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Trump officials removed '2.7 million' PPP fraud flags from 'the largest corporations' during his lame duck period

  
Via:  John Russell  •  4 years ago  •  48 comments

By:   West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice (Alternet. org)

Trump officials removed '2.7 million' PPP fraud flags from 'the largest corporations' during his lame duck period
Zhang points out that a National Bureau of Economic Research study released in January 2022 "estimated that only between about a quarter and a third of PPP loans went to saving workers' jobs." "The rest — about 66 to 77 percent — went to business owners and people like shareholders," Zhang reports. "Many loans went directly to the rich. Several billionaires or companies owned by billionaires received loans, like Republican fundraiser Joe Farrell or Kanye West's apparel company, valued at $3...

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The Paycheck Protection Program (PPP), which was part of the CARES Act of 2020, was launched under former President Donald Trump in response to the COVID-19 pandemic and continued into the Joe Biden era. Some PPP loans were investigated by federal officials and flagged for potential fraud. But according to a Project on Government Oversight (POGO) report released on Thursday, October 6, the Trump Administration eliminated an abundance of flags during its final weeks in office.

Truthout's Sharon Zhang reports that according to POGO's report, Small Business Administration (SBA) officials "eliminated 2.7 million flags between December 2020 and January 2021, as the Administration was in its lame duck period."

In an article published on October 6, Zhang notes, "Special preference was given to the largest loans, which often also went to the largest corporations. On January 16, 2021, four days before President Joe Biden's inauguration, Trump's SBA wiped 99 percent of special review flags — which were given out to every loan above $2 million for separate investigatory purposes."

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Zhang notes that according to POGO, the Trump Administration "appeared to have favored the very largest loan recipients."

"Trump continually gave huge financial favors to large corporations during his time in office — and though most large corporations were exempt from receiving PPP loans, some large corporations managed to skirt the rules and receive loans anyway," Zhang observes. "Out of the $800 billion given out in the program, flagged loans accounted for at least $189 billion. Because the vast majority of PPP loans — 95 percent — have been forgiven, it's likely that many of these loans that had previously been flagged have been forgiven entirely."

Zhang points out that a National Bureau of Economic Research study released in January 2022 "estimated that only between about a quarter and a third of PPP loans went to saving workers' jobs."

"The rest — about 66 to 77 percent — went to business owners and people like shareholders," Zhang reports. "Many loans went directly to the rich. Several billionaires or companies owned by billionaires received loans, like Republican fundraiser Joe Farrell or Kanye West's apparel company, valued at $3 billion. One loan, POGO found, went to a hotel owned by West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice, a Republican who is the richest man in the state and a former billionaire."

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Zhang adds, "The loan was worth $8.9 million and appeared to have been flagged eight times by the SBA. Another loan with nine flags, worth over $5 million, appears to belong to a Kentucky hospitality corporation whose annual revenue of $850 million would likely make it too large to receive a PPP loan."

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 years ago
On January 16, 2021, four days before President Joe Biden's inauguration, Trump's SBA wiped 99 percent of special review flags — which were given out to every loan above $2 million for separate investigatory purposes."

Most corrupt president in US history. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago

Not surprising.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.2  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago

When it comes to corruption, Trump is a rookie compared to the Biden’s.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sparty On @1.2    4 years ago

And they use the FBI and DOJ to cover for them.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.1    4 years ago

Yep, a real “pro” move.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago
Most corrupt president in US history.

And after 7 years of "investigating" to look for ANYTHING there are no charges.  I wonder why that is?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.1  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.3    4 years ago

The obvious conclusion (given your reasoning method) is that Trump has done nothing wrong.

And the only thing Al Capone ever did wrong was tax evasion.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.1    4 years ago
The obvious conclusion (given your reasoning method) is that Trump has done nothing wrong.

I never said he did anything wrong or right.  I'm pointing out that the Democrats have been "investigating" Trump for anything.  So far, there have been ZERO charges filed.  I wonder why that is?  Incompetence of the Democrats (safe guess)?  Incompetence of the "investigators" (another safe guess)? 

And it's cute you think you know me that well.  Naturally, again, you're wrong but it's cute you try.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.3  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.3.2    4 years ago
I never said he did anything wrong or right. 

Yup, you never acknowledge that Trump has done wrong.   A profoundly ridiculous position to maintain.

And it's cute you think you know me that well. 

Has nothing to do with knowing you;  it has everything to do with your comments in this forum.   You have never, in every challenge I have made directly to you, even hinted that Trump has done wrong.   And in your most recent comment you illustrate your reasoning method yet again:  unless charged (and implicitly convicted), Trump has done nothing wrong.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.3    4 years ago
up, you never acknowledge that Trump has done wrong.   

Why would I acknowledge something that hasn't been proven?  Your hurt feelings and temper tantrum aren't enough.  Honestly it makes you all look like that 4 year old in Wal-Mart when mommy won't buy them candy.  

A profoundly ridiculous position to maintain.

Then change my mind.  Show me the reports that a crime has been committed.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.3.5  Sparty On  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.3.4    4 years ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sparty On @1.3.5    4 years ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.7    4 years ago

And as usual you're wrong again.  My opposition to the left isn't supporting Trump.  I'm asking for something you haven't been able to do. Change my mind.

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TᵢG
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1.3.9  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.3.4    4 years ago
Why would I acknowledge something that hasn't been proven? 

Because human beings routinely acknowledge the obvious based on clear evidence and reason without having a formal proof.   We cannot function if we wait for true 'proofs' to be delivered before we accept factors as likely true.   

Your hurt feelings and temper tantrum aren't enough.  Honestly it makes you all look like that 4 year old in Wal-Mart when mommy won't buy them candy.  

This is just childish.   None of my comments have anything to do with feelings ... this is a witless platitude that you constantly spew on this site.   It is simply mindless trolling in lieu of an intelligent rebuttal.

Show me the reports that a crime has been committed.  

I have done this repeatedly and for a lower bar ... just asking you to acknowledge that Trump has done wrong (not even claiming a crime).   You will not even do that.  Your reasoning is ridiculous and I doubt you have fooled anyone on this site.

If you understand the PRA you would see that Trump was wrong to hold classified materials in his home.   Flat out.   You refuse to even acknowledge something this obvious.   You also refuse to acknowledge that it was wrong for Trump to attempt to coerce Raffensperger to find votes for him yet the entire phone conversation is public knowledge and obvious.   Worse still, you refuse to acknowledge that it was wrong for Trump to lie to the entire world in his Big Lie claim.

You refuse to acknowledge any wrongdoing by Trump.   Your position is pathetically partisan and defies overwhelming evidence.    

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.10  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @1.3.5    4 years ago
It’s a fools errand.

Was it  wrong  for Trump to try to overturn the results of the election using the authority of his office and against the Constitution?  Was it wrong for Trump to:

  • claim that he won the election but was cheated due to fraud in the US electoral system?
  • agitate his supporters into falsely thinking their votes were disenfranchised?
  • try to get officials (e.g.  Raffensperger) to 'find votes' so that he could win states he lost (e.g. Georgia)?
  • try to get state legislators to override the votes in their states (e.g. Michigan)?
  • try to get the Speaker of the AZ House (Bowers) to authorize fake electors?
  • try to suborn an unconstitutional act from his own V.P. — to get Pence to table counts of select states he lost to try to win through all other states?
  • encourage his supporters to fight against the 'fraud' and to protest the count (after months of working them up with lies of a fraudulent election)?
  • tweet that Pence had let them down in the middle of the insurrection?
  • refuse to take action to stop the insurrection for 3 hours?

This is a collective question of right vs. wrong .   

I am confident you will run away from it.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.3.11  afrayedknot  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.10    4 years ago

“This is a collective question of right vs. wrong .”

Simple to comprehend. Impossible to deny. Unbelievable to accept.

And yet…

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.12  TᵢG  replied to  afrayedknot @1.3.11    4 years ago
And yet…

I know, it is fascinating to watch people shoot their own foot (make foolish arguments and claims, engage in pathetic obvious deflection, etc.) rather than acknowledge the demonstrated, evidenced obvious.

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.3.13  Kavika   replied to  TᵢG @1.3.9    4 years ago

Feelings are a good thing since no feelings can be a sign of mental disease.

The ongoing nonsense of the right using feelings as some type of a bad thing seems to indicate that they have no feelings and are subject to mental difficulties.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.3.14  afrayedknot  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.12    4 years ago

In an attempt to justify their untenable position; they besmirch the source, they cite the anecdotal, they parrot the party line, and worse…they have no interest in engaging in the difficult dialogue as acting the divisive demagogue is so much easier. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.9    4 years ago
Show me the reports that a crime has been committed.  
I have done this repeatedly and for a lower bar ... just asking you to acknowledge that Trump has done wrong (not even claiming a crime).   You will not even do that

so you'll have no problem doing it again.  

You aren't doing a good job changing my mind.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.16  TᵢG  replied to  Kavika @1.3.13    4 years ago

Yes but declaring all opposing views to be based simply on 'feelings' (emotions) rather than critical thinking is a witless dodge.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.17  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.3.15    4 years ago
so you'll have no problem doing it again.  

LOL, as I did in the very comment you just dodged @1.3.9 :

TiG @1.3.9 ☞ If you understand the PRA you would see that Trump was wrong to hold classified materials in his home.   Flat out.   You refuse to even acknowledge something this obvious.   You also refuse to acknowledge that it was wrong for Trump to attempt to coerce Raffensperger to find votes for him yet the entire phone conversation is public knowledge and obvious.   Worse still, you refuse to acknowledge that it was wrong for Trump to lie to the entire world in his Big Lie claim.

... and in the comment following it @1.3.10 :

TiG @1.3.10 ☞  Was it   wrong  for Trump to try t o overturn the results of the election using the authority of his office and against the Constitution?  Was it wrong  for Trump to:
  • claim that he won the election but was cheated due to fraud in the US electoral system?
  • agitate his supporters into falsely thinking their votes were disenfranchised?
  • try to get officials (e.g.  Raffensperger) to 'find votes' so that he could win states he lost (e.g. Georgia)?
  • try to get state legislators to override the votes in their states (e.g. Michigan)?
  • try to get the Speaker of the AZ House (Bowers) to authorize fake electors?
  • try to suborn an unconstitutional act from his own V.P. — to get Pence to table counts of select states he lost to try to win through all other states?
  • encourage his supporters to fight against the 'fraud' and to protest the count (after months of working them up with lies of a fraudulent election)?
  • tweet that Pence had let them down in the middle of the insurrection?
  • refuse to take action to stop the insurrection for 3 hours?

Absolutely pathetic.   You must think readers are beyond stupid to not see this.

You aren't doing a good job changing my mind.

Changing your mind is not an objective;  that is clearly never going to happen.   My objective is to illustrate the absurdity of your reasoning.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3.20  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.17    4 years ago
LOL, as I did in the very comment you just dodged  @1.3.9   :

Didn't dodge it.  In 1.3.4 I ask you to change my mind.  I'm waiting on that.  Not your circular bullshit.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3.21  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.19    4 years ago
He said that to me to - about changing his mind.  That's not possible.

I knew I would get anything from you.  You fail at that daily.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.22  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.3.20    4 years ago
In 1.3.4 I ask you to change my mind.  I'm waiting on that. 

Pay attention Jeremy.   I am not going to attempt to change your mind.   That is not my objective.   My objective is to illustrate the absurdity of your position.   Your endless dodges make this easy to do.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.23  TᵢG  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.19    4 years ago
I make no further attempts to 'debate' with someone who refuses to acknowledge basic facts/truth/knowledge/common sense.  

Absolutely, no point using reason when faced with an immutable, irrational position.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.22    4 years ago
Pay attention Jeremy.

I am.  And I see you've failed 3 times.  Not a single link to what you claim has already been proven.  I guess it was harder than you thought.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.27  TᵢG  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.26    4 years ago

Some have the misguided belief that constantly dodging challenges accomplishes some positive result for their position.

What it does, in actuality, is make them look foolish and further support the fact that their position is ridiculous.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.3.28  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.27    4 years ago

No offence to you but this has to be one of the dumbest exchanges I have read in a while.

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.3.29  Kavika   replied to  TᵢG @1.3.27    4 years ago

Kind of like debating with a pigeon.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.3.30  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.10    4 years ago
I am confident you will run away from it.

Lol .... and I’m confident you will continue to display your usual off topic TDS ranting.    Subsidized by the usual lopsided NT moderation.

Pathetic.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.31  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @1.3.30    4 years ago

You ran from the question.   As expected.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.3.32  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.31    4 years ago

Nah, the day I run from you on anything will never come but keep playing those pathetic little NT word games ... SOSDD considering.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.33  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @1.3.32    4 years ago

Do you truly think people do not see you run away from my questions:

TiG @1.3.10 ☞

Was it   wrong   for Trump to try to overturn the results of the election using the authority of his office and against the Constitution?  Was it  wrong  for Trump to:

  • claim that he won the election but was cheated due to fraud in the US electoral system?
  • agitate his supporters into falsely thinking their votes were disenfranchised?
  • try to get officials (e.g.  Raffensperger) to 'find votes' so that he could win states he lost (e.g. Georgia)?
  • try to get state legislators to override the votes in their states (e.g. Michigan)?
  • try to get the Speaker of the AZ House (Bowers) to authorize fake electors?
  • try to suborn an unconstitutional act from his own V.P. — to get Pence to table counts of select states he lost to try to win through all other states?
  • encourage his supporters to fight against the 'fraud' and to protest the count (after months of working them up with lies of a fraudulent election)?
  • tweet that Pence had let them down in the middle of the insurrection?
  • refuse to take action to stop the insurrection for 3 hours?

This is a collective question of right vs.   wrong  .   

I am confident you will run away from it.

And you continue to run while claiming 'word games'.

Amazing how some cannot muster the intellectual honesty to even acknowledge wrong-doing by Trump.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.3.35  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.33    4 years ago

Do you not get that this seed is about PPP fraud?

The games you play here on NT are just pathetic.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.36  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @1.3.35    4 years ago

Context:

JR (seeder) @1 ☞ Most corrupt president in US history. 

Seeder establishes context for thread @1  ⇡

SpartyOn @1.2 ☞ When it comes to corruption, Trump is a rookie compared to the Biden’s.

SpartyOn acknowledges context and then immediately deflects to Biden  ⇡

Jeremy @1.3 ☞ And after 7 years of "investigating" to look for ANYTHING there are no charges.  I wonder why that is?

Jeremy delivers the predictable platitude:  'Trump has done no wrong because there are no formal charges'.  ⇡

TiG @1.3.1 ☞ The obvious conclusion (given your reasoning method) is that Trump has done nothing wrong.   And the only thing Al Capone ever did wrong was tax evasion.

I illustrate the obvious flaw in that reasoning.  ⇡


From here, Jeremy (and then you) deflect and dance instead of dealing with the challenge that Trump has engaged in wrongdoing.

If you pen a comment opposing the thread premise established by the seeder @1 do not be surprised if you are challenged.

You cannot acknowledge Trump has done wrong so instead you puff up a smokescreen to hide that fact (as if anyone is fooled). 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.3.37  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.36    4 years ago

Lol ..... 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2  Hal A. Lujah    4 years ago

Sounds more like an episode of Sopranos, where the mafia gets a guy a job at some establishment just so he can hold the back door open at 3am.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3  Sparty On    4 years ago

It’s funny watching people get manipulated by cleverly worded reporting.    

True, much of the PPP funds didn’t go “directly” to employees but went “directly” to employers or corporations.    Many of whom are being tagged as, the evil rich.

Problem is, much of that PPP money that went “directly” to employers then went “indirectly” to help employees in various ways.   We used it to help with not laying off any of our employees during the peak of COVID shutdowns which halted most of our work.    Employees got paid to stay at home and isolate.

But that, as Paul Harvey would say is ..... the rest of the story.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Sparty On @3    4 years ago
It’s funny watching people get manipulated by cleverly worded reporting.    

It's not cleverly worded.  It's just another journalist who doesn't know WTF they're talking about.

I wish I could say the level of ignorance was "astonishing".... but it's not, is it?

Some of these morons want to compare PPP loan forgiveness with student loan forgiveness.   WTF?  How stupid are people?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1    4 years ago

Yeah, I try to give reporters  the benefit of the doubt when it comes to intellect but you’re probably right.

Tons and tons of pseudo intellectuals out there these days.    Always has been I suppose but it seems to be getting worse.    Or perhaps it’s just that it’s in our face more now with all the social networking these days.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.1    4 years ago
Yeah, I try to give reporters  the benefit of the doubt when it comes to intellect but you’re probably right.

I don't think it's intellect.  I think it's the topics they avoided in school on their way to becoming journalists.

Let's face it, if they knew anything about math or money, they'd be doing something else.

 
 

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