FBI found document on foreign nuclear defenses at Mar-a-Lago - report | Donald Trump | The Guardian

  

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By:   Dani Anguiano (the Guardian)

FBI found document on foreign nuclear defenses at Mar-a-Lago - report | Donald Trump | The Guardian
Recovered records include material even senior Biden officials were not authorized to view, Washington Post reports

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The FBI recovered a document describing a foreign government's nuclear capabilities during its search of Mar-a-Lago, the Washington Post reported on Tuesday.

The Post, citing unnamed sources, did not identify the foreign government named in the document describing the country's military defenses.

The content of the more than 11,000 government documents and photographs FBI agents recovered from Donald Trump's Florida estate last month has not been revealed, but previous reporting from the Post indicated classified documents about nuclear weapons were among the items federal authorities were looking for.

Some of the records seized from Donald Trump's Florida estate are typically closely guarded, the newspaper reported, and have "a designated control officer" to monitor the documents' location.

What is a special master and why does Donald Trump want one? Read more

Among the records recovered by the FBI were documents detailing top-secret US operations that require special clearances "on a need-to-know basis", beyond a top-secret clearance, according to the Post report. Some of the Biden administration's most senior national security officials were not authorized to review some of the documents because they are so restricted, the Post said.

Trump is under investigation by the justice department for his unauthorized removal of highly sensitive government records from the White House and for allegedly improperly storing them at Mar-a-Lago.

The findings are the latest twist in a weeks-long saga that began when US government agents conducted an unprecedented search of the former president's Florida home. Trump has attacked the department, including at a weekend rally where he called the FBI and DoJ "vicious monsters". Many others, including Trump's former attorney general, William Barr, have defended the investigation into his retention of government records, saying that it posed a major national security risk.

A federal judge recently granted Trump's request for the appointment of a special master to review the documents seized from Mar-a-Lago on 8 August. The decision by Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee, temporarily prevented the justice department from reviewing records for its criminal inquiry until after the the special master's review.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

The Washington Post is again quoting unnamed sources?

Let's see if we can put this little puzzle together.

1) Only the DOJ/FBI has this information and they aren't supposed to be leaking.

2)  A day after a federal judge orders the appointment of a special master, a new leak appears in the Post saying that the seized documents included material discussing our nuclear capabilities.

3) The DOJ and FBI are rogue organization operating with bias & malice.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago
The Washington Post is again quoting unnamed sources?

Ah yes, there it is again, the double standard where conservatives will cling to unnamed sources who leak anything against Democrats while disbelieving anything leaked about Republicans or Trump.

Let's see if we can put this little puzzle together.

There is no puzzle, just the high likelihood that Trump did have top secret documents and lied about having returned them all.

Only the DOJ/FBI has this information and they aren't supposed to be leaking.

Again, it's not surprising to see sad desperate rightwing conservatives more upset at the leak than of the HUGE counterintelligence threat and blatant violation of the law if what the leak claims proves to be true.

A day after a federal judge orders the appointment of a special master, a new leak appears in the Post saying that the seized documents included material discussing our nuclear capabilities.

Right, it's a more egregious bias for a leak to occur than for an inexperienced newly appointed judge that Trump had just appointed in November of 2020 to order a "special master" which almost every legal expert has said was not only unwise and unnecessary but also clearly a biased attempt to shield the former President not based on any actual legal reasoning.

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The DOJ and FBI are rogue organization operating with bias & malice.

Thanks for your clearly biased and delusional opinion that's worth about as much as a wad of used toilet paper.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.1  Ender  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    3 weeks ago

Seems some people like to blame everyone, other than the main source himself.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    3 weeks ago

Can't handle the truth?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    3 weeks ago
Ah yes, there it is again, the double standard

There is only one double standard and it's being utilized by democrats.


There is no puzzle, just the high likelihood that Trump did have top secret documents and lied about having returned them all.

These leaks seem to come when the Justice Department is facing opposing actions in court, have you noticed?


Again, it's not surprising to see sad desperate rightwing conservatives more upset at the leak than of the HUGE counterintelligence threat and blatant violation of the law if what the leak claims proves to be true.

They are not always true, as we learned during the Russia/collusion hoax. What they do is frame the public debate through selective releases of information.



Right, it's a more egregious bias for a leak to occur than for an inexperienced newly appointed judge that Trump had just appointed in November of 2020 to order a "special master" which almost every legal expert has said was not only unwise and unnecessary but also clearly a biased attempt to shield the former President not based on any actual legal reasoning.


Ahh, the left! The fury shown in the last two days is chilling. I don't see many reasoned legal disagreements with her order.  What I see is Cannon being attacked personally and ethically. Didn't leftist Law Professor Laurence Tribe compare the order to appoint a special master analogous to the Dred Scott decision?

Where are all the former intelligence officials who called the Hunter Laptop story Russian dissinformation?


Thanks for your clearly biased and delusional opinion that's worth about as much as a wad of used toilet paper.

I'll try and send you one.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    3 weeks ago
Ah yes, there it is again, the double standard where conservatives will cling to unnamed sources who leak anything against Democrats while disbelieving anything leaked about Republicans or Trump.

So Democrats didn't do the same regarding the Hunter Biden story?

LMAO, calling out hypocrisy while exhibiting the same!

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago
2)  A day after a federal judge orders the appointment of a special master, a new leak appears in the Post saying that the seized documents included material discussing our nuclear capabilities.

Vic, your seed states that the documents 'describing a foreign government's nuclear capabilities, NOT ours. 

Reading is fundamental.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.2    3 weeks ago

Dulay, It's always best to take on an argument in a straightforward manner. You like to find ways to discredit the author.

For the record, some of the leaks also claimed that Trump took US nuclear documents.

Here is yet ANOTHER LINK:




The article is about DOJ/FBI leaks.

Do you deny there is leaking?

Shall we wait for the usual suspects to call it a "conspiracy theory?"

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.2  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    3 weeks ago
Dulay, It's always best to take on an argument in a straightforward manner.

As everyone can see, I did just that. Oh, and BTFW, I didn't make an argument, I called out your mistake.

You like to find ways to discredit the author.

Vic, you made a stark mistake, which it seems you won't admit to. That is what 'discredits the author'. 

For the record, some of the leaks also claimed that Trump took US nuclear documents.

For the record, my comment addressed your seed and your comment.

Don't like it? 

Tough. 

Here is yet ANOTHER LINK:

As is your MO, your link does NOT claim that 'Trump took US nuclear documents'. 

WHY do you keep trying to play that gaslighting game with me Vic? It hasn't worked even once. 

The article is about DOJ/FBI leaks.

More bullshit Vic. The only thing in that link about any kind of 'leaks' is from Trump's lawyer:

Trump's attorney, Christopher Kise,  complained  about the leaking information, arguing that it causes "damage to public confidence in the integrity of the system." But the integrity that is coming under sharpest question is that of Trump and his defenders.

Your link is an utter failure and insults 'our' intelligence'.

Do you deny there is leaking?

I don't have the required information on the sources of the stories to know if it's 'leaks' or not. Unlike you, I won't assume.

Shall we wait for the usual suspects to call it a "conspiracy theory?"

Call what a 'conspiracy theory' Vic? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2  Jeremy Retired in NC    3 weeks ago

There seems to be A LOT of leaks in this "investigation".  Last time we saw leaks like this it come out the DOJ and the FBI were partisan participants in an "investigation" into, imagine that, THE SAME PERSON.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    3 weeks ago

It is like a movie we saw before.  

They got away with it before, so why not?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    3 weeks ago

They "got away with it" because they were running it.  Looking at the freak out of the Democrats and the left over the assignment of a Special Master shows things may not end well (again) for them.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

That is the sad part of all of this. The Democrat Party has fully embraced the Marxist version of justice in which the law is neither blind nor impartial but a blade to vengefully strike at your enemies. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    3 weeks ago

So, where's an indictment?  Why is Garland slow-walking on the political stage?  

You know, the amount of information leaking out of DOJ and FBI really does suggest that this material was safer at Mar-a-Lago.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @3    3 weeks ago
So, where's an indictment?  Why is Garland slow-walking on the political stage?  

The only thing I can think of is that they want him to run because they think he's the only one they can beat.


You know, the amount of information leaking out of DOJ and FBI really does suggest that this material was safer at Mar-a-Lago.

LMAO!

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    3 weeks ago
The only thing I can think of is that they want him to run because they think he's the only one they can beat.

IMO it goes much deeper than that.  Trump isn't cowed by liberal allegations and accusations.  And Trump represents a real alternative to both 'mainstream' Republicans and Democrats.

Trump poses a real threat to the political playbook both parties have used for decades.  Trump has demonstrated that it's not so easy to win elections by just pushing the right buttons, staying on script, and following the tried-and-true playbook.  It doesn't seem like Trump relies on focus groups for messaging.  

Trump is a threat to the status quo.  That's the biggest worry for 'mainstream' politicians of both parties.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
  It doesn't seem like Trump relies on focus groups for messaging.  

You are absolutely right. As I recall his 2016 campaign was nothing more than a series of rallies.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    3 weeks ago

People tend to forget all the never Trumpers hailing from the “Republican” side.    

Like little miss never had a real job Cheney and the rest of her ilk.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.3    3 weeks ago

They did a lot of virtue signaling to their colleagues on the left, didn't they?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    3 weeks ago

Yep

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Nerm_L @3    3 weeks ago
"You know, the amount of information leaking out of DOJ and FBI really does suggest that this material was safer at Mar-a-Lago."
Yep,  makes Biden's leaky Depends type government appear to be even more corrupt and stupid.
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Nerm_L
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3.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    3 weeks ago
Yep,  makes Biden's leaky Depends type government appear to be even more corrupt and stupid.

Biden has even botched up democracy.

512

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    3 weeks ago

That anyone could believe that nonsense. 

Safer at Mar-a-Lardo

Delusional

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.3  Ronin2  replied to  Nerm_L @3    3 weeks ago

They really should be leaking the documents themselves.

Otherwise they run the risk of being accused of planting evidence. 

That is assuming the unidentified leak is a real person; and not just another writer getting creative with "facts" and "reality".

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.4  pat wilson  replied to  Nerm_L @3    3 weeks ago
Why is Garland slow-walking on the political stage?  

He's doing his job in the manner expected.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Nerm_L @3    3 weeks ago
You know, the amount of information leaking out of DOJ and FBI really does suggest that this material was safer at Mar-a-Lago.

That's one of the dumbest statements I've seen today. I know its just a disgusting desperate partisan defense of Trumps likely criminal actions, but its still rather sad to see this kind of blatant unpatriotic stupidity.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.6  Sparty On  replied to  Nerm_L @3    3 weeks ago
Why is Garland slow-walking on the political stage?  

still a couple months to the mid terms.    Gotta work it for maximum effect don’t ya know ....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  seeder  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

They can't comment on an ongoing investigation, but they sure can leak about it.

 
 
 
Sunshine
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5  Sunshine    3 weeks ago

I am very tired of the FBI leaking.  They need to worry more about their own internal affairs than Trumps.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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6  pat wilson    3 weeks ago

This is the hill you want to die on ?? Leaks ??

 
 

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