It Appears Right And Wrong Don't Matter To You Anymore If You Are A Republican, A Conservative, Or A Trumpster
Before I begin I will say that there are a handful of Republicans, conservatives and Trumpsters that still care about right or wrong in the public square, although they tend to keep their light hidden under the proverbial bushel.
The Lincoln Project, Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger , Charlie Sykes, Tim Miller, and David Frum, would be examples of public figures who still know right from wrong. Among the run of the mill MAGA finding such people is more problematic. Now I am not saying that MAGA dont know right or wrong in their personal lives, how would I know that anyway? I am talking about what people say at rallies, in man on the street interviews, on right wing radio talk shows, and on their social media. And what we see in those venues is not pretty.
The Jan 6th committee concluded their scheduled public hearings yesterday and typically went out with a bang. The summoning of Trump to testify under oath was the headline grabber, but the playing of a previously unseen video from Jan 6th was the real story yesterday. In this video we see Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer , and a couple others making phone calls to try and get governors, mayors, the Department of Justice, and the Department of Defense to send troops and officers to the Capitol to relieve the siege on the building being perpetrated by inflamed Trump supporters. One of the people a few feet away from Pelosi as she was making these requests, over speakerphone, was Republican representative Steve Scalise, second in line in power in the GOP House lineup. Scalise could not have possibly missed the fact that Pelosi was asking for National Guard troops to be sent to the capitol.
Let me quote from an article today pertaining to this morning's Morning Joe show
The show opened with a clip showing Rep. Jim Banks during a Jun 9th press conference asking, “was Speaker Pelosi involved in the decision to delay National Guard assistance on January 6th?” The edited clip then shows Scalise saying, “Jim Banks just raised some very serious questions that should be answered by the January 6th commission, but they are not.”
The video footage shows Rep. Scalise standing mere feet from the House Speaker as she implores someone on the phone to treat the Capitol building as if it were “the Pentagon or the White House, or some other entity.” Though the subject of her daughter’s camera, the footage reveals Pelosi active, engaged, and leading an effort to bring order on that fateful day.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/my-god-joe-scarborough-brutally-mocks-steve-scalise-lying-through-his-teeth-in-questioning-pelosi-s-role-in-jan-6/ar-AA12X2bf
Joe Scarborough called out Scalise as a liar for when he had told reporters that questions about Pelosi's actions on Jan 6th were not being answered. Scalise already knew the answer when he said that because he was less than 10 feet away from Pelosi when she made phone calls on Jan 6th requesting National Guard deployment at the capitol building.
In order to protect or extend their position in national politics, people on the right are turning their back on right and wrong. They deny that far right extremism is a problem, they deny that crackpots in their congressional ranks is a problem, they deny that racism is a problem, they deny that election denial is a problem, and they deny that their continued and phenomenal excuse making for Donald Trump is a problem.
We see everyday some "conservative" or another make an enthusiastic declaration that Trump's unethical, destructive, massively dishonest, and buffoonish behavior is not really that bad a thing because "he hasnt been convicted of a crime". The standard of right or wrong to right wingers now is criminal conviction. No conviction, no wrong doing. Unless you are in Black Lives Matter or are a pro-choice activist or a public school teacher. Those people are guilty of something in the right's view just by the mere mentioning of their existence.
Trump is being investigated , for crimes, by a dozen or so governmental law enforcement entities, but he's totally innocent to the right because he hasnt been convicted of anything. There is a vast amount of evidence that Trump tried to steal the election, and when that failed in court wanted to do it through vice presidential fiat on Jan 6th. there was a plan, that Trump endorsed, for Pence to declare that the electoral votes of seven swing states would not be counted because they were "in dispute" (none of them were actually in dispute) and thus the new count would show Trump to be the winner of the presidential election.
What I just said is not in dispute, it is in writing. The Eastman memo was given to Bob Woodward who included it in his last book about Trump. Let's say that Trump is never indicted for wanting and planning to "win" the election in this massively dishonest way - does that make him "innocent"? Of course not.
On the morning of Jan 6th Trump was still trying to get Pence to follow that plan later that day.
When the riot started Trump was eventually on the phone with Kevin Mc Carthy, when Mccarthy was pleading for Trump to do something about the mob, Trump told McCarthy “ Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are,”.
Is that "innocence" ? Is that an area where we should provide a cover of an "innocent until proven guilty " excuse?
I'm tired of fighting with people about this. We have a lot of republicans, conservatives, and MAGA who just dont give a damn about right and wrong anymore. Especially when it comes to protecting Trump.
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Thanks for making it clear you have nothing of interest to say.
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Do you ever tire of making content free comments ? I know you are more intelligent than just making content free comments all the time.
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Seems that Washington had some ideas back in early December for this issue but nothing was done in preparation for it. We know that Pelosi was in the loop on this, why the defense that she tried to get National Guard involved by calling on the 6th? Why was she more worried about optics beforehand?
So why was questioning Speaker Pelosi taken off the table for the committee when the committee was set up? Why can those questions not be looked into? As my post indicates, they had advance knowledge that there was a high potential for trouble and they did nothing. Why?
Answering the questions in this shit show would put everything on record. It could derail the whole "investigation" if that happened.
Wait... you mean to say this entire committee was put together for partisan political reasons?
I really want to thank you guys for validating the concept of the seeded article.
The issue on Jan 6th was not "what is Nancy Pelosi doing?" , nor was that the issue in all the weeks between the election and Jan 6th.
I guess you guys can fuss and fight and try to make it the issue, but all that really shows is that the political right no longer cares about right and wrong.
The issue about Jan 6th is that Donald Trump misled his following into believing the election had been stolen from him, and then plotted to find a way to overturn the election, and then summoned tens of thousands of followers, many of them extremists, to the capitol building in the hope of physically disrupting the legal transfer of power. During all of this the president of the United States, Donald Trump was telling an uncountable number of lies. He was inviting unhinged traitors and crackpots into the Oval Office for meetings to plot strategy. And after the riot was over, and 150 cops were injured , he told the mob to "remember this day forever". When Trump made that tweet he KNEW that many cops were injured, and that areas of the Capitol building had been trashed. And he knew that one of his followers had paraded through the capitol rotunda waving a confederate flag. And still he said "remember this day forever".
But its all ok because he has not been indicted or because there are only two Republicans on the committee.
Sadly, that is what MAGA and the like think. Or pretend to think.
I'd say that it's common knowledge that it was set up for political reasons but, as you can see, there are those who can't wrap their heads around it.
Now that it's being broadcast on TV it's become more apparent.
Holy conspiracy theory Batman!
Oh NO! A politician lying? That's unheard of! You seem to conveniently ignore the all the "investigations" into Trump started with lies. And they all come from the Democrats.
At best there is 1 republican on the committee. And EVERY member of this committee was hand picked by Pelosi. You need to really keep up with the characters in your stories (think Days of Our Lives).
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I notice you started with the personal attacks. What I said must have had stated some truth that you can't spin into pure garbage.
You should learn to take a compliment.
It absolutely was! If you look under the clothing of the committee members ( including the two Republicans on it) you will find this.
good point John. I sure remember the outrage of patriotic democrats like you when Adam Schiff put out a knowingly false memo about the FISA investigation to protect his party and smear Republicans. Your constant attacks on Schiff and refusal to defend him is why your attacks on Republicans don't come across as mere partisan posturing.
It was great how you guys threw Schiff out of the party and didn't reward him for lying.
No one who matters gives a damn about the events of January 6. Especially the voters.
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