on Kabul. He said the State Department has sent more than 20,000 emails and made 45,000 phone calls to identify and locate Americans in Afghanistan ahead of an Aug. 31 withdrawal of U.S. troops from the country after 20 years of war.

Sorry, I don't trust their numbers. They are guessing; and I think very low on purpose- in order to make it easier on themselves. The real numbers they abandoned in Afghanistan may take years to figure out. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.18  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.17    2 weeks ago

If you reject all stats then how do you form an opinion one way or the other?   All you could state is: ‘I have no idea’.

I will go with the reported stats as being more accurate than ‘I have no idea’.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2  Ed-NavDoc    2 weeks ago

Cannot have the Biden administration embarrassing themselves more than they already have, can we?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2    2 weeks ago

Once they tried to use the Intelligence agencies they were done. The leaks will just keep coming.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    2 weeks ago

As more of these tidbits emerge it's becoming more evident that the Biden administration is just making things up as they go.  Apparently none of this was planned so there's a scurry to react after the fact.

The situation in Afghanistan was known, there weren't any surprises here.  Planning for the best scenario while ignoring the worst scenario isn't the way to do things.  If the Biden administration can't handle a known and controllable situation then how will the Biden administration respond to a real emergency?

The rational conclusion to be drawn from what happened in Afghanistan is 'we're so screwed'.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @3    2 weeks ago

"As more of these tidbits emerge it's becoming more evident that the Biden administration is just making things up as they go.  Apparently none of this was planned so there's a scurry to react after the fact."

Nah, that would be the former criminal enterprise of an 'administration'.  #45

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Tessylo @3.1    2 weeks ago
Nah, that would be the former criminal enterprise of an 'administration'.

Joe Biden has successfully kicked Orange Man Bad off the news cycle. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

And kept the military rank & file & their families voting REPUBLICAN!

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.3  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    2 weeks ago
And kept the military rank & file & their families voting REPUBLICAN!

Who cares?  The only people in the military that matter are dead Marines.  And the dead vote Democrat, don't they?

It's always interesting how other branches of the service are listed with an 'and'.  As if they just tag along to support the Marines.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

Nah!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.3    2 weeks ago
And the dead vote Democrat, don't they?

Always


It's always interesting how other branches of the service are listed with an 'and'.  As if they just tag along to support the Marines.

The Marines were once thought of as strictly an offensive force, which is so strange that they would be given missions like occupying an airport.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.6  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.5    2 weeks ago
The Marines were once thought of as strictly an offensive force, which is so strange that they would be given missions like occupying an airport.

The Marine Corps is searching for relevance in a battle environment.  Joe Biden can relate.

Continued planning for amphibious assault may provide clues to military planning in Afghanistan.  We're still trying to fight the wrong war.  The Afghanistan withdrawal plan might have worked pretty well in Eastern Europe.  But to our political and military planners the Asian theater appears to be inscrutable.  We've been sucked into a NATO trap.

Joe Biden is even attempting to deal with the Taliban as if they were Eastern Europeans.  None of our planners seem to take into account that the Taliban aren't fighting to win.  The Taliban fight so we lose.  Our loss is their victory and they have the patience to allow us to defeat ourselves.  Joe Biden doesn't get it.  Our diplomatic and military planners don't get it.  And their planning shows that.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4  Tacos!    2 weeks ago

I see no justification for leaving people or material behind. If we were leaving of our own accord, and not being forced out, then we should have had full control over the process. We are entirely responsible for anyone or anything that was left behind.

 
 
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