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GOP Debate Starts Out In Embarrassing Fashion

  
By:  John Russell  •  3 years ago  •  40 comments


GOP Debate Starts Out In Embarrassing Fashion
Pence was specifically asked about the CEO compensation and he simply ignored the question to attack Biden. He even mentioned "the right to work" as being key right now.

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The second GOP debate is underway.  The first question was whether the candidates were on the side of the auto workers union, or management.  Four candidates responded to this question, Scott, Haley, Pence and Ramaswamy. 

NONE of them addressed what the striking auto workers want. All of them blamed Biden, for inflation, for government spending, for "green" energy. You get the picture. 

The auto workers say they havent gotten caught up in salary since they made concessions in 2009 to help the auto makers survive. Since then CEO compensation has skyrocketed.  Pence was specifically asked about the CEO compensation and he simply ignored the question to attack Biden. He even mentioned "the right to work" as being key right now. What a clueless simp. 

Now they are all talking over each other.  This is the minor leagues. 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    3 years ago

Working people should take heed of the crap they are hearing from these candidates. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  author  JohnRussell    3 years ago

These clowns are speaking over each other constantly.  Trump must be laughing his ass off as he speaks to a rally hosted by a right to work group. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  author  JohnRussell    3 years ago

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Trout Giggles
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3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @3    3 years ago

Did you ever think that maybe that's all the man has? He knows nothing about economics, inflation, keeping people employed and the really "fun" stuff. I think he gets aroused by the talk of the LGBTQ community and he gets a super woody when dissing "woke" culture

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  author  JohnRussell    3 years ago
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Nearly 1 hour in, the main thing #GOPDebate has made clear is that none of these candidates are showing anything near the will or skill to topple a front-runner of Trump's scale. That was never an easy assignment but tonight will likely leave Rs who don't want Trump in despair
 
 
 
bbl-1
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5  bbl-1    3 years ago

Trump brought too much dirty money and questionable ties to foreign powers for the GOP to run on anything except excuses, accusations, deflections.  Trump brought it and they bought it.

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.1  cjcold  replied to  bbl-1 @5    3 years ago
and they bought it

If I had 70 fewer IQ points I'd buy it too.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6  author  JohnRussell    3 years ago

This debate is reeking desperation. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
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6.1  bbl-1  replied to  JohnRussell @6    3 years ago

GOP's only hope is the Saudi Crown Prince, bin Suleiman will tighten gas supplies for Trump and force American's into the $7-8 gas prices at the pump.  If he does that I'd consider that as an act of war.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  bbl-1 @6.1    3 years ago
If he does that I'd consider that as an act of war.

Exactly, the country is aching to send troops back to combat in the Mideast,

 
 
 
GregTx
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6.1.2  GregTx  replied to  bbl-1 @6.1    3 years ago

You mean Biden right?...

 
 
 
bbl-1
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6.1.3  bbl-1  replied to  GregTx @6.1.2    3 years ago

So you would do nothing, right?  Maybe cheer for the Theocratic Islamic state?

 
 
 
GregTx
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6.1.4  GregTx  replied to  bbl-1 @6.1.3    3 years ago

I was just questioning your Freudian slip. What are you suggesting, war with SA and Russia for not producing enough to keep gas prices reasonable?.....

 
 
 
bbl-1
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6.1.5  bbl-1  replied to  GregTx @6.1.4    3 years ago

Narrow memory?  Forgot Iraq already?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  bbl-1 @6.1.5    3 years ago

The invasion supported in the Senate 77 - 23 ?

 
 
 
bbl-1
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6.1.7  bbl-1  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.1.6    3 years ago

So what?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @6    3 years ago

The Dem debates will be much more illuminating.

 
 
 
GregTx
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6.2.1  GregTx  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.2    3 years ago

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JohnRussell
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6.2.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.2    3 years ago

Total silence would beat the pants off this dumpster fire. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.2.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.2    3 years ago

The pundit Rick Wilson says on twitter that he has personally been at 30 debates and watched all of them on television and this is worst debate he has ever seen. 

Every single person on that stage embarrassed themselves tonight. 

The Republicans like to say the Democrats have no bench.  The Republicans have no starting lineup. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.2.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.2    3 years ago
beat the pants off this dumpster fire. 

Did you mean that to be some sort of mixed metaphor?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6.2.5  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.3    3 years ago

Wrong....they've got a strong bench, and an excellent lead off hitter. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.2.6  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.2.4    3 years ago

Mixed metaphors are fun. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.2.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.6    3 years ago

Dumpster’s must be very different in Chicago.

In NoVa, fires are rare and they don’t wear pants.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.2.8  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.2.7    3 years ago

I admit its a mixed metaphor, I do it all the time. 

What is your point?

If you couldnt comment trivially on other peoples comments here you would be lost. 

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.9  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.3    3 years ago

It was a spectacularly AWFUL debate and though I am not a republican I showed up for that. It reminded me of the first Trump/Biden debate: the Noise was overbearing, then too!

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.2.10  cjcold  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.2    3 years ago

What dem debates? 

Biden has been doing a good job (despite propaganda).

Kamala is still better as a back-up than any republican. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.2.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @6.2.10    3 years ago

Respectable polling of Americans reveals a significant delta between their assessment and yours.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7  TᵢG    3 years ago

Chris Christie was the most presidential.   Followed by Pence.  Nikki Haley was okay, I wish she had not engaged in personal banter with Tim Scott.   It was net negative for her even though she made good points.  DeSantis was much better this debate than last.

I prefer Nikki Haley and then Chris Christie.

Trouble is, this is all likely an act of futility.   Trump has taken over the GOP.   The GOP is a dysfunctional mess and I do not see this getting fixed.

The presidential debate forum encourages over talking and deflection.   The candidates need to do this crap otherwise they lose the debate (in the eyes of the electorate) and do not have the opportunity to get their message across.

We need a much more formal decorum for presidential debates.   I am beyond sick of these side shows.

 
 
 
CB
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7.1  CB  replied to  TᵢG @7    3 years ago

What is. . .'funny' is I was wondering what banter took place between Haley and Scott. I am watching it now on DVD. I just got to that part and like the rest of the debate it was shocking that these professionals let themselves get so self-defeatedly rowdy that loose the audience or even the realization that millions can't hear them (that's real) when they talk over each other. We all know how that feels when it happens at home: Dismal.

DeSantis, (Mr. "Republican State") equals a noun, a verb, and "we ain't Woke!"

Christie, torn Trump a new one with his retort that Trump should be there where the action (and heat) is. And, Trump is a sorely missed coward!

 
 
 
cjcold
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7.2  cjcold  replied to  TᵢG @7    3 years ago

Couldn't ever vote for any of these sick fucks!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  cjcold @7.2    3 years ago

I would vote for Haley or Christie.   Years ago I would claim that I would never make such a call, but that just shows how bad our actual choices are.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @7.2.1    3 years ago

That's how I feel, too.

 
 
 
CB
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7.2.3  CB  replied to  TᵢG @7.2.1    3 years ago

I will not vote for ANYBODY who dedicates themselves to making life better for their 'tribe' -while dissing mine and Others. (I include girls and women in that too.) Apparently, girls and women do not have any rights not mentioned in the constitution and all conservatives will not lift a finger to allow them the simplest right and privilege of all: PRIVACY. 

In my way of thinking, that's UNSAT.

 
 
 
CB
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8  CB    3 years ago

This debate which I recorded, is painful. I enjoy it less  than the first one.  One significant point and one contrary point: Vivek Ramaswany's hair is for a lack of better words: Interestingly signifying. Ramaswaney is a trained debater and can keep on point through withering rhetoric being hurled at him. 

Finally, I see Ramaswany for what he is, 'crazy like a fox.' That man is faking it until he makes it!

 
 
 
cjcold
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8.1  cjcold  replied to  CB @8    3 years ago

Ramaswamy would be a good VP choice for Trump.

Neither of them give a shit for the rule of law.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.1  CB  replied to  cjcold @8.1    3 years ago

Ramaswamy demonstrated (to me) last night that he is serious about appearing presidential (that's a positive), but simultaneously revealed in this debate that his new proposal 'drops' are dangerously pessimistic against anybody who is not a (leaning) conservative. That 'dude' is digging a political trench and lining it will constitutional absurdities in a major attempt to increase his polling numbers. (Or at the least, remain in the center spot on the debate stage.)

I can see Vivek R., clearly now for the wannabe that he is. BTW, Trump posted or stated today that he does not consider any one of the RNC debaters as first 'dibs' for VP pick.

 
 
 
cjcold
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8.1.2  cjcold  replied to  CB @8.1.1    3 years ago

How about some far-right female, recently rejected by her constituency with an axe to grind? Hmmm. 

So many choices.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
8.1.3  CB  replied to  cjcold @8.1.2    3 years ago

Any freak that would run on a ticket with a liar and self-absorbed creature like Trump deserves whatever SHE gets as just desserts!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
9  CB    3 years ago

Wow. Haley and Scott - Part Redux. It is. . .painful again. This time something surely 'broke' in the gears. That is, I think they both just shot themselves in the proverbial feet! Nobody can enjoy this. Nobody, bar none, should. This was awful. I want my two-hours back! And I am not even in the immediate audience.

Vivek is just standing there. . .between Haley and Scott. . .smiling like a cheshire cat.

Finally, I am just waiting for the. . . X or Truth Social comment that calls out "Sleepy Mike Pence." Oh, it's coming. It's coming. It's true!

 
 

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