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Ron DeSantis's Ghoulish Embrace of American Psycho Patrick Bateman

  
Via:  John Russell  •  3 years ago  •  17 comments

By:   Robert Schlesinger (The New Republic)

Ron DeSantis's Ghoulish Embrace of American Psycho Patrick Bateman
The increasingly hopeless presidential candidate is now clinging to a weird right-wing meme in the hopes of winning over the misogynistic-sociopath vote.

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Ron DeSantis's recent campaign ad deservedly got attention for being both maniacally anti-LGBTQ and, as Pete Buttigieg deftly observed, undeniably homoerotic. It includes film clips of Brad Pitt as the ancient Greek hero Achilles, "who, in the Iliad," my colleague Prem Thakker observed on Monday, "has been interpreted to have gone on a vengeful rampage after the death of his gay lover, Patroclus." Indeed, one wonders whether the Yale- and Harvard-educated DeSantis or his campaign team know the role homosexuality played in ancient Greek society.

But the ad was also just plain bizarre, as exemplified by the repeated presence of Patrick Bateman, the titular character from the 2000 movie American Psycho. Spoiler alert if you haven't seen it (or the Bret Easton Ellis book on which it was based): Bateman, played by Christian Bale, a Wall Street master of the universe, gleefully hacks, slashes, and chainsaws his way through New York, even engaging in cannibalism and necrophilia.

It's unclear whether Bateman actually commits these heinous acts or simply fantasizes about them, but that's beside the point in the case of DeSantis's ad:


To wrap up "Pride Month," let's hear from the politician who did more than any other Republican to celebrate it…
pic.twitter.com/FT7LdW4vls

— DeSantis War Room (@DeSantisWarRoom) June 30, 2023

What in the name of the party of "law and order" is going on here? Why would any sane—if desperate—campaign indulge in this sort of unhinged visual-associational rhetoric? "We should not lose sight," MSNBC's Zeeshan Aleem wrote on Monday, "of the madness of a major presidential candidate saying he's OK with being likened to violent sociopaths."

I asked that question of the DeSantis campaign itself, without response. (That's not surprising, perhaps, given his famous antipathy for the press and TNR's ideological leanings. But the ad favorably compares DeSantis to someone famous for saying things like, "I want to stab you to death and play around with your blood," so whatever I write will be comparatively benign.)

Maybe DeSantis, a fellow Gen Xer, is just a 1980s enthusiast. But surely his campaign could have found a better pop culture icon with whom to compare him. Sure, Arnold Schwarzenegger is probably a nonstarter with GOP voters these days, but the ads of Sylvester Stallone grimly intoning, "You're a disease, and I'm the cure," practically write themselves. I mean, hell, if you're going to crib a manly, crime-fighting Bale character, one would think Bruce Wayne is the obvious choice. (No, wait, Trump already beat DeSantis there.)

The answer is simpler and more disturbing. In the decades since he cut his swath across the silver screen, Bale's satirical antihero has become an earnest hero in certain meme-ified, heavily male corners of the internet.

Bateman took on new prominence during the early days of the pandemic and its lockdowns. "He was popular on the internet from the onset, reaching fame in forums and social media, on platforms such as 4chan or TikTok," Juanjo Villalba wrote in January in El Pais. "And in the first weeks of the 2020 coronavirus lockdown, a series of Patrick Bateman memes quickly began to circulate." He especially appeals to "sigma males," a group which Dazed's Gunseli Yalcinkaya has described as "an introverted alpha male who likes to 'play by his own rules,'" an archetype that proliferated on 4chan and "esoteric right-wing fitness circles."

"Bateman, for them, belongs to a gallery of idols that … also includes Tyler Durden from Fight Club, Joaquin Phoenix's Joker and Jordan Belfort from The Wolf of Wall Street," Villalba wrote. "Guys who are outside the system and play 'by their own rules,' broken toys on the fringes of society, in an endless battle against a world that is alien and hostile to them."

This, then, is the crowd to which the anti-charismatic DeSantis is appealing, a pitch that he can be more toxically masculine than anyone else out there. (Leonardo DiCaprio's Belfort also appears in the DeSantis ad.) It's a pastiche of the white guys yearning for the days when masculinity alone ruled the day—and right in the target demographic of the truculent right. Remember when Tucker Carlson praised the virtues of scrotum tanning? Yeah, he knew his audience. So, apparently, does the DeSantis campaign.

"People don't admire him simply because he's a handsome fictional degenerate. There are a lot of those out there, most of whom get nowhere near the attention Bateman does and especially not from self-described conservatives," right-wing journalist Robert Schmad wrote in The Washington Examiner in 2021. "Bateman's popularity in corners of the Right is rooted in his perceived power. He wields control over himself and his surroundings, something many young men, especially conservatives, feel is unattainable to them and thus long for an avatar to experience such things vicariously through. Hence, Bateman's appeal."

How is that likely to work out for psycho-panderer DeSantis?

"It is very clearly an attempt to play to the Andrew Tate crowd. An amateur attempt, but that seems to be part of the schtick," Kristin Kobes Du Mez, a historian at Calvin University and author of Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation, told me via email. Tate, a misogynistic YouTube influencer, was recently charged in Romania with rape and human trafficking.

Tate and his ilk, Du Mez said, are the bridge between right-wing evangelism and the "manosphere" types to whom DeSantis is dog whistling—nay, barking.

And this illustrates the depths of Team DeSantis's panic: Evangelicals are sticking with Trump. Those few who favored DeSantis liked him because he was the saner culture warrior, Du Mez noted. "So, he has no choice but to play Trump's game," she said. "The problem is, this hasn't worked for anyone who's tried this. Cruz, Rubio, every Republican challenger who's tried to look tough … Trump made the rules. He always wins at his game." DeSantis, she continued, "comes across as cringier than Cruz, and weaker than Rubio."

Patrick Bateman ruthlessly murdered anyone who showed a hint of weakness. You might say Trump is going to eat DeSantis alive.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 years ago

I would like to hear someone defend this ad of DeSantis'.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago

I think all the DeSantis supporters thinks this is nuts. But I would like someone to prove me wrong

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.3  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago
I would like to hear someone defend this ad of DeSantis'.

Unfortunately, that’s now how it works, these days. Just like with Trump, his supporters know in their hearts that this is insane, but they look the other way, and pretend it isn’t happening. No one will defend it, but - with rare exceptions possibly - no one condemns it either. There will be deflection, projection, and distraction, but they won’t actually engage with the subject.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago

The left seems to very, very worried about Ron DeSantis the way they are demonizing him, but few people vote Republican pay any attention to this type of political slander. A few missteps along the campaign trail won't hurt him

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.4    3 years ago

This is the typical backwards comment by you. The ad doesnt "slander" Ron DeSantis,  IT'S  HIS  AD, the people who put the ad out are an official part of DeSantis' campaign. Unless people working for his campaign put out video ads without his knowledge or approval, he knows about and ok'd this video. 

The video is demented. Now will the public say DeSantis is too?  Many will.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    3 years ago
The vile video reflects DeSantis’ campaign strategy — staking out a lane to the right of former President Donald Trump on major culture war issues. It’s unclear if there are any limits on what he’ll do in order to claim that territory. 

DeSantis represents the tip of the spear of the right’s overwhelming assault on trans rights.

...It then pivots to a barrage of images and headlines that portray DeSantis as a ruthless alternative to Trump’s tolerance. While a dark, thumping beat throbs in the background, the video celebrates DeSantis’ zealotry by quoting headlines and clips of pundits criticizing DeSantis, referring to him signing the “most extreme slate of anti-trans laws in modern history” and producing some of the “harshest, most draconian laws that literally threaten trans existence.” 

Interspersed among these clips are images of men presumably intended to convey DeSantis’ persona, which include: Christian Bale in the film “American Psycho,” in which he plays an unfeeling sociopath who murders homeless people; Brad Pitt as the warrior Achilles in the film “Troy”; Leonardo DiCaprio as a cocaine-addled, wife-beating Wall Street fraudster in “Wolf of Wall Street”; and the   GigaChad meme , a photoshopped depiction of an imperious-looking ultra-muscular man originally associated with incel forums. DeSantis is also at other points likened to an alligator and to the character of   Maverick in “Top Gun.”

As some have observed, the funny thing about this video is that stylistically it’s sort of camp, and the emphasis on muscular men alongside a techno beat that could plausibly be heard at a gay club gives it a homoerotic vibe. Chasten Buttigieg, the husband of Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, responded to the video by   tweeting : “This is actually very gay.”

Unfortunately, the video does have to be taken seriously, and there is zero ambiguity about the message: DeSantis represents the tip of the spear of the right’s overwhelming assault on trans rights. 

...The flashing images of masculinity that surface in the video are absurd, but also merit close attention. In them we can see DeSantis and his circle’s ideal of masculinity: violent, bullying, morally depraved. We should not lose sight of the madness of a major presidential candidate saying he’s OK with being likened to violent sociopaths when it comes to dealing with the medical rights, civil rights and social acceptance of a small, marginalized community that’s already   acutely vulnerable to rising violence.   The video does not present a philosophical defense of gender tradition. It celebrates a kind of eliminationist rhetoric — solve the problem by getting rid of it altogether. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    3 years ago

Who thought this ad was a good idea? I've seen American Psycho. Why would anyone want to emulate that?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    3 years ago

Apparently DeSantis thinks Republican voters do. At least the ones of the far right. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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4  Kavika     3 years ago

Beyond bizarre.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @4    3 years ago

Indeed.

"We should not lose sight," MSNBC's Zeeshan Aleem wrote on Monday, "of the madness of a major presidential candidate saying he's OK with being likened to violent sociopaths."
 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
5  Ender    3 years ago

He keeps doing things like this even though he does not rise in the polls. You would think he would take the hint it is not the way to go yet he doubles down...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @5    3 years ago

I think the pressure is getting to him. I think he needs a vacation...at a nice little spa with bars on the windows and padded rooms

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5.1.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1    3 years ago

Maybe he should take a little vacation.  I hear the Happiest Place on Earth is right there in his state.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
6  Sparty On    3 years ago

When it comes to insulting the electorate, DeSantis is a rookie compared to Biden and Hillary.

And it’s not even close ….

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.1  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @6    3 years ago

What did mean old Joe and nasty wicked Hillary say that hurt your feelers now? Still pouting about that "Deplorable" incident? SMH...

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
6.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @6.1    3 years ago

Keep shaking it, it might help ….

 
 

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