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Gas prices soared because of Big Oil's greed

  
Via:  John Russell  •  4 years ago  •  18 comments


Gas prices soared because of Big Oil's greed
 

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Jeff Bezos criticizing the White House for criticizing Big Oil's effect on gas prices.





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Ouch. Inflation is far too important a problem for the White House to keep making statements like this. It’s either straight ahead misdirection or a deep misunderstanding of basic market dynamics. twitter.com/POTUS/status/1


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June 2, 2014 Oil: $104.88 a barrel Gas: $3.69 a gallon Exxon's quarterly profit: $8.8 billion


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July 3, 2022 Oil: $108.43 a barrel Gas Price: $4.81 a gallon Exxon's quarterly profit: $16 billion+



Ouch. Gas prices soared because of Big Oil's greed. We need a windfall profits tax.


































































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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 years ago

www.rawstory.com   /jeff-bezos-greed/

'The problem is corporate greed, boss': Bezos blasted for defense of price-gouging

Jon Queally, Common Dreams 3-4 minutes   7/5/2022


Progressives ripped billionaire Jeff Bezos for his latest defense of corporate profiteering over the weekend in which the Amazon founder and world's second-richest person criticized a call by President Joe Biden for oil companies to lower the price of gasoline.

On Saturday, Bezos accused President Joe Biden of "misdirection" and ignorance "of basic market dynamic" in response to a   tweet   from the president which called on companies setting gasoline prices to "bring down the price you are charging."

While Bezos' comment sparked a sharp response from White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre—who   said   pump prices remaining constant despite a steep drop in crude oil prices isn't "basic market dynamics" but rather "a market that is failing the American consumer"—progressive critics also jumped into the fray.

Warren Gunnels, a longtime aide of Sen. Bernie Sanders and who currently serves as the Majority Staff Director for the U.S. Senate Budget Committee, responded to the back-and-forth between the White House and Bezos by offering a comparative rundown between the current price of gasoline and what it was in 2014:

"Ouch," said Gunnels, mocking Bezos. "Gas prices soared because of Big Oil's greed. We need a windfall profits tax."

In an earlier response, Gunnels pointed out the massive profits Amazon has enjoyed during the pandemic even as the retail raised prices for its consumers and launched an aggressive anti-union campaign against company employees organizing for better wages and working conditions.

"Ouch," tweeted Gunnels. "Amazon falsely blamed inflation on a 17% price hike on a Prime membership after its profit skyrocketed 453% since the pandemic while avoiding $5 billion in taxes, paying union busters $375 an hour and denying workers paid sick leave. The problem is corporate greed, boss."

In May, an analysis  detailed  how large oil and gas companies have used soaring profits—up 155% in the first quarter of 2022 compared to the year previous—to reward their shareholders and executives instead of offering relief to consumers.

As  Common Dreams   reported  Sunday, such  soaring profits  by oil giants like Exxon Mobil have bolstered the continued call for a windfall profits tax—the revenue of which would be returned to consumers as a way to reduce the pain experienced at the pump. So far, the Biden administration has not aggressively embraced that progressive demand.

Economist Richard D. Wolff, professor of economics emeritus at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, suggested Gunnels had it right.

"Bezos scared," Wolff   responded   on social media. "If supply less than demand markets raise prices (so too suppliers' profits). Oil suppliers know, use that. Gov't could cut prices, take over oil suppliers. Bezos fears same applies to Amazon 'services.' So wants to stop discussion."

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.1  goose is back  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago

John, do you bitch about Apple's profits, Amazon's profits, Google's profits?

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
2  SteevieGee    4 years ago

In 2013 crude oil hit $118. a barrel.  The price at the pump?  $3.53.

Today's price:  $113 a barrel and at the cheap gas place here in Sacramento?  $5.79.

It's not rocket science.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2.1  Ronin2  replied to  SteevieGee @2    4 years ago

So you think it costs the same today to take oil out of the ground, refine it, and transport it to destination as it did in 2013?

To start with, have you compared the environment regulations in place? How about the cost of labor; lawyers (those pesky environmental regulations); and permits (transportation laws have changed since 2013).

For those not familiar with Elogs- it helped cause the current driver shortage and increased costs to ship- it didn't roll out until 2016.

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February 16th, 2016 , is when the ELD mandate officially went into effect. This was a full 60 days after the ELD mandate was originally published in the register.

Phase One: Awareness and Transition Phase – This phase is intended to last from February 16, 2016 until December 18, 2017. During this time, all methods of logging HOS are acceptable, including paper logs, logging software, AOBRDs and ELDs.

Phase Two: Phased-In Compliance Phase – This phase will last from the end of phase one (December 18, 2017), up until December 16, 2019, a full four years after the ELD mandate was signed into law. During this time, carriers must begin taking compliance measures. Paper logging and logging software will no longer be permitted. Carriers must use either ELDs that are compliant with the mandate or AOBRDs that were installed prior to December 18, 2017.

Phase Three: Full Compliance Phase – The full compliance phase begins after December 16, 2019. After this date, all drivers and carriers operating in the United States will be required to track HOS using only registered and compliant electronic logging devices.

According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, prices for   transportation   are   20.26% higher   in 2022 versus 2013 (a $4.05 difference in value).

Between 2013 and 2022:   Transportation   experienced an average inflation rate of   2.07% per year . This rate of change indicates significant inflation. In other words,   transportation   costing $20 in the year 2013 would cost $24.05 in 2022 for an equivalent purchase. Compared to the overall inflation rate of 2.34% during this same period, inflation for   transportation   was lower.

In the year 2013:   Pricing changed by 0.03%, which is below the average yearly change for   transportation   during the 2013-2022 time period. Compared to   inflation for all items   in 2013 (1.46%), inflation for   transportation   was lower.

Seems that it is rocket science for some to understand why the cost of something is more now than it was 9 years ago.

The left is hot and bothered that Biden and the Democrats are going down due to their own stupidity. The only things they have left to run on are Trump and abortion. Midterms will not be kind to Democrats.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  SteevieGee @2    4 years ago
It's not rocket science

Exactly, rockets don't even use gasoline.

What is the profit margin on that gasoline at the Sacramento Gas Station?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.2    4 years ago

Sorry Charlie.  In 2014 Exxon for the same quarter had  a profit of 8.8 billion. For 2022 profits from the same quarter were 16 billion. Profits are figured after all expenses.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    4 years ago

Who's Charlie.  Are most US gas stations individually owned?  Does Exxon own that cheap place in Sacramento.  I think Exxon's profits come from much more than gasoline sales?  To make that $8,8 billion profit, how much capital did they have to invest?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Silent
2.2.3  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.2.2    4 years ago

Charlie is probably intelligent enough to realize that the "capital did they have to invest" was and has been subsidized by US, and STILL currently is to an extent. Why ? Why are You defending Big Corporations for raping US Citizens, cause $16 BILLION PROFITS in ONE Quarter, by one cmpany,, are not FCKN RIDICULOUs ?    Cause some may have to 'Beg' U pardon, cause Big Oil and Large Corporations, have helped themselves to our pay to a play two party totally playing US via our lap dancing pols, placed, in our Washington going D, & C,   to FCK U, & ME

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2.4  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    4 years ago

Are you, like Biden, blaming the gas station operators for the high prices?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.2.3    4 years ago
Why are You defending Big Corporations for raping US Citizens, cause $16 BILLION PROFITS in ONE Quarter, by one cmpany

I've defended no one, why do you confuse questions with a defense.  What were your thoughts when Exxon lost $22 billion in FY20 or their 2009 loss or barely breaking even in 2015?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.2.5    4 years ago

So you are happy to let consumers take it up the ass for Exxon shareholders. 

So they lost money one year. Where does it say that businesses have to increase their profits and stock prices every year?  And at the expense of their customers no less. 

Conservtives seem to enjoy being expoited by big business. They make enough damn excuses for it. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Silent
2.2.7  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.2.5    4 years ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
2.2.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.6    4 years ago
So they lost money one year.

Everybody did during the pandemic. People stopped living normally. Every place I go prices are up especially travel and hospitality. What two years ago it cost me to rent a car when on vacation, has nearly doubled as have the prices of lodging. Even restaurant's. And no the price of a hamburger or chicken wings hasn't gone up enough to justify a $2 increase. Everyone is trying to make up for lost profits or at least, trying to build a reserve for the next catastrophe.

With exploration costs and research etc, oil companies cannot withstand $20B losses.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Silent
2.2.9  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2.8    4 years ago

Why ? Why if their profits are that substantial, have they not put BILLIONS aside for those few and far between rainy days, ca use how often is it, that big oil Not Reign over the daze and confusion that they use to play little people into defending their ridiculous profits excused by ridiculous self proclaimed prophets, who do so, ? Well, not really sure just Y, but it seems to be associated with the GOP Mantra and handbook , that trickle down their legs will eventually work as long as there are books to cook, distractions to make ones look, but Silly, but, hey, if that is the in look, I’ll just say I’m sorry for not feeling too silly, with so many silly strings  attached to those detached from a reality I observe first hand, while looking at  feats, that befuddle, with thoughts of those really deep puddles, do cause the drowning in denial, all while they are also placed in Defile, probably under Duped, cause our pols have certainly stooped , to lows I’ve not B 4 observed , and it has become an ovation, for those standing by this absurd, a T, placed upon this once grate Nation, and just my observation.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
2.2.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.6    4 years ago
So you are happy to let consumers take it up the ass for Exxon shareholders. 

I don't know that we are taking it up the ass for Exxon shareholders.  You were unable to answer my previous questions so I think that your opinion is relatively uninformed.  The California Public Employees' Retirement System, the California State Teachers' Retirement System, and the New York State Common Retirement Fund, are some of those asshole Exxon investors.  Fuck them for investing in this vulture company, right?

Conservtives seem to enjoy being expoited by big business. They make enough damn excuses for it. 

I've made no excuses and you've made no argument on exploration?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
2.2.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.2.7    4 years ago
parsing words with the person who perpetually will provide a point provided...i'll order in contempt, for your persistent provided and produced pauses...our perceived petulance does expedite, cause i'm wrong whence forth it comes to me being right...will see if you persist to inquire with posed worthless inquires that only prolong the problematic predicament... i can cause a causation that could possibly, well, most probably,  produce casualtie... cause eyes ccccc's a little bit, when reading shit, and just mite, find a weigh to hang on the subcutaneous... i'll set off a Sace Shuttle of rebuttals' towards planet Ambiguity, cause thats where this has landed, 

I've never seen a more non-sensible, run-on sentence of 14 lines here on NT. 

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
2.2.12  SteevieGee  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.2.2    4 years ago
Does Exxon own that cheap place in Sacramento.

Like I said, it's the cheap place, not Exxon.  Exxon is about 55 cents higher and, yes, they do own it.

 
 
 
Revillug
Freshman Quiet
3  Revillug    4 years ago

I think a (slightly) more balanced explanation is that after Covid disrupted the oil industry and they had to shut down a lot of their capacity due to cratered demand labor shortages encouraged them to charge more for the remaining limited supply. They quickly learned how to maximize profits in an environment of oil shortages and now investors would like to see them trickle out supply for maximum price in perpetuity.

This is not much different from the housing supply issue in America. We have a housing profit model based on shortages and it has been that way for many decades.

The scary thought is that corporations could get used to profit gouging in a prolonged environment of shortages in other areas as well.

Mother Courage, anyone?

(This is not an argument on my part but a contribution to the conversation.)

 
 

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