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DOJ Reportedly Gave ‘Limited Immunity’ to Human Smuggler Who Owned Van Driven by Kilmar Abrego Garcia for Details on 2022 Trip

  

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DOJ Reportedly Gave ‘Limited Immunity’ to Human Smuggler Who Owned Van Driven by Kilmar Abrego Garcia for Details on 2022 Trip

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News emerged on Tuesday that the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), who   The Tennessee Star  reported last week   is now investigating Kilmar Abrego Garcia, offered “limited immunity” to the owner of the vehicle driven by the El Salvadoran national on his   November 2022 trip   from Texas to Maryland that was briefly interrupted by a Tennessee Highway Patrol (THP) traffic stop in Tennessee.

After confirming  The Star’s   previous reporting, the  ABC News  report  revealed  that Jose Ramon Hernandez Reyes, who the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS)  confirmed was the owner  of the 2001 Chevrolet Silverado driven by Abrego Garcia in 2022, recently spoke to a DOJ lawyer regarding the stop after being offered  immunity.

Hernandez Reyes was previously arrested in 2019 and convicted of human trafficking in 2020. At that point, he was sentenced to 18 months behind bars, then deported and ordered not to return for three years.

According to the Tuesday report, Hernandez Reyes violated the terms of his sentence and illegally reentered the United States sometime later, allowing DOJ attorneys to interview Hernandez Reyes at the Federal Correctional Institution (FCI) in Talladega, Alabama.

The outlet, citing sources familiar with the interview, reported that Hernandez Reyes “recently spoke” with attorneys who asked questions about his connections to Abrego Garcia.

Hernandez Reyes reportedly told the DOJ officials that he met Abrego Garcia in 2015, just three years after the latter man reportedly admitted to illegally entering the United States.

After they met in 2015, the prisoner reportedly admitted to DOJ officials that he paid Abrego Garcia to transport illegal immigrants from Texas to various destinations throughout the United States.

The Star  was first to report that Abrego Garcia was stopped by THP in 2022, when he was transporting nine people   without a valid license , and the agency later confirmed it was   instructed to release   Abrego Garcia by the “Biden-era FBI.” DHS has additionally   confirmed   that troopers suspected Abrego Garcia of human trafficking during the stop.

Abrego Garcia is an El Salvador citizen who was deported by the Trump administration to his homeland in March. He claimed that the deportation violated the final deportation order issued in his immigration case in 2019, which contained a “withholding of removal” that specifically forbade his deportation to one of two nations, either Guatemala or El Salvador.

Body-worn camera footage released by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security to   The Star  last week revealed Abrego Garcia was   carrying $1,400 in cash   at the time of the arrest. Hernandez Reyes was convicted of charging passengers $350 for transportation from Texas to other parts of the country.


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Sean Treacy
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1  seeder  Sean Treacy    last year

A textbook example of Democrats and their house media rushing to create a martyr. He's just a "Maryland man", an exemplary American.  Democrats, who ignore the families of their actual American constituents who had loved ones  murdered by illegal aliens, flocked to El Salvador for photo-ops and cocktails with a human smuggler.  Countless pundits spent weeks manipulating the public and claiming there's no evidence of him being anything other than a normal, hard working guy.

Whoops.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    last year
A textbook example of Democrats and their house media rushing to create a martyr.

Does any of this change the fact that he was not given "Due Process" as required by the Constitution???

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    last year
Does any of this change the fact that he was not given "Due Process" as required by the Constitution???

Why were the Democrats so eager to mislead you about him? Does is bother you were fed so much misinformation.  

 
 
 
George
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1.1.3  George  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    last year
"Due Process" as required by the Constitution???

What do you mean by this? what due process? do you think everyone who is deported gets a court case? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    last year
he was not given "Due Process" as required by the Constitution???

This administration is merely following precedent set by previous administrations.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    last year

Did the 3 million illegals that Obama had deported got the "due process" you speak about?

Did all 3 million stand in front of a judge individually, like the left wants now?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  bugsy @1.1.5    last year
Did the 3 million illegals that Obama had deported got the "due process" you speak about?

But, but, but I thought Democrats wanted open borders? Oh yeah, that's right, at one time the people called Obama “deporter in chief” because he deported so many undocumented immigrants.

Interestingly Obama was using a "series of laws in 1996 established new grounds for deportation, penalties for the crimes of illegal entry and re-entry, mandates for detention of deportable noncitizens, and a framework for cooperative arrangements on immigration enforcement between the federal government and state and local law enforcement agencies." That's right, most of the added penalties for being in the US illegally were also signed into law by a Democratic President.

The laws Obama used for expedited removal were for those immediately detained upon attempted entry at the border. He was not sending out ICE raids to rendition any undocumented worker who overstayed a visa or is awaiting a court hearing for asylum as the Trump administration is doing. The two acts are as different as night and day, but that won't stop dishonest bigoted conservative dipshits from trying to find some false equivalency.

 
 
 
George
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1.1.7  George  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.6    last year

Deflection fail, if you can't answer the question that's fine. let me answer it for you, between 60 and 80 percent of the criminal pieces of shit Obama deported never saw a judge or the inside of a courtroom that is 2+ million illegal pieces of  crap for the math challenged. so other than TDS? why so much hypocrisy from the left, 

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.8  bugsy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.6    last year
The laws Obama used for expedited removal were for those immediately detained upon attempted entry at the border

And that is where Biden failed. He let millions in unvetted, where he could have used the same law to deport them upon crossing. 

Now Trump has to once again clean up a democrat's mess.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.9  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.1    last year
Why were the Democrats so eager to mislead you about him?

Why are republicans okay with blatently violating the Constitution?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.10  Ozzwald  replied to  George @1.1.3    last year
What do you mean by this? what due process? do you think everyone who is deported gets a court case? 

Everyone who is arrested has the opportunity for due process under the Constitution.  Isn't that true in your country as well?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.11  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.4    last year
This administration is merely following precedent set by previous administrations.

But of course you are refusing to provide any such examples.  So just trolling.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.12  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @1.1.8    last year
And that is where Biden failed. He let millions in unvetted

So has Trump "vetted" all the illegal entrants that have come in during his administration?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.13  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.9    last year

Why are republicans okay with blatently violating the Constitution?

THey aren't.  You've been bamboozled into believing things that aren't true. 

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.14  GregTx  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.12    last year

Mmmm..... numbers matter

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.15  Greg Jones  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    last year

The fact is, he had due process more than once.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.16  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.11    last year

Google is free to use.  Have at it.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.17  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.13    last year
THey aren't.  You've been bamboozled into believing things that aren't true.

So you are saying that "due process" is not in the Constitution?  It is amazing the spin you try to put on things.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.18  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.15    last year
The fact is, he had due process more than once.

So there is a limit to due process in your mind?  Once you've used it twice you don't get anymore?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.19  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.12    last year
illegal entrants

What happened to calling them "asylum seekers" or " undocumented"? Did you finally realize the term "ILLEGAL" was the proper term after all?

Also, why the sudden concern if they've been properly vetted?  None of you seemed to care between January 2021 and January 2025.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.20  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.12    last year

Never said he did but they are fasaaaarr fewer than what dementia Joe and his DEI hire VP let in.

If they use the law Obama  used to deport, then you should give him credit where credit is due.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.21  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.19    last year
What happened to calling them "asylum seekers" or " undocumented"? Did you finally realize the term "ILLEGAL" was the proper term after all?

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[✘] Some of us understand the difference between "illegal entrants" and the specific subset of "asylum seekers".

Also, why the sudden concern if they've been properly vetted?

Maybe you should read the comment string before jumping in feet first. [deleted][✘]

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.22  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.21    last year
Some of us understand the difference between "illegal entrants" and the specific subset of "asylum seekers".

No you don't.  

Maybe you should read the comment string before jumping in feet first.

Did read the comment. 

Notice you can't answer any of the questions.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    last year

Though  it looks like Trump will secure an agreement with Rwanda to take deportees whose home countries won't take them or if they've secured a withholding order for their home countries. 

So if Trump can convince Bukele  to give Garcia up, it looks like he will immediately be sent to Rwanda. Maybe after a pitstop in prison for human smuggling.  The DOJ won't even have to bother with getting the withholding order removed.  Everybody wins. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2  Hal A. Lujah    last year

Well clearly he deserves to slowly die in an El Salvador death camp while American tax payers pay for it.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2    last year

He's not in the supermax prison and his detention is not paid for by America.  If he's in jail, Bukele is paying for it. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    last year

Oh good, so we’re only paying for gay hairdresser gangsters to slowly die in an El Salvadoran death camp.

 
 
 
George
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2.1.2  George  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.1    last year

So, do you think it is cheaper to incarcerate them here or there?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  George @2.1.2    last year

How about just not imprisoning gay immigrant hairdressers for existing in the US, and not straining all credibility by calling every undocumented immigrant a terrorist gang member?

 
 
 
George
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2.1.4  George  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.3    last year

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Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.3    last year
just not imprisoning gay immigrant hairdressers for existing in the US

Where DO you get this shit?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.3    last year
not straining all credibility by calling every undocumented immigrant a terrorist gang member?

Hey, if a brown human has a tattoo, in many white rightwing conservative minds they must be a gang member just like any black man in a hoodie must be a criminal casing the neighborhood and every candy bar in their pocket must be a gun. Whatever the frightened scared shitless little rightwing conservative bigots need to believe to justify shooting first or just sending the scary brown man to prison without due process is what they will convince themselves of. They have convinced themselves of their own self-righteousness and act as if they were chosen by God which isn't much different than their religious counterpart Muslims beheading anyone they have deemed an infidel.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.7  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.6    last year
, if a brown human has a tattoo, in m

You seem to have some strange beliefs.  In this case, an informant and police organized gang squad identified him as a gang member,  an immigration judge withheld bail from Garcia because he was a gang member and his ruling was upheld on appeal, a convicted human smuggler confirmed Garcia trafficked humans him  and the father of wife's children told the courts he was a gang member.  But sure, believe it's just because he's brown with a tattoo. 

It's sad you've been misled by left wing media into believing he's just a "Maryland man"

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1.8  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.5    last year

You guys are terrified of this man.

original

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.8    last year

Well, he's clearly a 'gang banger' just back from gang banging a bunch of bigoted white religious conservative men's wives. Now the cuckold husbands are demanding justice...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1.10  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.9    last year

It’s conclusive.  When the camera pulled away his gang affiliation was obvious.  Pay no attention to the extra finger.

original

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.11  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.10    last year

Matrix Salon 13....

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3  TᵢG    last year

The facts of the case do not change even if Garcia is a murderer.   He was granted a withholding of removal that made it illegal to deport him to El Salvador.   That ruling, until changed, is legally binding.

The key issue is not Garcia, it is about Trump violating the law and refusing to facilitate the release and return of an individual per the affirmation by the SCotUS.   And Trump's refusal is clear as day:  he said that he would not bring Garcia back and others like Bondi restated this clearly, emphatically, and repeatedly.   The administration has categorically stated that it will not do anything in pursuit of securing a release and return of Garcia.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3    last year

Good. On then, to bigger and better things. The decision has been made, and life as we know it goes on in the Good 'Ol US of A

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3    last year
The key issue is not Garcia, it is about Trump violating the law and refusing to facilitate the release and return of an individual per the affirmation by the SCotUS. 

Nothing was violated.  SCOTUS direction was to FACILITATE release.  El Salvador said no several times.  The left can cry about it all they want. 

I do have to note how hilarious the left suddenly feel the need to abide by SCOTUS decisions.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2    last year
SCOTUS direction was to FACILITATE release.  El Salvador said no several times.

Trump categorically stated that he is not going to even try to get Garcia back.   That is a categorical denial of the order.

Yet again, Trump supporters defend every wrongful act by Trump.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.1    last year

Should we send troops to get him out? We've already exhausted virtue signaling, heartbleeding Congress critters (God only knows why)

 
 
 
George
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3.2.3  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.2    last year

It absolutely doesn't matter what trump does. the moronic left will find a reason to blame him, they are blaming him for India killing terrorists in Pakistan. TDS is all consuming.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @3.2.3    last year

The old "show me the man and I'll show you the crime" routine. Very strange and a little telling they would adopt such a philosophy upon knowing the source.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.1    last year
Trump supporters defend every wrongful act by Trump.

I think it's been clear for quite some time that Trump supporters don't give a fuck about the law, the courts or the constitution unless the law is giving them the right to arm themselves like a branch of the military or coming down on those they hate. And they hate pretty much anyone who doesn't look like them, pray like them, love like them or think like them so even having an above room temp IQ puts you on their hate list.

In this case it hits all the marks, so the law be damned. Even his name "Garcia" is a red flag for these mentally starved bitter bigots. If a court rules in favor of Garcia they automatically assume it must be some Democrat appointed judge who must be breaking the law somehow! Sure, they couldn't even metaphorically tie their shoes when it comes to understanding the law, but they sure like to pretend they do.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.6  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.2    last year
Should we send troops to get him out?

Ridiculous question in lieu of a real rebuttal.

Garcia is a pawn.   The problem is Trump breaking the law and defying the order to facilitate the release and return of an individual.

Garcia would be released by Trump making a phone call.   Bukele will not defy Trump for one person who in the grand scheme means absolutely nothing to him.   Garcia remains in El Salvador because Trump told Bukele to keep him.

Extreme (especially when pretended) naivety is not a good defense of Trump.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.1    last year
Trump categorically stated that he is not going to even try to get Garcia back. 

Several Democrats went to El Salvador to try to work his release.  Like it or not, that is the facilitation.  The El Salvador President said "NO" and they returned empty handed.

The USSCOTUS has ZERO jurisdiction over another country.  

Yet again, Trump supporters defend every wrongful act by Trump.

All the while you willfully ignore what really happened.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.6    last year
Garcia is a pawn.

Garcia was an illegal that was deported.  What's pathetically sad is that the left and Democrats are fighting more for an illegal than a US Citizen.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.9  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.7    last year

No, the Trump administration did NOT engage in an facilitation.   A senator is NOT part of the Trump administration.

All the while you willfully ignore what really happened.

Pure projection;  you accuse me of what you are clearly doing.

Trump can get Garcia back with a phone call.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.10  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.8    last year

The principle here is the PotUS violating the law and refusing to comply with a Judicial branch order.   Garcia had a withholding from removal and thus could not be legally deported to El Salvador.

The principle here is the rule of law.   You are actually trying to defend Trump's violation of the law.   That is what is pathetic ... and disgusting.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.9    last year
Trump can get Garcia back with a phone call.

El Salvador's President told him face to face that he was not releasing Garcia.  Either you are willfully ignoring it or you just plain don't know.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.10    last year
The principle here is the rule of law.  You are actually trying to defend Trump's violation of the law.

The one violating the laws was Garcia.  He was in the country ILLEGALLY.  He was BEATING HIS WIFE.  He was reportedly involved in HUMAN TRAFFICKING.  He was deported IAW US law.

What's pathetic and disgusting is you are fighting for this POS.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.13  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.12    last year

You keep intentionally missing the point.   Probably because you cannot deal with my argument and must deflect to talking about Garcia's personal issues.

My point is about Trump breaking the law.   Trump illegally deported him to El Salvador.   The fact that he did this illegally is a problem.   He even admitted it was a mistake to do so.   The SCotUS affirmed the order that Trump must facilitate his release and return and Trump categorically refuses to do so.   He is this violating the Judicial branch.

That is the point and that is the problem — the rule of law and a rogue PotUS that supporters like you blindly (cultishly IMO) defend and support no matter what he does.

It is pathetic and disgusting.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.13    last year
You keep intentionally missing the point. 

You're right.  I'm intentionally ignoring the stupidity of your argument.  The facts of the situation:

  1. He was in the country ILLEGALLY. 
  2. He was BEATING HIS WIFE. 
  3. He was reportedly involved in HUMAN TRAFFICKING. 
  4. He was deported IAW US law.
My point is about Trump breaking the law. 

EXACTLY what law was broken.  Cite the chapter and part.  Not your feelings.

The SCotUS affirmed the order that Trump must facilitate his release and return and Trump categorically refuses to do so.

And he and several Democrats did that.  The fact the Democrats returned back to the US and Garcia stayed in his home country and the video in #3.2.11 is the result of that facilitation.  You keep ignoring THAT.  And for what?  To fight to have an illegal, human trafficking wife beater brought back to the country?  Who in their right mind does that?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.15  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.14    last year
EXACTLY what law was broken. 

It is you, not me, who is operating on emotion rather than facts.   Do some basic research before attempting a rebuttal:  

8 U.S. Code § 1231(b)(3):

(3) Restriction on removal to a country where alien's life or freedom would be threatened

(A) In general

Notwithstanding paragraphs (1) and (2), the Attorney General may not remove an alien to a country if the Attorney General decides that the alien's life or freedom would be threatened in that country † because of the alien's race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.

(B) Exception

Subparagraph (A) does not apply to an alien deportable under  section 1227(a)(4)(D) of this title  or if the Attorney General decides that-

(i) the alien ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of an individual because of the individual's race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion;

(ii) the alien, having been convicted by a final judgment of a particularly serious crime is a danger to the community of the United States;

(iii) there are serious reasons to believe that the alien committed a serious nonpolitical crime outside the United States before the alien arrived in the United States; or

(iv) there are reasonable grounds to believe that the alien is a danger to the security of the United States.

† Garcia was granted withholding of removal because the immigration judge determined that his life or freedom would be threatened if he was deported to El Salvador.   This is a legally binding order.

Beyond this, Trump is in defiance of the Judicial branch by categorically stating that he will not facilitate the release and return of Garcia.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.16  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.15    last year

So why wasn't he removed within 90 days of the initial ruling in accordance with 8 U.S. Code § 1231(a)(1) (A)?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.17  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.16    last year

Because there was no order for his removal.   And because, as otherwise noted in the section, he had a withholding of removal.

In spite of your attempts to find something ... anything ... that defends Trump, the point remains that Trump illegally deported Garcia and is defying the clear order from the Judicial branch to facilitate Garcia's release and return.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.3  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @3    last year
it is about Trump violating the law and refusing to facilitate the release and return of an individual per the affirmation by the SCotUS.

All the Supreme court did was order the Court to clarify its order and to hold further hearings on what exactly the Court could demand the DOJ do.  The DOJ isn't violating the Supreme Court's order  and you stop falsely claiming they are. It's simply not true.  

The administration has categorically stated that it will not do anything in pursuit of securing a release and return of Garcia.

Except when Trump says the exact opposite and promises to follows any Supreme Court ruling. Crazy how you only cherrypick some sound bytes. In the real world, the scope of the DOJ's duty  is still being litigated at the trial court.  You are simply wishcasting a situation that doesn't exist to fulfil your partisan requirement. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.1  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3    last year

The order to facilitate the release and return of Garcia was affirmed by the SCotUS.   Trump and his administration (e.g. Bondi) have categorically stated that they will NOT return Garcia and have taken no action to do so.

That is defiance.   When you publicly state that you will NOT follow an order and demonstrably take no steps to follow the order, that, Sean is defiance.

Your continued attempts to defend Trump are laughable.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.3.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.1    last year

This is what the Supreme Court ordered:

The District Court should clarify its directive, with due regard for the deference owed to the Executive
Branch in the conduct of foreign affairs. 

This is what is being litigated now. There is no "final order"  for the DOJ to defy, and certainly no such order has been ruled on the Supreme Court. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.3  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3.2    last year

I have repeatedly told you that the SCotUS affirmed the order for Trump to facilitate the release and return of Garcia.   Trump has categorically stated that he will not do so.

He is thus defying the Judicial branch.

 
 
 
Thomas
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3.3.4  Thomas  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.3    last year

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Greg Jones
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3.4  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @3    last year

There is nothing Trump can do to "facilitate" his return. 

Why would any sane person want this scumbag back?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.4.1  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @3.4    last year

Trump can get Garcia back with a phone call.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.4.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.1    last year

So not only do you claim violates imaginary Supreme Court orders, you also claim he has powers to order foreign heads of state to act with a phone call. 

amazing.

 
 

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