How MAGA Inclinations Mirror The Rise And Fall Of The Third Reich
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Mark Jacob
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With all the arguments over whether MAGA Republicans are fascists, I reread William Shirer’s “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” to see how much the rise of Hitler and the rise of MAGA smell similar.
Conclusion: They do. This thread lists 10 ways. Please take a look.
1. A big lie about treachery is used to foment resentment. Nazis: We didn’t really lose World War I. It was a “stab in the back” by Jews and other "November criminals." MAGA: We didn’t really lose the 2020 election. It was a “steal” by politicians and Blacks in big cities.
2. There’s an obsession with purity of the culture. Nazis: “Racial mixture” was a threat to Aryan culture, Hitler wrote. MAGA: “Great replacement theory” says immigrants threaten white culture.
3. Chaos is something to be exploited, not addressed. Nazis: Economic distress is a great political opportunity. MAGA: Economic distress is a great political opportunity.
4. The super-rich bankroll the right-wing seizure of power. Nazis: Thanks to I.G. Farben, Deutsche Bank, Thyssen, Krupp, etc. MAGA: Thanks to the Mercers, Uihleins, DeVos, Thiel, etc.
5. Some people think the fascist threat is overblown. Nazis: While Hitler posed a major threat, some said he "ceased to be a political danger.” (2 weeks later, he was chancellor.) MAGA: While Trump poses a major threat, many people think it’s “just politics,” no worries.
6. There’s a cult of personality. Nazis: The German army made a pledge of loyalty to Hitler personally. MAGA: Trump’s supporters bill him as “the most moral president” in U.S. history.
7. Christianity is used to legitimize the movement. Nazis: “The party stands for positive Christianity.” MAGA: Trump is described as the “Chosen One” protecting American Christianity.
8. Books are the enemy. Nazis: Any book that “acts subversively on our future” must be burned. MAGA: “I think we should throw those books in a fire,” says a Virginia school board member.
9. An independent news media is the enemy. Nazis: Any newspaper that “offends the honor and dignity of Germany” must be banned. MAGA: The press is the “enemy of the people.”
10. Educators are pressured to be politically compliant. Nazis: Teachers took an oath to “be loyal and obedient to Adolf Hitler.” MAGA: Florida’s DeSantis accuses teachers of “indoctrination” and pressures them to avoid references to America’s racist history and LGBTQ people.
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Someone flagged the title of the article as "inflammatory". This is the beginning of the seeded article, per the author
With all the arguments over whether MAGA Republicans are fascists, I reread William Shirer’s “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” to see how much the rise of Hitler and the rise of MAGA smell similar.
Conclusion: They do.
Clearly, the title of the article accurately reflects what is written in the body of the article.
I think there is more "evidence" that MAGA has Third Reich similarities than that Democrats are "socialist".
Of course you do. NO one will be surprised by that.
Comment on the article. I will give no more warnings.
The whole article was paranoid blathering by some progressive weirdo with no critical thinking skills and a fucked up imagination. The reasoning and logic are faulty
From all reports and multiple sources, Biden's speech has been described as eerily reminiscent of those of Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Mao, et al.
What evidence is there that Democrats are socialist?
I think MAGA can be compared to Nazi Germany only in the most general sense, which is what I think the seeded article does. Because America has a long history of individual rights and democracy, we are still pretty far from a "Third reich", still there are undeniable similarities and the author did a good job of presenting them.
In rebuttal, let's look at this fool article from a different angle...
How Liberal Inclinations Mirror The Rise And Fall Of The Third Reich
1. A big lie about treachery is used to foment resentment. Nazis: We didn’t really lose World War I. It was a “stab in the back” by Jews and other "November criminals." Liberals: Anything and everything Republican is a threat to democracy, and, oh, yeah, all white people are supremacists.
2. here’s an obsession with purity of the culture. Nazis: “Racial mixture” was a threat to Aryan culture, Hitler wrote. Liberals: The white race needs to cease to exist, but yet, somehow, we want white people to pay reparations to the "oppressed" black community.
3. Chaos is something to be exploited, not addressed. Nazis: Economic distress is a great political opportunity. Liberals: "Never let a crisis go to waste".
4. The super-rich bankroll the left-wing seizure of power. Nazis: Thanks to I.G. Farben, Deutsche Bank, Thyssen, Krupp, etc. Liberals: Thanks to the Bezos, Soros, Schwab, etc.
5. Some people think the fascist threat is overblown. Nazis: While Hitler posed a major threat, some said he "ceased to be a political danger.” (2 weeks later, he was chancellor.) Liberals: While Trump poses a major threat, Biden is in power now and is doing everything he can to dismantle to freedoms of this country. No worries.
6. There’s a cult of personality. Nazis: The German army made a pledge of loyalty to Hitler personally. Liberals: Barack Husein Obama...mmmm....mmmm....mmm, Biden the Magnificent.
7. Christianity is used to legitimize the movement. Nazis: “The party stands for positive Christianity.” Liberals: Christians scare me and therefore, they need to be mocked if they can't be wiped from the earth. Liberalism is the new religion and must be followed.
8. Books are the enemy. Nazis: Any book that “acts subversively on our future” must be burned. Liberals: Anything that may trigger a fellow liberal must be banned, "To Kill a Mockingbird", "Irreversible Damage", amongst others, must be banned.
9. An independent news media is the enemy. Nazis: Any newspaper that “offends the honor and dignity of Germany” must be banned. Liberals: Fox News triggers me, I demand the FTC orders it off the air, Joe Rogan said something I don't like. He needs to be kicked off Spotify.
10. Educators are pressured to be politically compliant. Nazis: Teachers took an oath to “be loyal and obedient to Adolf Hitler.” Liberals: Teachers are to be compliant to the teachers unions. We demand gender and CRT are stuffed down our youngest children's throats so they can be good little liberals in the future.
It has to be really bad when comparisons to Nazis are taken seriously!
Well, the seed is literally a cut & paste to destroy context and avoid confronting inconvenient truths.
The NAZIs used contrived provocations to place themselves in the position of victim. The NAZIs focused attention on grievances that portrayed large segments of the population as victims. The NAZIs focused attention on identity as a victim and demanded social reforms to redress past grievances. The NAZIs deliberately divided Germany by focusing attention on social issues, grievances, reparations for past events, and promises of social reform. The NAZIs portrayed themselves as defenders of social justice and as being the only enlightened choice to correct social injustice.
In today's terms, the NAZIs were woke. Today's 'brown majority' is a mythological racial goal little different from the NAZIs goal of mythological Aryan racial purity. Today's demands for social reforms to redress racial, cultural, and identity grievances based upon mythological ideals was also the centerpiece of NAZIs efforts to coerce, and eventually control, the government of Germany.
The inconvenient truth is that the NAZI movement began as a social justice movement. The NAZIs had their own form of the 1619 Project to establish a stylized and mythologized history that emphasized grievance and victimhood.
MAGA is not repeating the NAZI experiment. In fact, MAGA has become an insurmountable obstacle to repeating the NAZI efforts for social reform by coercing and controlling an autocratic national government. A repeat of the NAZI model of social reform through autocratic central government is being thwarted by demands for state's rights and decentralized government. Demands for a weak central government prevents a repeat of the NAZI experiment. And those who would become American NAZIs are upset about MAGA getting in the way.
The right wingers aren't the only ones who want to ban this or that book these days: