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Major Development: Iran Sends Desperate Plea to Israel and US as Israeli Warplanes Circle Tehran

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  last year  •  42 comments

By:   Bryan Chai

Major Development: Iran Sends Desperate Plea to Israel and US as Israeli Warplanes Circle Tehran
"However, we can easily get a deal done between Iran and Israel, and end this bloody conflict!!!" It's that last olive branch extended by Trump that Tehran seems interested in. "Iran has been urgently signaling that it seeks an end to hostilities and resumption of talks over its nuclear programs, sending messages to Israel and the U.S. via Arab intermediaries," the Journal reported.

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It appears at least one side in the deadly Israel-Iran conflict is ready to tentatively wave the white flag.

And it's not the side   backed by the U.S.   -- though America's looming presence apparently had something to do with it.

In a stunning report from   The Wall Street Journal , it appears Tehran is ready to "de-escalate" tensions after Israel and Iran came into conflict late last week.

Of note, the specter of the United States' might has always been on the fringes of this Middle East conflict.

As President Donald Trump personally   noted   on Truth, any Iranian attack on America would be met with unequivocal force:


"The U.S. had nothing to do with the attack on Iran, tonight," Trump posted shortly after Israel launched the first volley. "If we are attacked in any way, shape or form by Iran, the full strength and might of the U.S. Armed Forces will come down on you at levels never seen before.


"However, we can easily get a deal done between Iran and Israel, and end this bloody conflict!!!"

It's that last olive branch extended by Trump that Tehran seems interested in.

"Iran has been urgently signaling that it seeks an end to hostilities and resumption of talks over its nuclear programs, sending messages to Israel and the U.S. via Arab intermediaries," the Journal reported.

Citing a "ferocious Israeli air campaign," Iranian leadership is apparently desperate to ensure that the United States won't join this offensive -- desperate enough to return to nuclear enrichment negotiations that Iran has   historically rebuffed .

Ominously, the Journal added that Israel isn't exactly compelled to return to the negotiating table.

"But with Israeli warplanes able to fly freely over the capital and Iranian counterattacks inflicting minimal damage, Israeli leaders have little incentive to halt their assault before doing more to destroy Iran’s nuclear sites and further weaken the theocratic government’s hold on power," the Journal reported.

Iran, which also reportedly sent private messages to Israel touting the importance of both sides keeping "violence contained," has certainly   inflicted some damage   on Israel, but this new report made it clear that the counter-offensive has not been commensurate.

That all being said, the Journal also speculated that this attempt at de-escalation could also be a shrewd tactic.

"Securing a pause could give Iran breathing room to regroup and for pressure to build internationally against Israel’s campaign," the outlet stated. "It would also be a win for Tehran to keep the U.S. from bringing its bunker-busting military capabilities into the fight.

"Tehran appears to be betting that Israel can’t afford to get stuck in a war of attrition and would have to seek a diplomatic solution eventually, Arab diplomats who have spoken with the Iranians said. Iranian officials said they thought Israel lacked a clear exit strategy and would need U.S. help to do meaningful damage to targets such as the Fordow uranium-enrichment facility, which is buried under a mountain."

Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, it's also worth pointing out that Iran has given no indication that it actually plans to rein in its nuclear program, specifically with regards to   uranium enrichment .


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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    last year

Well played Israel, well played.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    last year

Hundreds of people are needlessly dead, and you think “well played.”

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tacos! @1.1    last year

Unfortunately, yes. Hundreds needlessly dead. However, if this puts an end to it, there will be no more at best, fewer at worst. It has to end, and Israel has shown its resolve to do so.

"War is hell"

Attributed to General William Tecumseh Sherman

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @1.1    last year

That was Iran's call. All they had to do was give up nukes.

They had 60 days.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Tacos! @1.1    last year

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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2  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year
Iran, which also reportedly sent private messages to Israel touting the importance of both sides keeping "violence contained,"

THAT is fkng hilarious given the terrorist activity linked to Iran.  

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
3  squiggy    last year

They've come to realize that once - sooner than later -  their air defenses have been obliterated, the party's over.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4  Right Down the Center    last year

Iran, which also reportedly sent private messages to Israel touting the importance of both sides keeping "violence contained," 

In other words please don't get bunker busters from the US.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    last year

We had a perfectly good deal with Iran, but Trump tore it up. That not only led to the crisis you have now, but it also makes it harder to broker any new deals with the US, since Trump could just tear that up too.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tacos! @5    last year

That deal was shit for everyone but Iran. Proof lies in the fact Iran took it. And you have to remember who the candy assed PotUS was at the time.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1    last year

‘it. And you have to remember who the candy assed PotUS was at the time.’

PINO

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1    last year
That deal was shit for everyone but Iran

How, exactly?

Proof lies in the fact Iran took it.

So did the UK, France, Germany, Russia and China. You can’t get those five countries plus the US to agree on the day of the week, but they agreed on this deal.

And you have to remember who the candy assed PotUS was at the time.

So if Obama was involved it must be bad? Is that the full depth and breadth of your knowledge and analysis?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.2    last year

They were developing a nuclear bomb, Tacos.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.3    last year

How do you know? Because Israel told you? 

Even Trump’s own advisors tried to get him to stay with the agreement. But once Trump tore it up, Iran had no reason not to build a bomb.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.4    last year

Tell us what you think the nuclear enrichment was for?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.5    last year

Nuclear power. The enrichment required for that is at a lower level than for weapons. But if you’re concerned about it, all you need to do is sign a treaty allowing for monitoring and inspectors. 

A thing we had, until Trump ripped it up and threw it in the trash. Then did nothing to replace it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.6    last year
A thing we had

A toothless thing we had under Obama & Biden, which led us to the mess the world is in.

It took Donald Trump to end this threat.

 
 
 
Thomas
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5.1.8  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.7    last year
A toothless thing we had under Obama & Biden, which led us to the mess the world is in.

We had a deal in which inspectors from the IAEA went in and verified that Iran was not enriching nuclear fuel. Trump got elected, and threw that agreement away. Iran went back to enriching nuclear fuel. That is it. That is what happened. 

As usually happens, the problems that Trump is fixing (jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif ) were largely caused by Trump. If he had left the agreement in place, Iran would have continued to NOT refine uranium. But President Trump is too stupid, as are most of his followers, to realize that. 

The damage that he is continuing to do to the sciences will be a weight on our society that will be difficult, if not impossible, to remove. 

Go ahead and glorify the fucking lunatic in chief who seems determined to destroy our country. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1.9  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.7    last year
which led us to the mess the world is in

How,exactly?

It took Donald Trump to end this threat

He created this crisis, and has done nothing to prevent or end it.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.1.10  Greg Jones  replied to  Thomas @5.1.8    last year
Iran went back to enriching nuclear fuel. That is it. That is what happened. 

They never stopped enriching nuclear fuel to weapons grade.  They don't that for power generation.

They systematically denied access to the inspectors; this is established fact!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.1.11  Greg Jones  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.9    last year

Pure, unadulterated bullshit.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.12  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.7    last year
A toothless thing we had under Obama & Biden, which led us to the mess the world is in.

More lies or just the misinformation known as alternative facts?

Did we ever find the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? No.

We are probably more likely to find a crude dirty nuke in Minnesota or Iowa than we might in Iran.

Here we are two days later opining on a scurrilous article written by a Questionable Source that's a 1/16th of an inch from being banned on this website.

The Western Journal

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  • Overall, we rate Western Journal Right Biased and Questionable based on story selection and editorial opinions that strongly favor the right and numerous failed fact checks.

Western Journal - Bias and Credibility - Media Bias/Fact Check

Well done. 

 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.13  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.12    last year

Where did the Western Journal come from?

The reason the Iran Deal under Obama was toothless is because inspectors were not allowed to go everywhere. Certain places were designated as off limits by Iran:

"The deal, President Obama told the nation, “is not built on trust, it is built on verification.”   Yet, one critical provision of the JCPOA puts unexpected limitations on inspectors’ access to certain facilities by requiring them to notify Iran first if they suspect a site might be being used for illicit nuclear activity and then undergoing a long process in order to gain entry to that site. This obstacle to inspections is worrying for several reasons:

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  Thomas @5.1.8    last year
he damage that he is continuing to do to the sciences will be a weight on our society that will be difficult, if not impossible, to remove. 

It's already happened because they don't know the difference between uranium used for fuel and that which is used for bombs

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.12    last year

Somebody didn't bother to click on the link to the seeded article. MSN should be ashamed of allowing this article on their website

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.16  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.15    last year

dick cheney facilitated the purchase of replacement parts by iran for their old french nuke reactor capable of producing weapons grade material. it was done thru a shell company of haliburton during the US embargo of iran.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.17  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.15    last year

And yet they did........and aren't.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.18  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.15    last year

If they don't they are accused of censorship. A warning would have been appropriate.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.19  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.17    last year

um no he didn't

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.20  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.19    last year

Ummmm no who didn't?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.20    last year

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.22  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.13    last year
Where did the Western Journal come from?

It's the source of the seed ... did you not realize that?

As far as the blah blah blah about the JCPOA toothlessness

do you realize that the IAEA cannot inspect everything in the USA either?

Since 1980 they can visit and provide advice on operations at 20 US Nuclear reactors/programs.

The USA has a 'voluntary offer' but refuses IAEA entry to many national security sensitive sites.

The Russians had more access to these sites than the IAEA until two years ago when they decided to bar US inspectors from any nuclear sites in Russia and we reciprocated.

Why would Iran or anyone else like Pakistan, agree to intrusive inspections by a potential opponent?

The JCPOA was the best agreement anyone could hope for and was signed by China, Russia, the USA, the UK, France, Germany and the EU,  no small feat considering the EU had to be unanimous. 

.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.23  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.22    last year
do you realize that the IAEA cannot inspect everything in the USA either?

The US already has nuclear weapons. The idea of the Iran deal was to verify what Iran was agreeing to.


Why would Iran or anyone else like Pakistan, agree to intrusive inspections by a potential opponent?

Because it was the whole point of the deal. Why else would there be a deal?  I suppose when one takes on a losing argument, one turns to gaslighting.

Obama's legacy will always be activist judges, Joe Biden, ISIS and arming Iran to the teeth.

 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.24  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.23    last year

I am sorry that I missed being able to answer this in a more timely manner.

The US already has nuclear weapons.

I think you point reveals that you don't know what the IEAE does. There are nine nuclear weaponed nations and each one developed their programs in near total secrecy.  Just like us, Iran will develop a nuclear weapon or just like another country they will steal or buy one.  it's inevitable. The IEAE gets to inspect what they are allowed to inspect by the courtesy of the home country i/e., nothing in Russia, practically nothing in china or the USA.  Other countries welcome them because they are basically experts in nuclear electric production, they are needed.

The idea of the Iran deal was to verify what Iran was agreeing to.

Did you proof read that?

Because it was the whole point of the deal. Why else would there be a deal? 

They have been sanctioned for decades, they want out of that, they got back pallets of money frozen for decades but no sanctions relief, they are a pariah on the high seas stuck in their little backwater behind Hormuz.

I suppose when one takes on a losing argument, one turns to gaslighting.

I suppose when you are an expert at it, I can only applaud your tenacity to keep coming back day after day in spite of being wrong so many times over so many years.

Obama's legacy will always be activist judges, Joe Biden, ISIS and arming Iran to the teeth.

Nice deflection, I guess...

Obama's legacy will be decided in the future and none of those things will probably be mentioned, especially arming Iran to the teeth, that is actually a knee slapper.  Did you see all of the Iranian Air Force kills against the Israeli's? /S  85% of all Iranian air craft have been grounded for lack of parts or old age, most were picked off casually having not been moved for decades. How about all of the ships attacked by the Iranian freshwater Navy? They haven't ventured from port yet.

Have a great weekend, maybe by Monday we will be at war with México and Canada, that will give something new to chew on.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @5    last year

The ben hamas Rhodes wing of the Democratic Party is in shambles, as their vision of turning Iran into the Middle East hegemon is falling apart.  All that cash given to Iran to subsidize the killing of American soldiers gone to waste.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Tacos! @5    last year

What was "perfectly good" about it. How did it make it a crisis now, since Obama gave them everything they wanted? Please give us all the details.

The days for deals have passed. The only solution going forward is regime change and the removal of Khamenei

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.3.1  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @5.3    last year

You first, or a son, Grandchild or Great Grandchild, but only the straight ones,,,  /S

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.3.2  Tacos!  replied to  Greg Jones @5.3    last year
The only solution going forward is regime change and the removal of Khamenei

Go for it, Bro! Imma pull up my lawn chair, light a cigar, and watch the show. 

original

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.3.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @5.3.2    last year

I'll bring the beer and the pretzels

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.3.4  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @5.3    last year
The only solution going forward is regime change

right idea, wrong regime ...

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
6  charger 383    last year

If Jimmy Carter had not let the Shah of Iran be overthrown this would not be a problem now 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1  Split Personality  replied to  charger 383 @6    last year

But life has a funny way of intervening; the Shah had cancer and was just as ruthless as any other despot.  He died and the country went back to tribal religious bs.

We can't fix our own country let alone shithole deserts overseas.

 
 

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