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It's official: Gulf of America name change goes into effect

  
Via:  George  •  2 months ago  •  47 comments

By:   Trevor Hughes (USA TODAY)

It's official: Gulf of America name change goes into effect
The body of water formerly known as the Gulf of Mexico has now been formally renamed in the Geographic Names Information System.

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It's official: The Gulf of Mexico is no more (at least in the United States, anyway).

Workers at the federal Board on Geographic Names have formally changed the name to the Gulf of America per one of President Donald Trump's first executive orders. The change doesn't affect what other countries call it, and Mexico's president has promised to ignore it and asked others to do the same.

Trump on Sunday flew in Air Force 1 over the Gulf while attending the Super Bowl, and declared the day as the "first-ever Gulf of America Day." Traveling with the president, Interior Secretary Doug Burgum shared on social media an official USGS map image showing the new name.

While some U.S agencies immediately began using the new name upon Trump's Jan. 20 order, it's now effective across all the federal government because it's been changed in the centralized Geographic Names Information System.

Google has also updated its maps. Apple ignored a request for comment for whether it would honor the change, and had not swapped in the new name by 5 p.m. on Monday.

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo joked that she's going to start calling the United States "Mexican America" in retaliation. International practice is to use whatever place name is preferred by the country a specific geographic feature belongs to, but the gulf touches Mexico, the United States, Cuba and several other island nations.

There is precedent for different names for the same places: A contested chain off islands off the coast of South America is known by the British as the Falkland Islands, while Argentina, which also claims the islands, calls them the Islas Malvinas. Argentina invaded the islands in 1982, sparking a vicious two-month battle won by the British.

Also changed is the name of tallest mountain in North America, which is again Mount McKinley to the federal government. While Alaska officials long deemed the mountain Denali, it wasn't called by that by federal officials until President Barack Obama aligned it in 2015.

Trump called Obama's action an "affront to President McKinley's life, his achievements, and his sacrifice."

In renaming Denali, Trump specifically highlighted McKinley's use of tariffs ‒ a Trump favorite ‒ and his "expansion of territorial gains." McKinley, a Republican, added Puerto Rico, Guam, the Philippines and Hawaii to the United States in various forms.

Trump has said he wants to annex Greenland, suggested that Canada should become the 51st state, and threatened to invade Panama to take back the Panama Canal.

Although the mountain has been renamed, the national park that encloses it remains the same: Denali National Park and Preserve.

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George
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1  seeder  George    2 months ago

Yeah! we solved a problem that never existed. will the next president change every name back? or leave it? and will we be updating maps every 4/8 years?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Fuck Trump.

 
 
 
George
Senior Expert
2.1  seeder  George  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 months ago

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Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3  Sean Treacy    2 months ago

I don’t really ever change  names.  It’s still the sears tower in Chicago. 

looks like I’ll be right for a lot of things  every four years or so.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
4  charger 383    2 months ago

This name changing is silly and that football team that plays around Washington still gets called the Redskins

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
5  squiggy    2 months ago

It’s not that far from Ft Rucker.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
5.1  bugsy  replied to  squiggy @5    2 months ago

Was that named after the Darius one? jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
6  Nerm_L    2 months ago

Nope, it has been and always will be the Gulf of Mexico.  Why further confuse kids who can't find America on a map?  (Hint:  On maps, it's named the United States.)

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
PhD Guide
7  Right Down the Center    2 months ago

IMO it was dumb to change it and it is dumb to get bent out of shape over it.

BYW The tappan zee bridge was renamed the Mario Cuomo bridge in 2017.  It is still the tappan zee to me

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8  Mark in Wyoming     2 months ago

Speaking of renaming things .

 it crossed my feed that Sec Hegseth has ordered that  Ft Liberty is to be renamed Ft Bragg again .

Now before the virtue signalers have a conniption , it is NOT being renamed after the former confederate general as it was before . But a decorated  WW2 PFC Roland L Bragg who served in the battle of the bulge .

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8    2 months ago

Lol. Did they pick the pfc's name out of a hat?

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8.1.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    2 months ago

LOL i think his parents gave him that name  frankly , just so happens he has the same surname as the other guy .

 and it is within military tradition of naming forts after military members , now that honor going to a PFC  is something new to me .

 it did bring to mind the movie the green berets , and the problem a character had  about naming something after him , Provos privvy .

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
8.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    2 months ago

Strangely you could be correct—a red MAGA hat would be appropriate.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Sophomore Quiet
8.1.3  Igknorantzruls  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    2 months ago
Did they pick the pfc's name out of a hat

Probably just named after Trump

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.1.1    2 months ago

If the fort there was not previously named Bragg , after a racist confederate general, would they be changing the name to Bragg now? I hate to disenchant Maga, but some of us are not as stupid as they are.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.4    2 months ago

I guess some people here are afraid of the truth

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8.1.6  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.4    2 months ago

To many that were stationed there , it was always and always will be   Ft Bragg, the liberty name never really caught on , if im reading the comment section of the article correctly . even with those currently stationed there .

The new name change is not changing it from some other person  but to that of someone that actually was stationed there  and was decorated . So there is no disrespect in my view .

 Roland is not Braxton . the only connection is in the same last name .

 i checked the guy out , and he isnt even a southerner , and came from humble beginnings from whats on line .

 If his last name is a problem , then in my view , its your problem alone to deal with because like i said , Roland wasnt Braxton . two entirely different people .

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.1.6    2 months ago

You are a smart guy I know that you know what the word disingenuous means. Anyone claiming that the fort is not being renamed Bragg because it previously was named Bragg is being disingenuous on steroids. PFC Braggs worthiness to have anything named after him is irrelevant in this circumstance

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8.1.8  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.7    2 months ago

Like i said , i checked it out , albeit , online , but he was on a list of names kept by the pentagon  of potential names for bases .  who am i to second guess who the pentagon or the Sec Def thinks worthy ?

Am i being disingenuous? nope , i just think its a happy coinkydink  that it happened as it did .

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.1.8    2 months ago

this is america, you can think anything you want.

Coincidence? hilarious.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
8.1.10  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.9    2 months ago

Simple correction.

It's spelled America

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8.1.11  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.9    2 months ago

Now if you ask me if i think Hegseth did it as a high hard one to a particular group?  i think there are grounds from what i have read about him , that possibility is definitely in the mix .

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.1.11    2 months ago

what is your rationale for having U.S. military installations named after traitors? Is there a Ft. Benedict Arnold ?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
8.1.13  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.12    2 months ago
ing U.S. military installations named after traitors?

It was named after general Bragg originally as a sign of reconciliation.  We name helicopters after Apaches for the same reason.

 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8.1.14  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.12    2 months ago
what is your rationale for having U.S. military installations named after traitors?

Is Roland L Bragg a traitor ? I didnt catch that in his write up. it stated much the opposite actually .

 because that is the premise of what i initially posted about the name change .

 i even pointed out that the base was NOT being renamed after Braxton Bragg, but an entirely different person .

 As you said , its America , one can believe what they want . your welcome to believe what you want as well , its just your ability to influence what others think , lets just say its left ..... wanting as of late . Not that you really had any influence over me anyway .

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8.1.15  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.13    2 months ago
It was named after Bragg as a sign of reconciliation.

when it was named after Braxton Bragg , yes , but the current name change  is after an entirely different person 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.13    2 months ago

I don't recall the Apaches being traitors.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.17  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.1.14    2 months ago

[] whatever.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8.1.18  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.17    2 months ago

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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.19  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.1.18    2 months ago

 I know you dont really believe it is a coincidence, so you are disingenuously clowning the topic. Not my fault or problem.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8.1.20  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.19    2 months ago
Not my fault or problem.

sure seems to be.

so hegseth found someone on the naming list with the same last name, who by the way is a better person to name the base after IMO , and as predicted someone has had a fit with it , i just didnt say WHO i thought would have the fit . you havent let me down yet .

 Right now your reminding me of an old hunting hound thats blind in one eye , cant see out of the other and just bit a skunks ass and got pissed in the mouth and is now trying to shake the taste out of it .

 and since the renaming is not after one BRAXTON Bragg, but an entirely different person who was airborne , was decorated by the US Army, in battle , frankly your opinion of why he was chosen is moot and about as insignificant as a wart on a fleas ass on said old hunting hound 

 so yeah you DO have a problem , no ones listening to you , no one cares and no one will be influenced by you . in that respect you like the blind hound that barks at every little thing . just a minor annoyance 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8.1.21  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.19    2 months ago
I know

When it comes to me ? you dont know shit from shinola , with the exception of the fact i seldom agree with your point of view .

 thats because i think its a shitty view angle .

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.22  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.1.20    2 months ago

Your comments about this are fucking disingenuous. Im finishèd with this.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
PhD Guide
8.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8    2 months ago

 Brilliant work around.  I would have probably just changed it back and said it was stupid to change it to begin with.  The name was fine for 100 years until the woke fools decided to be outraged and insulted by it.

Hopefully some statues that were taken down find their way back.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @8.2    2 months ago

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George
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8.2.2  seeder  George  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.1    2 months ago

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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  George @8.2.2    2 months ago

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Trout Giggles
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8.2.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.3    2 months ago

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bugsy
Professor Participates
8.2.5  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.2.4    2 months ago
I thought it was my group that had the rogue moderator

It is.,

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8    2 months ago
Now before the virtue signalers have a conniption , it is NOT being renamed after the former confederate general as it was before . But a decorated  WW2 PFC Roland L Bragg who served in the battle of the bulge .

Have you noticed that these virtue signaling idiots didn't rename Fort Bragg, California?  It's named after the same person Fort Bragg, NC was named after.  

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
8.3.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.3    2 months ago

i did not , interesting .

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
9  Tacos!    2 months ago

My Google Maps has the change. My Apple Maps does not.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
10  Trout Giggles    2 months ago

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Freefaller
Professor Quiet
11  Freefaller    2 months ago

The rest of the world and likely a good chunk of the USA will just ignore the change

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
11.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Freefaller @11    2 months ago

to me it will always simply be "the gulf "  no America , no Mexico , no nothing , simply the gulf .

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
PhD Guide
11.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @11.1    2 months ago
to me it will always simply be "the gulf "  no America , no Mexico , no nothing , simply the gulf .

To me it will always be the place I swear some Man o wars were watching me walk down the beach in Galveston.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
11.1.2  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.1    2 months ago

LOL for me ? the golden age of piracy and a quart of west indies trade goods  ( rum ) .

 ARRgh matey .

 
 

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