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Pete Hegseth orders the Navy to rename the USNS Harvey Milk

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  hallux  •  last year  •  73 comments

By:   Steve Benen - MSNBC

Pete Hegseth orders the Navy to rename the USNS Harvey Milk
Navy tradition and basic decency make clear the beleaguered defense secretary shouldn’t rename the ship. Hegseth is doing it anyway.

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


Soon after becoming the nation’s latest defense secretary, Pete Hegseth went right to work tackling one of his top priorities: He started renaming things.

Two weeks into his tenure, for example, the scandal-plagued former television personality signed an order renaming Fort Liberty in North Carolina to Fort Bragg. The controversial Pentagon chief also changed Georgia’s Fort Moore to Fort Benning.   Hegseth declared   at the time, “As the president has said, and I’ve said as well, we’re not done there.”

Evidently, he wasn’t kidding.   Military.com reported :



Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered the Navy to take the rare step of renaming a ship, one that bears the name of a gay rights icon, documents and sources show. Military.com reviewed a memorandum from the Office of the Secretary of the Navy — the official who holds the power to name Navy ships — that showed the sea service had come up with rollout plans for the renaming of the oiler ship USNS Harvey Milk.


NBC News confirmed the reporting, adding that the change is likely to be implemented quickly.

When then-Navy Secretary Ray Mabus announced nearly a decade ago that the service would name a fleet oiler after Milk, it wasn’t especially controversial. Milk came from a Navy family, served in the Navy stateside during the Korean War on a submarine rescue ship, and was honorably discharged after four years. He went on to become a celebrated civil rights pioneer in San Francisco and popular local elected official.

So why in the world would Hegseth want to rename the ship? The defense secretary hasn’t publicly commented, but the fact that Milk was gay apparently mattered a great deal.

Indeed, the Military.com report, which NBC News confirmed, noted that a defense official “said that the timing of the announcement — occurring during Pride month — was intentional.”

The same report added, “While there are some rare examples of Navy ships being renamed following construction and christening, those instances are outliers and, broadly, Navy traditions consider renaming a ship to be taboo.”

CBS News , citing Navy documents it obtained, and   The New York Times , citing a senior official familiar with a memo from the Navy secretary, reported that several other vessels named for prominent figures have been identified for possible renaming, including ships named for late Supreme Court Justices Thurgood Marshall and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, as well as famed abolitonist Harriet Tubman.


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Hallux
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1  seeder  Hallux    last year

Let no USNS support ship go unrenamed - in fact rename the entire class, someone named John Lewis is also unworthy!

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @1    last year

he's leaning towards biblical names, since there's a shortage of confederate naval heroes to choose from ...

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1.1  seeder  Hallux  replied to  devangelical @1.1    last year

Jonah is available and it's a whale of a yarn full of a fury of sounds and blubbering nothings.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @1.1.1    last year

I wonder what his tattoos will bring, when they're auctioned off to xtian nationalists that want to own a piece of history ...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1    last year

“As Daniel Flynn explains in Cult City: Jim Jones, Harvey Milk and 10 Days That Shook San Francisco, ‘Milk’s taste in men veered toward boys.’ Milk was nearly 17 years older than teenager Joe Campbell and Jack Galen was only 16 to Milk’s 33. Former Marine Oliver “Bill” Sipple slept with men and “knew that Harvey Milk slept with boys.” In a letter to Sipple, Milk said he had many things to do that day, such as “cook dinner, fuck Jack, take a bath, fuck Jack, listen to some music, fuck Jack, wash the dishes, fuck Jack,” and so on.

Jack was a teenage runaway. He ended up heavily on drugs.

That’s the real ugliness. Not someone actually mentioning these facts.

Now the media may argue that having a taste for underage boys doesn’t make Milk a “pedophile” in the technical sense of the word, that luring and addicting an underage teen isn’t the behavior of a pedophile.

They’re welcome to try and make that argument as long as they’re honest about it.

Milk was an enabler of Jim Jones, whose church was notorious for its abuses, and he was a classic sexual predator.

The media can argue that he was a sexual predator who enabled the abuse of children, but was not technically a pedophile.

Then maybe the media can explain why this lovely human being should have books about him pushed on kids."

Fact Check: Harvey Milk was a Pedophile | Frontpage Mag

End of story!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2  Trout Giggles    last year
 So why in the world would Hegseth want to rename the ship? The defense secretary hasn’t publicly commented, but the fact that Milk was gay apparently mattered a great deal. Indeed, the Military.com report, which NBC News confirmed, noted that a defense official “said that the timing of the announcement — occurring during Pride month — was intentional.”

Of course it's intentional! Lil Petey is cleaning up the military starting with the Navy first. We had jokes in the Air Force about the seamen and sailors. Petey is AF but that doesn't mean he's a manly man

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    last year

Democrats are now fighting to name a ship after a child molester who was also a Jim jones cheerleader who lobbied President Carter to ensure kids remained at Jonestown rather than being returned to their parents. 

Good stuff and explains why Democrats are struggling so badly among those who aren't suffering from mental health issues. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    last year

who are you talking about and where is your verifiable source?

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1    last year

they're usually sitting on it ...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1    last year

Peter Sprigg of the Family Research Council wrote, “Milk is famous only for winning one election, being murdered — and having sex with men. ” Nevertheless, Milk has been celebrated with an opera, a 2014 postage stamp, a state holiday, a children’s picture book, and was played by Sean Penn in a movie of his life in 2008. He posthumously received the Presidential Medal of Freedom for some reason from Barack Obama in 2009.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.2    last year
received the Presidential Medal of Freedom for some reason

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devangelical
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3.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.3    last year

trumpski sells those medals to his friends with deep pockets now ...

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @3.1.4    last year

Your source Trust Me Bro

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.2    last year

Your comment does not back up Sean's statement about a child molester whom he did not name

This is the fucking shit I am talking about. Lies get posted and when asked for sources it's never presented. None of you have any credibility with me anymore. Yeah....I know you don't give a shit

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.6    last year

Read the fucking article FFS. This is the only ship that  I know of waiting to be commissioned. Harvey Milk

Freedom and acceptance, that is, for everyone except for 16-year-old runaway Jack McKinley. McKinley was looking for a father figure in the 33-year-old Milk, but what he found instead was a pederastic rapist. Milk eventually dropped him like a hot rock when McKinley outgrew Milk’s taste for young males. Milk’s biographer said, “Harvey always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems.” He told one gay lover, “As homosexuals, we can’t depend on the heterosexual model.…We should be developing our own lifestyle. There’s no reason why you can’t love more than one person at a time.”

Almost seems you don't like eggs.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.8  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.2    last year

The American Family Association? Surely you jest.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.2    last year
Peter Sprigg of the Family Research Council wrote, “Milk is famous only for winning one election, being murdered — and having sex with men.

After graduation, Milk joined the  United States Navy  during the  Korean War . He served aboard the  submarine rescue ship   USS  Kittiwake  (ASR-13)  as a  diving officer . Milk later transferred to  Naval Station, San Diego  to serve as a diving instructor.  In 1955, he resigned from the Navy at the rank of  lieutenant, junior grade , forced to accept an "other than honorable" discharge and leave the service rather than be court-martialed because of his homosexuality. Harvey Milk - Wikipedia

He fought for gay rights, he fought for legalizing marijuana and was gunned down by former Board of supervisors member Dan White, a  Democrat , who was often labelled as a  conservative within the party , due in large part to his experience in the military and law enforcement, and due to endorsements White received from police and firefighter  unions . His district was described by  The New York Times  as "a largely white, middle-class section that is hostile to the growing  homosexual community of San Francisco ." Dan White - Wikipedia

Yeah, I don't really give a fuck what some dipshit from the Family Research Council claims, they're useless fucking religious bigots.

now fighting to name a ship after a child molester

Ah, more lies by the right, but hey, who even bothers counting anymore. If someone on the rights mouth is moving, there really is no doubt another lie is being birthed.

There is FAR more evidence against Donald Trump being a pedophile than Harvey Milk. Trump has been accused and had to have attorneys defend him against the charge of raping a 13-year-old girl along with his good friend Jeffery Epstein. What evidence do you have against Milk who had never even been accused of any such crime. Milk was gay, but apparently for some dishonest fuck wads that means they can just slander and lie about them because they believe the ends justify the means as they intentionally force their fucking worthless disgusting vile religious beliefs on others. 

So, either prove Milk was a pedophile or you can just admit what anyone with more than half a brain knows, that your comment was nothing but rightwing conservative bullshit.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.7    last year

I'm not swayed by anything the AFA puts out. They are a far right wing mouth piece and will post any lies that fits their agenda. Get a better source

When this is the lead in to the story you know nothing but trash follows:

Harvey Milk, an infamous practitioner of the “love that must not be named,” will have a ship named in his (dis)honor by the U.S. Navy. Milk became the first openly homosexual elected official in a major American city when he was elected to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors in 1977. His only noteworthy accomplishment as a city supervisor was his gushing support for Jim Jones of Guyana and Jonestown Kool-Aid fame.

Jim Jones actually did good things in San Francisco before he moved he and his followers to Guyana. That's when things went wrong. Find a quote by Milk that gushes about Jones after the tragedy then I might actually believe this whole filthy article

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.11    last year
Harvey Milk ,  a San Francisco supervisor and political figure, had a connection to the  People's Temple  and Jim Jones.  He was supported by the Temple and maintained a positive view of Jones, even after renegades began speaking out against him.  
Here's a more detailed look at the connection:  
  • Support from the Temple:
    Milk was supported by the Peoples Temple and enjoyed their support, particularly in his political campaigns.
  • Defending Jones:
    In a letter to President Jimmy Carter, Milk defended Jones "as a man of the highest character," stating that Temple defectors were spreading "apparent bold-faced lies".
  • Continuing Relationship:
    Temple members sent Milk letters of sympathy following his lover's death, expressing a desire for him to visit Jonestown.
  • Milk's Final Service:
    Milk spoke at a service at the Peoples Temple in October 1978, which was his last visit before the Jonestown tragedy.
    Complete Excerpt from AI................
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.12    last year

still not gushing after the tragedy....

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    last year
fighting to name a ship after a child molester

no navy ship has ever been named after a priest.

 
 
 
George
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3.2.1  George  replied to  devangelical @3.2    last year

Thank you for making an absolute ignorant post that has no bases in fact. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @3.2.1    last year
no navy ship has ever been named after a priest

And also bullshit...........

The bravery of four Catholic chaplains in the line of duty has been recognized by U.S. Navy vessels named in their honor. The stories of the chaplain heroes and their namesake ships follow.

And in case you care to dwell on semantics, yes, chaplains are priests.

What is a priest in the Navy called?
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The Navy Chaplain Corps boasts more than 800   Navy Chaplains   from more than 100 different faith groups, including Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist and many others. Chaplains hold important leadership roles as well, each serving as a Navy Officer.
And funny, you didn't cite a source for the aforementioned bullshit. That may not be Kosher with some here.
 
 
 
George
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3.2.3  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.2    last year

 The USS Schmitt Was names after Father Aloysius H. Schmitt. There are 3 or 4 Naval vessels named after Catholic priests.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.2.4  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.2    last year

Yes, and all 4 had front of the line escort destroyers named after them ... The USNS Harvey Milk is a 'lowly' supply ship armed with only defense weapons. Hegseth is trying to out-woke the woke.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.2.5  seeder  Hallux  replied to  George @3.2.1    last year

Someone has to keep pace with you.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hallux @3.2.4    last year

Still shoots the hell out of no Navy ships were named after priests. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.7  devangelical  replied to  George @3.2.1    last year
no bases in fact

... naval bases?

yeah, I should have been more specific. I meant child molesting priests ...

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.2.8  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.6    last year

It does, however, this story is about Hegseth's ruthless pettiness that's all the rage in the now Gilded People's House.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.9  devangelical  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.2    last year
you didn't cite a source for the aforementioned bullshit

it was the same source that most maga finds acceptable ...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hallux @3.2.8    last year

Orders are orders, no matter where they come from.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  devangelical @3.2.9    last year

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George
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3.2.12  George  replied to  devangelical @3.2.7    last year
child molesting priests ...

If if being a child molesting is a disqualifier, we will have to make sure nothing is ever named after Biden. Maybe they can name a shower after him in the vatican.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
3.2.13  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.10    last year
Orders are orders, no matter where they come from.

You know that is not always the case, there are unlawful orders.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.14  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hallux @3.2.13    last year

And this isn't one of them. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.15  devangelical  replied to  George @3.2.12    last year

but, but, but, what about a source for that?

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.2.16  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.14    last year

It is one of the dumbest that only purgists will celebrate.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.17  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @3.2.13    last year

... and wiggle room on the oath to defend the constitution, depending upon who's in the white house ...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2.18  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  George @3.2.12    last year
If if being a child molesting is a disqualifier, we will have to make sure nothing is ever named after Biden.

Or Trump. Sure, Ashley Biden describes showering with her dad that by today's standards would be "probably not appropriate." 

How about Trump?

The new complaint, filed in the federal court in Manhattan, restates plaintiff Jane Doe's claims of the earlier lawsuit. Namely, that she was lured (at age 13) by a recruiter to summer parties hosted by co-defendant Jeffrey Epstein at an Upper East Side mansion on East 71st St., tied to a bed and forcibly raped by Trump, who slapped her with an open hand and told her he would do whatever he pleased with her. Jane Does goes on to claim that after Epstein also forcibly raped her, he and Trump bickered over who should have taken the minor plaintiff's virginity. Rape Allegations Refiled Against Trump | Courthouse News Service

So, I guess there won't be a USS Pussy Grabber...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2.19  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2.18    last year
So, I guess there won't be a USS Pussy Grabber...

to be fair, whatever USN ship has the most sailors on board should be changed to the USS melania. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.2.20  MrFrost  replied to  George @3.2.12    last year

If if being a child molesting is a disqualifier, we will have to make sure nothing is ever named after Biden. Maybe they can name a shower after him in the vatican.

512

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.21  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @3.2.17    last year

...

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.3  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    last year
Democrats are now fighting to name a ship after a child molester

These words mean nothing if you voted for a man with 34 felony convictions to be president.

These words mean nothing if you voted for a known sexual assaulter to be president.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @3.3    last year

way better comeback than mine

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @3.3    last year
hese words mean nothing if you voted for a man with 34 felony convictions to be president. These words mean nothing if you voted for a known sexual assaulter to be president.

Whoops.  I've never voted for Trump.

But always funny when Clinton/Biden voters play that card. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.3.3  devangelical  replied to  Tacos! @3.3    last year

it sounds like getting away with crimes is the same thing as being not guilty to some ...

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.3.4  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3.2    last year
I've never voted for Trump.

We have no way to confirm that, but since you’re here every day supporting that sexual assaulter and convicted felon, I stand by my earlier comment. Anything you have to say about how we shouldn’t have a ship named for someone because of their sexual, or otherwise criminal behavior, must be seen as hypocritical bullshit.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.3.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @3.3.4    last year

y day supporting that sexual assaulter and convicted felon

Right. Per NT's left wing puppets, anyone who doesn't  parrot ridiculous reality defying  left wing blue anon talking points is MAGA.  To point out their lies means one must be  "supporting Trump."  

, must be seen as hypocritical bullshit.

Again, pure comedy when Clinton/Biden voters play that card.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.6  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3.2    last year
Whoops.  I've never voted for Trump.

Does not matter what you claim when you consistently defend Trump.   You clearly support and defend him even now when you can see the damage he is doing.   It really does not matter if you voted for him or not.   If people like you would stop supporting this irresponsible, incompetent, vindictive buffoon Congress might find enough backbone to serve as a check on his acts.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.3.7  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.6    last year

meh, most of the trump supporters will deny ever voting for him before his term ends ...

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.8  TᵢG  replied to  devangelical @3.3.7    last year

Seems to me most will defend him no matter what.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.3.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.6    last year
ou clearly support and defend him even now when you can see the damage he is doing

No, it's simply that I won't lie, make batshit crazy hyperbolic claims  and deny reality in the name of "stopping Trump."  I support those politics of his I agree with and oppose those that I don't.  So many progressives simply act exactly like they claim Trump does that they've lost any claim to the moral high ground when dealing with Trump. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.10  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3.9    last year

No, Sean, the reality is that you consistently defend Trump.   And your defense is fundamentally dishonest.   Ultimately, Trump is so over the top in terms of wrongdoing it is laughable (if this were not so serious) that anyone even considers this guy a PotUS.

Don't even try to pretend that defending Trump is in some way honorable.   We will all laugh at such an attempt.

The current PotUS is a sick and stupid individual.  He is a vindictive, childish, irresponsible, irrational buffoon.   There is no defending the actions of Trump.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.4  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    last year
Democrats are now fighting to name a ship after a child molester who was also a Jim jones cheerleader who lobbied President Carter to ensure kids remained at Jonestown rather than being returned to their parents. 

No one is suggesting we name it after trump. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.4.1  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @3.4    last year

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Hallux
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4  seeder  Hallux    last year

Let's also note that Hegseth has yet to name someone to oversee sexual molestation within the armed forces and instead focuses on the USNS Harvey Milk like some drunken Little Jack Horner. What a good little boy he is ... eh?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @4    last year

he's a useless thumper nationalist with a history of leaving burning bushes behind in hotel rooms ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @4.1    last year
burning bushes behind in hotel rooms .

chlamydia?

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.1    last year

meh, whatever STD du jour that's making the rounds inside FOX news ... best ask lara trump ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @4    last year

Hegseth doesn't care about sexual molestation in the armed forces. He doesn't want women in the military so why try to protect them?

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
4.2.1  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2    last year

Hegseth obviously has not heard of The Daughters of Kobani who probably did more to defeat ISIS than any other fighting force.

foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/15/daughters-of-kobani-review-female-kurdish-fighters-isis/#:~:text=Ferocious%20and%20unwavering%2C%20these%20women,Turkey%20to%20join%20their%20ranks.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2    last year
He doesn't want women in the military

he just has a different idea about their scope of duties within the services ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @4.2.1    last year

I don't believe he's a student of world history or current events

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    last year

I thought conservatives opposed erasing history. Not anymore?

I expect that changing a ship name would be fairly expensive. There’s got to be more to it than just repainting the name. Plaques, stationery, emails, website, uniforms. That all costs money. Seems kinda wasteful for an administration claiming it is trying to eliminate waste and be more efficient.

Isn’t it maritime tradition that changing a ship’s name is bad luck?

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1  devangelical  replied to  Tacos! @5    last year
Seems kinda wasteful for an administration claiming it is trying to eliminate waste and be more efficient.

it's a necessary expense when it comes to de-woking the military for the 4th reich fuhrer ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @5    last year

I think it is and sailors tend to be a superstitious lot

 
 
 
MrFrost
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6  MrFrost    last year

Trump's DUI hire is a moron. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @6    last year

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TᵢG
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7  TᵢG    last year

This is the extent of Hegseth's competence, renaming things and removing information that clashes with Trump's bigotry.

What a pathetic choice for Secretary of Defense.   Trump is incompetent and irresponsible.   Supporting Trump is a profound failure of critical thinking.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7    last year
renaming things

Perhaps it may be wise not to give warships political names.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2    last year

I agree, warships should be named after those who made great military accomplishments or presidents (commanders in chief).

Regardless, that was not my point.   My point is that Hegseth is engaging in activities at his level of competence.   Petty nonsense and obsequiously doing the distorted bidding of Trump.

The servile support of Trump is sickening (and dangerous).

 
 
 
charger 383
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8  charger 383    last year

Harvey Milk is not a name for a ship that will strike fear in the enemy

 
 
 
Tacos!
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8.1  Tacos!  replied to  charger 383 @8    last year

Well, that’s ok because it’s an oiler.

 
 

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