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Capitol Police says it reviewed just one Jan. 6 clip Tucker Carlson showed | The Hill

  

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Via:  jbb  •  last year  •  26 comments

By:   Emily Brooks, Dominick Mastrangelo, and Rebecca Beitsch (The Hill)

Capitol Police says it reviewed just one Jan. 6 clip Tucker Carlson showed | The Hill
U.S. Capitol Police say they saw just one of the many clips from the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol that Fox News host Tucker Carlson aired on Monday night, after he was granted access by Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.). "We repeatedly requested that any clips be shown to us first for a…

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by Emily Brooks, Dominick Mastrangelo and Rebecca Beitsch - 03/07/23 1:24 PM ET
by Emily Brooks, Dominick Mastrangelo and Rebecca Beitsch - 03/07/23 1:24 PM ET

U.S. Capitol Police say they saw just one of the many clips from the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol that Fox News host Tucker Carlson aired on Monday night, after he was granted access by Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.).

"We repeatedly requested that any clips be shown to us first for a security review," Capitol Police told The Hill on Monday. "So far we have only been given the ability to preview a single clip out of the multiple clips that aired."

The limited consultation comes after McCarthy said Capitol Police would be consulted before the video aired to address security concerns.

"We work with the Capitol Police as well, so we'll make sure security is taken care of," McCarthy told reporters last week.

Carlson said on his show that his team checked with Capitol Police before airing the footage, and that their reservations were "minor" and "reasonable."

His show blurred the details of an interior door in the Capitol due to those concerns.

The same camera angle of the door was previously released during the impeachment trial of former President Trump in 2021, without any blurring of the door, picturing senators and staff evacuating.

The disagreement over whether Capitol Police were meaningfully consulted comes as Carlson says he will release more of the roughly 44,000 hours of unseen footage he now has access to.

A senior GOP aide with knowledge of the process of releasing the footage said that there was coordination with Capitol Police.

The Capitol Police gave a list of what would be considered security sensitive, the aide said.

When Carlson's team picked out the clips to air, only one of those - the clip with the door - was considered to be security sensitive based on that list, and then given to the Capitol Police to review.

The Capitol Police then cleared that clip, with the details of the door being blurred.

"We worked with the Capitol Police to identify any security-sensitive footage and made sure it wasn't released," McCarthy spokesman Mark Bednar said in a statement.

Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.), chairman of the House Administration Subcommittee on Oversight, also said last week that the footage given to Carlson to air would be cleared for security purposes.

"It's basically controlled access to be able to view tapes. Can't record, can't take anything with you. Then they will request any particular clips that — that they may need, and then we'll make sure that there's nothing sensitive, nothing classified — you know, escape routes," Loudermilk said.

A representative for Fox News did not immediately return a request for comment.

"This action clearly does not coincide with promises of safety and security and endangers everyone who visits and works in the Capitol complex," Rep. Joe Morelle (D-N.Y.), top Democrat on the House Committee on Administration, which oversees Capitol Police, said in a statement to The Hill.

During his primetime show on Monday, Carlson aired the first portion of never-before-seen angles of footage from the attack by Trump supporters, downplaying the violence that broke out during the incident describing the scene at one point as "mostly peaceful chaos."

"'Deadly insurrection.' Everything about that phrase is a lie," Carlson said during his show Monday night. "Very little about Jan. 6 was organized or violent. Surveillance video from inside the Capitol shows mostly peaceful chaos."

The agreement to consult Capitol Police over the footage comes after Democrats and several who worked on the Jan. 6 panel raised the alarm over the security fallout that could result from sharing the footage.

"When the Select Committee obtained access to U.S. Capitol Police video footage, it was treated with great sensitivity given concerns about the security of lawmakers, staff, and the Capitol complex," Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), who served as head of the Jan. 6 panel, said at the time.

"Access was limited to members and a small handful of investigators and senior staff, and the public use of any footage was coordinated in advance with Capitol Police. It's hard to overstate the potential security risks if this material were to be used irresponsibly."


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JBB
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    last year

Tucker and Fox beg for the Alex Jones treatment!

Sueing them out of existence is our only recourse.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year
When Carlson's team picked out the clips to air, only one of those - the clip with the door - was considered to be security sensitive based on that list, and then given to the Capitol Police to review.

The Capitol Police then cleared that clip, with the details of the door being blurred.

"We worked with the Capitol Police to identify any security-sensitive footage and made sure it wasn't released," McCarthy spokesman Mark Bednar said in a statement.

The Capitol police haven't seen these videos?  Really brings to question the integrity and goal of the "investigation" 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    last year
The Capitol police haven't seen these videos?

You think they hold group screenings every Friday night at the local precinct?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1    last year

They should have viewed them as part of the investigation.  But we all saw how that panned out.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.1    last year
They should have viewed them as part of the investigation.

Remind me again, how many hours of video clips were there?  How many days does that work out to?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.2    last year

Exactly.  Make me wonder how trials are occurring with out all the evidence being viewed.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.3    last year
Exactly.

Since you seem unable or unwilling to answer the question, I will for you.

  • 44,000 hours of video recordings were released to Carlson.
  • That is over 1,833 days worth of video recordings.
  • Which is over 5 years of recordings.
  • However, since police only work the standard 8 hour shifts, that means over 15 years of recordings.
  • Add 2 more years to it to compensate for weekends, holidays, and vacations.
  • You're looking at over 17 years for the person to view and approve the release of all the recordings provided to Carlson.
    • And that is only if watching those recordings is his only job to do.

Now do you understand how ridiculous your premise is of expecting them to have watched all the recordings by now?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.4    last year
  • 44,000 hours of video recordings were released to Carlson.
  • That is over 1,833 days worth of video recordings.
  • Which is over 5 years of recordings.
  • However, since police only work the standard 8 hour shifts, that means over 15 years of recordings.
  • Add 2 more years to it to compensate for weekends, holidays, and vacations.
  • You're looking at over 17 years for the person to view and approve the release of all the recordings provided to Carlson.
    • And that is only if watching those recordings is his only job to do.

Attaboy!!!!! you can do math.  One hell of an accomplilshment.

Now do you understand how ridiculous your premise is of expecting them to have watched all the recordings by now?

And yet there are still trials happening.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.3    last year
Make me wonder how trials are occurring with out all the evidence being viewed.

This, exactly.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.7  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.5    last year
Attaboy!!!!! you can do math.  One hell of an accomplilshment.

If you try real hard, maybe one day you also will be able to do math.

And yet there are still trials happening.

Correct, which is why the recording should not have been released.

Also, I would assume that you would understand that you can convict someone with 1 recording that shows them clearly committing a crime.  You do not have to provide every second of every recording to convict.

You do understand that.....right?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.7    last year
Correct, which is why the recording should not have been released.

If they weren't released, it would have never come about that the rights violations facing trial and those already convicted.  But I get it, it's all about the narrative

Also, I would assume that you would understand that you can convict someone with 1 recording that shows them clearly committing a crime.  You do not have to provide every second of every recording to convict.

If the evidence is relevant to the guilt, innocence or punishment of the defendant, then the prosecution is required by law to turn it over to the defense during the discovery process.  This didn't happen.  Now there are a number of convictions that could overturned and civil suits coming all because the Democrats wanted to put forth a narrative of false information.

You do understand that.....right?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.9  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.8    last year
If they weren't released, it would have never come about that the rights violations facing trial and those already convicted.

Does it hurt to spin that hard and at that much of an angle?

If the evidence is relevant to the guilt, innocence or punishment of the defendant, then the prosecution is required by law to turn it over to the defense during the discovery process.

Has there been any recording showing them not being guilty of breaking the law?  Not trespassing?  Not assaulting the cops?  Or anything related to the charged crimes?

Prosecutors HAVE shown videos of them committing the crimes they were charged with.  What video would show the previous recording as fake?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.9    last year

So you DON'T understand that.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.11  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.10    last year

So you DON'T understand that.

I understand very few right wingers. 

Why someone would grovel and squirm just to be a corrupt politician's apologist is beyond me. 

Why someone would forego all common sense and morality to make excuses for people that would not give a shit about you, is impossible to comprehend.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.11    last year

Right wing / left wing is irrelevant in this.  You just don't even have a basic understanding of the law and how it applies.  So because your lack of knowledge / understanding you lash out at me.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.11    last year

It's the constant defense of the indefensible which is indefensible to me.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3  Tacos!    last year

Maybe the police wanted more editorial control over things like video of them opening doors for protestors and escorting them through the halls of the Capitol building.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @3    last year

Where did that happen?

If so, I'm sure it was those who were inside regarding the planning of 1/6.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @3.1    last year
Where did that happen?

Here (from NPR):

Capitol Police Suspends 6 Officers, Investigates Dozens More After Capitol Riots

Videos from the day of the attack appear to show some officers escorting rioters inside the building. In one video,  USCP officers can be seen opening barricades  allowing the mob to enter the Capitol complex without resistance.
 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.1    last year

So, like I said they were 'inside' and involved with the planning 1/6.

Thanks for confirming.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.2    last year

I see two main possibilities.

First, this is potentially exculpatory evidence withheld from defense counsel. That’s a Brady violation and could lead to overturning the convictions of many people. If prosecutors decide to reexamine the cases, many charges could be reduced or dropped. At trial, defendants might be acquitted of charges like trespass if cops were letting them in the building. 

Second, the convictions stand, but cops should perhaps be prosecuted for aiding and abetting criminal behavior.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.3    last year

I agree with your second possibility wholeheartedly and completely dismiss the first. Nothing was withheld from the defense counsel.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.4    last year
Nothing was withheld from the defense counsel.

I don’t think there’s any way you can possibly know that. It’s going to take time to find out.

 
 
 
Transyferous Rex
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4  Transyferous Rex    last year
"...It's hard to overstate the potential security risks if this material were to be used irresponsibly."

1) Is it the security threat they are worried about, or the embarrassment associated with giving a guided tour to a person claimed to be a violent insurrectionist? 

2) You telling me the capital police did not go through the video, prior to the release to Carlson? "Sorry lads, we have to turn over everything, Carlson made a FOIA request. No redacting..." Come on. They go through everything. And they did here, and identified security sensitive material. The door, rubbed out in Carlson's release, was apparently shown in a clip during Trump's impeachment. Who showed that clip? Why didn't the capital police, and everyone else bitching now, bitch then? If they did, they didn't bitch loudly enough, because I don't recall anyone bitching at that time.

The same camera angle of the door was previously released during the impeachment trial of former President Trump in 2021, without any blurring of the door, picturing senators and staff evacuating.

3) Don't tell me the capital police did not have time to review the footage. They had two years to go through it and flag or scrub security sensitive information. But there is 44000 hours of footage you say? Well, put some man power on it. 20 people could have watched 3 hours a day and gotten through it with time for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and regular smoke breaks.

What's the beef again? Capital police are claiming only one clip has been submitted. Reference is made to a door that is blurred out by Carlson, but apparently not blurred out in a release during the Trump impeachment. But, we are supposed to be angry, upset, concerned that Carlson might release sensitive information, because Carlson has only submitted one clip, for review, that contained or potentially contained sensitive material, as identified by a list provided by capital police? Have the other clips aired, and not submitted, contained security sensitive information?  

I'm not trying to belittle the security issue. But, I am having a hard time getting on board with the capital police beef, when the one example of security sensitive material used was scrubbed by Carlson, but previously aired, with apparently little to no pause or concern for security. The thing I gather from this story is that the footage, according to the article, has already been used irresponsibly. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1  Tessylo  replied to  Transyferous Rex @4    last year

Defending the indefensible.

 
 
 
TOM PA
Freshman Silent
5  TOM PA    last year

The only thing I would want Mr. Tucker to do is ask any congress person or senator he has on his show is "Why were you running to a secure location?"  

 
 

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