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Population growth and a global food crisis

  

Category:  History & Sociology

Via:  bob-nelson  •  9 months ago  •  11 comments

By:   Dave Borlace - Just Have a Think

 Population growth and a global food crisis



This is for charger383.

I kinda hammered him for repeating for the zillionth time that "the problem isn't gobal warming - it's overpopulation".

Well... guess what?

It's BOTH!


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Bob Nelson
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1  seeder  Bob Nelson    9 months ago

I guess my perception of world food production was a few years old. It did not integrate the damage to food production that will be done by global warming.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @1    9 months ago

I figured it was caused by both. Overpopulation leads to more climate change which leads to famines.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
2  charger 383    9 months ago

Thank you, I have been concerned about this for a long time 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    9 months ago

The reality- As population as surged, starvation has dramatically dropped.

No theory has ever been more comprehensively debunked by reality than the population bomb  written almost 60 years ago and people still cling to it because it suits their world view. It's as bad as the climate doomerism claiming we are always 5-10 aways from an environmental apocalypse for the last 40 years and people still fall for it.  

It's really amazing to see...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4  Hal A. Lujah    9 months ago

The problem with making a claim that overpopulation is negatively impacting the human race, the implication is that the population needs to be reduced.  That is obviously a very controversial statement.  You can reduce the population of the chickens on your farm … there are shelters that are forced to reduce the population of their unwanted pets … when the deer population is too high there are hunting solutions.  If someone is going to claim there are too many humans and just let that assertion dangle, then we can only imagine what the asserter’s solution is.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    9 months ago

free birth control

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.1.1  charger 383  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1    9 months ago

problem solving, reduces worry and cost effective

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1    9 months ago

That has some value for the future, but the problem is when people say it’s a present problem.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  charger 383 @4.1.1    9 months ago

yep

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.1.2    9 months ago

Population has to be reduced gradually not immediately. Tho I know there's a conspiracy theory out there that says some global group like the Illuminati have a plan to reduce Earth's population to 7 million. Which is impractical because there would be no more society

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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5  Nerm_L    9 months ago

The video overlooks the compounding problem of commoditization of food to obtain profit from trade.  That has driven food crops toward monoculture farming amenable to automated harvesting to maximize profit.  Comingled polyculture farming would be more resilient to a changing climate and much less water intensive but the necessary labor to harvest becomes enormous.  (AI and robotics may be able to address the labor intensity.)

The discussion about lab grown proteins (cultured meat) is pretty bogus.  Cultured meat production is extraordinarily water intensive; for operating the culture reactors and for sanitation.  The claims depend upon best case predictions for recycling and purifying water.  Cultured meat is still a factory farm that requires large amounts of energy and water.

Climate change causing a drier environment would actually favor a shift toward forage grasses and a different selection of food animal.  Goats, sheep, bison, deer, llamas & alpacas, rabbits, and even swine have evolved to survive and thrive in drier environments using foods (forage grasses, shrubs, etc.) that humans cannot process as food.  Grazing animals naturally recycle their waste.  Grazing animals also tend to improve both carbon and water retention by the land.  There is growing interest in Regenerative Rewilding which looks at a more natural diversification of food resources.

 
 

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