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"Unity", MAGA Style

  
By:  John Russell  •  4 years ago  •  30 comments


"Unity", MAGA Style
 

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scenes from Trump rally last night



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Marjorie Taylor Greene at Trump rally last night

"President Trump WON the election"

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What would you like to hear President Trump say tonight?

"I'd love to hear him say he's running"

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According to the right, Biden is the main thing preventing national "unity".  More rational people would say that Trump rallies are just about the most divisive thing that happens in America, and have been for years now. 

Have none of the people who talk about "unity" from a right wing perspective never seen or heard a Trump rally? 

This was LAST NIGHT. 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    4 years ago

Both sidesism is in full force in the media today though. I just saw a "pundit" on ABC's This Week say that Biden has failed to unite the country. 

Who the hell wants to unite with MAGA rally goers ? 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago

Oh give it up. There's more than one side in this country. It appears you favor divisiveness and disunity. Are you saying you have no right wing friends or associates

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    4 years ago
Fans wore T-shirts reading   YOU RAIDED THE WRONG PRESIDENT   and   THREAT TO DEMOCRACY , in a reference to President Joe Biden’s   speech last week   in Philadelphia. The audience of thousands screamed in agreement when Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, who’s become a regular warm-up act at these rallies, declared that the FBI had “violated our president’s rights.” And later on, the crowd exploded into one resounding, ricocheting jeer when Trump, finally on stage, addressed the matter himself. “There can be no more real example of the very clear threats to American freedom than just a few weeks ago,” the former president said, when “we witnessed one of the most shocking abuses of power we have witnessed from any administration in American history!”

The fools in attendance lapped it all up. 

You by the way continue with the hallucination that Trump is old news. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    4 years ago

One of the biggest, if not THE biggest issue in this country is the fact that millions of MAGA have been infected with two or three decades of far right conspiracy theories, which has ruined their ability to think clearly. 

Its sad, for sure, but it is also true. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    4 years ago
it was Trump’s FBI comments that got the crowd most riled up. “The FBI and the Justice Department have become vicious monsters, controlled by radical-left scoundrels, lawyers, and the media, who tell them what to do,” he told them. Audience members whooped, and a few shouted out “Defund the FBI!”

Does that sound like a plea for unity to you? 

 
 
 
squiggy
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1.1.4  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.2    4 years ago
millions of MAGA have been infected with two or three decades

That rat thar - is a really good indication that you can't separate MAGA from ordinary, moderate conservatives with a reasonable, differing view. It's the same brand of lip slip that Obama made when he mouthed off about stupid rednecks clinging to guns and religion. Y'all are saying nothing more than, 'fuck 'em all.'

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.5  author  JohnRussell  replied to  squiggy @1.1.4    4 years ago

Do you denounce Donald Trump, yes or no? 

That is all I need to know. 

The Republican senate nominee in Washington state was on tv this morning. The interviewer asked her if she agreed that Biden legitimately won the election, and the GOP nominee for US senator from Washington state could not or would not answer the question with a yes or no. She is terrified that Trump or Trump MAGA will turn on her if she says Biden won.  And she claims to be a "moderate" Republican. 

 
 
 
squiggy
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1.1.6  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    4 years ago

Trump’s an idiot. You just keep on with your mission, though. As trump celebrates life, in your head, you give oxygen to the Republican contenders - any one of whom will soak up Independent and moderate support, kicking the Giveaways to the curb.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.7  author  JohnRussell  replied to  squiggy @1.1.6    4 years ago
any one of whom will soak up Independent and moderate support

which one of the Republican contenders will soak up moderate support?  DeSantis? Ted Cruz? Mike Pompeo? Josh Hawley? Tom Cotton?  LOL. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago

Exactly, he needs to figure out how to deport them.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2    4 years ago
Who the hell wants to unite with MAGA rally goers ? 

I repeat the question. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.1    4 years ago
I repeat the question.

Copy n’ paste makes it easy.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  author  JohnRussell    4 years ago

www.theatlantic.com   /politics/archive/2022/09/trump-rally-fbi-pennsylvania-maga/671343/

Trump Returns to Rally Team MAGA

Elaine Godfrey 9-11 minutes   9/4/2022


WILKES-BARRE, Pa.—Donald Trump’s   rally on Saturday night   was his first major public appearance since the FBI searched his Florida home—and you could tell. A kind of manic, vengeful energy circulated among the throngs of supporters in the blue stadium seats at the Mohegan Sun Arena. Fans wore T-shirts reading   YOU RAIDED THE WRONG PRESIDENT   and   THREAT TO DEMOCRACY , in a reference to President Joe Biden’s   speech last week   in Philadelphia. The audience of thousands screamed in agreement when Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, who’s become a regular warm-up act at these rallies, declared that the FBI had “violated our president’s rights.” And later on, the crowd exploded into one resounding, ricocheting jeer when Trump, finally on stage, addressed the matter himself.

“There can be no more real example of the very clear threats to American freedom than just a few weeks ago,” the former president said, when “we witnessed one of the most shocking abuses of power we have witnessed from any administration in American history!”

Trump is back at the forefront of American politics, just two months ahead of the midterm elections. This time, the former president is in a strange new position: He’s backed into a corner by legal trouble. And his ever-loyal fans have joined him in a defensive crouch. “We came because of the Mar-a-Lago raid,” Mike Rutherford, a truck driver from East Stroudsburg, told me. He sat near the stage in a folding chair alongside his wife, Pat. “We’re here to support him,” Pat said, nodding. “I can’t believe how brave that man is.”

Pennsylvania found itself smack-dab in the eye of the midterms hurricane this week. Trump’s rally was intended to give a boost to the flagging campaigns of the gubernatorial candidate and State Senator Doug Mastriano and the Senate candidate Mehmet Oz, both of whom have endorsed Trump’s election lies and received his endorsement in exchange. Just two days ago, Biden spoke 100 miles to the south before an eerily lit Independence Hall, and was more direct in his warnings than he’s been in previous addresses: “Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our Republic.” The Darth Vader optics of his speech may have interfered with its intended effect, but Trump and the candidates he’s endorsed   are   a threat to democracy because they appear to believe in only two kinds of election outcomes: Either they win or the system is rigged.

David Frum: The justification for Biden’s speech

Pennsylvania has become a hub for “Stop the Steal” candidates thanks, in part, to Mastriano, who spoke ahead of Trump on Saturday night. The Republican state senator and former Army colonel was outside the Capitol when rioters broke in on January 6; he helped lead the state efforts to overturn the presidential election in 2020; and he’s been subpoenaed by the January 6 committee for his alleged involvement in organizing an alternate set of Electoral College electors for Trump. (Last week, Mastriano   sued the panel   to avoid testifying.)

Both he and Oz offered versions of their stump speeches and declared solidarity with their party leader in his moment of need on Saturday. Other headliners included Greene, the Georgia representative who’d descended the arena steps earlier in the afternoon as “She’s a Beauty” by the Tubes played over the loudspeakers, and the Pennsylvania congressional candidate Jim Bognet, who quipped that America should hire “87,000 more border patrol agents, not IRS agents!”

When Trump emerged shortly after 7 p.m., backed by the usual Lee Greenwood soundtrack, he meandered through his standard repertoire: the Russia investigation “hoax,” Biden’s failures, the death penalty for drug dealers. He even managed to encourage a mass heckling of the press seated in the back of the stadium on at least five occasions. But it was Trump’s FBI comments that got the crowd most riled up. “The FBI and the Justice Department have become vicious monsters, controlled by radical-left scoundrels, lawyers, and the media, who tell them what to do,” he told them. Audience members whooped, and a few shouted out “Defund the FBI!”

The Trump’s fans I’d spoken with earlier, standing near the Dippin’ Dots ice-cream stall and in line for Chickie’s & Pete’s chicken cutlets, all had his back. “It’s politically motivated,” Jim Shaw, a barber from New Milford, told me when I asked what he made of the search at Mar-a-Lago. “If Donald Trump wasn’t looking like he was the [leading] Republican candidate for president, I don’t think it would have happened.” Every one of the dozen or so people I talked with offered some defense of the former president: The search was a setup; the evidence was planted; Biden’s DOJ was trampling on Trump’s constitutional rights to keep him from running for office again.

Read: ‘Stop the Steal’ is a metaphor

I detected a touch of desperation in many people’s responses—a sense that, if Trump-endorsed candidates don’t win in November, America as they know it will cease to exist. Here in northeast Pennsylvania—just 20 miles down the road from Biden’s hometown—was a gathering of people not just pessimistic about the future of the country under his leadership, but deeply fearful too. “At this point right now,   I’m   worried about being targeted by the FBI because I’m a Christian, I’m conservative,” Pat Rutherford said. “I know they won’t find anything, but I am going to need a lawyer to prove I am innocent.” The DOJ “is like a militia for the Democrats,” Linda Hess, from Selinsgrove, told me. “I think our First Amendment rights are basically gone as conservatives. I really do.”

Trump and his loyalists are eager to fan these fears. “Your president called all of you extremists!” Greene told the rally when she was on stage. “Joe Biden has declared that half of this country are enemies of the state!” (The president, in fact, made a clear distinction: “Not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans, are MAGA Republicans.”) “Save us, Trump!” one woman yelled from the crowd during his speech.

Fear can be a winning political tactic. It helped candidates like Mastriano sail to victory in the Republican primary. But general elections are different. The president’s party usually fares poorly in the midterms cycle, and just a few weeks ago, the fundamentals would have indicated that Republicans were about to have an excellent November. Recently, though, the numbers have shifted in the Democrats’ favor. Inflation is down, and so are gas prices; new job numbers are high, and unemployment is still low; and Democrats are already seeing signs that their voters are highly motivated by the overturning of   Roe v. Wade . In the latest polls, both Mastriano and Oz   are   trailing   their respective Democratic opponents, Josh Shapiro and John Fetterman.

Still, 10 weeks is a long time in American politics. Republicans could gain back an edge between now and then. Some experts predict that both races will probably   end up much closer   than they are now. The risks of electing an election denier such as Mastriano are clear: As governor, he’d have the power to appoint the secretary of state, and together, the two officials could muddy the waters after a close election or, allied with the Republican-dominated state legislature, even change election rules to benefit their party.

That danger extends far beyond the Keystone State. Other “Stop the Steal” candidates are running all over the country. In 2020 battleground states, candidates who’ve endorsed Trump’s lies about election fraud have won nearly two-thirds of GOP nominations for state and federal offices with election-oversight powers, according to   a   Washington Post   analysis .

Read: The radical fringe that just went mainstream in Arizona

Whether these specific candidates win or lose, election denial has become the most important litmus test for the MAGA base. “Stop the Steal” is an expression of a deepening distrust in government and institutions—a mantra to remind its adherents that they, not their political opponents, are the rightful inheritors of America. The phrase is a metaphor, the sociologist Theda Skocpol   told me last month , “for the country being taken away from the people who think they should rightfully be setting the tone.”

When their candidates lose, it can be only through trickery. When their leader is investigated for squirreling away cartons of national secrets at his country club, it’s a targeted attack by the “ Regime ,” to use Florida Republican Governor Ron DeSantis’s word—and capitalization.

After Mastriano had finished speaking, and before Trump took to the stage, an elderly white man stood up behind me and shouted, “Whose country is this?” The people nearby in the bleachers joined him in response: “It’s our country!” Later, Trump affirmed the sentiment. “No matter how big or powerful these corrupt radicals may be, you must never forget that this nation does not belong to them,” he told his supporters. “This nation belongs to you!” The people in the stadium roared their approval.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  author  JohnRussell    4 years ago

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Last night

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 years ago

Beautiful sight, ain't it, John?

Someone not even in office or running for anything drawing that size crowd.

Far cry from what we saw from someone who WAS running for office.

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JohnRussell
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3.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @3.1    4 years ago

And you probably believe Trump REALLY won , because of photos like this one.

ROFL. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.2  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    4 years ago

Posting photos to prove a point of how unpopular Biden was....and is......does not mean I think Trump on.

In fact, I invite you to post something I have said that I believe Trump actually won the election.

I can wait.

ROFL

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @3.1.2    4 years ago
In fact, I invite you to post something I have said that I believe Trump actually won the election.

You could have fooled me, and Im sure just about everyone else who reads these seeds. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.4  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    4 years ago

John, you have been fooled by those that feed you leftist talking points you parrot here everyday.

Now, again, show me where I stated I think Trump won.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.5  author  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @3.1.4    4 years ago

I am not interested in your diversion Bugs. 

If you say you dont support Trump, congratulations on making the right choice. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
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3.1.6  Gazoo  replied to  bugsy @3.1    4 years ago

Not sure if you’ve seen this but dementia boy held a rally in wilkes-barre pa last week also. His looked like amateur hour at a small school gymnasium. Very pathetic compared to Trump’s rally.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.7  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @3.1.6    4 years ago

Are you a Donald Trump fan? 

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.8  bugsy  replied to  Gazoo @3.1.6    4 years ago

I bet most that went to the Biden "rally" got paid to go, and on a work day.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.9  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.7    4 years ago
Are you a Donald Trump fan? 

Why do you ask this of everyone that points out how much of a shit bag Biden is.

Joe Biden is the worst president in modern history and is not fit to hold office.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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3.1.10  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.7    4 years ago

Are you feeling the urge to throw insults?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    4 years ago

You are right John. The overnight manager of the gas station in Scranton is as divisive as joe Biden.

great comparison 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    4 years ago

Uh, that was a Trump rally last night, and it wasnt in a gas station.  Gasbag station, yes. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    4 years ago
Trump rally last night, and it wasnt in a gas station.

Yes John It was a joke. I was referring tot he picture of the guy with the obnoxious t-shirt. 

That you have to resort to defend Biden by comparing him to nobodies at a rally speaks volumes.

Can you ever defend your hero by not citing Trump (the supposed worst person of all time) or assholes on the street as justifications?   All you ever do is point out Biden is the same as Trump and get mad when people agree with you. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.1    4 years ago

The entire purpose of this seed is to point out the ridiculous nature of MAGA's whining that Biden was not unifier in his speech the other night.

Trump has held dozens of rallies over the past 6 years. WAS A SINGLE ONE OF THOSE DOZENS OF RALLIES (MANY OF THEM HELD WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES) A UNIFYING EVENT? 

You used to be a serious person. 

 
 

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