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EV update

  

Category:  Alternative Energy

Via:  bob-nelson  •  last year  •  20 comments

By:   Text from Marnus Moolman - "Autoblog". Videos from "Transport Evolved News" and "Auto EV"

EV update



A few days ago, someone seeded an utterly fake news article about EVs.

EVs, and alternative energy in general, are doing fne, despite Big Oil's billion dollar bribe to Donald Trump.


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"Autoblog is for gearheads of all stripes. ICE or EV.

"Transport Evolved News" is a weekly "what's happening in the world of alternative energy, and EVs". If you want to keep up, watch it. If you prefer to remain ignorant... don't watch it.

MG was the first Chinese manufacturer to enter Europe, with very low prices for basic (electric) transportation. Now they're moving upscale. They make cars in Mexico... but not for Americans.





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Honda Prologue and Hyundai Ioniq 5 Set July Record as EV Tax Credit Countdown Begins
Honda’s Prologue outsold the Ioniq 5 and Mach-E last month. The EV sales race is heating up ahead of a major tax credit deadline.

512 July was a huge month for electric vehicles in the U.S., and two standout models helped lead the way: the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and the Honda Prologue . Both compact electric SUVs posted their best-ever July sales, pushing their brands to new overall sales records and setting the tone for what could be a very electrified end to summer.

384 Hyundai Ioniq 5 Sets New July Benchmark

Hyundai sold 5,818 units of the Ioniq 5 in July, a massive 71% increase over the same month last year. That helped push Hyundai to its best July ever in the U.S., with total sales reaching 79,543 units. About a third of those were electrified vehicles, and the Ioniq 5 continues to play a key role in that success, especially the new XRT trim level . Built in Georgia, the Ioniq 5 remains one of the top-selling EVs in the country. Hyundai claims it delivers up to 318 miles of range and can charge from 10% to 80% in roughly 20 minutes when using a fast charger. The bold, retro-futuristic design is just the cherry on top. Prices start at $42,600, making it one of the better value picks in the segment.

Honda Prologue Pulls Ahead of the Pack


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Honda ’s Prologue had an even stronger month. With 6,318 units sold in July, it not only beat the Ioniq 5 but also outsold the 5,308 Ford Mustang Mach-Es, despite Ford’s new lease offers . Honda’s total electrified sales reached 38,050 for the month, setting a new July record for the brand. The Prologue is built on GM’s Ultium platform and offers an EPA-estimated range of 308 miles. It starts at $47,400, so it’s priced a bit higher than the Hyundai and Ford, but Honda recently sweetened the deal by giving drivers access to Tesla ’s Supercharger network, which includes more than 23,500 stations across the U.S.

The Tax Clock Is Ticking


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While these EVs are impressive on their own, the rush may also have something to do with timing. Both electric SUVs currently qualify for the full $7,500 federal EV incentive. But that’s set to expire at the end of September for many models, prompting buyers to act fast. So far in 2025, the Mustang Mach-E is still slightly ahead with 27,093 total units sold. The Ioniq 5 sits at 24,910, followed closely by the Prologue at 22,635. With two months left before the tax break disappears, this sales race is far from over.














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Bob Nelson
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1  seeder  Bob Nelson    last year

Median MAGAs aren't rich. They would benefit from moving to alternative energy, in health, finances, and (gasp!!!) quality of life. But their Lord and Master has Commanded them to cut their own throats, and they must obey....

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2  Sparty On    last year

I’ll take EV’s serious when they start being honest about estimated range.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @2    last year
I’ll take EV’s serious when they start being honest about estimated range.

EVs (no apostrophe for plural) don't actually say anything at all. Not about range or anything else. They can't speak. They can't think.

OTOH, various governmental and semi-governmental organizations test cars in many ways, and publish the results. They test crash-worthiness, for example... although I suppose that will be eliminated in the US, soon, along with all other consumer protections. These organizations use standard tests, in order to obtain results that are comparable from one car to another.

These various organizations use differing standards, so their numerical results are different. The relative results of different cars are very similar.

When one of these organizations begins testing any new aspect of automotive design, it must develop a new standard. That standard will not give results that are identical to real-world results. The standard is revised and improved over time.

(Crash-test results probably aren't identical to real-world, either, but cars don't have easy-to-read crash numbers on their instrument panels, so drivers don't quibble.)

There are three major EV range standards. The Chinese yields the longest range. The European is in the middle. The American yields the shortest. None of these standards is "accurate", but a car that gets high range on any one of them will also get high range on the others.

There is no sense in waiting for standard range numbers to be accurate. It's pointless, and will never happen. 

OTOH, if you want a stupid excuse for definitively refusing to consider buying an EV, this is available...

Oh, and... for the vast majority of drivers, range is of no importance whatsoever. "Range anxiety" is for people incapable of planning their next meal. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1    last year

Yeah, they have to lie to sell the technology.    Perfect for the bleeders of the world.      Jump off the cliff right behind the bleeder ahead of you.

Outstanding.

Oh, and... for the vast majority of drivers, range is of no importance whatsoever. "Range anxiety" is for people incapable of planning their next meal. 

Spoken like a person who has no idea what he is talking about.    Meanwhile sales of EV’s continues to lag behind expectations.      Pick it up bleeders.     Carry your weight

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1.2  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.1    last year

I own an EV. I have to plug it in - to an ordinary 16 A socket, at home - once a week.

Why anyone decides to be stupid is incomprehensible.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.2    last year

So, do you consider yourself part of the “vast majority” of drivers?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1.4  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.3    last year

Yes

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.4    last year

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Sparty On
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2.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.5    last year

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sparty On @2    last year

Recently I had to travel for work.  From Central NC to southern Georgia.  In total I saw MAYBE 15 EVs.  None on the open road, all within a very short distance from a city.  And all cut people off and were the general dicks on the road.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2    last year

For folks that only have a short commute each day, EV’s are the ticket.    Once you require more than that you are screwed if you don’t have a hybrid or gas vehicle.     That’s why you don’t see a lot of EV’s out on the open highway anywhere except near a big city.

As for being dicks, I’ve seen that as well but I have a theory.    That they were dicks long before they bought an EV.    EV’s just tend to attract dickheads.

I think we have empirical evidence of that here.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.2.2  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @2.2.1    last year

I remember dicks rolling coal... 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year

Our GSA Fleet manager notified us that they are removing the EV's from the fleet because of the cost associated with them.  We've had 24 EVs for about 6 months now and they have been "in the shop" for 4 months because of recalls and failing critical parts.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    last year

Oh. Very significant. 

Of something. 

I'm sure. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1    last year
Oh. Very significant.  Of something. 

They've cost more than quoted, have had major issues and not worth the headache.  

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1.2  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.1    last year

I see. The numbers you present are very convincing. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.1    last year

They have to lie to sell it.     Right in their wheelhouse.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4  Greg Jones    last year

They catch fire way too often. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Greg Jones @4    last year

True.

Much less often than ICE cars, but still, too often.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1    last year
Much less often than ICE cars, but still, too often

Many of them catch fire the same way EVs do. Through leftist arson. 

 
 

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