The democrat's government shutdown
Link to quote: Chuck Schumer on chance of shutdown: ‘It depends on the Republicans’
The US government is rapidly heading for a shutdown. Weeks ago, Speaker Johnson offered up a clean bill which was nothing more than a continuing resolution to keep the government open until the end of the year. The democrats want to add health care and Obamacare subsidies to it and want to renegotiate the bill at the 11th hour. If there is no bill passed by Tuesday the government will shut down and this time, despite their projection, the democrats will be to blame.
You may ask if there is some miracle that could take place between now and tomorrow? That is as close to impossible as one can get. Members of congress are mostly out of town and even the President who was considering meeting with democrats has given up and left town.
The standoff for democrats helps to placate their far-left base which demands that everyone resist Trump at every turn. The problem democrats have is trying to gaslight the American public into believing that the shutdown wasn't their fault.
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Dems just want to add more spending that will not benefit American citizens/
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Healthcare subsidies won't benefit American citizens? How about a shiny new ballroom for the white house?
It's hilarious that Temu Obama is trying to gaslight people into thinking he cares for the citizens of the US.
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So insult a person rather than comment on the seed? Why?
I think that the question I asked is legitimate. If you think that the posting of a legitimate question is a personal attack I cannot help you.
If you think that was a legitimate question, then I can't help you. But that was not a legitimate question, it was an attack.
Yeah, sure. why not... (sigh)
Fuck these people. The 2025 deficit at the end of August was $2 Trillion. And they want another $1 Trillion to pass a CR?
How can we force a constitutional convention to create an Amendment that states if Congress does not pass the budgets as they are supposed to and the government shuts down, they do not get paid until they fix the problem.
We may have the necessary votes to do just that after the midterm elections.
I don't know about that. The Democrats are successfully attacking the administration on the simple issue of a campaign promise by Trump. He promised to lower prices on day 1 and that didn't happen. Doesn't matter that it was an impossible promise to try to keep, the Democrats are successfully using it and the majority of people still vote on those kitchen table issues. Add in that partisans still vote for their party over any other reality and now add in the rather successful gerrymandering that the Democrats have done over the years in states that they have controlled and I suspect we will continue with the tight margins in both the House and the Senate. And because Washington is more beholden to their respective parties, little will change over the remainder of our lives.
I would add two notes to that.
1) You are right that democrats should hit Trump on any promises he failed to deliver on or policies that harm the economy. But the dems are fighting him on things like immigration enforcement and crime prevention. They keep taking on losing issues because it means something to their far-left base.
2) While it is true that the dems have redistricted to the maximum limits in their states, the Republicans are now playing the same game. That will help.
The Schumer shutdown is looming; Schmuck Schumer deserves all the credit for lost jobs and wages.
The shutdown hits, I'm doing just as I have for previous shutdowns. The minute my income stops, I change my billing information to Democrat offices so THEY can pay my bills.
Democrats are going to shut down the government over insurance. And Democrats are not upset that insurance companies are going to raise premium prices. Democrats are worried that insurance companies won't be able to transfer money from the many to the few.
Do Democrats really believe insurance salesmen are more popular than Republicans?
The same story as always, democrats demanding that they be able to use taxpayer dollars to buy votes.
Isn't it really over the additional money that was spent during the Covid pandemic that was cut by the recent Republican BBB bill?
Yeah, shit. Give away that free money, can't see any harm that could come from that... /s
It's also about using Medicaid for backdoor funding of abortions.
Thanks for that. Someone else said it on this board and I'll paraphrase, I support all the abortions that you can pay for yourself. But I don't want tax money going to that.
Abortions save tax money
So do lots of other things that don't take lives.
True, but what ever happened to people being responsible for their own actions? Why should the government continue to go further into debt by trying to fix people's mistakes?
because it saves money in the long run and overpopulation and unwanted children that won't be raised properly and will be on welfare because people who should be responsible don't have the resources or ability to pay the cost of the kid so government will end up paying more in the long run.
" but what ever happened to people being responsible for their own actions"
I don't know how to fix that, Long time ago, when people were supposedly more responsible for their own actions a lot of them just did not make it but they kept having kids and that continued the cycle
Easier to fix a little mistake than let it become a continuing cost
I understand that but still disagree. People should be responsible for their own actions. Hell, even the lowly condom is on average 87% effective and is 98% effective when used properly according to the Cleveland Clinic.
If the federal government was not so deeply in debt I could be more supportive but the current debt level is IMO unsustainable.
Understandable but people who take advantage of such situations become used to it and lazy in finding ways to grow out of it. I grew up in the 60's in a very small town in Wisconsin. I remember when a family moved to town and they first lived in an old hardware store using sheets for walls. They were there for a few months until they got a house to rent. The family of 4 was on welfare and they obviously were experts at getting every dollar from that they could. Nobody ever worked that I knew of. The two kids bragged at how much money they got and each of them at 16 were able to buy a brand-new car.
How many stories are there of generational families living on welfare? Stories of unwed mothers pumping out additional babies because the government gives them more money? Where does it end?
People should responsible for their actions and live with the results. good or bad; BUT, how do you make that happen?
I think it is easier to fix what you can and lower expanding generation multiplication
I know many of those situations too and I worked at a boarding school. Abortions can break the cycle and are a cheaper fix than changing lack of personal responsibility for millions already in welfare cycle
I agree that abortion is a cheaper fix to the immediate problem, but does it really fix the overall problem? There is also no easy way to get people to be responsible for themselves, it's trying to legislate morality. I believe it would require a multi-generational effort to change minds and there's just no way to get 100% compliance in this either.
But I'm tired of tax dollars being spent as a band aid.
democrats are thrilled to shut it down.
Again.
This only shows democrats will never take responsibility for the harm they are causing this country, and only know how to blame Republicans, and ESPECIALLY Trump, since they have zero positive plans for this country.
UPDATE:
Russ Vought, head of the Office of Management and Budget, announced the cancellations on social media and said additional details would be provided by the Department of Energy. All of the states affected by the cuts voted for former Vice President Kamala Harris in the 2024 presidential election, and all are represented by Democrats in the Senate.
"Nearly $8 billion in Green New Scam funding to fuel the Left's climate agenda is being cancelled," Vought wrote on X . "
Trump administration cancels $8 billion for climate projects in latest shutdown cuts - CBS News
They can't pay the military then it only makes sense that these don't get paid.