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Category:  News & Politics

Via:  bob-nelson  •  11 months ago  •  6 comments

By:   Jason Slaughter

KEEP THEM OUT!



Pedestrian deaths in America are rising.

Pedestrian deaths in Europes are falling.

Here's why...


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Europe makes better cars than America. By any criterion you choose.

Americans are too pig-headed to look across the pond, to see how to do better.





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Bob Nelson
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1  seeder  Bob Nelson    11 months ago

Facts, people!

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2  Jack_TX    11 months ago
Europe makes better cars than America. By any criterion you choose.

They make better cars for Europe. Which should not surprise anybody.

Americans are too pig-headed to look across the pond, to see how to do better.

I'll listen to this when Europeans put in air conditioning. 175k deaths a year, but "we don't need A/C over here".  Bitch please.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jack_TX @2    11 months ago

Switch and bait is beneath you. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3  Tacos!    11 months ago

Cargo vehicles and buses have "blunt, vertical front ends." I don't see calls to get rid of those vehicles. 

This argument is a bit like arguing that certain calibers of gun need to be eliminated. Getting shot by any caliber of gun can kill you. The real answer is to not shoot people.

Similarly, with cars, getting hit by any car sucks and will likely kill you. In many cases, it might be better to be killed instead of living a long life disfigured or paralyzed. The trick is to not have crashes.

The video supports this. Lower deaths in Europe are attributed not to smaller cars, but to improvements in road design and regulations, and safety regulations for cars. That will include things like accident avoidance systems, better brakes, and so on. Less accidents is the main cause of lower deaths.

Could some regulations to protect pedestrians help on American cars? Sure. But it still sucks to get hit - even by a European car.

The video also implies that Americans had to be convinced by marketers to buy trucks, and with the dates presented in the video, further implies this is a recent development. But the Ford F-150 has been the best-selling vehicle in America for 41 years. Not just the best-selling truck, but the best selling vehicle. The number two and three vehicles are also trucks.

And it took time to get there, so you have to figure trucks generally, have been very popular for a very long time. Arguably the most famous and notable vehicle in the history of automobiles is the Ford Model T - a truck.

Does everyone in America use their truck bed every day? No, of course not. But an awful lot of us do. It's part of our culture. Americans carry shit with their vehicles.

 
 
 
zuksam
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4  zuksam    11 months ago

As if Europe doesn't have Trucks, the Tradesmen must work out of their hatchbacks (sarc). Because of the high number of old streets that are narrow and were never designed for automobiles they tend to use small cabover trucks. But these trucks have flat fronts, they're high, and terrible rearward visibility and while their forward visibility is good, they are not particularly safe in collisions. I hate it when someone who doesn't personally have a use for something just arbitrarily calls it stupid and wants it banned. Cars and Trucks have different purposes and so they are designed differently and that might affect safety in different ways. Go ahead and ban trucks because you don't think they are necessary because there's a guy on a bike who thinks cars are unnecessary and there's another guy who walks who thinks all those bikes are a nuisance and there's a guy who lives in a tent who thinks your house is a terrible waste of resources and maybe they're right but that doesn't mean they should be able to decide how everyone else lives.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  zuksam @4    11 months ago

Simple fact: traffic is less deadly in Europe. You can wiggle any way you like but that's the reality.

Yes, vans - more common in Europe than the States - are slab-nosed. But speeds are lower, so...

You're starting from "America is right", which simply isn't always true. Try starting from "where are people safer". 

 
 

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