2. Thomas Jefferson owned appx 600 slaves during his lifetime.
3. Franklin fathered one illegitimate child for sure, rumors were up to ten additional.
4. True. There is no right to vote in the Constitution. The Founders wanted to restrict the vote to white men with property.
5. Washington bought their teeth from slaves on occasion, to be used in the creation of false teeth for himself. He paid them much less than the going rate though.
You don't get it. You are enabling people that would destroy this country in their idolatry of the worst president in US history. This is an emergency, not the time to make sure you are "fair" in your analysis of Biden's gaffes.
I seeded a video where people recite 113 reasons Trump needs to be defeated. There is hardly an exaggeration in there, and the weight of the evidence is overwhelming that Trump must be removed. Its overwhelming. Your efforts on this forum are usually to latch on to Bidens gaffes and thus set it up as a "choice" the voters need to make. As I just said in a comment on another seed, there is no "choice" in this election unless there is something wrong with you the voter.
The election is in a few weeks. There is no choice, Biden is perfectly fit for office and Trump is not remotely fit. I dont care if Biden mangles some numbers he is reading . It is insignificant. There is more than enough evidence from other interviews that his mind is fine. Trumps mind is completely corrupt. Completely , and he is mentally ill. There is no reasonable "choice" in this election and you should stop acting as if there is.
The entire gop establishment is beholden to Putin now just like Trump is.
It is more than just the GOP establishment that is responsible for this atrocious and malicious presidency. Everyone who voted for Trump in 2016 and hasnt lamented it by now is responsible too.
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The entire gop establishment is beholden to Putin now just like Trump is.
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I have NEVER seen you get so worked up on this forum over the hundreds of disgusting things Donald Trump has said or done over the past 5 years. Now you burst out in outrage over Pelosi getting a hair cut. LOL.
"Until that happens I dont believe a word of this article. I think it's made up."
That sentence was deleted out of my comment.
Vic, I gave you every chance , but you have gone too far. I'm not commenting on your articles any more. If I want to see this sort of censorship I will go back in time to the 1930's Soviet Union or Germany.
Some people have been playing VICTIM for 159 years. You seem to forget there were more than blacks held as slaves. Asians, Native Americans, Whites, virtually every skin color were held as slaves in the US.
Comments like that are borderline racism. Your comment, almost directly, implies that blacks who won't forget slavery have been playing the victim since the Civil War ended and they never had things worse than anyone else anyway.
These are the qualifications of the author of this seed
I am a retired former newspaper reporter and retail sales person. I'm a politically conservative easy going person from New Jersey. I am married to a wonderful wife and like talking and writing about movies,, concerts I attend and current events all which I write about here. I would enjoy hearing from anyone on my articles and they can write to me here.
In other words, he is no better or well informed than any member of Newstalkers. Probably worse. Why doesnt the seeder write his own rant about the world and post that as an article instead of inflicting this idiocy written by a "retired retail worker."
Nothing wrong with that at all, but then we would know that the seeded article is just a rant someone made on a website other than Newstalkers. Anyone can write for the source site. I could pretend to be a conservative half wit and I could get an article posted on that site. So could anyone. Why is it worthy of being a seed on our site?
My comment about "white grievance" has nothing to do with the murders in New Jersey, it has to do with white people who are outraged that the media didnt immediately identify the killers as non white.
Or they are outraged that a member of Congress assumed the killers were white.
Talib's mistake is something of a stain on her character, I would say. It is not a signal for white people on an internet forum to lash out stupidly about race. I have seen all of this before, and I know exactly what "white grievance" is about. And I know how it expresses itself.
Let's take a poll of the responders to this seed. How many of them think there is more black on white racism in America than white on non white?
Come on all of you MAGA's, dont be shy, raise your hands.
I see the question went right over your head. I have asked the very same for a couple of years now only to get, basically, crickets. Your inability to give any examples of your personal life being negatively affected says a lot. And comparing some lies to what Bernie Madoff did is disingenuous. Mr. Trump's propensity to embellish the truth has no ramifications in your everyday life and you know it...........and they aren't illegal.
Your type of comments are what get me in trouble with perrie. They are ridiculous, and when I say so I get deleted or eventually suspended. If I were you I wouldnt go around bragging that Trump's 10,000 lies dont effect people personally, so who cares? It's absurd man.
If Trump lies about a program he wants canceled and it gets canceled and people who depend on that program get negatively effected.
I was just reading this morning that no refugees were being allowed into America last month because of something Trump did. I would bet substantially that Trump lied about something involved in that happening.
He has lied publicly thousands of times. People dont have top pick through them and extract the ones that may have effected their lives specifically to know it is wrong and makes him unfit to be president of the United States, you just have to have a sense of decency.
Trump lied about Obama's birth certificate. That effected Obama's reputation. Trump is currently lying about the 2016 DNC server being in Ukraine. He lied about his taxes.
In fact, if Trump didnt lie so much he's probably be in prison now. And that effects everyone.
And, please, nothing you say goes over my head. If I were you I'd be embarrassed that
When I first heard this, I assumed, I think rightly, that this name change was similar to what China did when they changed Peking to Beijing. If Ukrainians want it to be so then it is so.
What is really interesting on this seed is the laughably lame attempt to "blame" "left" diplomats for the change. From the seeded article
Since 2014, when Russia illegally annexed Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula and fomented a war in the country’s eastern Donbas region, authorities in Kyiv have made a concerted effort at re-Ukrainianization, even down to the name of the capital city itself. It is not just a difference of transliteration but one of history, Ukrainians argue. The legendary founder of Kyiv, from whom the city gets its name is Prince Kyi, not Prince Kie. The name also has political implications. The Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs launched the #KyivNotKiev campaign last year to gain recognition for the Ukrainian spelling of the country’s cities. “Under the Russian empire and later the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR),” the ministry wrote , “Russification was actively used as a tool to extinguish each constituent country’s national identity, culture and language. In light of Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine, including its illegal occupation of Crimea, we are once again experiencing Russification as a tactic that attempts to destabilize and delegitimize our country.”
The government of Ukraine authorizes and promotes the new spelling and pronunciation. So what do right wingers on NT do? They try and mock the new pronunciation and spelling as "leftist"
There is no end to their bamboozling, although I think they are mainly bamboozling themselves.
Searching a room for Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi at last month's G7 summit in France, the WSJ reports , President Trump called out: “Where’s my favorite dictator?”
Why it matters: Sisi really is a dictator, and he really is closely allied with the Trump administration. Trump is untroubled by the idea of partnering with authoritarians, but his remark was "met by a stunned silence" according to the WSJ, which notes it's unclear if Sisi was in the room to hear it. When the two leaders met moments later, Trump praised Sisi as a "very tough man" who had "done a fantastic job."
Like you would never try to smear the Republican candidate, right?
Telling the truth about Donald Trump is not smearing him. You are a good example of why I have had to fight with the moderators about commenting on Trump supporters.
We have this person who is completely unfit to be president of the United States, yet we have to fight every day, over the same ground day after day, all because of trump supporters. THEY are the issue in this country right now.
Trump's election in 2016 depended on a willful suspension of disbelief by a mass of voters. I dont think that ever happened in a national election in America's history prior to that election.
The moderators on this site have pretty regularly censored me for saying unflattering things about Trump supporters (some). But I havent done that for no or for an insufficient reason. Quite to the contrary. Without supporters who were willing to suspend their disbelief for his benefit, a disgraceful buffoon like Trump wouldnt have gotten past the first Republican debate in 2015. ALL of it is on his supporters.
Trump's one chance of being re-elected is if he is normalized. This normalization has teetered and tottered over the past four years. So far, I think, when he gets real close to it he does something really stupid or offensive and his 'normality' goes up in flames. But his true blue followers are always there to try again to make all this seem normal. That is their legacy from this era, and it is not a pretty one.
Going by this seed and the comments, all we can say is that Trumpsters are proud and happy that their president shames and embarrasses the country every day.
A new poll shows only 45% of men and women in the U.S. are 'extremely proud' to be American. That is the lowest amount ever recorded by this poll. What do you think is causing the decline?
G.W.O. @gwo_design
It’s a tough call, but I’ll give it a shot.
I’d theorize it has something to do with a sociopathic, malignant sexual predator, narcissist running around the White House and the world, spreading racism, hate, xenophobia, and greed while enriching himself and endangering others.
You give me a coc violation for what? For telling them the truth?
If they can defend Trump on these assertions, then let's hear it from them. Otherwise, enough with the skirting violations.
Trump is a fraud, a con man, a perpetual liar, a crook, an ignoramus, and a buffoon. Those are not guesses. Those are the reality of the situation.
They try and defend Trump by either attacking me or making preposterous comparisons between Trump and Obama or Clinton. It is nothing but gaslighting and bamboozling.
Almost every comment on this seed contains a sweeping generalization, at least by the standards that are used here to remove comments as such.
The "sweeping generalization" reason for censorship should be ended. It allows uneven and inherently unfair censorship based on the dubious use of "flagging". It also encourages more visible activity by the moderators.
There is a rabid TRUMP defender here, that doubles as a "Moderator". He cruises anti-Rump post and pull out his "Sweeping generalization", rule, then makes "sweeping generation" about the person who posted the Anti-Trump comment.
I, too, believe that people have a Constitutional Right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH. It is extremely distressing to me, that this pro-Trump "bot" explosion by a paid moderator is unacceptable.
It is very difficult to comment when overbearing moderators have a free reign at chastising authors, posters, article content that disagrees with the "moderator's" personal political views.
Sen. Tim Scott , the lone black Republican in the Senate, followed up his emotional floor speech revealing that he had been targeted several times by police because of his skin color by calling for the country to have "tough, painful conversations" about race.
Poll: Most young people dislike GOP's Trump, say he's racist
NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump is wildly unpopular among young adults, in particular young people of color, and nearly two-thirds of Americans between the ages of 18 and 30 believe the presumptive Republican nominee is racist.
A mere 6 percent of young African Americans, 10 percent of young Hispanics, 12 percent of young Asian Americans and 27 percent of young whites see Trump in a favorable light, ratings that suggest the celebrity businessman faces a staggering task this summer to win their backing in his bid for the White House.
RUSSIA, Dean. They have been the glue that hold his Trump organization since the late 80s when a Russian Oligarch save his not so orange tutus by investing $900,000,000 to keep him from going bankrupt.
As investigators move in on his loan office at Deutsche Bank, his banker committed suicide.
Odd co-incidence? Jeffrey Epstein was scheduled for trial which would exposed Trump when he allegedly committed suicide.
Journalist Khosoggi was nearly the completion of a stinging article about Trump & Jared's financial ties to the Crown Prince, when he was butchered, tortured, recorded during the process and killed by a Saudi elite team, known now as, "The Saw Bone Squad."
I've been posting to my Blog for the last week or so... getting almost no reaction.
Now, that could be because no one is interested in what I post ( ). But it could also be because posts to Blogs don't show up in the "Newest Comments" and "Newest Discussions" pages. Blog posts appear briefly on the NT Home page, in "Latest Activity", but they quickly fall off and are lost forever.
So... if you have appreciated my posts in the past, please stop by at my Blog, and if you like what you see there you can:
1) Stop by from time to time...
2) Subscribe via RSS. RSS is a really, really REALLY good way to get your news. YOUR news, whatever YOU want to get. I've posted a tutorial .
Mrs. Clinton's apparent laxness with her e-mails is something people can consider when they decide who to vote for in the presidential elections.
Beyond that, there isn't a lot to say until we get actual information from the investigators, and not just the right wing hoo ha currently making the rounds.
"Conservatives" have been proving for 20 years that they are irrational concerning Hillary Clinton, they don't need to continue proving it every day.
The Supreme Court has held that the government can ban political speech only when it poses an immediate threat to public safety.
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I t has become increasingly clear that terrorist groups such as ISIS can extend their reach to American territory via the Internet. Using their own websites, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and other platforms, they lure young men and women to their mission—without having to risk the capture of foreign agents on U.S. soil. The Americans ensnared in ISIS’s net in turn radicalize others, send money to ISIS, and even carry out attacks .
Never before in our history have enemies outside the United States been able to propagate genuinely dangerous ideas on American territory in such an effective way—and by this I mean ideas that lead directly to terrorist attacks that kill people. The novelty of this threat calls for new thinking about limits on freedom of speech.
What can we do? Proposals that Internet companies “shut down” dangerous communications have been met with howls of laughter from Silicon Valley. It’s easy for determined jihadis to replace shuttered websites with new ones and hard for Internet companies to keep track of billions of communications. Using the law to force Facebook and Twitter to do more to block ISIS propaganda would make sense but also falls short of what is needed. No approach is perfect, but there is a way to deal with these problems.
Consider Ali Amin, the subject of a recent article in the New York Times . Lonely and bored, the 17-year-old Virginia resident discovered ISIS online, was gradually drawn into its messianic world, eventually exchanged messages with other supporters and members, and then provided some modest logistical support to ISIS supporters (instructing them how to transfer funds secretly and driving an ISIS recruit to the airport). He was convicted of the crime of material support of terrorism and sentenced to 11 years in prison. Amin did not start out as a jihadi; he was made into one.
Researchers at George Washington University identified 300 U.S-based ISIS sympathizers who use Twitter and other social media to lure Muslim Americans into the arms of ISIS. These American citizens and residents—themselves the fruit of the recruiting efforts of foreign ISIS members as well as of other Americans—frequently use a graduated approach so as to avoid alarming people who are merely curious about Islam:
In one case the seemingly naïve individual posted general questions about religion, to which ISIS supporters quickly responded in a calm and authoritative manner. After a few weeks, the accounts of hardened ISIS supporters slowly introduced increasingly ardent views into the conversation. The new recruit was then invited to continue [conversing] privately, often via Twitter’s Direct Message feature or on other private messaging platforms such as surespot.
But there is something we can do to protect people like Amin from being infected by the ISIS virus by propagandists, many of whom are anonymous and most of whom live in foreign countries. Consider a law that makes it a crime to access websites that glorify, express support for, or provide encouragement for ISIS or support recruitment by ISIS; to distribute links to those websites or videos, images, or text taken from those websites; or to encourage people to access such websites by supplying them with links or instructions. Such a law would be directed at people like Amin: naïve people, rather than sophisticated terrorists, who are initially driven by curiosity to research ISIS on the Web.
The law would provide graduated penalties. After the first violation, a person would receive a warning letter from the government; subsequent violations would result in fines or prison sentences. The idea would be to get out the word that looking at ISIS-related websites, like looking at websites that display child pornography, is strictly forbidden. As word spread, people like Amin would be discouraged from searching for ISIS-related websites and perhaps be spared radicalization and draconian punishment for more serious terrorism-related crimes.
The law would not deter sophisticated terrorists who send one another encrypted messages. That’s not its point. ISIS seeks to recruit Americans on American soil; in order to recruit from the public, it obviously cannot act secretly. It must instead broadcast widely and rely on surrogates to broadcast widely, in order to reach an audience of nonradicalized Muslims. This is a vulnerability. When people discover ISIS websites and circulate them by Twitter, Facebook, and other public websites, those people often disclose their identities. Many are too naïve to use pseudonyms; others reveal their identities to their ISPs, which can be forced to cough them up to police. Teenagers who are curious about ISIS but not yet committed to it are unlikely to use complicated encryption technologies to mask their identities from ISPs. Laws directed at this behavior would make a dent in recruitment, and hence in homegrown radicalism, even if they do not solve other problems.
FBI chief: San Bernardino shooters did not publicly promote jihad on social media
San Bernardino shooters
Syed Rizwan Farook, left, and a photo of Tashfeen Malik.
(FBI)
Syed Rizwan Farook and his wife Tashfeen Malik did not make open posts on social media regarding radical Islamic jihad or martyrdom before the Dec. 2 terror attack in San Bernardino, FBI Director James B. Comey said Wednesday, attempting to knock down criticism that U.S. officials had missed the growing radicalism of the couple and could have prevented her from moving to the U.S. last year.
Speaking in New York, Comey also revealed for the first time that the shooting deaths last July of five people after attacks on two military installations in Chattanooga, Tenn., have now officially been classified as a terrorist attack. The assailant in that attack, Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, a naturalized U.S. citizen living in Hixson, Tenn., was killed by police gunfire after he shot and killed four Marines and a sailor and wounded three other people.
“In Chattanooga we’ve concluded the killer was inspired by a foreign terror group’s propaganda,” Comey said. “It’s often difficult, as it is with San Bernardino, to untangle what particular sources’ competing foreign terror poison is out there. But there’s no doubt the Chattanooga killer was inspired and motivated by foreign terrorist propaganda.”
The classification of the Tennessee attack as a terrorist incident brings to three the number of such assaults in the U.S. this year, starting with an attempted attack in Garland, Texas, in May. In that assault, a security officer was wounded, and the two assailants, radicalized individuals from Phoenix, were shot dead.
In the San Bernardino case, Comey said, some news reports about Farook and Malik’s social media use had been a “garble.” He emphasized the distinction between postings on social media and private messages using social media platforms.
“We can see from our investigation that in late 2013 — before there is a physical meeting of these two people, resulting in their engagement and journey to the United States — they are communicating online, showing signs in that communication their joint commitment to jihad and to martyrdom. Those communications are direct private messages,” he said.
“So far in this investigation we have found no evidence of the posting on social media by either of them at that period of time and thereafter reflecting their commitment to jihad or to martyrdom. I’ve seen some reporting on that. That’s a garble. All right?
“The investigation continues, but we have not found that kind of thing. These communications are private, direct messages, not social media messages,” he added.
An article Tuesday in the Los Angeles Times was consistent with Comey’s characterization. The article reported that federal law enforcement officials had said that Malik had sent at least “two private messages” on Facebook to a small group of Pakistani friends in 2012 and 2014 pledging support for jihad.
Those private messages were sent before she entered the U.S. on a K-1 fiancee visa in July 2014. One of the officials characterized the messages as “her private communications ... to a small group of her friends” that “went only to a small group.”
In an article Sunday, the New York Times reported that Malik had “talked openly on social media about her views on violent jihad.”
The two articles prompted critics of the Obama administration to say that officials had not done enough to catch potential terrorists and safeguard the U.S.
Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas echoed those complaints during the Republican presidential debate Tuesday night in Las Vegas.
Last week in testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Comey revealed that the couple had posted a message on social media on the day of the shootings pledging allegiance to the Islamic State , before they were killed in a police shootout in San Bernardino. Afterward, Islamic State leaders praised the couple as “martyrs” but did not claim any involvement in the plot.
Facebook has said it discovered the post after the shooting and took it down after notifying the FBI.
The attacks in San Bernardino and Chattanooga both "involved people consuming poison on the Internet" and becoming radicalized, Comey said. “But in San Bernardino, as I’ve said before, we see in the killers Malik and Farook two people who are radicalized before the emergence of ISIL [the Islamic State], and so untangling the motivation [and] which particular terrorist propaganda motivated them and in what way remains a challenge in these investigations. And our work is ongoing there.”
The FBI is continuing to investigate whether Farook and Malik also may have communicated with foreign terror groups through encrypted devices that would have prevented the FBI and other law enforcement and intelligence agencies from following their trail, as happened in the Garland case.
Comey and other law enforcement officials have long sought the ability to get around encryption and listen in on potential terror suspects after obtaining a court order. On Wednesday he called the issue of encryption a “collision” between public and Internet security and basic law enforcement tools.
“That,” he said, is something “we as a democracy must solve together.”
Comey said it was becoming increasingly difficult to track efforts by foreign terror groups to recruit people in this country or abroad intent on sponsoring or carrying out attacks in the U.S. or elsewhere.
“Your parents' Al Qaeda was a very different model than the threat we face today,” he said, noting that hundreds of investigations of potential terror plots were underway around the U.S. And he said that social media platforms like Twitter often were used to radicalize young adults.
“Twitter works as a way to sell books, as a way to promote movies,” he said, “and it works as a way to crowd-source terrorism -- to sell murder.”
I'm not sure there has been a minute since Trump entered the race in June that the national news media has not been kissing his ass. The next weekend, he was on the phone talking to This Week on ABC , Meet The Press on NBC, and Face The Nation on CBS. They all put him at the top of the show, even though, at the time Trump was not the frontrunner. Why did he merit instant appearances on all the Sunday news shows. Did Christie, Fiorina , Paul etc merit this fawning attention when they entered the race ? Of course not.
Trump was , at the time , a national celebrity, a household name, and that is all that mattered. They expected some ratings jump by having him on, and that is why he was given undue consideration. And it has never stopped. Til this minute, the cable news channels show extended segments of Trumps rallies live, sometimes up to a half hour or 45 minute bloc, giving him free campaign advertising. How in the world do they morally or ethically justify this ? I guess the answer is they don't have to.
The "Tyndall Report" has tracked all the coverage of all the candidates to date on the network nightly news programs. Trump has received more coverage than all the Democratic candidates combined, including Biden , and 23 times as much coverage as Bernie Sanders. For much of the election season sanders has had as much support in terms of number of people choosing him in polling as trump has had, yet is virtually ignored in the media. Why? He is not a ratings magnet.
Chris Matthews was talking about Trump tonight, he says he "fights" with his audience because some of them question all the wall to wall advertising for trump. Matthews says he gives Trump the coverage because his opponents can't take him down.
How can they take him down when US national media is giving him free ads every night and keeping him in front of everyone who watches cable and network news regularly ?
It's a scandal but won't be treated like one because people are sheep.
9 Republicans debate one issue, and no winner emerges
Jonathan Bernstein
In a new wrinkle on CNN on Tuesday, Republicans in Las Vegas were asked to debate basically one issue — terrorism. If you were hoping to see candidates well versed in foreign policy and national security, the results were ... not encouraging. There was a little substance, along with a whole lot of mush.
But for now, the horse race.
It's been a while since the candidates last met (Nov. 10), and the nomination contest has sorted itself out quite a bit. Donald Trump is still the polling leader. Ted Cruz is now first in Iowa polls and second nationally, and appears well on his way to consolidating support from party actors who are social conservatives and perhaps all of those who are most conservative. Marco Rubio is third in the polls, but is the only real coalition-style candidate in the race, and as such is picking up support from elected officials and other party actors.
So the first question is: Did this debate allow any of the others to break through? Jeb Bush tried by taking on Trump, and Bush will probably get a fair amount of publicity from that. They butted heads over at least two extended periods, and this time Bush wasn't a clear loser. Which doesn't mean it will help in the polls. He's improving, but he's still not especially good at these things, and doesn't quite seem to know who his intended audience might be. He has not yet adapted to a world in which Republicans don't simply default to the nearest Bush.
As for the rest, maybe Chris Christie was able to sustain a bit of momentum in New Hampshire. If there was a sound bite that either conservative media or the "neutral" press will run with, I didn't notice it — from him or any of the others, in the main event or the kiddie table debate. If anyone is poised to surge, it won't be this debate that started it.
Trump was mostly subdued this time, and as always he disappeared when real policy questions were on the table. His interest is really engaged only when the conversation turns to him. Among other things, Trump's answer to a question late in the debate made it clear he knows nothing about the U.S. nuclear weapons arsenal, which in bygone years would have been a major gaffe by a presidential candidate.
Cruz is quick on his feet and knows how to speak to a conservative audience. For his first debate as a potential target, he did fine. However, if Rubio wants to set up a dividing line to portray Cruz as a "dove" (or isolationist) alongside Rand Paul, the evening couldn't have worked out better. During the matinee debate, Lindsey Graham constantly lumped Paul and Cruz together, and in prime time Paul repeatedly jumped in to take Cruz's side. If Rubio is correct about where the Republican Party is, he's going to pick up a lot of support from Republican foreign policy professionals.
Rubio did nothing to spark any progress in the polls, but also nothing to scare party actors away from continuing their slow march toward him. In previous contests, it's been a good bet that where the bulk of the party actors are, the voters will eventually follow. Rubio also, for whatever it's worth, does actually demonstrate knowledge about foreign policy and national security (or at least substantive talking points). Whether the policies he advocates are good ideas or not, he doesn't settle for repeating that the U.S. strategy should be "winning," and he doesn't pretend that saying a few magic words will defeat Islamic State.
That is not the case. I wanted to clear all the old comments off and start over but the system will not allow it so it left remnants of old comments. Don't know why we can't remove material off our own pages maybe Perrie can answer that.
Your fake news induced hysteria isnt impressing anyone. Despite your new found slavish loyalty to Trump , he wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire.
LOL . You don't have any authority to give anyone a "Skirting the COC" ticket. What's with all the far right tactics BF ?
1. John Adams and Martin VanBuren.
2. Thomas Jefferson owned appx 600 slaves during his lifetime.
3. Franklin fathered one illegitimate child for sure, rumors were up to ten additional.
4. True. There is no right to vote in the Constitution. The Founders wanted to restrict the vote to white men with property.
5. Washington bought their teeth from slaves on occasion, to be used in the creation of false teeth for himself. He paid them much less than the going rate though.
You don't get it. You are enabling people that would destroy this country in their idolatry of the worst president in US history. This is an emergency, not the time to make sure you are "fair" in your analysis of Biden's gaffes.
I seeded a video where people recite 113 reasons Trump needs to be defeated. There is hardly an exaggeration in there, and the weight of the evidence is overwhelming that Trump must be removed. Its overwhelming. Your efforts on this forum are usually to latch on to Bidens gaffes and thus set it up as a "choice" the voters need to make. As I just said in a comment on another seed, there is no "choice" in this election unless there is something wrong with you the voter.
The election is in a few weeks. There is no choice, Biden is perfectly fit for office and Trump is not remotely fit. I dont care if Biden mangles some numbers he is reading . It is insignificant. There is more than enough evidence from other interviews that his mind is fine. Trumps mind is completely corrupt. Completely , and he is mentally ill. There is no reasonable "choice" in this election and you should stop acting as if there is.
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It is more than just the GOP establishment that is responsible for this atrocious and malicious presidency. Everyone who voted for Trump in 2016 and hasnt lamented it by now is responsible too.
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It is more than just the GOP establishment that is responsible for this atrocious and malicious presidency. [deleted]
I have NEVER seen you get so worked up on this forum over the hundreds of disgusting things Donald Trump has said or done over the past 5 years. Now you burst out in outrage over Pelosi getting a hair cut. LOL.
Jesus Christ stop whining.
No one in their right mind would praise Donald Trump, and she is in her right mind.
Perrie is neither a liberal or a Democrat. I have been discussing this on and off with her for years, and she doesnt give an inch.
Just because someone has a enough sense to know that Trump is a god damn fool doesnt make them AOC or antifa.
That sentence was deleted out of my comment.
Vic, I gave you every chance , but you have gone too far. I'm not commenting on your articles any more. If I want to see this sort of censorship I will go back in time to the 1930's Soviet Union or Germany.
Enough is enough. How did you get so fucking dumb?
Gateway Pundit is probably the most disgraced "news" site this side of Infowars, and Epoch Times is a ridiculous conspiracy nut haven.
Leave our god damn country alone and go back to Corn Hole Nebraska or wherever you came from.
Gateway Pundit has been caught lying more times than anyone can count.
This is what is wrong with Newstalkers. Moronic posts like this one by MAGA are given the same credence by NT as every other post.
Comments like that are borderline racism. Your comment, almost directly, implies that blacks who won't forget slavery have been playing the victim since the Civil War ended and they never had things worse than anyone else anyway.
You should rethink what you are saying.
ABOUT DAVE KING
These are the qualifications of the author of this seed
In other words, he is no better or well informed than any member of Newstalkers. Probably worse. Why doesnt the seeder write his own rant about the world and post that as an article instead of inflicting this idiocy written by a "retired retail worker."
Nothing wrong with that at all, but then we would know that the seeded article is just a rant someone made on a website other than Newstalkers. Anyone can write for the source site. I could pretend to be a conservative half wit and I could get an article posted on that site. So could anyone. Why is it worthy of being a seed on our site?
HA, write your own stuff once in a while.
This idiotic meme got 12 up votes.
I rest my case on how lame all this is from the right.
It's sad for NT. Half of you people should leave because you have absolutely nothing of worth to say.
This seed is a good example of the sad state NT is in.
https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/48918/looney-tune-left-schiff-hits-the-fan#c1218925
I said I didnt watch the cartoon so I will have to take your word that it was funny.
The responses by members of this forum are so lame ass I cant scroll by them fast enough.
Lame ass responses like this also pretty much sum up the defense of Trump.
Nonsense, trivia, misinformation. Thats all you guys have.
It is so prevalent here it is not even worth opening most of these seeds anymore.
https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/48918/looney-tune-left-schiff-hits-the-fan#cm1218925
My comment about "white grievance" has nothing to do with the murders in New Jersey, it has to do with white people who are outraged that the media didnt immediately identify the killers as non white.
Or they are outraged that a member of Congress assumed the killers were white.
Talib's mistake is something of a stain on her character, I would say. It is not a signal for white people on an internet forum to lash out stupidly about race. I have seen all of this before, and I know exactly what "white grievance" is about. And I know how it expresses itself.
Let's take a poll of the responders to this seed. How many of them think there is more black on white racism in America than white on non white?
Come on all of you MAGA's, dont be shy, raise your hands.
Your type of comments are what get me in trouble with perrie. They are ridiculous, and when I say so I get deleted or eventually suspended. If I were you I wouldnt go around bragging that Trump's 10,000 lies dont effect people personally, so who cares? It's absurd man.
If Trump lies about a program he wants canceled and it gets canceled and people who depend on that program get negatively effected.
I was just reading this morning that no refugees were being allowed into America last month because of something Trump did. I would bet substantially that Trump lied about something involved in that happening.
He has lied publicly thousands of times. People dont have top pick through them and extract the ones that may have effected their lives specifically to know it is wrong and makes him unfit to be president of the United States, you just have to have a sense of decency.
Trump lied about Obama's birth certificate. That effected Obama's reputation. Trump is currently lying about the 2016 DNC server being in Ukraine. He lied about his taxes.
In fact, if Trump didnt lie so much he's probably be in prison now. And that effects everyone.
And, please, nothing you say goes over my head. If I were you I'd be embarrassed that
because the question is ridiculous.
When I first heard this, I assumed, I think rightly, that this name change was similar to what China did when they changed Peking to Beijing. If Ukrainians want it to be so then it is so.
What is really interesting on this seed is the laughably lame attempt to "blame" "left" diplomats for the change. From the seeded article
The government of Ukraine authorizes and promotes the new spelling and pronunciation. So what do right wingers on NT do? They try and mock the new pronunciation and spelling as "leftist"
There is no end to their bamboozling, although I think they are mainly bamboozling themselves.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1192186018696482825
Report: Trump asked for "my favorite dictator"
Searching a room for Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi at last month's G7 summit in France, the WSJ reports , President Trump called out: “Where’s my favorite dictator?”
Why it matters: Sisi really is a dictator, and he really is closely allied with the Trump administration. Trump is untroubled by the idea of partnering with authoritarians, but his remark was "met by a stunned silence" according to the WSJ, which notes it's unclear if Sisi was in the room to hear it. When the two leaders met moments later, Trump praised Sisi as a "very tough man" who had "done a fantastic job."
https://www.axios.com/trump-egypt-el-sisi-favorite-dictator-7d7323ea-2771-48cb-b5f0-0f682b8c2ded.html
Heading to HELL and not going back no more, no more.
Sadly, these are not the typical Trump Riff-Raff from his obnoxious HATE FEST.
Telling the truth about Donald Trump is not smearing him. You are a good example of why I have had to fight with the moderators about commenting on Trump supporters.
We have this person who is completely unfit to be president of the United States, yet we have to fight every day, over the same ground day after day, all because of trump supporters. THEY are the issue in this country right now.
Trump's election in 2016 depended on a willful suspension of disbelief by a mass of voters. I dont think that ever happened in a national election in America's history prior to that election.
The moderators on this site have pretty regularly censored me for saying unflattering things about Trump supporters (some). But I havent done that for no or for an insufficient reason. Quite to the contrary. Without supporters who were willing to suspend their disbelief for his benefit, a disgraceful buffoon like Trump wouldnt have gotten past the first Republican debate in 2015. ALL of it is on his supporters.
Trump's one chance of being re-elected is if he is normalized. This normalization has teetered and tottered over the past four years. So far, I think, when he gets real close to it he does something really stupid or offensive and his 'normality' goes up in flames. But his true blue followers are always there to try again to make all this seem normal. That is their legacy from this era, and it is not a pretty one.
Going by this seed and the comments, all we can say is that Trumpsters are proud and happy that their president shames and embarrasses the country every day.
Someone has a burr up their "tukas".
I second that!
People who have the opinion that Trump is an honest, decent person are fools.
If the Republican Party renominates Trump for the presidency they have no honor.
You give me a coc violation for what? For telling them the truth?
If they can defend Trump on these assertions, then let's hear it from them. Otherwise, enough with the skirting violations.
Trump is a fraud, a con man, a perpetual liar, a crook, an ignoramus, and a buffoon. Those are not guesses. Those are the reality of the situation.
They try and defend Trump by either attacking me or making preposterous comparisons between Trump and Obama or Clinton. It is nothing but gaslighting and bamboozling.
Almost every comment on this seed contains a sweeping generalization, at least by the standards that are used here to remove comments as such.
The "sweeping generalization" reason for censorship should be ended. It allows uneven and inherently unfair censorship based on the dubious use of "flagging". It also encourages more visible activity by the moderators.
Censorshit sux!
There is a rabid TRUMP defender here, that doubles as a "Moderator". He cruises anti-Rump post and pull out his "Sweeping generalization", rule, then makes "sweeping generation" about the person who posted the Anti-Trump comment.
I, too, believe that people have a Constitutional Right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH. It is extremely distressing to me, that this pro-Trump "bot" explosion by a paid moderator is unacceptable.
I really like the new avatar....
What's going on with not commenting though?
Are you upset?
It is very difficult to comment when overbearing moderators have a free reign at chastising authors, posters, article content that disagrees with the "moderator's" personal political views.
Hey JR, how you been?
Long time no see man. Don't be a stranger. New blood in the forum maybe.
Congratulations, John! What a game!
Why do you care about his penis size?
The top left was The Exorcist , the top right was Rain Man
the next one down was Gone With The Wind
the next was Gladiator
the last was Avatar
Rainman
Gone With the Wind
Avatar
I can only identify Avatar, the bottom all-gray one.
The exorcist
Gone with the Wind
Rainman
Avatar
I can't figure out the final one. Maybe the matrix?
put answers to movie quiz on this page
Sen. Tim Scott , the lone black Republican in the Senate, followed up his emotional floor speech revealing that he had been targeted several times by police because of his skin color by calling for the country to have "tough, painful conversations" about race.
Lone black GOP senator says country must have 'tough, painful' talk about race
Kids And Trump
Poll: Most young people dislike GOP's Trump, say he's racist
NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump is wildly unpopular among young adults, in particular young people of color, and nearly two-thirds of Americans between the ages of 18 and 30 believe the presumptive Republican nominee is racist.
A mere 6 percent of young African Americans, 10 percent of young Hispanics, 12 percent of young Asian Americans and 27 percent of young whites see Trump in a favorable light, ratings that suggest the celebrity businessman faces a staggering task this summer to win their backing in his bid for the White House.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f075ace3ed4c4387bd53ca6c8d7bc8b7/poll-most-young-people-dislike-gops-trump-say-hes-racist
Didn't keep him from winning so it really doesn't mean shit does it?
RUSSIA, Dean. They have been the glue that hold his Trump organization since the late 80s when a Russian Oligarch save his not so orange tutus by investing $900,000,000 to keep him from going bankrupt.
As investigators move in on his loan office at Deutsche Bank, his banker committed suicide.
Odd co-incidence? Jeffrey Epstein was scheduled for trial which would exposed Trump when he allegedly committed suicide.
Journalist Khosoggi was nearly the completion of a stinging article about Trump & Jared's financial ties to the Crown Prince, when he was butchered, tortured, recorded during the process and killed by a Saudi elite team, known now as, "The Saw Bone Squad."
Trump is not who you think he is.
The WH is no place for a CAREER CRIMINAL psychopath. He would be better served in Riker's.
Hi,
I've been posting to my Blog for the last week or so... getting almost no reaction.
Now, that could be because no one is interested in what I post (
). But it could also be because posts to Blogs don't show up in the "Newest Comments" and "Newest Discussions" pages. Blog posts appear briefly on the NT Home page, in "Latest Activity", but they quickly fall off and are lost forever.
So... if you have appreciated my posts in the past, please stop by at my Blog, and if you like what you see there you can:
1) Stop by from time to time...
2) Subscribe via RSS. RSS is a really, really REALLY good way to get your news. YOUR news, whatever YOU want to get. I've posted a tutorial .
Thanks,
Bob
Man's obituary asks mourners not to vote for Donald Trump http:// huff.to/1Vb5QJI
Mrs. Clinton's apparent laxness with her e-mails is something people can consider when they decide who to vote for in the presidential elections.
Beyond that, there isn't a lot to say until we get actual information from the investigators, and not just the right wing hoo ha currently making the rounds.
"Conservatives" have been proving for 20 years that they are irrational concerning Hillary Clinton, they don't need to continue proving it every day.
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ISIS Gives Us No Choice but to Consider Limits on Speech
America faces unprecedented danger from the group’s online radicalization tactics.
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I t has become increasingly clear that terrorist groups such as ISIS can extend their reach to American territory via the Internet. Using their own websites, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and other platforms, they lure young men and women to their mission—without having to risk the capture of foreign agents on U.S. soil. The Americans ensnared in ISIS’s net in turn radicalize others, send money to ISIS, and even carry out attacks .
Never before in our history have enemies outside the United States been able to propagate genuinely dangerous ideas on American territory in such an effective way—and by this I mean ideas that lead directly to terrorist attacks that kill people. The novelty of this threat calls for new thinking about limits on freedom of speech.
What can we do? Proposals that Internet companies “shut down” dangerous communications have been met with howls of laughter from Silicon Valley. It’s easy for determined jihadis to replace shuttered websites with new ones and hard for Internet companies to keep track of billions of communications. Using the law to force Facebook and Twitter to do more to block ISIS propaganda would make sense but also falls short of what is needed. No approach is perfect, but there is a way to deal with these problems.
Consider Ali Amin, the subject of a recent article in the New York Times . Lonely and bored, the 17-year-old Virginia resident discovered ISIS online, was gradually drawn into its messianic world, eventually exchanged messages with other supporters and members, and then provided some modest logistical support to ISIS supporters (instructing them how to transfer funds secretly and driving an ISIS recruit to the airport). He was convicted of the crime of material support of terrorism and sentenced to 11 years in prison. Amin did not start out as a jihadi; he was made into one.
Researchers at George Washington University identified 300 U.S-based ISIS sympathizers who use Twitter and other social media to lure Muslim Americans into the arms of ISIS. These American citizens and residents—themselves the fruit of the recruiting efforts of foreign ISIS members as well as of other Americans—frequently use a graduated approach so as to avoid alarming people who are merely curious about Islam:
But there is something we can do to protect people like Amin from being infected by the ISIS virus by propagandists, many of whom are anonymous and most of whom live in foreign countries. Consider a law that makes it a crime to access websites that glorify, express support for, or provide encouragement for ISIS or support recruitment by ISIS; to distribute links to those websites or videos, images, or text taken from those websites; or to encourage people to access such websites by supplying them with links or instructions. Such a law would be directed at people like Amin: naïve people, rather than sophisticated terrorists, who are initially driven by curiosity to research ISIS on the Web.
The law would provide graduated penalties. After the first violation, a person would receive a warning letter from the government; subsequent violations would result in fines or prison sentences. The idea would be to get out the word that looking at ISIS-related websites, like looking at websites that display child pornography, is strictly forbidden. As word spread, people like Amin would be discouraged from searching for ISIS-related websites and perhaps be spared radicalization and draconian punishment for more serious terrorism-related crimes.
The law would not deter sophisticated terrorists who send one another encrypted messages. That’s not its point. ISIS seeks to recruit Americans on American soil; in order to recruit from the public, it obviously cannot act secretly. It must instead broadcast widely and rely on surrogates to broadcast widely, in order to reach an audience of nonradicalized Muslims. This is a vulnerability. When people discover ISIS websites and circulate them by Twitter, Facebook, and other public websites, those people often disclose their identities. Many are too naïve to use pseudonyms; others reveal their identities to their ISPs, which can be forced to cough them up to police. Teenagers who are curious about ISIS but not yet committed to it are unlikely to use complicated encryption technologies to mask their identities from ISPs. Laws directed at this behavior would make a dent in recruitment, and hence in homegrown radicalism, even if they do not solve other problems.
FBI chief: San Bernardino shooters did not publicly promote jihad on social media
Syed Rizwan Farook, left, and a photo of Tashfeen Malik.
(FBI)Syed Rizwan Farook and his wife Tashfeen Malik did not make open posts on social media regarding radical Islamic jihad or martyrdom before the Dec. 2 terror attack in San Bernardino, FBI Director James B. Comey said Wednesday, attempting to knock down criticism that U.S. officials had missed the growing radicalism of the couple and could have prevented her from moving to the U.S. last year.
Speaking in New York, Comey also revealed for the first time that the shooting deaths last July of five people after attacks on two military installations in Chattanooga, Tenn., have now officially been classified as a terrorist attack. The assailant in that attack, Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, a naturalized U.S. citizen living in Hixson, Tenn., was killed by police gunfire after he shot and killed four Marines and a sailor and wounded three other people.
“In Chattanooga we’ve concluded the killer was inspired by a foreign terror group’s propaganda,” Comey said. “It’s often difficult, as it is with San Bernardino, to untangle what particular sources’ competing foreign terror poison is out there. But there’s no doubt the Chattanooga killer was inspired and motivated by foreign terrorist propaganda.”
The classification of the Tennessee attack as a terrorist incident brings to three the number of such assaults in the U.S. this year, starting with an attempted attack in Garland, Texas, in May. In that assault, a security officer was wounded, and the two assailants, radicalized individuals from Phoenix, were shot dead.
In the San Bernardino case, Comey said, some news reports about Farook and Malik’s social media use had been a “garble.” He emphasized the distinction between postings on social media and private messages using social media platforms.
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“We can see from our investigation that in late 2013 — before there is a physical meeting of these two people, resulting in their engagement and journey to the United States — they are communicating online, showing signs in that communication their joint commitment to jihad and to martyrdom. Those communications are direct private messages,” he said.
“So far in this investigation we have found no evidence of the posting on social media by either of them at that period of time and thereafter reflecting their commitment to jihad or to martyrdom. I’ve seen some reporting on that. That’s a garble. All right?
“The investigation continues, but we have not found that kind of thing. These communications are private, direct messages, not social media messages,” he added.
An article Tuesday in the Los Angeles Times was consistent with Comey’s characterization. The article reported that federal law enforcement officials had said that Malik had sent at least “two private messages” on Facebook to a small group of Pakistani friends in 2012 and 2014 pledging support for jihad.
NEWSLETTER: Get the day's top headlines from Times Editor Davan Maharaj >>
Those private messages were sent before she entered the U.S. on a K-1 fiancee visa in July 2014. One of the officials characterized the messages as “her private communications ... to a small group of her friends” that “went only to a small group.”
In an article Sunday, the New York Times reported that Malik had “talked openly on social media about her views on violent jihad.”
The two articles prompted critics of the Obama administration to say that officials had not done enough to catch potential terrorists and safeguard the U.S.
Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas echoed those complaints during the Republican presidential debate Tuesday night in Las Vegas.
Last week in testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Comey revealed that the couple had posted a message on social media on the day of the shootings pledging allegiance to the Islamic State , before they were killed in a police shootout in San Bernardino. Afterward, Islamic State leaders praised the couple as “martyrs” but did not claim any involvement in the plot.
Facebook has said it discovered the post after the shooting and took it down after notifying the FBI.
The attacks in San Bernardino and Chattanooga both "involved people consuming poison on the Internet" and becoming radicalized, Comey said. “But in San Bernardino, as I’ve said before, we see in the killers Malik and Farook two people who are radicalized before the emergence of ISIL [the Islamic State], and so untangling the motivation [and] which particular terrorist propaganda motivated them and in what way remains a challenge in these investigations. And our work is ongoing there.”
The FBI is continuing to investigate whether Farook and Malik also may have communicated with foreign terror groups through encrypted devices that would have prevented the FBI and other law enforcement and intelligence agencies from following their trail, as happened in the Garland case.
Comey and other law enforcement officials have long sought the ability to get around encryption and listen in on potential terror suspects after obtaining a court order. On Wednesday he called the issue of encryption a “collision” between public and Internet security and basic law enforcement tools.
“That,” he said, is something “we as a democracy must solve together.”
Comey said it was becoming increasingly difficult to track efforts by foreign terror groups to recruit people in this country or abroad intent on sponsoring or carrying out attacks in the U.S. or elsewhere.
“Your parents' Al Qaeda was a very different model than the threat we face today,” he said, noting that hundreds of investigations of potential terror plots were underway around the U.S. And he said that social media platforms like Twitter often were used to radicalize young adults.
“Twitter works as a way to sell books, as a way to promote movies,” he said, “and it works as a way to crowd-source terrorism -- to sell murder.”
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-ln-fbi-san-bernardino-social-media-20151216-story.html
National Scandal - The Media Is Addicted To Donald Trump
By: JohnRussell
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Item - Trump Receives 23 Times More TV Coverage Than Bernie Sanders
Item - "Liberal" News Channel MSNBC Shows Entire Trump Rallies Live
I'm not sure there has been a minute since Trump entered the race in June that the national news media has not been kissing his ass. The next weekend, he was on the phone talking to This Week on ABC , Meet The Press on NBC, and Face The Nation on CBS. They all put him at the top of the show, even though, at the time Trump was not the frontrunner. Why did he merit instant appearances on all the Sunday news shows. Did Christie, Fiorina , Paul etc merit this fawning attention when they entered the race ? Of course not.
Trump was , at the time , a national celebrity, a household name, and that is all that mattered. They expected some ratings jump by having him on, and that is why he was given undue consideration. And it has never stopped. Til this minute, the cable news channels show extended segments of Trumps rallies live, sometimes up to a half hour or 45 minute bloc, giving him free campaign advertising. How in the world do they morally or ethically justify this ? I guess the answer is they don't have to.
The "Tyndall Report" has tracked all the coverage of all the candidates to date on the network nightly news programs. Trump has received more coverage than all the Democratic candidates combined, including Biden , and 23 times as much coverage as Bernie Sanders. For much of the election season sanders has had as much support in terms of number of people choosing him in polling as trump has had, yet is virtually ignored in the media. Why? He is not a ratings magnet.
Chris Matthews was talking about Trump tonight, he says he "fights" with his audience because some of them question all the wall to wall advertising for trump. Matthews says he gives Trump the coverage because his opponents can't take him down.
How can they take him down when US national media is giving him free ads every night and keeping him in front of everyone who watches cable and network news regularly ?
It's a scandal but won't be treated like one because people are sheep.
9 Republicans debate one issue, and no winner emerges
In a new wrinkle on CNN on Tuesday, Republicans in Las Vegas were asked to debate basically one issue — terrorism. If you were hoping to see candidates well versed in foreign policy and national security, the results were ... not encouraging. There was a little substance, along with a whole lot of mush.
But for now, the horse race.
It's been a while since the candidates last met (Nov. 10), and the nomination contest has sorted itself out quite a bit. Donald Trump is still the polling leader. Ted Cruz is now first in Iowa polls and second nationally, and appears well on his way to consolidating support from party actors who are social conservatives and perhaps all of those who are most conservative. Marco Rubio is third in the polls, but is the only real coalition-style candidate in the race, and as such is picking up support from elected officials and other party actors.
So the first question is: Did this debate allow any of the others to break through? Jeb Bush tried by taking on Trump, and Bush will probably get a fair amount of publicity from that. They butted heads over at least two extended periods, and this time Bush wasn't a clear loser. Which doesn't mean it will help in the polls. He's improving, but he's still not especially good at these things, and doesn't quite seem to know who his intended audience might be. He has not yet adapted to a world in which Republicans don't simply default to the nearest Bush.
As for the rest, maybe Chris Christie was able to sustain a bit of momentum in New Hampshire. If there was a sound bite that either conservative media or the "neutral" press will run with, I didn't notice it — from him or any of the others, in the main event or the kiddie table debate. If anyone is poised to surge, it won't be this debate that started it.
Trump was mostly subdued this time, and as always he disappeared when real policy questions were on the table. His interest is really engaged only when the conversation turns to him. Among other things, Trump's answer to a question late in the debate made it clear he knows nothing about the U.S. nuclear weapons arsenal, which in bygone years would have been a major gaffe by a presidential candidate.
Cruz is quick on his feet and knows how to speak to a conservative audience. For his first debate as a potential target, he did fine. However, if Rubio wants to set up a dividing line to portray Cruz as a "dove" (or isolationist) alongside Rand Paul, the evening couldn't have worked out better. During the matinee debate, Lindsey Graham constantly lumped Paul and Cruz together, and in prime time Paul repeatedly jumped in to take Cruz's side. If Rubio is correct about where the Republican Party is, he's going to pick up a lot of support from Republican foreign policy professionals.
Rubio did nothing to spark any progress in the polls, but also nothing to scare party actors away from continuing their slow march toward him. In previous contests, it's been a good bet that where the bulk of the party actors are, the voters will eventually follow. Rubio also, for whatever it's worth, does actually demonstrate knowledge about foreign policy and national security (or at least substantive talking points). Whether the policies he advocates are good ideas or not, he doesn't settle for repeating that the U.S. strategy should be "winning," and he doesn't pretend that saying a few magic words will defeat Islamic State.
As for Wolf Blitzer and the other moderators: They did a good job of pushing for substance, and that's all we can ask.
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Jonathan Bernstein is a Bloomberg View columnist covering U.S. politics.
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You pose a good question.
Looks if you have any opinion your deleted. If that's the case why is it on NewsTalkers at all?
That is not the case. I wanted to clear all the old comments off and start over but the system will not allow it so it left remnants of old comments. Don't know why we can't remove material off our own pages maybe Perrie can answer that.