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Behold Ron ‘culture war’ DeSantis: The Florida emperor with no clothes

  
Via:  John Russell  •  last year  •  34 comments


Behold Ron ‘culture war’ DeSantis: The Florida emperor with no clothes
A recent Yahoo News/YouGov poll showed most of DeSantis’ key Florida policies and goals — from banning abortions after six weeks of pregnancy to cutting diversity, equity and inclusion programs on college campuses — are opposed by a majority of Americans. It’s not hard to conclude — and I say this as someone who was born and raised in the Sunshine State — that Florida ain’t like the rest of the country. And being a popular governor there doesn’t make DeSantis the political juggernaut...

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Behold Ron ‘culture war’ DeSantis: The Florida emperor with no clothes

In Gov. Ron DeSantis’ “Free State of Florida,” a charter school principal was forced to resign after sixth-grade students were shown images of Michelangelo’s notably nude sculpture, “David.”

Apparently the horrors of art and anatomy were too much for some parents, and because DeSantis has empowered adults dippy enough to consider Renaissance art “pornography,” the principal was — in the spirit of freedom — shown the door.
David’s man-bits might be visible, but as DeSantis tries to raise his national profile ahead of a likely GOP presidential primary campaign, it’s becoming apparent the Florida emperor has no clothes.


Things haven’t gone well for Ron DeSanctimonius’ expected presidential run

Consider the recent stumbles by the man GOP presidential primary frontrunner and former President Donald Trump has labeled “Ron DeSanctimonius” and, somehow more insultingly, “Rob.”

DeSantis referred to Russia’s deadly invasion of Ukraine as “a territorial dispute” and was then admonished by Democrats and Republicans alike. So he flip-flopped in an interview with Piers Morgan and called Russian President Vladimir Putin a “war criminal.” Then on Friday he flop-flipped back to saying: “I care more about securing our own border in the United States than I do about the Russia-Ukraine border.”

The Daily Beast ran a lengthy story citing former DeSantis staffers and GOP operatives who painted the governor as someone who “struggles with basic social skills.” That story included an anecdote about the governor’s allegedly messy eating habits, claiming he once devoured a chocolate pudding dessert with three fingers.That’s dumb, of course, but it yielded this chyron when the Morgan interview was aired on Fox Nation: “RON: I DIDN’T EAT PUDDING WITH 3 FINGERS.”

And despite Trump’s increasing legal problems and consistent “badger-on-bath-salts” behavior, the former president is leading DeSantis by 15 points in the most recent Real Clear Politics polling average.

Most Americans disagree with DeSantis’ policies

A recent Yahoo News/YouGov poll showed most of DeSantis’ key Florida policies and goals — from banning abortions after six weeks of pregnancy to cutting diversity, equity and inclusion programs on college campuses — are opposed by a majority of Americans. It’s not hard to conclude — and I say this as someone who was born and raised in the Sunshine State — that Florida ain’t like the rest of the country. And being a popular governor there doesn’t make DeSantis the political juggernaut Republicans hyped him up to be.

The revenge of ‘woke Disney’

Perhaps the most clear evidence that DeSantis’ culture-war-centric hollering has become white noise, literally and figuratively, was the news last week that Disney World will be hosting the Out & Equal Workplace Summit, one of the world’s largest LGBTQ conferences. DeSantis boasts incessantly about his battles with “woke Disney,”which started when the company spoke out about the governor’s law prohibiting teachers from talking about gender identity or sexual orientation in school classrooms up through third grade, known broadly as the “Don’t Say Gay” law. He recently signed a law giving the state control over the previously corporate-run district that encompasses Disney World and made it sound like he — Ron DeSantis, Slayer of Wokeness — now calls the shots at the company. That’s not true. Disney maintained the tax breaks and most of the power it previously had, but, you know, go ahead and wish upon a star, governor.

After signing the Disney bill into law, DeSantis crowed: “Today, the corporate kingdom finally comes to an end.”
You do you, Gov. DeSantis, the rest of us are going to just keep living

With the announcement of the Out & Equal conference, which focuses intently on the same diversity, equity and inclusion issues DeSantis’ has been railing against, the Disney corporate kingdom’s response was, essentially: “Whatever, pudding fingers. We’re just gonna move along with the rest of the world and not act weird about stuff.” The Miami Herald reported: “Dozens of iconic American companies — including Apple, McDonald’s, Uber, Walmart, Hilton, Amazon, Boeing, Cracker Barrel and John Deere — are sponsoring the Out & Equal Workplace summit, which over 5,000 people are expected to attend. Several agencies, including the State Department and the CIA, are listed as government partners and will have booths at the conference.”
So it’s not just Disney ignoring DeSantis’ anti-DEI, anti-woke, anti-Renaissance-statue ramblings. It’s the Walmarts and John Deeres and Cracker Barrels and, generally speaking, most of corporate America and the global companies that Florida kids will one day turn to for jobs. So, as Trump might say, “Good job with all that, Rob.”

Maybe ‘Rob’ DeSantis isn’t the conservative savior some imagined

The belief in more mainstream Republican circles seemed to be that DeSantis was “The One,” the tough, lib-lambasting conservative who could take the MAGA crown from Trump and lead the party back to the White House.
The naked truth is DeSantis looks more and more like a paper tiger each day. He’s a Florida version of Michelangelo’s “David.”
A wannabe emperor proudly parading about the country, sans clothes.

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

DeSantis, we hardly knew ye.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    last year

Is every liberal op ed attacking DeSantis news?  The level of obsession with DeSantis is like nothing I've ever seen.  It's all hands on deck for Trump in progressive circles.  

but I do find it amusing that  "that Disney World will be hosting the Out & Equal Workplace Summit, one of the world’s largest LGBTQ conferences" somehow sticks it to DeSantis. Are people really that dumb? . 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year
The level of obsession with DeSantis is like nothing I've ever seen.

Don't be ridiculous.  You mean that you are surprised when Ds attack DeSantis?   This is so different from the routine partisan criticisms (Ds and Rs) that we see every election year?   Look around, this has been going on for as long as we have been alive.

If the Ds are obsessed with DeSantis then the Rs are obsessed with Biden.   But, of course, you will deny the R side of this.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @2.1    last year
You mean that you are surprised when Ds attack DeSantis? 

Yeah, it's weird when there are 5 seeds a day about a governor who hasn't even declared for the Presidency and when Democrats attacks groups that are supposedly anti Trump like the Lincoln Project are laser focused on defeating him for Trump. 

Tell me, were conservatives obsessively posting about Joe Biden on this site in 2019?

But, of course, you will deny the R side of this.

Lol. Just count up who's seeding the DeSantis focused seeds. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    last year
Yeah, it's weird.  

Been around social forums for about 15 years and I see nothing strange about this.   Given the extreme circumstances surrounding Trump, you should not be surprised to see the activity around him.

Tell me, were conservatives obsessively posting about Joe Biden in 2019?

Do you pay any attention whatsoever to this forum?   

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.2    last year
Been around social forums for about 15 years and I see nothing strange about this. 

Then you don't pay much attention.  To claim people here were posting multiple seeds daily attacking Joe Biden in 2019 is gaslighting. 

Given the extreme circumstances surrounding Trump, you should not be surprised to see the activity around him.

Right. That explains  the daily seeds about Gavin Newsome  because Joe Biden generates so much news.

Do you pay any attention whatsoever to this forum?  

More than you, obviously. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.3    last year
To claim people here were posting multiple seeds daily attacking Joe Biden in 2019 is gaslighting. 

I never made that claim.  Attempt to be at least somewhat honest.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.4    last year
Attempt to be at least somewhat honest

It would be nice of.  you do so.  That would be  much better than you making weaselly declarations that you immediately  refuse to defend the implications of.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.2    last year

If Ron DeSantis actually were a "breath of fresh air" instead of the Christian nationalist weirdo he is , maybe he wouldnt draw so much "leftist" attention. He wants to have his Trump cake and eat it too. 

The Miami Herald published an editorial criticizing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' "flirting with Christian nationalism," warning that it overlaps with white supremacy. 

DeSantis and other conservative leaders such as   Rep. Lauren Boebert   and   Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene , have recently touted   Christian nationalist   ideas – a political ideology that asserts an intrinsic connection between being American and being Christian.

The influential daily newspaper, one of the most   widely read   in the state, points to DeSantis' invoking of Christian war imagery, as he said in a recent speech: "Put on the full armor of God. Stand firm against the left's schemes."

Republicans such as DeSantis have found a "political gold mine" by pitting Christians against the "so-called evils of the left," such as LGBTQ people and "woke" teachers, the paper says.

But, the newspaper's editorial board warns that Christian nationalism can have dangerous appeal beyond just religion.

"We cannot overlook the overlap between Christian nationalism — and its nostalgia for our "Anglo-Protestant" past — and white supremacy," the editorial says, noting that many devout Christians enslaved Black people centuries ago.

The article also cites recent   data , laid out by Robert P. Jones, the head of the Public Religion Research Institute, which suggests that "the more racist attitudes a person holds, the more likely he or she is to identify as a white Christian."

Christian nationalism is also not just about religion, according to Ryan Burge, an Eastern Illinois University professor who studies the intersection between religion and political behavior.

Burge told the paper that its appeal also related to nostalgia for the days when traditional values weren't questioned – when "a woman was a woman and a man was a man," a popular gripe amongst conservatives.

The paper suggested that DeSantis' embracing of Christian nationalism hints at him eyeing 2024 GOP presidential primary voters, as Florida, which he won by a "razor-thin" margin in 2018, has long been considered a purple state.

The paper also criticizes Democrats for failing to come up with an effective counter-narrative to politicians like DeSantis that does not demonize religion or come across as proselytizing.

"If DeSantis is telling his followers to go fight to shape the nation to their religious liking, the counter-narrative should be that this rhetoric could not only incite violence, but it also undermines Christianity itself," the editorial says.

"The governor's Christian nationalist shtick only separates us," the paper says, adding that Democrats should "counter it more boldly and bring back into their tent voters who feel that, on the issues of religion and faith, the party has nothing to say to them."

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TᵢG
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2.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.5    last year

It is a losing argument for you to claim that this forum is obsessed with Trump but not obsessed with Biden.    (Biden ≅ "Brandon" in case you missed this too.)

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    last year
If Ron DeSantis actually were a "breath of fresh air" instead of the Christian nationalist weirdo he is , maybe he wouldnt draw so much "leftist" attention. He wants to have his Trump cake and eat it too. 

I of course was hoping the GOP might gravitate towards someone who would appeal to the general electorate rather than to the MAGA crowd of the GOP.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.9  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.7    last year
It is a losing argument for you to claim that this forum is obsessed with Trump but not obsessed with Biden.    

Biden(s). plural

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year

Your conservative friends are the ones that have been anointing DeSantis, someone who has never proven he can be competitive in an election outside of Florida. He has an inherent awkwardness to him that rarely works in so called "retail" politics. 

His entire appeal is based on the assumption that a majority will vote for someone who says "woke" every other sentence. I doubt that was ever true. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2    last year

The Republicans should nominate someone like Mitt Romney. I hate to say it, but I think he could probably beat Biden. 

But what would MAGA do? Stay home? or vote for a third party candidate like Trump? 

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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2.2.2  MonsterMash  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2    last year
DeSantis, someone who has never proven he can be competitive in an election outside of Florida.
What a silly comment, has DeSantis ever run in an election outside of Florida?
Hillary proved she can't win an election outside of New York.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  MonsterMash @2.2.2    last year
Hillary proved she can't win an election outside of New York.

Hillary didnt run around saying that the rest of the country needed to be made over in the image of New York state. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2    last year
someone who has never proven he can be competitive in an election outside of Florida.

Right.  That never works.  Obama, Clinton etc won so many national elections before running for President. 

He has an inherent awkwardness to him that rarely works in so called "retail" politics. 

does he smell women's hair?  Does he lie, compulsively about his family, education, career, arrest record etc?  Does he lose the ability to finish sentences?

umption that a majority will vote for someone who says "woke" every other sentence

The advantage he has is that he would be running against an 80 year old man who has trouble stringing two coherent sentences together. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.5  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    last year
The Republicans should nominate someone like Mitt Romney.

I wish.   

Odd how Romney was so dissed by his 47% comment and his religion yet Trump comes along with the worst behavior and abysmal character (and entirely unpresidential demeanor) and wins the election.    Some think that Romney's loss was primarily due to the Hispanic vote and based on the GOP's positions on immigration.   So then we have Trump with his wall and seemingly no problem.    Of course another key factor is that Romney was up against Obama whereas Trump only had to beat Hillary.

Looks like telling people what they want to hear is indeed the most effective factor in US politics.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.5    last year

I dont think Romney SHOULD ever be president, but he would look like a good alternative to a lot of people looking for a "moderate" not named Joe Biden. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.7  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.4    last year
does he smell women's hair?  Does he lie, compulsively about his family, education, career, arrest record etc?  Does he lose the ability to finish sentences?

Yeah, way to illustrate the standard, obsessive talking points that you seem to not recognize for over two years.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.8  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.6    last year

I know you are not a Romney supporter.   I am just telling you that I would vote for Romney in a heartbeat over any of the other names mentioned thus far.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.9  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.4    last year

You say that but we see President Biden almost every day serving capably, being able to control of his message and making perfect sense despite his age. He certainly is as capable a public speaker as Trump. Desantis has a line of bullshit down but nobody outside Florida is buying it yet...

If the gop nominates Trump, Biden wins his second term! 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2.10  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.5    last year
"Looks like telling people what they want to hear is indeed the most effective factor in US politics."

You betcha, fer sure!  But that only works for awhile, until the voters figure out that your party can't live up to its promises, and gets weary of the lies and deceit.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2.11  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @2.2.9    last year

But it won't nominate Trump, and that's why the Democrats are running scared.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.12  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @2.2.9    last year
If the gop nominates Trump, Biden wins his second term! 

The D nominee wins (it is not necessarily Biden although I am sorry to say that it looks like he will run again).

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.13  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.11    last year
But it won't nominate Trump, and that's why the Democrats are running scared.

You seem to disregard Trump's ability to spoil the GOP nominee's opportunity to win in the general.   That has been my biggest complaint ... that GOP members seem oblivious to the damage Trump continues to inflict on the party.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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2.2.14  MonsterMash  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.7    last year

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JohnRussell
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2.2.15  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.13    last year

I dont think DeSantis can beat Trump. Trump will squash him. Its dog eat dog political combat at some point and DeSantis cannot differentiate himself from Trump the way a Biden can. DeSantis will always look like Trump's little brother. 

Despite what some people may think, I would not be worried if DeSantis gets the GOP nomination. He is an extremist with ties to Trump and MAGA that cannot be dissolved or explained away. The Democrats can beat him. 

America will not get back to normal until trumpism is gone and DeSantis is not that guy. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.16  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  MonsterMash @2.2.14    last year

Some people have something to say and others are just the peanut gallery of bitchers. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.17  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.15    last year

I can see why you think that.   I am going to hold my predictions until I see DeSantis in the race and dealing with Trump.

If DeSantis wins the nomination, he will need to somehow mitigate the Trump spoiler ... that means he MUST win over most of the MAGA so that they do not stay home and pout.   And if Trump runs third party, I suspect that would pretty much kill DeSantis' general election chances.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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2.2.18  MonsterMash  replied to  JBB @2.2.9    last year
If the gop nominates Trump, Biden wins his second term!

If Republicans nominate anyone besides Trump Biden will bow out sighting "health reasons" Trump is the only candidate Biden can beat, the democrats know it and they will force Biden out. 

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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2.2.19  MonsterMash  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.16    last year
Some people have something to say and others are just the peanut gallery of bitchers. 

Mirror Mirror on the wall.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.20  TᵢG  replied to  MonsterMash @2.2.18    last year
Trump is the only candidate Biden can beat, the democrats know it and they will force Biden out. 

I think, at this point in time, if Biden want to run for a second term the Ds will support him.    If we see the economy turn south again or something else major that affects the everyday lives of voters then that could indeed encourage the D party to seek another nominee.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.2.21  TᵢG  replied to  MonsterMash @2.2.19    last year

You are making JR's point.

 
 

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